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Top 3 Steering Stabilizer Myths BUSTED | What You Need to Know
After getting lots of calls from people looking for the facts on steering stabilizers, we figured we’d make a video that addressed some of the common myths and set the record straight! In this video we cover death wobble, steering play, dual stabilizers, and more! Still have questions? Just ask in the comments!
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2012 F350 Super Duty Crew Cab Long Bed I want to share my experience with everyone stepping into the “death wobble” game. I have been driving Chevys for the last 30 years, so I was a stranger to the death wobble issue that Fords are plagued with. I bought the truck used at a Ford dealer in October of 2020. It was in very good cosmetic shape and what seemed to be good engine and transmission condition. It had 185,000 miles on it. The tires were all new as well. In the first month, I had some serious vibration issues coming from the front left tire. Ford had used a third party to install this set of tires, so I went to the installer to have them checked. Clearly, the front left tire had a ‘rise’ on it. Even though the business acknowledged it, they refused to warranty it - and they only had about 100 miles on them. I had the tire put on the rear to get the vibration out of the front end. Fast forward to November of 2021 - This was the first time I had a death wobble on the truck. I thought it was a flat tire. It did it twice on the trip and I was perplexed because I couldn’t find any issue that would merit such a horrible gyration. After that day, it was intermittent and random. But as the months passed, it became more frequent. After having pull this stunt in big city traffic on overhead freeways, I knew something had to be done. I took it to an old school wheel alignment shop that I have been using for years. They were very familiar with the issue and kept a stock of the necessary Ford OEM parts to replace everything with. However, it did not fix the issue. After a couple of months, I purchased the SuperLift Dual Steering Stabilizer kit and the required 3-inch leveler (I found mine on AmericanTrucks.com) with Bilstein Shocks for the front. I took the truck to a local diesel mechanic, and he swore that the stabilizer kit would do nothing for the death wobble. He pointed out some parts he believed to have play in them and guaranteed me that replacing those would fix it. He was wrong. I did not have him put the kit on afterwards. I took the truck home and decided to do the work myself. I wanted to put in the shocks first and test it to see if that alleviated the issue before putting on the stabilizer kit. On removing the stock shocks, the left one was clearly shot and the right one was right behind it. I put the leveler kit on installed the new shocks with a new trackbar bracket to compensate for the added height. I had it realigned, and the problem was worse than before. I then installed the SuperLift Dual Steering Stabilizer kit and the issue stopped. I have taken it over bad spot I know that would throw it into convulsions before and it never went into the wobble. Therefore, for me, the stabilizer kit did fix the issue. There is no doubt for me that the tires are a part of the issue. But eating another $2,000 bucks to replace tires that have 10,000 miles on them is quite unattractive. For now, this will carry me to the point when I’m ready to purchase a new set. This has been my experience with the whole issue - not just conjecture. I hope it helps someone else trying to fix this idiotic setup by Ford.
@danamcwhite
9 ай бұрын
Your issue is the track bar and track bar brace. Get heavy duty off-road tie rod, drag bar and track bar you’ll be good
@drjas63
9 ай бұрын
@@danamcwhite Thanks for the input. I had already the things you've stated, except they were OEM. Since the stabilizer addition and a set of new Goodyears, no more problems.
Had death wobble in my 2nd gen ram 1500. To fix it replaced the track bar and tie rod ends. Steering stabilizer wasnt a fix, just covered up the problem. Running clapped out ball joints with no real issue.
Lifted '16 RAM 2500 on Carli Back Country with 35" ATIIIs. Rides like a dream, no need for stabilizers yet.
Thank you. Very informative. Considered a stablelizer and now I went to check the linkage. Turns out that there's a huge indent as if previous owner jacked it up using the linkage. Thanks so much.
Solid video, just one comment for others. Cody made a point toward the end about a steering stabilizer "fixing" death wobble and commented how it's true and false. Replacing a steering stabilizer when you have death wobble will help mask the wobble only if the wobble isn't severe and only until the wobble wears out the stabilizer. Even if you wobble isn't bad the longer you run around with it the more it's going to bear up that steering stabilizer among other things until you address the problem. On a JK I used to own I went through 3 different steering stabilizers in under a year due to the issue. It wasn't until I tracked down the root problem and from that day on never had an issue with it.
