Top 4 Mid-Sized Food-Producing Shrubs for Food Forests (Temperate Climates)

Food forest design involves a detailed understanding of so much more than trees! We need to design complex polycultures that create a thriving ecosystem AND give us a yield of food/fiber/medicine. Let's look at my top mid-sized 4 food-producing shrubs in my food forest guilds and talk about the benefits and specific design needs of each.
Tune in tomorrow, when I show you my top LARGE fruiting shrubs for temperate food forest design.
Ribes: European Currants
Amelanchier: Serviceverry/Juneberrry
Lonicera caerulea: honeyberry/ haskap
Vaccinium: Blueberry
“Northline” serviceberries were purchased at www.burntridgenursery.com
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  • @CanadianPermacultureLegacy
    @CanadianPermacultureLegacy2 жыл бұрын

    A great list! Bushes are so undervalued. You can get so much production out of them. I'm a huge fan of haskaps and currants because they are just bulletproof here, and very healthy.

  • @waykeeperfarmandnerdery
    @waykeeperfarmandnerdery2 жыл бұрын

    Your videos are giving me life, because of your no nonsense approach and perspective. Seriously, thank you for making these videos!

  • @ParkrosePermaculture

    @ParkrosePermaculture

    2 жыл бұрын

    What a kind thing to say!! You made my day!!

  • @be4jesus

    @be4jesus

    2 жыл бұрын

    Wonderful information! I would love to have cuttings of these plants but hard to find. In zone 7. Any ideas? Blessings :)

  • @vani7080
    @vani70802 жыл бұрын

    I really love your videos, your garden inspired me to start a permaculture food forest in my urban garden in a small town near Cologne, Germany. I've already planted 14 fruit and nut trees in 2 years and I will keep on planting....

  • @terrytillman5715
    @terrytillman57155 ай бұрын

    Thank you for telling us right up front what zone you are in. So many youtubers do not do that and it's frustrating when they say "you can plant THIS right now in January" when, say, they are in Florida or some other vastly different agricultural zone. Giving that information from the start is very useful.

  • @bananamustache3071
    @bananamustache3071Ай бұрын

    This is all great information! Very appreciated! Thank you.

  • @hendyappleton5701
    @hendyappleton57012 жыл бұрын

    Emphasis on the "shop carefully for saskatoons". A search yesterday uncovered lots of options for LARGE shrubs/small trees, but very few that emphasized fruit production!

  • @yvonneknight6482
    @yvonneknight6482 Жыл бұрын

    This is my 2nd year growing gooseberry bush I have them in a large container happy growing from Maryland

  • @jenniferg4380
    @jenniferg43802 жыл бұрын

    As I have been learning about how to grow my own little orchard, I was disappointed to learn that growing currants and gooseberries in North Carolina is illegal. Thankfully I have learned lots from you Angela, and am learning that there are other options. Thank you.

  • @hunam3876
    @hunam3876 Жыл бұрын

    LOVE black currants (have planted 5 varieties), like red and white ones too. Have all of your berries planted and literally just ordered a serviceberry = mind blown!

  • @esthercollins4215
    @esthercollins42152 жыл бұрын

    I am learning so much from you. I am taking a permaculture design course and watching your videos are helping to give form to what I am learning. Thank you!

  • @RiceTeaLover
    @RiceTeaLover2 жыл бұрын

    My current favorite KZread channel!!! 😍

  • @ParkrosePermaculture

    @ParkrosePermaculture

    2 жыл бұрын

    Agh!! Thank you so much!!

  • @permiebird937
    @permiebird9372 жыл бұрын

    Need to try Northline.

  • @O_U_No_It_2
    @O_U_No_It_22 жыл бұрын

    Great, in-depth information as usual. Thank you🌱

  • @charlesbale8376
    @charlesbale83762 жыл бұрын

    This was very helpful, thank you.

  • @joannewolfe5688
    @joannewolfe5688 Жыл бұрын

    Thanks!

  • @nmnate
    @nmnate2 жыл бұрын

    My top 3 are bush cherries, jostaberries / currants and haskap. Blueberries don't really work here (too much sun + alkaline soil). I've had better luck with currants here than gooseberries (lost a couple of my black velvet gooseberries). Native currants are really robust, durable plants. Jostaberries are crazy vigorous, give them quite a bit of room. Our serviceberries are too young to fruit, but I think they'll be a nice option to add to a lot of landscapes. We have both Amelanchier alnifolia and Amelanchier utahensis (both spaced in the yard for tree size). Utahensis is supposed to be pretty drought tolerant, but slow growing.

