Tom seemed to think Mike and Roy were wrong more than Zee lol!

It’s Zee’s curse. Being so perfect, he has to pretend to dislike stuff; so others can hound him about it.

@revimfadli4666

2 жыл бұрын

You're telling me he actually likes IRL modern jobs as themes?

The fact that Tom, Roy & Mike were not a united front in hating Zee is proof of how cool Mr. Zee "No Fun" Garcia really is.

@nothing3376

2 жыл бұрын

Cool second account Zee

@shadowcouncil9570

2 жыл бұрын

That's Mr. Zeevil to you sir!

@hucz

2 жыл бұрын

thanks for the spoilers 🙄

@nothing3376

2 жыл бұрын

@@hucz lmao pls be a joke

That intro was great!🤣

@john-qz3fu

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah it was hilarious

20:50 "I'm making notes for a future video" xD

Objectively the best intro Dice Tower has ever done. Good job, lads!

@5ammy13

2 жыл бұрын

Amen brother. Amen...

@RadishTheFool

2 жыл бұрын

It was amazing.

@NATOnova

2 жыл бұрын

lol absolutely. what's the name of the song used for this intro?

@DTChrisYi

2 жыл бұрын

@@NATOnova heh heh, it was a song my family recorded a few years back. We have a tradition of making gag songs, and my brother andI are both metal heads, so: kzread.info/dash/bejne/dIaCwcp7nbvJkbQ.html

@jonathansteele1801

2 жыл бұрын

I thought the same!

This format is genius. Was smiling all the way through it. So entertaining.

Zee is the voice of the people!

At 21:40 Roy mentions his favorite genre of games and Tom says "attacky games" which is hilarious, but the first time I heard it as "tacky games" which made me laugh so hard!

That was fun 😂, looking forward to the reaction from Zeevil!

That intro was incredible. That had Chris Yi’s fingerprints all over it.

"Top 10 moons!" so funny : )

Zee’s opinions are easily the most valuable to me when watching a DT review before buying a game, he’s great!

@GamerLisa

2 жыл бұрын

Same here more than this 3

@luiscordoba3247

2 жыл бұрын

No doubt about it

@Richard-sy1ej

2 жыл бұрын

I agree. If Zee absolutely loves a game, I know that there's a 99% chance it's not for me.

@ziomalZparafii

2 жыл бұрын

Yup, always happy to see Zee's review. Very precise and in-depth.

@Manny-M

2 жыл бұрын

Whether I agree or not, his approach is the best in the biz.

I’m just so happy Tom kept saying blue moon city instead of blue moon. Love blue moon and that made my day

I love Mike, he brings so much life to the group

I do not agree with the idea of dropping a game from 10 to 6 just because other similar game came out.

@KissellMissile

2 жыл бұрын

I think a fair comparison is the original Spiderman Trilogy. I thought they were great when they first came out, but now I consider them okay, because I have seen how much more you can do with the genre. Sometimes novelty can over inflate an evaluation, so it is not lowering as much as equalizing.

@Patronux

2 жыл бұрын

yep, that's nonsensical. If you enjoy a game, and then a 2nd Revised Edition comes out with changes in the rules, does that invalidate the enjoyment you have with the previous edition? In any case, both games should have been a 10. Maybe give Agricola a 9.5 just so you can say "I like Caverna better", but dropping to a 6? come on.

Any guesses on how many times Zee will say “RUUUDE!” in his reaction video?

@bornofashes

2 жыл бұрын

12 times, 6 of them in the last 30 sec.

@BC_VORTEX_CHANNEL

2 жыл бұрын

I am going with 50 times.

I like the concept of the top 10, very fun to watch and the discrepancy makes it hilarious

I love the banter you guys on dice tower have over the board games :)

So much better than a roast. Love it!

This was so much fun!

