Naval games is one of my favorite themes but feels under represented in video games.

@apolakigamingandmore6376

28 күн бұрын

It's not really under represented, it's just that, people don't really like these types of games. I came from an RTS Cold War game, and it's said we only have a few playerbase.

War in the Pacific needs to be upgraded for modern hardware and screen resolutions

sadly you didn't report that uboat is going for 1.0 in the very near future. i would say less then a month from now. no official date though if you have seen their last devblogs.

@TheZoepers

24 күн бұрын

BETA test release date has been announced May 27th, 2024!

@patrickjmoynihan

2 күн бұрын

@@TheZoepersfreaking love uboat

You are right about Gary Grigsby's War in the Pacific, it is very complex and takes a lot of time investment. But it is still my favorite realistic naval war game. Thank you.

War in the Pacific Admiral's Edition is a lifestyle choice

@Antares2

23 күн бұрын

I have wanted to try that game a few times, but the price is outrageous for a game that old. I don't care that it's the most detailed strategy game of the pacific theatre ever. I am not paying 80 dollars for 15 year old game. I think a lot more people would be willing to take the plunge into that overly detailed game, if it cost around 15 dollars instead.

@bammedia3429

23 күн бұрын

@@Antares2 it goes on sale periodically.

Naval Action gamer here. Just today the developers announced they are going to wipe ALL servers and "reset" them. 8777.6 hours is a lot of time to lose.

@Pjs-ge7gk

2 күн бұрын

its what has put me off playing it, even though i bought it!

The only thing I'd add to the list are the WDS "Naval Campaigns" games. They're very authentic and extremely well researched. I can personally vouch for their Midway, Guadalcanal Naval Battles and Spanish American War (which is free). they have games that cover the First World War, Tsushima and the Battle for the Atlantic. They're definitly hex and counters, but you can choose to remove the hexes. For realism and fun they're hard to beat.

I really liked "War on the Sea" and put about 100 hours into it, but was a bit disappointed by the small scope of it. The Guadalcanal area is fine, but gets a bit boring after a while when you have your tenth battle near Savo island and such. Also the AI isn't always the best, especially if it starts losing a bit. I would love more campaign areas or a branching career of some style that lets you play the entire war (even if you don't command the entire pacific fleet of whichever nation you play). I always wanted "Ultimate Admiral: Dreadnoughts" to be the graphical version of "Rule The Waves", and it does fulfill this promise... to some extent, but the performance is quite bad and the career mode is wildly unbalanced. Once you start "snowballing", nobody can stand against you. The worst is the bugs and the fact that the framerate in the ship editor is abysmal at times. Also, at some point, you will be constantly at war with multiple nations and it can get a bit tedious. "Naval Action" was fun for a while, but I am not really a multiplayer person. Hoping "Sea Legends" that just became available for wishlisting will be the true game to scratch my age of sail itch when it is released. It looks very nice at least, so I have hope. I am done with uboat simulators. I played SH3 back in the day (and later with mods), as well as SH4 (with mods)... I feel I've done that war now. I don't need to captain yet another type VII or IX... I like submarine simulators of more modern subs, like Cold Waters, but would like more variety in scenarios, time periods and playable factions. I hope there will be a new Cold Waters-style game one day.

War on the Sea is a lot better with mods, as others have mentioned. I hope to try out War in the Pacific some day as well!

This is WAYYYY out of my wheelhouse. I want to play them, but the few I tried were very difficult for me: Naval Hurricane and Atlantic Fleet...I really enjoyed trading shells with Dreadnaughts and Heavy Cruisers, but have not been able to land a single torpedo. I was a big fan of Wooden Ships & Iron Men, so I'm looking closely at UA/Age of Sail...

@SkywalkerWroc

21 күн бұрын

IMHO it doesn't get much better than the Ultimate Admiral: Age of Sail. It's trulry a gem.

Thats a solid list or 2024! Cold Waters is great and I can see you really like this game. A lot here to enjoy!

Great list, made with great taste!

@peterhowe547

12 күн бұрын

hows the development going for TF:A???

Great list! War on the Sea has been the backbone of my channel since day one. Cold Waters and Atlantic Fleet are also tons of fun. Killerfish is on point with their naval combat games. I tried Age of Sail but couldn't really get into it. Most of the others on the list are either collecting dust on my desktop or wishlist.

