God Voyager really knew how to produce some unbearably bland episodes. At least you can laugh at Threshold, but even just hearing stuff like Fairhaven or 11.59 described in a video makes you cringe.

@Starvino

6 жыл бұрын

Spacedock unforgettable was the most boring for me. That’s how I remember it.

@lukeirot

6 жыл бұрын

Ya and next generation knew how to pretend to be deep and talk around up its own ass for an hour.

@hatednyc

6 жыл бұрын

Spacedock >=/

@hatednyc

6 жыл бұрын

ha I think your Screen Name says it all. Hahahaha! Thank you for that...!

@kenetickups6146

6 жыл бұрын

ha really now? any proof of this?

The worst episode for me, was probably the Chakotay boxing one. Mainly because i'm not a fan of boxing at all, plus seemed very out of character for Chakotay to suddenly enjoy boxing. His interest in that sport was never mentioned before, or again in the whole series. He was always more about vision quests and spiritual stuff than that.

@swishfish8858

6 жыл бұрын

I just fucking hated Chakotay. Everyone says Neelix is the worst character, I highly disagree. At least Neelix tried to be interesting. Also, to tell the truth, I actually like Neelix. I never found him annoying, just really friendly.

@wildefyri

6 жыл бұрын

Because chakotay has always been into.. *rolls dice× Boxing!

@onlineamiga

6 жыл бұрын

I dont remember his hobby for boxing coming up before or after this episode.

@Nathan_H1gg3rz

6 жыл бұрын

the whole series is painful to watch honestly.

@gcisbani

6 жыл бұрын

That's the problem with episodic story telling. The lack of strong storyline makes little sense.

The episode with Amelia Earhart and the guy from Police Academy deserves an honorable mention imo.

@andreaabejuela8089

3 жыл бұрын

You mean The 37s ?

@andreaabejuela8089

3 жыл бұрын

Did anyone like Ex Post Facto the one where Tom is acused of murder and has to relive the victims memory

@sabercrosby8128

3 жыл бұрын

@@andreaabejuela8089 I didn't like it at the time but it's not that bad. Defo not the worst of season 1. Yourself?

@sabercrosby8128

3 жыл бұрын

On paper the 37s sounded amazing but it was big let down. But that was kinda the theme with voyager, they had all the good stories and scripts but didn't do much with it

@whiteflowercrownmusic7124

3 жыл бұрын

I liked that one!

Threshold is so amazingly bad that every Star Trek fan owes it to themselves watch at least once.

@tinywarfare9109

7 ай бұрын

My goodness, I forgot I left this comment. Well allow me to follow up, since I recently re-watched Threshold. Yes, it's terrible. But I found myself enjoying it anyways, kind of in a Spock's Brain kind of way. And I don't know if I would call it THE worst. Anyway, my comment still stands, you really need to watch this episode if you haven't.

TUVIX! In this episode Janeway literally murders a crewmate and it is somehow never brought up again!

@EnvisionerWill

4 жыл бұрын

The concept behind the episode is incredibly stupid, but I can't call it one of the very worst episodes, because the actor playing Tuvix himself does put in an extremely good performance. If he'd just been a random new alien instead of a fusion of two existing characters who then has to be separated in order to restore the status quo, this episode would have been fine.

I'll say this for Threshold: it's very memorable. I watched the series as a kid and it is one of the few episodes that stuck with me because of how weird it was.

@mmjahink

2 жыл бұрын

It's also an award winning episode!

The Belana episode was infuriating. No doctor nor leader would have given in to such extreme risks to reconcile a dream. As for Threshold, they act like nothing happened in the end. Those are traumatizing events! No coping nor ptsd?!

Any of the Kazon episodes makes my list of worst episodes.

@JarvisBrodie

6 жыл бұрын

I agree with you there. I mean, 98% of Season Two was dominated with Kazon episodes. That's why I barely got into that season.

@pferreira1983

6 жыл бұрын

They had good episodes. I totally see what the writers were trying to do with them.

@MarcelNL

6 жыл бұрын

Yeah they also absolutely didn't interest me at all.