  • @trishwest1809
    @trishwest1809 Жыл бұрын

    Thank you for the education on these wonderful fruit shrub recommendations for fruit forest design.

  • @victoriajohnson3034
    @victoriajohnson30342 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for this video. I'm getting ready for figuring out my bushes and trees.

  • @darlenecameron622
    @darlenecameron6222 жыл бұрын

    I am so happy to have found you! I am learning so much, thank you! Fairly new to the Central Willamette Valley from NW MT. Very different growing conditions!

  • @tgardenchicken1780
    @tgardenchicken17802 жыл бұрын

    Great ideas, thanks. I am adding more currants and haskaps this year. Now I know of a good service berry I can add next year too.

  • @RedneckHillbillies
    @RedneckHillbillies Жыл бұрын

    Wonderful- I have all of these except the Saskatoonberry coming next spring to start my food forest. It was probably in my cart at some point but didn't make the cut this time around. I appreciate the variety recommendation. Thanks!

  • @taliag5018
    @taliag5018 Жыл бұрын

    I love your videos! I'm just roughly 100 miles North of you and I find all your advice very helpful. Thanks!

  • @alp8409
    @alp84092 жыл бұрын

    I’m impressed with Josta berry I planted in my back garden last year. Vigorous grower this year laden with berry buds. (Kent, England)

  • @AmelieHarms

    @AmelieHarms

    2 жыл бұрын

    Yes, my jostaberry is looking great as well (South Sweden)!

  • @ParkrosePermaculture

    @ParkrosePermaculture

    2 жыл бұрын

    I used to have one but found it had tremendous hybrid vigor and was just an immense shrub compared to my black currants, so we took it out. I did really like the fruit, though!

  • @tyraeshields498
    @tyraeshields4982 жыл бұрын

    My girlfriend might be going to med school in Oregon and if we move there it would be really exciting as permaculture is more popular there. And maybe if you ever do tours one day I can come check it out!

  • @gardentours
    @gardentours2 жыл бұрын

    Last year I managed to taste the june berry for first time. It was so delicious and the birds are normally faster than me.

  • @howardfowler2255
    @howardfowler22556 ай бұрын

    Very informative video. I grew a lone blueberry plant( Emerald) in Florida that produced a lot of berries without another blueberry nearby. I'm interested in the serviceberry as a fruiting shrub for my area of eastern Tenn. Thanks so much for your very helpful videos!

  • @TheGraemeH
    @TheGraemeH11 ай бұрын

    Going through your back catalogue, really enjoying your content. Can you share some resources you use to research plants when you’re thinking of adding them to your garden, please?

  • @kittimcconnell2633
    @kittimcconnell26332 жыл бұрын

    If you live where there is cedar-apple rust, be prepared to spray serviceberries with the same fungicide you need for apple trees. (Copper sulfide is organic fungicide).

  • @kittimcconnell2633

    @kittimcconnell2633

    2 жыл бұрын

    I put LOTS of used coffee grounds around my blueberries!

  • @BOVANATOR
    @BOVANATOR4 ай бұрын

    Just liked and subscribed! Great video(s)! I live in colorado zone 5b/6a. I would love to make a portion of my front yard into a food forest primarily consisting of berries. I already ordered my tillamook Goumi berries, but would also like to add grape vines, elderberry, service berry, and honeyberry (I got the idea from watching your videos lol 😂). Would there be any way I could send you some pictures of my landscape, and you could help me design the best placement for the plants?! TIA!

  • @muffininorbit
    @muffininorbit2 жыл бұрын

    I’d like list videos within-species, if there’s any kind of plant you collect it would be like “favorite strawberry varieties.”

  • @bassoonrckr
    @bassoonrckr2 жыл бұрын

    I’ll look into the northline/cultivated serviceberry varieties (only ever seen landscape/large plants of those). Especially since currants/ribes are illegal in NC :(

  • @ParkrosePermaculture

    @ParkrosePermaculture

    2 жыл бұрын

    oof, good point. I always forget to mention that European currants are still illegal in some states. Thanks for the reminder!