Very surprised about what Roy said about the randomness of Xia, because it is what we say about Ghost Stories. Mitigate the randomness. We win between 6 or 7 games out of 10. This is a very fun video. Thank you all! Such a joy to listen to you. 😀

Should be called "Top 10 Zee is not wrong and Tom take his defense"

this series is just the best

This video always cracks me up! Loved that Mike, Roy, and Tom could not agree on most things about how Zee was wrong. Hilarious!🤣

waaahahaha... this is fun! darn I miss Sam. He would've been great for this one!

@codym6376

2 жыл бұрын

Yes, would have loved and still hope for a Sam is wrong video!

Mike was savage against Zeevil! Tom makes a great point about Zee only liking horror theme dungeon crawlers, that way always confusing to me too.

The intro is so good, I didn’t expect laughing straight from the beginning.

I actually am thankful to Zee for mentioning Menara in quite a lot of lists that I ended up bying it and never regreted it. Unlike other dexterity games logical and planning part is as important in it as actual dexterity, or even more. Such a unique game. Such an underrated game or better say overlooked

@freierfieserfriese

2 жыл бұрын

Menara is a great game. I completely agree.

Just one more reason (like we really needed any more!) why this is my favorite crew in all of gaming coverage. Tom gets into such a funny character mode during Roy’s #8, it completely reminds me of myself. I just feel a true affinity with these characters, and I can’t wait to finally meet you all in person one day. Looking forward to Zee’s response video! 🤣

@MartyKane217

2 жыл бұрын

Yes! I loved Tom's "bizarro preacher" character

Best intro of all time😂

Thumbs up for the rockin’ hilarious intro!

Tom, I’ve tolerated a lot of your hats, but this one has gotta go brother 😂

@RadishTheFool

2 жыл бұрын

I wonder if he got it from a Dutch fan. It's that typical shade of orange. Getting it as a gift would explain why he kept it.

@Michigan1985

2 жыл бұрын

What do you have against wearing the bottom half of a traffic cone on your head?

Spirit Island should be on this list!! :)

Hilarious video! Zee is like Data and Lor's creator from TNG, Often-Wrong-Soong! Either way, I love Zee, I love the channel, and this video is even better and funnier than usual. Thanks for the great content.

I feel like this was Roy's Top 10 Epic Space games.

I have to disagree with Mike about Deep Sea Adventure. I don't love or hate it, it's just sort of there, but Zee does not rate it lowly "for some reason". He has very specific reasons for hating it. That's true of Zee more than any of them. He can usually opine at length about why he likes or dislikes a game. He rarely just shrugs and says he hates something or falls back on "I don't know, it was just fun" if he likes it or hates it, He tells you WHY.

@JonReid01

2 жыл бұрын

Hear hear

@DarthEd77

2 жыл бұрын

I agree with most of what you wrote. Zee is excellent at articulating the reasons for why he likes or dislikes a game. That said, I don't think he's done that with Deep Sea Adventure. The only "reason" I recall that Zee has given for why he dislikes Deep Sea Adventure was when he complained that he scored zero once when he played it.

@PamWD

2 жыл бұрын

Oh, my husband and I can't stand Deep Sea Adventure.

@LegoAssassin098

2 жыл бұрын

@@DarthEd77 He mentioned on a top 10 that the cadence is messed up. Everyone drowns round 1, 1 person gets like 2 points next round and everyone else drowns, and then everyone drowns round 3 trying to outdo that guy. That 2 point guy wins. He says that it happens everytime, even when actively trying to avoid that and as such it's unfun. EDIT: It's top 10 turkeys from 3 years ago, Zee's number 5 (37:20) kzread.info/dash/bejne/ZH5hyLeQY7DJZ6TY.html=37m20s

@DarthEd77

2 жыл бұрын

@@LegoAssassin098 Yeah, well, Zee is wrong about that. I've played plenty of games of Deep Sea Adventure, and that is not how even most of the games I've played have turned out. Some? Sure. But not all. And when it does, it's still great fun, IMHO. EDIT: Thanks for the link to his specific comments.