@kenroot5682
3 жыл бұрын
Yep. Jeeps are good for worn track bar bushings, which allow the whole axle to shift, side-to-side, and starts death wobble.
@603Cummins
3 жыл бұрын
@@kenroot5682 My issue was actually a relatively known issue of the incorrect size of bolt going through the track bar mount. I don't know how many years but apparently jeep has used a metric bolt with a SAE hole which when lifted with larger tires caused the mount to ovalize. Installing a synergy track bar brace solved my issue there but I was mainly bringing it up to let others know that you'll continue to wear out shocks for your stabilizer if you don't correct the core problem.
@kenroot5682
3 жыл бұрын
That’s interesting. I’m not Jeep guy, so not familiar with the bolt deal. But, am familiar with track bar bushing wear, going back to the 70’s Fords and newer Jeeps.
@ronzalabak3583
Жыл бұрын
I dnt no wat jk is
@603Cummins
Жыл бұрын
@@ronzalabak3583 jk refers to the jeep JK, or the specific generation of jeeps.
He look like the lil boy from the Christmas movie ... were his dad order a leg lamp
@brucedressel8873
3 жыл бұрын
You mad little feller ?
@thinkclear3834
Жыл бұрын
😂😂😂😂
@JAHMALCHRIS06
Жыл бұрын
@@brucedressel8873 are you mad at what I said 🤔🤔🤔🤔😤🥲🤣🤣🤣🤣
@vonnieboy7878
Жыл бұрын
😂😂😂😂😂😂
@jet0577
Жыл бұрын
Lol.
I run a dual steering stabilizer on my truck with stock size tires. Just like how they feel when towing heavy with my Ram Cummins.
HELP PLEASE!! I'm SO confused! I just bought a jeep wrangler, it has a little bit of a lift, heavy rims and tires (35's). It also has a dual shock steering stabilizer set up (nothing fancy). I was told by a well known Jeep modification shop they were a bad idea and I should take them off and go with a simple Stabilizer bar. I am reading so many different takes on this. I will never off-road in this Wrangler, I just want it to be as safe as possible, track a straight line, and handle paved curvy roads. So far this video seems like the best educated take on this. Just to be sure though,...You say take them off and go with a single bar?????? THANKS for any help!
@MrStaybrown
2 жыл бұрын
Single is all you need
So if I paid for a RC 6”lift all new ball joints, tie rods, upper control arms, lower control arms and front wheel bearings and new 17” wheels with RT 35”s and still have a lil play in my steering wheel, I should buy a steering stabilizer? 2005 Chevy Tahoe 4WD
Hi Cody. How’s it going. I have a 2019 f250. With a 2inch spacer on stock wheels. I get the death wobble every time I hit a bump on the freeway, Specially the 91hwy. What do you recommend. It’s pretty scary specially when I’m commuting with the wife and girls. What do I need to not ever ever experience this again.
Question will this stabilizer help me not to go through tires so quickly cuz I have a 2015 GMC Sierra Denali 2500 with 6-in lift kit on 35 and just the driver side the inner tire where is out a lot quicker than the other three tires but everything is in the green now as it should be when I get it aligned so if I get a stabilizer will that make a difference.
I have a 2016 2500hd chevy pickup with 41 thousand miles I put and 8 offset wheel on a went a shorter but wider tire and on the roads down her we have grooves in them from trucks and sometimes it will catch them and also pull a camper and fifth wheel trailer and would like to avoid the bump steer what do you recommend for a steering stabilizer?