War on the Sea is much better with mods, as some of the mods really expand the game a LOT. The pacific mod is so good. Good to see Rule the Waves on here too. Such a good game. War in the Pacific is a really cool game I just feel is a bit too complex for me, even though I love games like that.

putting CMO in a games list is like putting the USS Iowa in a cruiser list tbh, also honorable mention to Battlestations Pacific and Midway, both absolute gems that deserve a mention imho! good video

I looked through the chapters and would like to mention two classics that are timeless: Battlestations: Pacific and Battlestations: Atlantic

@LTGamingYoutube

5 күн бұрын

Thanks both worthy additions!

Great channel! Thank you!

@LTGamingYoutube

27 күн бұрын

Glad you enjoyed it 🚀

Who knew there were so many quality titles out there! Not me. I'll be adding Carrier Battles 4 Guadalcanal - Pacific War Naval Warfare to my games and possibly to my channel too. And yes, who wouldn't love the time to explore War in the Pacific: Admirals Edition. Thanks for these.

@LTGamingYoutube

Ай бұрын

No worries took a look at your channel! Great to see other KZreadrs in this genre doing well :)

Nice one brother! I will definitely take me a bit of Cold Waters!

Hey, I think you need to try Jane's Combat Simulations 688i Hunter/Killer. Released in 1997, it's still the most realistic submarine simulation game of all time. No 3rd person views of the sub unless you really want them. You have to sit and listen to the sonar, figure out what you're listening to, plot it's bearings over time and configure a firing solution... It's incredible and wonderful and maddening and impossible. I think the current version on Steam runs ok on modern windows, but you may have to emulate XP in order to run it.

What an eye opening selection… so much to look forward… another game ye may have missed is “Froggy and Snail - Total Armageddon” highly recommended for your Sunday evening 🐸🐌🥊😂🐸🐌❤️

@LTGamingYoutube

Ай бұрын

haha always a good one!

I also strongly recommend Silent Hunter 3 OneAlex edition for anyone looking for a decent ww2 u-boat experience.

@rexrex-ph5on

14 күн бұрын

Скажите, а про Uboat что думаете?

Firing on all cylinders with these videos! You've got to have Dangeorus Waters on this list- aging, but especially when fully modded, there's still nothing else remotely close to it in terms of realism and depth. Fleet Command is even older and has its flaws, but until Sea Power comes out, still has no competition.

@LTGamingYoutube

Ай бұрын

I know those games and did look at them for this video! Both good recommendations. Yes i'm trying to push for more info on Sea Power :)

@connycontainer9459

28 күн бұрын

Might get a worthy successor to Dangerous Waters next year with Modern Naval Warfare. Just a sub for starters but it looks incredible.

First of all, thanks again for the great video, Luke. Out of the games you listed, the ones that caught my eye the most are Uboat, War on the Sea, Atlantic Fleet, Wolfpack, and Cold Waters. I especially enjoy submarine games where you can stalk and hunt down enemy ships (I also tend to enjoy stealth games, which might explain my preference for submarines). I also added Command: Modern Operations to my list, because it seems like a deep simulation with large-scale battles. I'd also love to see a turn-based submarine game with in-depth mechanics in the future. Thanks again for this fantastic list! I'm definitely going to check out a few of those games. Cheers! 🙃

@LTGamingYoutube

Ай бұрын

This is exactly the reason why we do these! Awesome feedback and all great games for you to pick up when ready :)

@TECC73

Ай бұрын

@@LTGamingKZread Do you know turn-based submarine games with in-depth mechanics ?

@fmarionswampfox

26 күн бұрын

UBOAT is a lot of fun

I’ve had Task Force Admiral - Vol.1: American Carrier Battles on my wishlist since it came to steam. The small team that started it posted in a facebook tabletop gaming page long before then. It looks absolutely beautiful!

@LTGamingYoutube

Ай бұрын

I have access to it :)

@dudeonyoutube

Ай бұрын

?????

@charlescassels3826

28 күн бұрын

@@LTGamingKZread I’m jealous! I assume you’re under an NDA?

Glad to know I'm not the only one that likes Carrier Battles 4 Guadalcanal

Had never even heard of Naval Hurricane. WW1 games alone are as rare as hen's teeth, let alone WW1 naval games. Also, it looks sorta like Atlantic Fleet which I really enjoyed Thanks for the video! PS. They really need to bring War in the Pacific AE to Steam!

@LTGamingYoutube

4 күн бұрын

Glad you enjoyed it! And yes they really do :)

Waiting patiently for Task Force: Admiral. I Love War on the sea, and the modding community behind it is awesome

Some good recommendations, but what about Harpoon ?

World Of SeaBattle-at the current time - the most beautiful game about the sea and sailboats.