@swishfish8858

6 жыл бұрын

I'd love to have been there for the brainstorming session on the Kazon. "I know, let's make Klingons!" "But we already have Klingons!" "...I know, let's make Klingons!" "BRILLIANT!!"

@MarcelNL

6 жыл бұрын

"....and then later add some real Klingons again"

Almost any episode focusing on Chakotay could reasonably be included.

I really disliked 'Fury'. If they wanted to bring Kes back for an episode, did they have to make it so bleak? She was always kind and compassionate and they bring her back as a completely bitter old nut. That was so disappointing. Why couldn't she have joined forces with Voyager to fight a common enemy, and then they both happily go their separate ways afterwards?

Threshold is The Room of Star Trek episodes. So perplexing it’s a classic.

Threshold was weird, but it was one of the only times that Star Trek went into full on Cosmic Horror mode, so I'll give it points for that.

@champ1114

2 жыл бұрын

comedic horror

@ElectricIguana

2 жыл бұрын

I thought it was cool that Janeway raped Paris and abandoned her babies on a derelict planet.

STAR TREK: VOYAGER episode DRIVE was the FAST and the FURIOUS before the FAST and the FURIOUS movies were created and it was in space

The Naomi Wildman episode was either the first or second time I found Neelix enjoyable in the series. Can’t remember whether or not the episode in which he literally died came first. I find the episodes where he’s the comedic character insufferable but when he’s trying to be a caretaker for Naomi and later the Borg children it gives him more of a sense of purpose to the plot beyond being possessive of Kes or annoying to Tuvok. The episode where he dies too is good because it actually has dramatic tension

@foxmulder4041

Жыл бұрын

The episode where he died and was revived was first.

Is it just me or does Star Trek really hate the Irish?

@grimmfandango832

6 жыл бұрын

Preston Schock Yep, that TNG episode plus the 2 VOY episodes pretty much confirm it. Then there's O'brien......

@jameshay7247

6 жыл бұрын

I doubt Gene Roddenberry did- he was a charming Irish-American. Maybe some latent envy of Roddenberry, they could express after he was gone?

@mrobbmr

6 жыл бұрын

O'Brien must suffer...

@beanbean78

6 жыл бұрын

Preston Schock Roddenberry was a dick

@robertdullnig3625

6 жыл бұрын

Don't forget O'Riley in The Naked Time. awful.

Fury has no sense with the story, for me is the worst.

@sabercrosby8128

3 жыл бұрын

Same with Virtuoso. The Docs actions contradicted his character development. Lazy writing

ONCE UPON A TIME the tree creature looked like a different version of GROOT

I liked Once Upon a Time tbh. The line about Captain Janeway jumping to warp after one more cup of coffee was pretty funny. True that Trevis & Flotter were annoying af, but I liked how they snuck in Wildman & her baby, Naomi. Sort of like how TNG slipped Keiko O'brien in where she didn't need to be. I always like seeing extra characters explored here & there.

@HappyBeezerStudios

5 жыл бұрын

Star Trek has a great cast of good supporting cast. Characters that work best at the sides. Garak is a good example. He is best when trying to convince that he is just a tailor. His banter with Bashier, or the little feuds with Quark. The hostility towards Dukat. But an entire series about him would be too much to fill. Shran is similar in Enterprise, best when he shows up occasionally, but great. Same goes for Naomi. And by the topic of side characters, I would've loved if Voyager had explored that a bit more. After all there is nobody else around in the delta quadrant, and even TNG hat the awesome episode "Lower Decks" that explored the setting from a different view. Voyager could've done so much more with the conflict between the Starfleet and Marquis crew. Or maybe an episode that shows how the life of the average crewman would look like. Maybe in a setting that is not overly thretening, just to show how Janeway and Chakotay manage to keep the crew together when they are not opposed to the somthing like the Borg.

@fanofeverything30465

2 жыл бұрын

One of my biggest pet peeves with TV programmes is when characters are needlessly shoehorned into episodes just for fanservice I respect your opinion though 👏🏾

I've just watched Threshold today. Even going in with low expectations, it was shocking how bad it is. I was expecting them to pull a 'it's all a holodeck story' ending, but alas, it wasn't :(

How dare you put Drive on this list. Drive for me was one of the fun episodes.