Appreciate the straight forward truth
_I have a quad-steering-stabilizer, two hands on the wheel, and two shock stabilizer... I have a smooth ride, but my knuckles are white driving around! Just say! Great information, thanks!_
I have a 92 Ford F150 my steering wheel is loose and I have stabilizer and I no shock bushings and it pulls to my right or left can it be because I don’t have no bushings
***QUESTION*** I gotta ? So I have a 2019 F350 Lariat set up with 37 Toyo Mt (the only tire I will use) 22x12 -44 offset wheel, with a 6 inch Zone lift with fox 2.0 shocks. So I have 47000 miles on the truck now, the truck rides great! No wobble, no pulling, etc. The truck couldn't ride better! That being said, so my question and concern is would the steering stabilizer help with the tie rods, the front end long haul performance, plus the other components within the wheels setup?? Thankyou
My friends Jeep with all brand new suspension parts with zero play and good caster has death wobble. Put the fox stabilizer on and zero wobble. I think the harmonics of his tire setup combine with short wheel base caused it. The damper seem to absorb it
2002 f350 6” lift 37x13.5x18 what would u recommend?
2016 ram 2500 diesel with a thuren level and 37in R/Ts on 18s. It wonders a bit if I accelerate fairly hard. It also pulls to the right when braking. Would a high mount stabilizer fix that?
@ProWolf32T
Жыл бұрын
Check your brakes if it's pulling right, has something to do with brake fluid, brake caliper, brake rotor, or the actual brakes, the steering wouldn't fix a pull but it might fix the wandering
I upgraded to a mud tire and got a fresh alignment but now pulls to the left on highway will a aftermarket stabilizer help that?
87 K5 Blazer half ton 4-wheel drive V10 I was running 33 and I've just recently got the death wobble only on the right front I took it to my local front-end guy with over 40 years of experience he done all his tests and couldn't find anything wrong he did make one suggestion change the steering stabilizer bring it back in realign and cross my fingers have you got any suggestions thank you
Do you have a gas shock stabilizer option for Jeep Wrangler. I have 37” Toyo muds and they pull right. I hate it. Have a teraflex 2.2 on stiff setting which helps but want to get something that pushes against that pull to right. Thanks.
I have the ats. It’s amazing. I had no pull but I had a lot of feedback. No feed back even off road now at the middle of the stiffness adjustment
@CJCOffRoad
3 жыл бұрын
The ATS is perfect for people like you that don’t have pull, but really want to squash any feedback!
I have your 2.5 level system on my 16 3500 along with the track bar and sway bar upgrade. I have 35x12.5 toyos at2's. Noticed a slight loose feeling for a split second everytime I turn right. somethings seems to be slightly loose? I took the steering stabilizer off and it seems to contract and expand smoothly. Not sure what else it could be. I guessed the stabilizer at first but I'm not so sure now. Apparently one lower ball joint is ready to be replaced 100k miles bit it was still good enough as to where the truck took the alignment just fine after the level instal. Any suggestions?
@CJCOffRoad
Жыл бұрын
Watch this video, follow along, and you'll be able to track down the exact source of your issue: kzread.info/dash/bejne/moGgtpNwe9Lgeqg.html
Hi. We have a Ford excursion. Fairly big lift lift and tires. All over the road . We just bit the billet for new upper and lower ball joints on the solid front axle. Didn’t do much. Oh and alignment. Now Pukked off the steering stabilizer shocks and they are fabtech seem old and worn. Thining about putting down new decent stabilizer shocks on What do you think and any tips ?
2nd.. what about a shock stabilizer that has a spring over the shock? That work on radial pull like gas more expensive nitrogen chargef
What about for a 95 international 4700. 245/70/19.50 tires on wrecker. ? Will it work
Very informative, question who makes the best steering stabilizer in your opinion? Rough country? Fox? King? Billistein? Carli?
@CJCOffRoad
2 жыл бұрын
Carli gets the top spot, followed by Fox and King.
Question: Will a steering stabilizer help with longevity of steering components? I have a 2021 F350 Tremor with under 30k miles. I have currently have no issues with my steering.
@CJCOffRoad
2 жыл бұрын
Actually yes, since a stabilizer's job is to reduce shock and impact transmitted to the steering box. They won't help prevent wear in the steering linkage joints, but do protect everything up stream!
What if ya install the stabilizer backwards ? Will it still work okay ?
What is you opinion of the Safe-T-Plus steering stabilizer that is used on Class A Rv and bigger.