Warthunder might be something worth checking if you tought world of warships is too arcady. The damage modules are preety good

@terulien7015

23 күн бұрын

I play warthunder a lot. It's fun but the physics are horrendous. Tank shells can and do penetrative concrete, steel, trees without any deformation, change in trajectory or loss of lethality. Planes are quite literally used as flying bombs. It can get quite silly.

@foicex

22 күн бұрын

@@terulien7015 Your first point is completly wrong. There is a loss in lethality depending on the material, regarding the change of trajectory that only happens if there is a ricochet or when penetrating a tank depending on the angle. I have no idea what are you even talking about being used as flying bombs or how that would not be real when theres an enitre country famous for using them exacly as that. You either dont play as much as you claim, or have no grasp of the game at all

Can't wait for Sea Power to release

what i really want is a new Silent Hunter game

Not naval. but if you like Boat Crew, may i recommend Bomber Crew flying a Lancaster/B17 and Space Crew sci fi space ship

War on the Sea sadly dont have that many updates, but when you are using mods, its much more better game

Ardent Seas might come out this year as well

Nice list, I wish I had the time to invest in learning some of these, and I'm retired! Maybe add a comment on "degree of difficultly to learn", similar to the complexity rating on the Matrix/Slitherine store. I'm really enjoying your videos - thanks!

13:44 I love the HoI 4 reference song.

Seeing the Solomon Islands always makes me think about Black Sheep Squadron (from 1976), the TV show with Robert Conrad, nice memories! (yeah, I'm that old, lol). Great list, people should check out Carrier Battles, it's a fun game!

@LTGamingYoutube

Ай бұрын

Thanks for the kind words! That's a reference even I'm gonna have to look up 😂🚀

The Thumbnail you used is from modern warships, another game that i recommend you to try and include in the top

I should add, I tried Atlantic Fleet because I had heard so many good things about it. The combat engine is strong, but I found it to be disappointingly easy. Not once did I ever lose a campaign- the AI really struggles to hunt or deter submarines.

@LTGamingYoutube

Ай бұрын

Yeah what drops it down the list slightly for me. If they finished War on the Sea that could be great!

@dudeonyoutube

Ай бұрын

Don't you love the non moving ships?

a big thing with war on the sea is the growing mod community for it. It has a few campaigns and rebalance mods if youre looking for a little more content than whats in the base game.

@jotabe1984

11 күн бұрын

yea base game at the end its a little bit repetitive

both Cold Waters and War on the Sea are from the same developer... Both games prepresent a good base game, but they shine with mods. Cold Waters has (in my opinion) a great add-on with Epic mod... you get to play USSR/Russia and China SSK, SSN, SSG, SSGN, SSB, SSBN... so the playability bame huge. Too bad campaign will throw incredibly unfair missions based on random, but nevertheless its quite challenging and will provide a lot of fun hours of gameplay. As for War on the Sea, the base game trapped me in something like 1000 horus of gameplay since open beta, but nowadays the game became too repetitive for me, there are a couple of mods (The Tokyo Express, ABDACOM defense, Centrifugal offensive, and the soon-to-be-released indian ocean campaign) but never really tried none

war in the pacific is masterpeace.

I highly recommend carrier commander 2. It's everything you could possibly want from a multiplayer ship management and coordination game.

@LTGamingYoutube

Ай бұрын

I will be checking that out now!

@theworkshopwhisperer.5902

Ай бұрын

@@LTGamingKZread It's a difficult game to describe. Getting full full run of a highly advanced aircraft carrier. I think it's something like 1 to 16 player co-op. Dynamically generated missions tons of aircrafts and amphibious ground vehicles with fully customisable loadouts.

@ObiKKa

Ай бұрын

I think you meant Carrier Command 2. There's no Commander in the series title.

@theworkshopwhisperer.5902

Ай бұрын

@@ObiKKa My mistake a small typo.

Battlestations pacific is still my favorite

Ultimate admiral is getting multiplayer beta now. And is really good on steam deck

@LTGamingYoutube

26 күн бұрын

I will revisit!

@jiriskracek1439

26 күн бұрын

Unfortunately it is already full and still very basic more like Alfa

Hope sea power will be released soon.

Naval art is basically battleship craft from ios with better graphics and a map. Weapon variety is amazing but for aircraft there is bugger all. Hoping they add more soon.

What about Sea Power ? Should be coming this year as well.

I always wanted a new Jane's fleet command.

Modern Warships u must play!