  • @victoriajohnson3034
    @victoriajohnson30342 жыл бұрын

    Do you have any videos on figs? I know they grow well here

  • @chelseavenable3678
    @chelseavenable36782 жыл бұрын

    Regarding the haskaps, do they require a certain number of chill hours? I have not been successful researching exactly why they are not supposed to be successful in my zone (9b) but got some to experiment with anyway. Thoughts on what their requirements are that limit them from expanding into zone 9? Thanks!

  • @jabbaraedwards8395
    @jabbaraedwards83952 жыл бұрын

    My problem with the ribes, besides the worms, is dealing with the tops and tails.

  • @TeaCupSimmer
    @TeaCupSimmer2 жыл бұрын

    Do you think a serviceberry would work as a central plant in a guild?

  • @Hayley-sl9lm
    @Hayley-sl9lm Жыл бұрын

    Wow so you juneberries are in full sun? Maybe I need to get northline. Mine's leaves get really crispy really fast, even with supplemental water. Maybe my soil is just bad 😔. Would you recommend any kind of living mulch for these? Or are they like blueberries in that they don't want any cultivation around the base?

  • @imperfectlypermaculture
    @imperfectlypermaculture2 жыл бұрын

    I fantasize about finding a wild currant on my property, because it's likely the only way I'll be able to have one.

  • @susankaempfer8427

    @susankaempfer8427

    2 жыл бұрын

    Why?

  • @imperfectlypermaculture

    @imperfectlypermaculture

    2 жыл бұрын

    Illegal to purchase in Maine.

  • @JocelynCampbell

    @JocelynCampbell

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@imperfectlypermaculture are all currants illegal in Maine, or just the black currant?

  • @JocelynCampbell

    @JocelynCampbell

    2 жыл бұрын

    Nevermind - answered in several ways below! Such a bummer! I feel for you!

  • @imperfectlypermaculture

    @imperfectlypermaculture

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@JocelynCampbell all ribes species are restricted in the state.

  • @heidirexin5141
    @heidirexin51412 жыл бұрын

    Curious what the Juneberry varieties are that don't taste as good.

  • @stacyk.3402
    @stacyk.34022 жыл бұрын

    Do you by chance have any idea how to deal with hazelnut weevil? I was so excited for all the beautiful hazelnuts last year and many of the clusters fell prematurely. When we opened one still on the tree there was a little weevil inside and then was told they can be a problem

  • @MyHumbleNest

    @MyHumbleNest

    2 жыл бұрын

    kzread.info/dash/bejne/gY6dwbazery_Zqg.html. I am not remembering if the weevils are discussed on this video of Angela's, but it is worth a look-see.

  • @Hayley-sl9lm
    @Hayley-sl9lm2 жыл бұрын

    I got my saskatoon from the native plant section, with no variety name so I wonder what I'm going to get. I wonder how they take to grafting, maybe you could graft better fruiting varieties onto a plant that doesn't taste as good? I planted mine after coming across one in the wild at a state park. Stupid me I thought it was a huckleberry until I tasted it; but I shocked at how good it was, fruity/nutty at the same time -- so I went out and got one immediately. But yeah, I wonder where the nursery stock was from.

  • @shawns0762

    @shawns0762

    Жыл бұрын

    I discovered them while hiking in Wisconsin, could not believe how good they were

  • @janetbrewster680
    @janetbrewster6802 жыл бұрын

    Do you know if haskap are deer resistant? I’d like to grow them in my un fenced front yard but we have lots of deer here who come grazing frequently.

  • @ParkrosePermaculture

    @ParkrosePermaculture

    2 жыл бұрын

    They are supposed to be deer-resistant. I don't personally have an issue with deer, so I haven't tested that out, but everything I've read says deer don't like to eat the shrubs.

  • @jenn6838

    @jenn6838

    2 жыл бұрын

    the herd of 16+ deer that visit my property near-daily don't bother the haskap bushes. They do seem to like Lupine and Lilac bushes (both supposed to be deer resistant) I would defiantly try haskaps! Good luck

  • @nmnate

    @nmnate

    2 жыл бұрын

    If you're worried about survival, you can protect them for the first couple years. We had a bit of rabbit damage on ours the first couple years, but now that the shrubs are a bit bigger, the rabbits seem to be less interested (a couple canes disappear here and there, but not too bad). 'Resistant' is never 'proof' too a hungry animal.

  • @mountainfigsperennialfruits

    @mountainfigsperennialfruits

    2 жыл бұрын

    Deer gobble haskap in West Virginia. I grow it inside chicken wire. Deer gobble most things here, though not goumi. I protect with sticks or chicken wire.