I have an '85 Chevy G30 Chevy Van. New tie rod ends, pitman arm, idler arm and front sway bar bushings. Still drifts slightly on the highway. Its much better than before but still not like new. Would a steering damper help? Thanks.
2014 Jeep JKU 4" lift w/KO2s. All new Synergy steering components. I have no pull either way, so I'm not trying to correct anything. Which stabilizer should I go with and why?
@vinceguarino9145
2 жыл бұрын
37x12.5x17 KO2s
Will they help with bump steer?
I own a 2019 F250 and would like to know your recommendation for a sterring stabilizer. Thanks, great channel
@CJCOffRoad
Жыл бұрын
We highly recommend a Carli high mount or low mount stabilizer: www.cjcoffroad.com/collections/ford-steering-upgrades-and-components
My truck runs great but once I hit about 75 MPH I have a steering wheel and truck shake. I have tried re-balancing tires. Using balancing beads and nothing works. I raised the truck 2.5 with a leveling kit and put 37 under it from the stock 35.5 tires. Would a steering stabilizer fix this problem.
@CJCOffRoad
10 ай бұрын
It would help, but you'd be treating the symptom rather than fixing the root cause. What year is your truck? We have a few how to videos that will help you track down the issue.
1978 on 16X35 tires. Do you recommend the after market dual steering stabilizers for this application? Can’t find many other options and curious if you have a take
I’m running a stock 99 jeep XJ. Have had no issues. Just put on a new track bar and now I feel pulsing in my steering wheel as it returns to zero at low speed. What can that be?
@CJCOffRoad
Жыл бұрын
Sounds like the track bar either isn't torqued enough, or there's play in the joints.
Hey Cody. Another great video, teasing me yet again, with the prototype "skid" plate on the 2020 Ram. Can't wait to buy one!!! Any updates? Signed, sleepless in Seattle (Dave ). Seriously though, I really enjoy the informational videos you all produce. I'm hooked on CJC.
@thatirongsa1561
3 жыл бұрын
Same!! I want that skid plate badly! Also hey hey from Washington!
@CJCOffRoad
3 жыл бұрын
They are SO close. Currently in production now and should be ready in a couple weeks! Launching a new product in a COVID world has been challenging to say the least!
@dzaino1986
3 жыл бұрын
@@CJCOffRoad standing by Cody!
I'm experiencing a radial pull to the right since I went taller and wider tires.
Hey, I got a leveling kit on my 08 ram with the T style linkage. Replaced, shocks, shocks, adjusted trackbar, tie rod ends, drag link ends and got a fox steering stabilizer and now i have dead wobble. Kept the same stock wheels and tires. Ball joints don’t have any weird play on them. Got an alignment as well. What can i do to fix this new dead wobble?
@franmer100
Жыл бұрын
08 ram 2500 cummins
@CJCOffRoad
Жыл бұрын
Give this video a watch and follow along to check over your front end. That will tell you where the play is coming from, and then we can work to get it taken care of! kzread.info/dash/bejne/moGgtpNwe9Lgeqg.html Feel free to email us at: Sales@cjcoffroad.com
2020 Sahara JL, replaced the factory tires with 33’s, no lift kit. Do you think a fox steering stabilizer will be an improvement?
@CJCOffRoad
2 жыл бұрын
It will likely make a difference, but not a ton.
Is it beneficial to run both an ats fox steering stabilizer and a dual steering stabilizer ?
I just put 255/80/17 Toyo mts on my 08 Dodge 3500 dually that has 185k miles on it. I got new ball joints and tie rod ends installed at the same time along with an alignment and now I'm experiencing my truck wondering left and right when driving over 50 mph. Any idea what could cause this?
@CJCOffRoad
Жыл бұрын
Give this a video a watch, follow along, and you'll be able to track down the source of your play: kzread.info/dash/bejne/moGgtpNwe9Lgeqg.html
@dylanbennett2673
Жыл бұрын
@@CJCOffRoad awesome! Thanks for the reply and link. I watched it and have a better idea what to look for now. I was looking at new steering stabilizers but from my understanding that doesn't really effect slop and the wondering correct? I checked my OEM stabilizer this morning and it felt smooth, maybe a little easy to push in and out though.
what stabilizer would you recommend for 2nd gen 35 tires? maybe one day that would still handle 37s well?