Tyrants of the Underdark! Fantastic deckbuilder

Zee just quietly sit back and watched these guys fighting each other lol.

Tom clearly the only way you can redeem your reputation is to play Spirit Island live and be incredibly enthusiastic about it the entire time.

Me after seeing Tom is Wrong: "Wow. Tom is wrong about a lot of the things they said." Me after seeing Zee is Wrong: "Its 3 guys complaining that Zee doesn't like a bunch of bad games."

Giving Arcadia Quest a 5 is madness!!! It's easily my favourite game of all time, pure fun in a box.

20:14 Tom’s reaction when Mike talks about Modern Art! 😀

It is far past time someone took this cruel tyrant down a notch!!

Zee is easily my favorite reviewer on the channel but this has to be my all time favorite DiceTower video.

Menara is amazing! It’s not silly!

Hilarious intro and great video. So great how you can all joke and take a joke for entertainment value! So funny that a few of his low ratings might have been caused by "bad plays" with particular people that might have triggered a little contrarianism.

Hey I’m from Finland and I love Zee.

This was a fun list.

There should have been a link to the Tom is wrong video. Now i have to toil in the minefields and find it myself. (I'll add this note before finishing the video because it won't come up - Zee screwed up the Hostage Negotiator review. He missed the basic strategy of it, then said it sucked because it was just random.)

I knew Pulsar was going to be on this list the second I saw the title, lol.

First time I saw “exploding dice” was in Chaos in the Old World.

When Fabled Fruit came out, everyone was like, "This game was made for Zee," and Zee was, "Nah." I love Fabled Fruit. Zee is wrong.

Zee likes Under Falling Skies though, that's a CGE game.

That opening 10/10.

Roy: Do things to mitigate randomness! Also Roy: Ghost Stories is too lucky and impossible to beat.

@joshjenson8111

Жыл бұрын

He's not wrong, ghost stories is terrible

@jherrenor

Жыл бұрын

@@joshjenson8111 It's only terrible if you don't like to plan or if you rely on lucky rolls. A lot can be done to mitigate the randomness if you play it correctly instead of hoping for the best every turn.

@MythicosQc74

Жыл бұрын

@@joshjenson8111 He and you are wrong, Ghost Stories is a great game.

@robo3007

Ай бұрын

The randomness in the games Roy picked is fair. The randomness in Ghost Stories is not.

Considering how much crossover there was for 30 picks, Zee must be pretty right on most stuff.

“My number 8 is a classic, and you can’t hate classics, unless they’re classics I hate, in which case it’s okay.” Damn what a hilariously under rated line lol

How about a Catchupoolza for Duel of Ages II? Roy and Mike haven't played it. I bet Chris hasn't either. It would also be interesting to hear Tom's thoughts on it in 2021.

I think a Tom is Wrong list would be quite a fun sequel.

Tom's wrong about Caverna changing Agricola so much. I can see a small change because something new exists but a drastic change? Nothing changed about Agricola just because Caverna came out.

@tomasxfranco

2 жыл бұрын

Dropping it to a 9 and putting caverna as a 10 to show the relationship would make sense, but making it a 3 or 6 is too low, IMO.

@Puddleford

2 жыл бұрын

@@tomasxfranco exactly

@juleswo2987

2 жыл бұрын

I always feel like the only person who thinks Caverna is just Agricola with extreme unnecessary bloat…

Zee is fantastic. But I also like how close of friends these guys are that they can make fun of each other like this.

haha loved that intro

Blue Moon City is one of the best area majority games, ever.

I can’t wait for Zee’s reaction to this.

I love Underwater Cities but man I'm with Zee, Pulsar 2849 is some hot (dry) garbage. Tigris & Euphrates on the other hand is an objective masterpiece that deserves a place in everyone's collection.

