Very cool list! Really like your videos! My top 10: 1. Bill Bruford 2. Phil Collins 3. Neil Peart 4. Carl Palmer 5. Jaki Liebezeit 6. Jerzy Piotrowski 7. Gavin Harrison 8. Matt Garstka 9. Michael Giles 10. Pat Mastelotto

@cywil6919

Жыл бұрын

SBB underrated

Phil’s drumming on ‘The Cinema Show’ always blows me away. The live version of that song from Seconds Out and the video on KZread are just a masterclass. Also, the groove that he provided on ‘Turn It On Again’ makes you completely not realize that the song is in 13/4. He’s that good.

@TheProgCorner

2 жыл бұрын

Yes he is!!! Just amazing.

@ladrum6623

10 ай бұрын

​@@TheProgCorneron the live version of seconds out of " the cinema show" its bill brufford drumming.

@TheProgCorner

10 ай бұрын

@ladrum6623 Don’t Bill and Phil both play drums on that track?

100% agree with your top 5, or maybe I'd swap Collins and Portnoy. And yes for Brand X. Moroccan Roll is amazing.

@TheProgCorner

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah, those guys at the top are kind of interchangeable (except the Doctor and the Professor!)

Great list, in a Top 50 you can include Jaki Liebezeit, Pip Pyle, Richard Coughlan, Andy Ward, Ian Wallace, Virgil Donati, Nick Mason, Raymond Wilson, Hans Bathelt, Furio Chirico, Pierre Moerlen, Clive Bunker, Jordi Colomer, Guy Evans, John Marshall, Franz Di Cioccio, Curt Cress, among others.

Great list to create a great discussion. Totally belies the joke "what do you call someone who hangs out with musicians - - A Drummer" . Yeah, Bill Bruford probably is the greatest drummer that ever played prog. Shout out too for Andy Edwards who played for a short while in IQ and was in Frost and is currently in Rain, and has a fantastic You Tube channel where he mainly talks about jazz rock fusion , jazz and a bit of prog. Also you give an honourable mention for Andy Ward in the comments below but how about Dennis Clement of Camel's latest line up; and Ian Mosley who was the absolute right choice for Marillion; and then there's guys like Mel Pritchard of Barclay James Harvest and Graeme Edge of the Moody Blues - both never showy but hugely effective - and Tony Fernandez who played for ever with Rick Wakeman There will be loads more but if you were to include Mahavishnu Orchestra, Return to Forever and Frank Zappa under the umbrella of prog, then as well as the phenomenal Billy Cobham you could also include Narada Michael Walden, Lenny White, Steve Gadd and Vinnie Colaiuta. And then what about Tony Williams - culd Lifetime be regarded as Prog - I tend to think they could - or at least as progressive. And as for Ringo Starr - most of the drummers mentioned above and in the list would probably, if asked, rank him as one of the very best of all time and I think you can rightly inlcude him if you see the Beatles as being one of if not THE catalyst for progressive rock as a whole. A problem with all the above is who do you leave out of your list, as all of those are great? Then again lists are fairly meaningless apart for the person who creates them and as a means of engendering a discussion or debate, as we'll all have our own favourites, and I dont believe you can ever really say that person X is the best at Y as there are far too many parameters and variables by which the 'best' could be defined. Its still fun to do though.

@TheProgCorner

2 жыл бұрын

Some excellent players there but I actually thought about Andy Edwards!!! Billy Cobham probably should be on a Prog list. I just think I was quick to “disqualify” drummers to whittle it down to 25.

@terryjohnson5275

2 жыл бұрын

@@TheProgCorner Yeah, that the thing with top 25 or top ten etc. lists, its not necessarily difficult to pick the ones you put in its trying to decide who to leave out. Sometimes for you, your first thought will be the right one at that time, and if it changes the next day, so be it, and if anyone gets upset that you left someone out I'd just tell them that its my list- you do yours. As Pete Pardo if reknowned for saying - we all hear things differently.

Great list! I’m not sure how much you have listened to Leprous, but Baard Kolstad from that band is easily in my top 10. Most creative, fun and powerful prog-drummer I’ve heard in long time.

@TheProgCorner

2 жыл бұрын

I’m slowly working my way towards liking Leprous…

@dbc3015

2 жыл бұрын

Leprous is sick dude !!