@stephenhansen8034
3 жыл бұрын
Fox ts ats
Can you add fox dual stabilizers on a 21 F150? Having the 2” fox leveling kit and really heavy wheels and tires I’d like to have the fox stabilizers if possible? Want longevity as much as possible!
Great video as usual 👍🏻
Hey there I have a question.... I have a 2016 F-250 super duty 6.2L gas ..... my stock tire size was 245/70R17 I replaced them with 285/55R20 factory take offs from a 2017 ..... which is a factory option truck has 65,000 miles now and I do a lot of high way driving..... I do not have a death wobble..... should I add a duel kit for more stability and piece of mind???????
@CJCOffRoad
3 жыл бұрын
Honestly we’d just enjoy the truck as it is! When yours gets tired, make the move to this: www.cjcoffroad.com/Carli-08-16-Ford-Super-Duty-High-Mount-Stabilizer-p/cs-fhmss-08.htm
I have an 04 volvo xc70 (@monsterxc70) with a full custom lift. I just did a tierod flip to straighten the steering angles and now it feels loose and floating over bumps (bad bump steer). Is there a steering stabilizer for a rack and pinion system?
If you have a stock height Jeep Wrangler JK do yourself a favor change the steering stabilizer. I feel Jeep isn't installed with the appropriate steering stabilizer even with street tires.
you have anything that will fit on my 94 Bronco? I have a 6in lift on it from Pro-Comp stage 3
@CJCOffRoad
3 жыл бұрын
Hit up these guys: desolatemotorsports.com
19 f250 2.5" level 37"maxxis razr. Hard pull left. Rotated three times so far, and alignment is perfect. I know you mentioned a typical pull right, do you have a solution for pull left?
@chadworrell4715
3 жыл бұрын
I read your other responses. Nevermind. Thank you for the info in this video.
I have 22 f250 stock, it seems to just want wander or doesn’t want stay in the lane, is this my solution?
@CJCOffRoad
2 жыл бұрын
Our recommendation for that is to add some caster! Ford sends these trucks out very light on caster from the factory. Install these: www.cjcoffroad.com/products/carli-ford-super-duty-caster-correction-shims?_pos=1&_sid=a02784feb&_ss=r
2011 Ford 250 4.5 Carli lift and toyo rt Tires I'm getting the upper carli do u recommend the lower as well Thanks
@CJCOffRoad
3 жыл бұрын
We typically only recommend doing both the upper and lower Carli for trucks that see hard dirt miles. For basic daily driving, having both is a bit overkill!
@michaelmerrill7434
3 жыл бұрын
Thanks
What is the difference between a high stabilized and a low stabilizer?
@Jason_Shave
3 жыл бұрын
Low = correct left-hand pull High = correct right-hand pull
@CJCOffRoad
3 жыл бұрын
It depends on the exact truck and steering configuration. Essentially Carli has a high mount that attaches to the drag link, and a low mount that goes to the tie rod. Both are oriented in different directions to harness the native pushing power of a nitrogen charged damper. You’ll want to choose a stabilizer that pushes in the opposite direction your tires pull. If you choose to run both the high and low mount, you can adjust them to work together to keep your truck tracking straight, and to damp feedback into your steering from the road. Having a stabilizer on the drag link and tie rod is a much more effective way to damp steering than having duals that are both on the tie rod.
What's the big difference between high mount and low mount does it make much of a difference for weekend warrior
@CJCOffRoad
2 жыл бұрын
We made a whole video about that! kzread.info/dash/bejne/o4im0pOkk7LQeps.html
If I have no radial pull but want a stabilizer, could I run the low mount or high mount? Or are those only for when you have a pull to the left or right?
@CJCOffRoad
2 жыл бұрын
Either one can be a neutral stabilizer at 40-70 psi of nitrogen charge actually. It's just the people with a pull that need to specifically choose one or the other.