  • @RiceTeaLover
    @RiceTeaLover2 жыл бұрын

    Can you do more beekeeping videos!!? 🐝

  • @ParkrosePermaculture

    @ParkrosePermaculture

    2 жыл бұрын

    Sure thing!

  • @formidableflora5951
    @formidableflora59512 жыл бұрын

    I have a well-established Northline juneberry, approximately 7 years in ground, that blooms beautifully every spring...but the berries dry up instead of ripening. Never eaten a single one, sadly. I believe I've sited it well, so I'm mystified--any suggestions appreciated. In contrast, blueberries, haskaps, and clove currants are highly productive here. New England 5b.

  • @ParkrosePermaculture

    @ParkrosePermaculture

    2 жыл бұрын

    Goodness, I honestly have no idea...no signs of mildew? It's not mummy berry? That is so frustrating :( I find one or two berries with cedar apple rust on them here every year on my 5 bushes but that's really been the only issue I've had (I think it will always been present, especially as my neighbors have cedars, I have apple and quince...it makes the rounds).

  • @formidableflora5951

    @formidableflora5951

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@ParkrosePermaculture No mildew. I'll investigate mummy berry; I'm not familiar with it. Thank you for the suggestion!

  • @shawns0762

    @shawns0762

    Жыл бұрын

    They don't like acidic soil, they won't be happy where blueberries will be happy

  • @formidableflora5951

    @formidableflora5951

    Жыл бұрын

    @@shawns0762 It's my understanding that juneberries tolerate a wide range in soil pH, including the acidic soil preferred by blueberries, but that they don't REQUIRE acidic soil like blueberries. My juneberry is growing and flowering vigorously, leading me to believe the plant is well-sited. I think there is a yet unidentified pathogen at play.

  • @shawns0762

    @shawns0762

    Жыл бұрын

    @@formidableflora5951 Maybe it's lonely, I would put some other serviceberries near it, maybe some cross pollination will help. I remember discovering them while hiking in Wisconsin, there isn't a better berry on the planet

  • @veelash3505
    @veelash35053 ай бұрын

    Which plant gives you fruits and which blooms first in your garden?

  • @ParkrosePermaculture

    @ParkrosePermaculture

    3 ай бұрын

    the first "fruit" I get out of my garden is rhubarb. the first berry are honeyberries.

  • @veelash3505

    @veelash3505

    3 ай бұрын

    @@ParkrosePermaculture Thank you

  • @eulerizeit
    @eulerizeit2 жыл бұрын

    Currents aren't allowed in MA. It makes me sad

  • @shredmetalshred7395

    @shredmetalshred7395

    2 жыл бұрын

    red ones should be, the black ones are the banned ones, yellow should be a go too

  • @eulerizeit

    @eulerizeit

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@shredmetalshred7395 all currents and gooseberries are a no go here.

  • @tmac2166

    @tmac2166

    2 жыл бұрын

    Try Nourse Farms. Not all towns in MA are banned. They are the only grower I've found that will ship to the unbanned areas. You can also do a search on which towns are ok.

  • @Fragrantbeard
    @Fragrantbeard Жыл бұрын

    Came back to watch this for inspiration...I'm exceedingly fond of my gooseberries, but constantly angry with the pest competition.

  • @tulsiramdagur9580
    @tulsiramdagur9580 Жыл бұрын

    हैलो दोस्त आप बहुत अच्छे हैं आपकी नर्सरी बहुत सुंदर है आपसे बहुत उपयोगी जानकारी मिल रही है। मुझे ब्लू बेरी प्लांट खरीद करने हैं, किस प्रकार खरीद सकता हूं। भविष्य में भी बहुत उपयोगी जानकारी चाहिए आप मेरे दोस्त बन सकते हैं। आपका इंडिया में स्वागत है व इंडिया घुमने आना चाहिए धन्यवाद

  • @tulsiramdagur9580
    @tulsiramdagur9580 Жыл бұрын

    आपका वाट्सएप न मिल सकता है

  • @ParkrosePermaculture

    @ParkrosePermaculture

    Жыл бұрын

    I don’t do WhatsApp

  • @tulsiramdagur9580

    @tulsiramdagur9580

    Жыл бұрын

    @@ParkrosePermaculture okay thanks

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    @tulsiramdagur9580

    Жыл бұрын

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    @tulsiramdagur9580

    Жыл бұрын

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