@TheProgCorner

2 жыл бұрын

I’m getting there.

Hey Scot! Excellent vid! I knew Bruford would be your number one. He is(was) awesome. As I told you I don't do lists, but you had some of my favorites in yours. Simon Phillips I saw with Jeff Beck and also with Zappa many years ago. Will mention some of my favorite drummers in no particular order or music classification. Bill Bruford, Alan White, Neil Peart, John Bonham, Ringo Starr, Nick Mason, Joey Kramer, Simon Phillips, Phil Collins, Chester Thompson, Buddy Rich, Ian Paice, Carl Palmer, Dave Grohl, Keith Moon, and the phenomenal Sina Drums. These drummers were just off the top of my head. I'm sure there are dozens more if I think about it. Cool. Thanks Scot for another killer vid!😎

@TheProgCorner

2 жыл бұрын

Ian Paice!!! I adore his style!!!

@jeffschielka7845

2 жыл бұрын

@@TheProgCorner He actually found out about Sina Drums cover of Burn and he did a reaction video of her. Since then they have done collaborations together. Scot check out Sina's cover of Burn. You will be amazed. There is a link in the description to check out Ian's video of Sina. If you haven't checked out Sina yet please do. She is amazing. Over 1.25M subscribers and over 500M views! Sina has released 3 cds. Chi-Might 1-3. Drums on all tracks with artists she has found from all over the world. I have all 3. She used to be in a band called The Gas. I have that cd also. Sina is from Germany and has been contacted by several different artists and bands. Sina is PHENOMENAL!!!🥁😎

@TheProgCorner

2 жыл бұрын

I need to check this out!!!

@jeffschielka7845

2 жыл бұрын

@@TheProgCorner You'll love it!😎

@jeffschielka7845

2 жыл бұрын

@@TheProgCorner Let me know what you think. Thanks Scot!😎

I was surprised that Nick D'virgilo was not on the top ten. Nick Mason was missing. Man, that guy had a swing to his playing. Andy Ward from Camel was another underrated drummer.

@TheProgCorner

2 жыл бұрын

Andy Ward was my final cut. I really like Nick Mason but I couldn’t find room for him. Too many great drummers!!!

@bobbgoldstein9987

2 жыл бұрын

Nick may ne the best singer of the bunch for sure. BTW I hear he might helping out Mcstine and Minniman on the CTTE.

@TheProgCorner

2 жыл бұрын

Wish I were on board!!!

Dr. Bruford and the Professor on the drum kit. Cheers! Let's see some hands!!

@TheProgCorner

2 жыл бұрын

The two best ever!!!

Nice one! So happy to see John Hiseman in your list, often overlooked in these kind of rankings.

@TheProgCorner

2 жыл бұрын

Ridiculous how good he was….

Great list! And one that is never finished…. It always evolves and changes. Neil Peart is always number one. Bill Bruford is sublime, happy to be number two. Gavin Harrison, Danny Carey, Marco Minnemman, Mike Portnoy, Ray Hearn, Baard Kolstad, Morgan Ågren, Craig Blundell, Alan White, Ian Mosley, Carl Palmer….. I can’t put a cigarette paper between them. They are ALL world class and top of their games. It isn’t a competition, and they are all the best drummers in the world for their respective bands and projects. I’ve been playing drums for 40 years and I’m still rubbish!

@TheProgCorner

2 жыл бұрын

Ian Mosley was the very painful final cut. His style doesn’t make him an obvious choice but time and again he proves how indispensable he is to the Marillion sound. Looks like we’re on the same page overall…

Bill is my number 1 as well. I would probably have Alan White higher on the list because YES is the greatest ever but I don't know enough about the rest of them to be fair. NIce job!

@ethankeadle9745

Жыл бұрын

agree that yes is the greatest ever, for me though phil collins is favorite drummer

Being a drummer myself it's hard picking favorites 😅. But I have to show love to my boy Alan White. Rip you will be missed . Any way great list brother 💯

@TheProgCorner

Жыл бұрын

Alan was the nicest guy too...

Spot on! Weathers, bruford, Collins, Peart. My top guys listening from the mid 70’s till now. Good job.