@aaronvandecker742
Жыл бұрын
@@CJCOffRoadHi, what if I have a slight pull at low speeds? A pull to the left and to the right, do I need a carli nitrogen high and low steering shock or could I get away with a regular shock?
Awesome video! Question, I recently placed a 2.5 lift/leveling kit on my 2020 Gladiator and put 35" tires. I know you mentioned your concerns about going with too budget friendly products, but what are your thoughts or have you heard any reviews on Rough Country's N3 dual steering stabilizers? Appreciate any feedback, thanks!
@CJCOffRoad
2 жыл бұрын
We would personally steer clear of them and favor a Fox 2.0 as a budget friendly option.
@dieselmex1808
Жыл бұрын
I just put a RC 3.5” kit on a Chevy duramax and the shocks are complete garbage
@topher420s
10 ай бұрын
What brand did you go with? Asking for a friend
Do you recommend the Fox PERFORMANCE SERIES 2.0 STABILIZER TS for a 2017 2500HD L5P Denali. I will be lifting with a 3" BDS Coil over kit with CST Tie rods and Nitto Ridge Grapplers @ 35x12.5x20's. This is a IFS suspension of course and just wanted to hear your recommendations.
@darthchorizo3743
3 жыл бұрын
@@douganderson7002 Yeah I finally realized that small fact.
what size tires and rims are on that black ford in the video
So what would you recommend for a 17 F250 with a 2” lift and leveling kit on 37s R20s? I don’t necessarily have a right or left pull but when I hit uneven surfaces, my steering wheel tries to take me either way. Thank you.
@katieneubaum4284
2 жыл бұрын
I would try a steering box stabilizer from synergy or Spohn performance. They’re meant to increase the rigidity of where your power steering box is mounted to your pitman arm… Mine helped me reduce steering slop and bump steer ✨ The phenomenon you are describing✨ significantly.
Was waiting for dude to bring out Stewart little
what are wheel and tire specs on black f250 ? I know methods, but offset and size
Do you have a Recommended kit for a '19 tundra with a 6in lift and 35in tires? I've been debating getting stabilizer but I don't know anything about them.
Hey quick question I have a 2006 Tacoma looking for some stabilizers. I'm running a 6inch lift w/ 36. Which stabilizer would be the best for me??
Do u have a stabilizer that will work on a 01 dodge 2500 with 4th gen tie rods on it thanks
I’ve got a 2022 ram 2500 with the Carli 2.5 and have started to get a slight right pull and minor wobble in the front end. I’ve got the fox steering stabilizer and everything seems tight but the problem is getting worse. Any suggestions?
@mikeyschmidt20
4 ай бұрын
Possible wheel bearings
@muddyram
4 ай бұрын
@@mikeyschmidt20 with 20k miles on it?
@mikeyschmidt20
4 ай бұрын
It could also very well be the ball joints. Dodge is known to run into this issue even around 20k miles. Hopefully you can find the issue. That has to be frustrating
@muddyram
4 ай бұрын
@@mikeyschmidt20 I appreciate the info. Thanks
04 ram 1500 with leveling kit. What should I get?
I have a completely stock 2020 F250 4x4 and I plan on leaving it completely stock. (No lift, leveling, or tire size changes) Am I understanding correctly that a Fox ATS stabilizer would make the steering more stiff. I don’t like how easy it steers I want to feel a little more resistance in the steering
@jeffuyen7930
Жыл бұрын
Just curious if you got your answer I’m in the same situation
@80spyder1
Жыл бұрын
@@jeffuyen7930 I installed a Fox ATS stabilizer. I really like it. You have to get under the truck of course to turn a screw to adjust the steering stiffness but once you get it adjusted you can just forget about it.
So I have a 2020 ram 3500 with Toto 37 12.5 20 and a right hand pull. What steering stabilizer do you recommend and what is the price?
@CJCOffRoad
3 жыл бұрын
With a right hand pull you want a Carli high mount. Those will be available in early 2021 so keep an eye on our social media!
Great info, thank you.
@CJCOffRoad
3 жыл бұрын
You bet!