You mentioned world ow warships but not war thunder? Naval battles are fun in that and you can play arcade or more realistic

Destroyer: U-Boat Hunter is really hard but the tactical displays are a bit clunky

Give me Boat Crew, but let us use capital ships. I wanna play a game like WOWS but in a PVE/Coop setting like Boat Crew and I wanna sail Battleships, Cruisers, etc. War on the Sea, etc, those games are cool, but they put you in command of a whole ass Navy, I just wanna be 1 ship in that Navy maybe....but not tryna play a whole pacific war.

For me, two very large simulations are missing, the Silent Hunter licenses (especially 3) and Dangerous Waters.

@LTGamingYoutube

11 күн бұрын

They run poorly on modern systems which is why they were excluded. But you have a point!

@ms-lazuli7435

11 күн бұрын

@@LTGamingKZread I make them both work under W10 without difficulty, although for DW it is true that sometimes it is not always installed easily, but sometimes it works very well... For me it's perfect.

@LTGamingYoutube

11 күн бұрын

@@ms-lazuli7435 I will pick up a copy and check it out :)

I already play ¼ of the list

Where my Battlestations Midway gang at? I need another game like such

you missed the most real stuff Dangerous Waters, 688 Hunter :)

Try Atlantic fleet 2 is on early access

@LTGamingYoutube

Ай бұрын

Where?

Re Atlantic Fleet. The stationary ship are very anoying. Why would warships just stop in the middle of the ocean?

@LTGamingYoutube

Ай бұрын

It's turn based.

@dudeonyoutube

Ай бұрын

They should still appear to be moving.

Silent hunter 5 wolves of steel????

still waiting for Sea Power :(

PS2 Naval ops commander, naval ops gunner ps2 XBOX 360 NAVAL ASSUT KILLING TIDE WISH SOMEOEN WOULD SHOE THE CONSOLE COMMUNITY LOVE LOL

No Task Force Admiral???

@LTGamingYoutube

Ай бұрын

The game is not released 🤷‍♂️

@dudeonyoutube

Ай бұрын

I know but hopefully it will drop over the summer.

Missing World of Warships and WarThunder naval mode from the list.

@brainyskeletonofdoom7824

20 күн бұрын

For a good reason, I'd say

@Meister183

20 күн бұрын

World of warships is a joke of a game, completely arcade and buying about it is realistic at all

@skorpion7132

14 күн бұрын

@@Meister183 It IS a naval war game. There was no mention of what rules the list was compiled by so excluding something based on "arcadey" is just dumb. Wether or not you like the game is immaterial to that.

World of warships is prob the most important naval war game and legends on console isn't anything like the pc version

@LTGamingYoutube

10 күн бұрын

It's not really a 'Wargame' in the serious sense. More of an arcade title really.

@scorpionruf

10 күн бұрын

@@LTGamingKZread I was honestly dreading sea of thieves getting a mention 🤣

@LTGamingYoutube

10 күн бұрын

@@scorpionruf hahaha :P

World of warships?

Sadly Wolfpack is dying. The devs don't care too much about the community and their last patch 6 months ago broke the game to a level that it is unplayable. The base conception is good but it needs a competent dev team.

This list is alittle funny, alot of these games are old and no longer supported.

@LTGamingYoutube

26 күн бұрын

Which ones exactly? Games can be finished you know. 'Support' doesn't go on forever. And old games can still be the best. So I'd say the comment is a little funny 😉

You played a game on a kids toy, the full game is not even available on console. Long live wow :)

Lol, click baited us with that thumbnail.

@LTGamingYoutube

19 күн бұрын

Don't get why!

You forgot War Thunder!

@LTGamingYoutube

20 күн бұрын

Bahahaha

I accept the effort and the fact that Naval Hurricane is a solo dev... but it just looks awful. I know gameplay is more important than graphics, but damn...

World of Warships started out promising- I played the beta and for some time after launch, but it has slowly became the usual dumpster fire you would expect from Wargaming. Best avoided and kept off the list.

Sorry but Modern Warships is the best and I don’t know why It doesn’t appear on the list.

@LTGamingYoutube

6 күн бұрын

A mobile game?

@Viva_12

6 күн бұрын

@@LTGamingKZread also PC xd

@LTGamingYoutube

6 күн бұрын

@@Viva_12 interesting though not sure it make top 16 😇

@Viva_12

6 күн бұрын

@@LTGamingKZread 🤣🤣🤣

WHY THESE GAMES ON CONSOLE EVERYBODY DONT PC. PC IS COOL BUT REALLY

@LTGamingYoutube

9 күн бұрын

Honestly id say that PC is where games are at ;)

@joehendrson3815

8 күн бұрын

Yea things has changed since back in the day iron storm for sega Saturn games like Front mission which has been getting remade I think for console stagey game is still untouched market or lightly touch market at best

I would take naval action out of this list unfortunately.... the devil shoot themselves in the foot regularly and have overall destroyed the game

If WoWs is on this list I'm unsubscribing....