@TheProgCorner

Жыл бұрын

Thank you so much!!!

Excellent! I have the same Top 5 than you but your No. 4 is my No. 1! 5. Gavin Harrison 4. Mike Portnoy 3. Neil Peart 2. Bill Bruford 1. Phil Collins

@TheProgCorner

2 жыл бұрын

You know, those upper tier guys are all just so good that it’s a matter of taste. You obviously hear music in a very similar way though. Same top five!!!

Glad to see Barriemore Barlow make this list. Just phenomenal!

@TheProgCorner

2 жыл бұрын

So good!!!

My top 5 1 Carl Palmer 2 Bill Bruford 3 Chester thomson 4 Rod Morgenstein 5 Andy Ward

@TheProgCorner

2 жыл бұрын

I feel bad that I didn’t even think about Morgenstein. Beast!!!! Ward was one of my final cuts…

Can't argue with your number one. I'd probably put Terry Bozzio a good bit higher - considering his work with Zappa and Mike Patton, he's about the only drummer I'd put up against Dr Bruford - but that's the fun of these lists, isn't it? Also good to see proper appreciation of Phil Collins: what with being a frontman, a singer and an actor, the brilliance of his drumming too often gets overlooked.

As much as Kansas was all about Kerry Livgren, Steve Walsh, and Robby Steinhardt...Phil Ehart was the needed ingredient to bring it together...and is the main reason the current lineup still makes the 70s songs still sound fresh( not discounting Rich Williams on guitar)...and Phil is the band manager too...nothing gets on albums without his approval...Livgren calls him " the brand keeper " I'd add: Bob Siebenberg( aka C. Benburg, the band joking around) of Supertramp: he had to play varying styles-- Rick Davies' jazz-rock/jazz-prog, Roger Hodgson's prog-pop. Versatile player

Good list and you are right about phil collins and your logic on Bruford makes sense. Bozzio should be higher... I mean Zappa write the black Page for him and he sight read it. An important ommision is Stewart Copeland, his work with Curved Air, the police especially live (he changed how hihats are played by most of these drumners) as well as his excellent prog work with Mr Oysterhead. Drummers from Queen and Pink Floyd also Missing. My top is Peart, the musicality, lyrical/conceptual contribution but my #2 is Bruford... Everyone will differ a bit, that's the spice of life.

@TheProgCorner

6 ай бұрын

Nick Mason got robbed!!!!

I would probably put Phil Ehardt higher on my list. One thing I noticed with both him AND the late great Alan White is that neither one of them plays particularly good "drum solos," but what what they do with their respective bands is/was AMAZING.

@TheProgCorner

Жыл бұрын

Agreed!!! Who needs a drum solo anyway!!!

Great list. I'd have Neil Peart at the top, but Buford great as well. And I'd have Ian Mosley on my list. So underrated. Plays what's needed with such emotional flavor. And his use of cymbals is extraordinary.

@TheProgCorner

2 жыл бұрын

Mosley is a GREAT call and I didn’t even consider him. Oops.

Hi, great video!! Lots of incredible musicians and drummers! Glad to see Hiseman, love him! And Barry Barlow (one of the most unknown influential drummers for the influenced drummers around) A few to add: Virgil Donati (always creating something beautiful for the songs) Pierre Moerlen ( classic king of 5/4 variations) Faye Fadem (amazingly versatile and unique) Thanks Scot!

@TheProgCorner

2 жыл бұрын

Pierre Moerlen is an outstanding call. Just insanely great!!!

I would like to mention Bobby Caldwell from Captain Beyond. His style on the first album is remarkable.

@TheProgCorner

Жыл бұрын

Fantastic!!! I love Captain Beyond!!!

@TheProgCorner

Жыл бұрын

That’s right. He was on that album too!!! Awesome record.

+1 for Phil Ehart, he is amazing and totally under-rated.

@TheProgCorner

2 жыл бұрын

He blew me away a couple years back last time I saw Kansas. Dude is eternal.

@jeffschielka7845

2 жыл бұрын

@@TheProgCorner Agree. Great drummer!🥁😎

@danaaronmusic

2 жыл бұрын

@@TheProgCorner He still had it last time I saw Kansas too. Always been one of my favorite drummers.