"His heart is two sizes too small, as is his, uh, yes... next..." 😆

47:56 - Tom, you may have a point. I just saw Zee review a game called “Let’s Summon an Demon” and rated it an 8 out of 10! You should have waited just a couple of days to do this list!

@LookAtTheBacon

2 жыл бұрын

Check out his review of Demon Worker lol. He's all about that stuff...😅

Cool shirt Roy

What an intro!

This list reminded me of how right Zee is about things 😂

these videos are hilarious

Zee is never wrong 😂

This was a really fun concept for a top 10, I hope they do other reviewers. Though I will say I agree with Zee on most of these rankings, should this have been "Zee is right!"?

@TheOldMan-75

2 жыл бұрын

I don't have the same taste in games as Zee so I dislike most games he likes but I always know where he's coming from and understand his reasoning. He's a very good reviewer who just doesn't share my taste.

Zee should film his reaction while watching this

@middleclassboardgamer

2 жыл бұрын

Oh, there will be a reaction video. Tom’s reaction to the “Tom is Wrong” video is great, but Zee’s reaction to Tom’s reaction is EPIC!

100% agree on Tales. I WANT to love this game. Evwryone else does. But every time it gets to the table I hsve to start literally drinking to have any fun. Need to get it out of my collection asap and free up some room for something better.

‘’There is a few deck builders’’ -Tom

He is wrong in his argument that analyst paralysis, which I like to call STALLING, isn't a problem.

Starting to think a Mike is wrong video would be too easy. Might have better luck doing a Mike is right video.

Taste in Tudor era architectural trends? UNSURE. LOLOLOL. Fantastic.

We need to get Roy looking at the camera more.

I agree with Zee on a lot of things, such as Onirim being one of my favorite games of all time. However, I HIGHLY disagree with his general disdain towards deckbuilders!! So glad Tom focused on this point. Why is deckbuilding schlocky and overdone and lazy, but worker placement isn't??? Makes no sense!!! Still love ya Zee! ^_^

Zee pities the fool who forgot to add gold chains to the modified picture.

I don’t know who was the first to use exploding dice, but Chaos in the Old World did 5 years before Arcadia Quest.

@robo3007

Ай бұрын

Eric Lang still designed that one though. He just refined it with Arcadia Quest!

So...I assume based on his statements that Roy was aware that "Zee-Vil" was just about to uplaod his review of a game called "Let's Summon Demons," right? Cause if not...I think we might be on to something 🤔. Holy cow, guys! I was joking, but then I watched the Let's Summon Demons review and it's literally a game about collecting and sacrificing children and small animals to conjure demons. Zee gave it an 8, and said he really liked the theme. ... I think we may need an intervention.

I think there was a mistake: this "Zee Really was Right" video got mislabeled. I enjoyed it nonetheless - thank you!

I like Onirim, but I do agree on the artwork. It's not bad, but I'd like a graphic spinoff.

Exploding dice is from Savage Worlds / Deadlands. At least that's the first I know of.

Dying to see Zee's reaction to this vid. [BRB, I'm going to get some popcorn]

Vlaada Chvátil is my favorite board game designer, hands down.

Terror in Meeple City isn't a great game.... but it's ridiculously fun. I think it's probably a 5 as a game, but a 9 for how much fun it is.

Zee doesn’t like the fun! 😂

Mike is right about Modern Art - at least righter than the others. That game is easily a. 9/10!

Zee is my favorite member of the team!

When you go out to prove Zee is wrong and only prove that everyone else is more wrong….

Agricola is a great game and holds up well. Caverna doesn't replace it. You have to have some kind of selection process or draft beforehand. Also dont play with 5 players

Did Tom say that Zee was "Intrigual"? Meaning adds intrigue? I agree.

Pretty sure the digital port of Eclipse has been unavailable for years now?

I wanted to try Onirim after watching Zee’s video, so I got the app version. It’s ok, but I have yet to win.

Mike and Roy are too nice for a list like this. You needed to bring Sam as an invited guest.