@LTGamingYoutube

Ай бұрын

I mentioned it but didn't include it on the List ;)

@MarvinWestmaas

Ай бұрын

Heck yes it's not, and thank you for stating it's an arcade title which has nothing to do with actual naval warfare, nothing at all. Lost years of my live playing that, closed testing to 'release' and time as supertester hoping the game wouldn't go down the route of WeGreedy's commerce department...in the starting period the devs were actually involved with community, we actually could talk and they made so many promises... 2 or max 3 babyboats per game is optimal... no we won't add bigger guns as Yamato ( and in doing so, we won't make overmatch such a factor as it is now ), no we know submarines don't belong in combined naval WWII operations ( because realistic WWII submarines are ... dog slow when submerged maybe? don't have magical homing torpedoes and the short time the Germans actually had an effective torpedo in the Atlantic it took the allies months to come with the towed decoy... but hey can't put historical stuff in WoWs. let's make it a magical button... like how we give new ships something 'extra' like a 'magical button' giving it a faster reload based on something the enemy can't track... )... Don't touch WeGreedy games expecting a> dev's to keep their word b> a game where 'got to sell more pixels and have an economy based on FOMO marketing is a better description as one where they actually listen to their community.

@LTGamingYoutube

Ай бұрын

Thanks for the insight! I only played it briefly on Xbox and recognised it for what it was.

@MarvinWestmaas

Ай бұрын

@@LTGamingKZread Don't mind my rant, enough people enjoy the game still and who am I to say they shouldn't. But I will never get that involved in a game during development when I don't actually know the direction it will eventually take.

@LTGamingYoutube

Ай бұрын

@@MarvinWestmaas all good. In my experience....people often come onto our lists and suggest War Thunder, World of Warships etc and to me they just arnt what I'd class as a Wargame. And trust me im quite flexible with the definition as the Hex Wargamers tell me 😂

i really would not have put the dead game that is Navel Action on here. at heart yeah he deserves a slot, but the devs have killed the playerbase, continue to stay out of touch with the player base, sell ships like they are Gaijin selling premium ships and make dumb changed that have made hubdreds of players quit the game in droves along with over time. there really is no point in bothering with Navel Action PVP, PVE or seasonal modes. PVP you get ganked by the long term players that have nothing else to do. PVE is basically dead with less than 200 players down to just 12. i was one of those 12 on a saturday night a few weeks ago. it was quite sad and discouraging seeing how empty PVE and the sad state PVP is in. Seasonal, nobody plays that garbage.

I wish they would do a French campaign for Ultimate Admirals Age of Sail...

If you're going to make a list of "top xx naval wargames" but then exclude one of the flagship gmes as "arcade" then you should've include the rules along which the list was chosen because now this just come acros a stupid meandering.

@LTGamingYoutube

14 күн бұрын

Because its not considered a wargame and you should try write sentences that make sense. It makes you come across stupid and we wouldn't want that 😉

world of warships is not on list its far better than most of games on list

@LTGamingYoutube

27 күн бұрын

Yeah don't be silly!

@Dumbledore-tr4xv

25 күн бұрын

@@LTGamingKZread seems only silly here is you. check your video title naval games?

@Meister183

20 күн бұрын

World of warships is a game that has no realistic quality to it. Everything about it is just lame

@Dumbledore-tr4xv

20 күн бұрын

@@Meister183 LOL seems you didnt play it

@braize6279

18 күн бұрын

Lol World of Warships is pay to win trash. I was actually fearful that game was going to make this list, and I'm glad that it was excluded. If you like your standard toxic Wargaming pay to win sewage, then sure, World of Warships is great. But if you value your sanity, and value your wallet, or just value actual gaming in general, you won't touch any Wargaming product. Edit- Just read your "seems you didn't play it" comment, so here's my source. I played when the game was actually fun (aside from OP carriers like always) when it was just US and Japan ships. Then Wargaming realized they can sell overpriced and overpowered ships on the market. I also was on the starting team that won the first clan battle, and am unicum or super unicum in every ship class aside from CVs (which I don't play). This includes over 8k battles with a 63% win rate. WoW is arcady pay to win trash and I don't miss that toxic game or it's community one bit.

Silent hunter III + Mega Mods - Grey Wolves - Oanalex Edition