Andy McCulloch He smashed it with Greenslade!!

@TheProgCorner

2 жыл бұрын

He did. Big fan.

I could also mention Chester Thompson from Genesis.

@TheProgCorner

2 жыл бұрын

He probably should have gotten a mention!!!

@scottwalton5888

2 ай бұрын

Chester was in Weather Report before filling in for Collins with Collins on live shows.

Michael Giles is my absolute nr 1 in any list, he’s from another planet. And BJ Wilson from Procol Harum is a must in any drummers list

Upon reaching #5 I successfully guessed your top 4! Cool list Scott.

@TheProgCorner

2 жыл бұрын

Nice!!! I am an open book and thus easily read.

Great list, where i can go with. But my absolute No. 1 is Gavin Harrison. And my favourite non-prog drummers are Jeff Porcaro and Art Blakey.

@TheProgCorner

2 жыл бұрын

Porcaro!!! An absolute monster!!!

Gavin Harrison is my favorite. His sense of the dynamics and just playing melodically is just something I can only adore. Check out live recording of Hatesong from Arriving somewhere tour. Or anesthetize (especially the first third)

@TheProgCorner

6 ай бұрын

He’s a MONSTER!!!!

Have you heard any of Bozzio Levin Stevens? Tery Bozzio also played on an exellant album called Explorer's Club: Age of Impact. It was kind of like a "hard rock" version of the Alan Parsons Project, but also very "prog" in some areas.

@TheProgCorner

Жыл бұрын

I have heard that album!!! Amazing stuff!!!

@theswordofaces1222

Жыл бұрын

@@TheProgCorner There at least used to be a really cool video here on KZread where T.B. has a drum kit made up entirely of symbols!!

@TheProgCorner

Жыл бұрын

I haven’t seen that!!!!

I really liked Bill Bruford's first solo band, that I THINK was mostly active in the eighties.

Ian Mosley of MARILION.

To represent the Canterbury Scene, John Marshall for his tenure in Soft Machine, a straight ahead jazzer in a Prog outfit.

Great to see John Weathers there.....he's the monster of feel and a fellow Welshman. John Hiseman had the best sounding kit and cymbals I've ever heard. Barriemore Barlow ....folks please check out the incredible Conundrum from the Jethro Tull album ; Bursting Out , this is drumming at its best . My personal number one ? PHIL COLLINS , the guy plays like no one else - and can play in any style.

@TheProgCorner

2 жыл бұрын

Excellent comments!!! Barlow might be the most under appreciated drummer out there. I never see anyone talk about his greatness!!!

Well that was fun! Yeah, you mentioned many of the great prog drummers. I do second Ian Mosley to be on this list too. His cymbal work, his drum fills are simply sublime, from Hackett to "Fugazi" and onward. Some other notables as well: Jamie Salazar, first Flower Kings drummer, and later with The Tangent. Listen to "The Merrygoround" from Stardust We Are. whew. Colin Fraser from Pallas. "The Cross & the Crucible", and more especially on their live "The Blinding Darkness'. Piotr Kozieradzki from Riverside. Always in total command, fearless. (The Great) Paul Thompson from Roxy Music. His name in parenthesis, as dubbed by fans, speaks for itself. Really enjoy your content Scot... we share much the same taste.

@TheProgCorner

2 жыл бұрын

Jamie Salazar!!! ❤️❤️❤️👍👍👍

Agreed....throw one at ya! Stewart Copeland!

@TheProgCorner

Жыл бұрын

Absolutely. Even the great Neil Peart acknowledged his awesomeness!!! 🙏

I was able to see Bill Bruford twice with Yes,saw Gavin Harrison with PT and King Crimson with three drummers what the hell do you watch it was crazy,Just saw Kansas and yup he can still drum amazing.Of course I've seen Neal Peart several times amazing drummer,but I couldn't tell you who was best there all great

@TheProgCorner

2 жыл бұрын

It’s an impossible task!!! But I love ranking things… 👍👍👍

I was sad when Portnoy left D.T., but when I first saw the Luna Park show, I realized that it was NOT going to be a problem. Also the LAST time I got to see them, which was the next (Along for the Ride) tour, I don't remember ANY of the band having any problems with their performance.