Why yall don't carry chevy truck stabilizers
For a truck set up like your Do It All Ford video, running 37 ATs instead of MTs, how would replacing the factory steering damper with a King replacement compare to that PMF kit in terms of functionality? Are the dual stabilizers really necessary with an 37 AT tire?
@CJCOffRoad
3 жыл бұрын
A true dual (one on the drag link and one on the tie rod) stabilizer set up is ALWAYS the preferred route over having two on the tie rod like most of the dual kits on the market. For trucks getting driven off road hard we recommend both, but for a daily driver you only need one. We recommend the low mount for Fords with Toyo MT tires and the high mount for everything else!
All I know is I had a stock Jeep. It wobbled like a freak a day before rent due. Changed everything. Tires, rods, rotors, you name it. Changed the stock stabilizer and it all stopped.
I’m trying to decide between the ats and the Carli high mount. Is the ats better than the carli for correcting steering feedback as that is my main issue? Or is the Carli high mount basically just as good for that? - 2017 f250 with 37s
@CJCOffRoad
3 жыл бұрын
The big difference is that the ATS is a neutral stabilizer, so it will not work to correct for tire pull like the Carli high or low stabilizer do. If you’re looking for a neutral stabilizer with adjustable damping though the Fox ATS is fantastic!
@michaelherbin1517
3 жыл бұрын
@@CJCOffRoad Thanks! But I'm curious if the Carli dampens as well as the Fox ATS?
Good work love the vids
any recommendations for a stabilizer on a Tremor, stock height & tires?
@CJCOffRoad
3 жыл бұрын
The Fox ATS, Carli stabilizer or Fox 2.0 are all good options!
Got anything for a 2002 F150 w a 5 inch lift and 35in tires and 20 in rims?
Minty movie .thanks !
Everything is new. Has death wobble. Everything has been checked. By three 4x4 shops. They said bad tires. So mew tires 37 mickey Thompson. Still has death wobble. I'm replacing my track bar. It's seteersmarts. With there new bushings. The stabilizer seems like junk. It has been reached twice already under warranty too. I have a ecodiesel gladiator. At this point every good stabilizer seems months out to get. I can get the superlift duel that has bilstiens for 299. By next monday. What's your take on that product. 🤔 . Plus I had the tires rebalnced and still has issues. So new track bar and new stabilizer
@CJCOffRoad
2 жыл бұрын
A stabilizer will NEVER fix your death wobble! There is some part on the truck that's detective, so until you chase that down you'll have wobble! We have a complete video dedicated to death wobble on the Ford and Ram trucks. Your Jeep has a similar front end, so watch the Ram video and go through everything to check for wear and play!
Hey I have a F250 2021 this stabilizer would not help SUPERLIFT |92722| Dual Steering Stabilizer Kit with Fox 2.0 Shocks for 2005-2021 Ford F-250/F-350 Super Duty 4 Wheel Drive
@CJCOffRoad
3 жыл бұрын
If you have death wobble that stabilizer will not help. You’ll want to fix the actual source of the issue.
@christopherdale354
3 жыл бұрын
@@CJCOffRoad I currently have no issues I was wanting to do duel stabilizers just to help! Or would I get any benefit with doing that
dude at the dealership said a new stabilizer would fix me DW. i knew it wouldn't.
Can you run stabilizers on 2wd trucks
2008 f250 6 inch lift on 37s. New track bar and still has play in the steering. Any recommendations besides those cheap dual shocks like u was saying? 🤙
@CJCOffRoad
3 жыл бұрын
You’ll want to watch this video and track down the real source of the play on the truck before buying anything else. That way you know exactly what to replace. Our guess is you have some tired joints in the steering! kzread.info/dash/bejne/moGgtpNwe9Lgeqg.html
@808BudSmoker
3 жыл бұрын
@@CJCOffRoad thank you much appreciated. She only has 60k miles lol smh I'll get under her and double check
@jamiemcawley1147
2 жыл бұрын
The problem is the steering box. Ford uses a Cardone steering box which are junk. Try looking at a Redhead steering box. It has tighter spindles and you will see less play in the steering.