@TheProgCorner

Жыл бұрын

And it allowed Portnoy to spend a lot more attention to Neal Morse’s music!!!!

I'd have gone with Peart but Bruford is awesome. Happy to see Collins get some love.

@TheProgCorner

2 жыл бұрын

The top guys are just super human!!!

Did you know that Bill Bruford was also the first "touring drummer" for Genesis when Peter Gabriel left and Phil Collins became the lead singer?

@TheProgCorner

Жыл бұрын

What a tour!!! Bill and Phil!!!!

Nice ranking! Bill Bruford was definitely the most inovative of the Progrock drummers! Peart and Portnoy may have better chops but pale in comparison to BB regarding inventiveness and creating odd signatures, two of the most important aspects regarding progressive music

@TheProgCorner

2 жыл бұрын

That’s how I hear it!!!

@fcamiola

2 жыл бұрын

Peart pales in comparison? I don't think so. The guy came up with unbelievable parts in a multitude of time sigs. Bruford is amazing but in no way does he trounce The Professor.

Great list. I love Dr. Bill Bruford, too. He's the best.

@TheProgCorner

2 жыл бұрын

You obviously know a thing or two…

I would put Alan White higher. Even though I'm a huge Bruford fan, White is on my four favorite Yes albums. Also, I'd put Simon Phillips in the top ten. I've found so much great music just by seeing his name in the credits and buying it without knowing anything else about the album. A couple of at least honorable mentions: Vinnie Colaiuta (Zappa) and Jeff Porcaro (Toto could be pretty proggy in its early days). Finally, while it's hard for me to pick one favorite, going by the number of times he makes me say "holy shit!", I guess I have to put Gavin at #1; he's not only highly technical but also very musical -- you don't often get both at such a high level in the same person. Oh yeah, I also have to mention Albert Bouchard, partly because no one else has. BOC was not known as a prog band, but they had their proggy moments (closing connected suite on Secret Treaties, some of Specters and FOUO), and Albert (along with Buck, of course) had a lot to do with that.

@TheProgCorner

2 жыл бұрын

Some excellent observations and perspectives!!! 👍👍👍

Being a drummer myself, my biggest inspirations were Mike Portnoy, John Bonham and Neil Peart, then when I heard Kansas Song For America and realized how much of his style matches mine, so yea, Neil is always #1, but those are some of my favorites

@redpig6878

2 жыл бұрын

Another thing I’ll add is, Tim Herb Alexander from Primus, is a really underrated drummer! You don’t really think of him as one of the “greats” of drumming but he really is if you dig deeper into it

@TheProgCorner

2 жыл бұрын

Bonham is probably the greatest of all rock drummers. There will never be another…

Great list though I miss Richard Coughlan.

Totally agree with your list, with some changes: OK, you acknowledged you can't argue with The Professor being at the very top. Bruford can live as number two. I would take Portnoy out. Sorry, no musicality of this beast. Yes, amazing technicality and a workalcoholic, but no musicality, and really harsh to see when playing live. Did twice and realized he does not contribute to music, but only his own ego. Thirdly, the largely overlooked great Andy Ward from Camel. A discrete, but with a high sense of musicality: the opposite to Portnoy. Ward deserves to be cited among the greatest. Bozzio seems too low for me. But... this is just me, and it's your list. Finally, Gavin Harrison will keep climbing on this list as time progresses. He is just amazing and will keep climbing on this list. Great video. Love your enthusiasm. A friend of mine just mentioned you could be a great wresting commentator! Thanks!

@TheProgCorner

2 жыл бұрын

Ward was my final cut!!! He is amazing!!!

YES!!!!!!!!!!! I Love this list.

I see no mention of Pip Pyle in the comments. Hatfield and the North and - my favourite Canterbury band - National Health. He’s the original octopus on speed. R.I.P.

@TheProgCorner

2 жыл бұрын

An oversight. He should have made the list!!!

I am in general agreement with your rankings, but when it comes to the top ten I would rank these guys as all first equal. A few other names I would have liked to see on the list include Virgil Donati, Chris Cutler, John Marshall, Guy Evans. Even Ringo Starr - he is held in reverence by several drummers I know, they would argue he invented prog drumming.