Geat video. Running 37's with a 2.5 Leveling kit on my 2019 F250, looking at purchasing the Fox 2.0 Dual Stabilizers. What is your thought on this setup to prevent radial pull to the right?
@CJCOffRoad
3 жыл бұрын
You’ll want to run a Carli high mount to correct for a right hand pull. The dual Fox 2.0 setups won’t be able to account for a right pull, which is why we always prefer the Carli high/low setup!
@wyliecoyote5.082
3 жыл бұрын
@@CJCOffRoad do you have a link for this setup?
Got an 05 with the 4.5 inch commuter. Carli only has the high mount for the 08+. Could I retro fit it or would it just bolt on
@CJCOffRoad
3 жыл бұрын
No you’ll want to just stick with the low mount at a neutral pressure, or a neutral steering stabilizer like the ATS.
@SLSfan25
3 жыл бұрын
@@CJCOffRoad Thanks for the info. When I do the lower mount should I get rid of the factory high mount or leave it?
Will it fix loose steering and wandering?
@CJCOffRoad
9 ай бұрын
They can helps, but there's like worn parts causing your issue. We have videos on that topic!
JLs had defective stabilizers right off the hop, very wobbly.
Will that work for the death wobble that ram is known for
@CJCOffRoad
2 жыл бұрын
We have a whole video about fixing death wobble! It's nothing more that figuring out what part is worn out! kzread.info/dash/bejne/moGgtpNwe9Lgeqg.html
Thanks dudes
2008 tacoma the wheel kicks when I hit bumps
Nice video, I was looking at the Fox TS for my 2016 Ram 2500 6” lift with 37” w/Falken AT3 You made a comment about it not being nitro charged and a wildcard. Would you recommend the Fox or a nitro charge stabalizer?
@CJCOffRoad
3 жыл бұрын
It all depends on what you’re after! The TS and ATS are great neutral stabilizers if you aren’t looking to account for tire pull, but the Carli high/low is the way to go if you want to have a neutral stabilizer, or need to use the nitrogen pressure to account for tire pull.
@kevinrush5254
3 жыл бұрын
Are you able to do a Carli high/low on a ram 2016?
What about gravel and road salt protection
Do stabilizers help with the feeling of vehicle roll at high speed corners
@CJCOffRoad
2 жыл бұрын
Nope, that's your sway bar!
@mllpza
2 жыл бұрын
@@CJCOffRoad thanks!!!
CJC Off Road, @5:14 What size wheels are those on the black Ford, and what offset would that be on the Method's? I'm looking for that exact setup for my 2019 F250 and can't figure out if it's a 17" wheel w/ 0 offset, or 18" wheel w/ -12 offset, or maybe a +18 offset. Thank you!
@CJCOffRoad
3 жыл бұрын
That truck is on a 4.5” Carli system with a -12 offset 18” wheel with 38” tires. To fit 37s on a Super Duty with a 2.5” system, we typically recommend around a 5” backspace number. O offset to +12 offset on a 8.5-9.5” wide wheel is ideal.
I have a 2020 tremor on 35x12.50 ridge grapplers. I plan on moving to 37s. Would the fox ats be the best way to go? For my setup
@CJCOffRoad
3 жыл бұрын
Are you looking to stay with Ridge Grapplers?
@Blue_Flame_Raptor
3 жыл бұрын
@@CJCOffRoad yes
@CJCOffRoad
3 жыл бұрын
Then the ATS should work, but the Carli high mount is probably our preferred set up. Either way you’ll be happy compared to stock!
@Blue_Flame_Raptor
3 жыл бұрын
@@CJCOffRoad thanks!
Off topic but the video snips of the ram in this video where those taken at rowher flats
@CJCOffRoad
3 жыл бұрын
They were indeed!
Recently put 37in cooper stt pros on my ram 2500. Every time I go pass 55mph I start to feel a slight tremble. Will a steering stabilizer take the tremble away?
@CJCOffRoad
3 жыл бұрын
No a steering stabilizer will only mask the actual issue. You’ll want to track down the real issue first!
Toby from the office!!