PORTNOY!!!👏👏👏

@TheProgCorner

2 жыл бұрын

Absolutely!!!

Better than Rolling Stone! (Oh, don't forget that Simon Phillips played for jazz pianist Hiromi)

@TheProgCorner

Жыл бұрын

His CV is so impressive!!!

CARL PALMER…..

Van De Graaf's Guy Evans is a solid top 25

@TheProgCorner

Жыл бұрын

He is such a unique player…

Carl Palmer?

@TheProgCorner

2 жыл бұрын

Absolutely. He made the list!!!

- WHY BILL BRUFORD IS THE BEST PROG DRUMMER? - BECAUSE HE PLAY IN YES, KING CRIMSON AND GENESIS - O.K. O.K. O.K.

@TheProgCorner

2 жыл бұрын

There can only be one “best.” 👍👍👍

Guitarists next!!

@TheProgCorner

2 жыл бұрын

I did guitarists last month!!! kzread.info/dash/bejne/lHaN16OIh8KTkrg.html

I’d add Tomas Haake of Meshuggah

@TheProgCorner

6 ай бұрын

So good!!! 👍👍👍

Great list, but you missed guy evans, he is easily one of the best prog drummers

@TheProgCorner

Жыл бұрын

Good call. Guy Evans should have been mentioned. His work with VDGG was incredible…

Nick Mason. Alan White a bit higher on my list .

@TheProgCorner

2 жыл бұрын

Nick Mason, huh? Did I make a mistake leaving him off the list?

@kniknayme9865

2 жыл бұрын

No mistakes in opinions, Just differences. All good drummers.

Next up .....the TOP 25 MOOG TAURUS BASS PEDAL PLAYERS :)

@TheProgCorner

2 жыл бұрын

Nice one!!!

Jan Axel Blomberg has couple of questions about this list 😂

@TheProgCorner

8 ай бұрын

🥲👍❤️

@artyomkurakin3393

8 ай бұрын

@@TheProgCorner do you know the guy, Scot?

@TheProgCorner

8 ай бұрын

Hellhammer??? I know who he is …

Billy Cobham Chad Whackerman Bill Bruford Danny Carey Cozy Powell Carl Palmer Chester Thompson Alan White Neil Peart Pierre Moerlen Phil Selway Vinnie Colaiuta Gene Hogland Chris Pennie Orri Páll Dýrason Terry Bozzio Virgil Donati Steve Shelley Once again, Billy Cobham!

@TheProgCorner

2 жыл бұрын

Billy Cobham!!! I guess he should have been on a Prog list. A pure genius. Cozy Powell. Hmmm…yeah, maybe so. Virgil Donati was a pure oversight!!! Definitely should have been there.

@FeloniusMonkInGSharp

2 жыл бұрын

@@TheProgCorner You still the man, Scot! Guitarists next?!

Phil Collins….

@TheProgCorner

2 жыл бұрын

👍👍👍

Interesting list. A little bloated, IMO. Top 25 a pretty huge undertaking. When I force myself to cut things down to 10, it changes my perception quite a bit….Wildly perplexed not to see Andy Ward (Camel), Rod Morgenstein (Dixie Dregs, The Jelly Jam), Chester Thompson (Zappa/The Mothers…) All in all, pretty fascinating. I still don’t understand what all ya’ll see in Bruford and why so many think he’s SO fantastic…….but whatever. To each their own ✌️

@TheProgCorner

2 жыл бұрын

Andy Ward was literally the last name I scratched off. Morganstein!!! Oh my!!! He probably would have made the list if I had remembered him…

@RiverCityRecs

2 жыл бұрын

Rod Morgenstein, the oft-forgotten drummer. After he joined Winger everyone turned a blind eye….. Honestly his drumming in that band was pretty forgettable……but all throughout the 70s that dude was on fire. Andy Ward was pretty much one of the best jazz-fusion/Prog drummers out of the UK ever, IMO….. Again, cool list Scot. 🤘

No Neil Peart!? Umm...

@TheProgCorner

2 жыл бұрын

(Neil is there…)

NEIL #1......Dont watch the end...

No Neil Peart, no Nick Mason and more worryingly no Martin Axelrot

@TheProgCorner

Жыл бұрын

Um. Neil was #2…