@Firthy2002

6 жыл бұрын

Stargate SG-1 did it better.

@andrebrynkus2055

5 жыл бұрын

Direct to dvd CGI movies for kids did it better... And even then they're just ripping off Speed Racer.

I'd take any of these over Discovery or Picard.

Liked Fair Haven. I'm Irish and it captured rural Ireland. Barge Of The Dead was excellent!

@GGGritzer

6 жыл бұрын

True. But the welcome, friendliness of rural Ireland was accurate. Yet people are obsessed with visiting Dublin? Puzzling.

@GGGritzer

6 жыл бұрын

That's just you. We don't want toxic people here anyway.

@GGGritzer

6 жыл бұрын

Well, thankfully that's just you. We have no such criminality here.

@GGGritzer

6 жыл бұрын

Different generation. Completely.

@GGGritzer

6 жыл бұрын

You're pathetic. You saying we should condemn every German for the atrocities of Hitler? You have some serious growing up to do.

Threshold has to be positively the very worst episode of Voyager ever. I rather like to forget the episode actually exists. (Like I do with the entirety of STD)

@shooterdownunder

6 жыл бұрын

Jeff Ledger it's actually so bad that it's considered among the worst Star Trek episodes ever made, right up there with Spock's brain

@RegBeta

5 жыл бұрын

I would consider Star Trek Discovery to be actually Canon ( even deep down it's not IMO), then to watch "Thershold" ever again or even acknowledge it's existence right up there with Spock' Brain, or that DS9 episode were Quark became an transgender for some damn reason🤢.

@HappyBeezerStudios

5 жыл бұрын

Threshopd was such a disgrace to the canon that even the writers of the episode would favour for the episode to have never existied.

The warp 10 barrier was mentioned elsewhere (including on TNG), but Threshold is the only time in the 24th century's main timeline that it has been reached. It was exceeded in the 23rd century, but the accepted explanation is that the warp numbering system was altered at some point in the 100 years between, and it was exceeded in one or two alternate timelines in TNG. Threshold's problem was not the warp 10 barrier, but the entire rest of the episode.

@Qwerty-xi2zs

6 жыл бұрын

We see ships going past warp 10 (which isn't some space magic bullshit like it is in Threshold) multiple times in TNG.

@OriginalPiMan

6 жыл бұрын

Dovahkiin Only in alternate timelines and various futures

@Qwerty-xi2zs

6 жыл бұрын

Wrong again. Remember the Traveller?

@OriginalPiMan

6 жыл бұрын

Dovahkiin Yes, and they never stated what speed it was when they warped to another galaxy or to that imagination realm (as I choose to call it). I can't find an estimate of the speeds involved, but I recall seeing something years ago of something like 9.99999999.

@OriginalPiMan

6 жыл бұрын

weejockpoopongmcplop That's a fair criticism, and one that is never overcome. It was said in the episode that it (effectively) puts them everywhere in the universe at once. The problem is therefore not in deciding when to stop, but in how to stop where you want to stop. There is no indication that they planned that far ahead.

And Threshold is worth it for the wtf factor lol lizard babies

@oddish4352

3 жыл бұрын

Off screen salamander sex, what's not to like?

@ShamrockParticle

3 жыл бұрын

The lizard babies were so cute! The makeup was good... the 37s episode is far worse.

Am I the only one who cheered to see Janeway order the cloying, annoying, and ridiculous Tuvix to literally stop existing! The only redeeming moment of this pointless, useless episode!

@-RTC-

4 жыл бұрын

I really like that episode. I agree that Tuvix was a little bit annoying but the actual ethical dilemma of separating Tuvix back to Tuvok and Neelix or not was so interesting.

I actually really love 11:59 and rate it as a top Voyager episode, more or less precisely BECAUSE it's such a different thing. I enjoyed learning about Shannon O'Donnel, the commentary about how history can become sanitized and idealized over time, and how it resonated with Janeway. It just really worked for me, but I get why it doesn't for most people.

@josephbrown6906

2 жыл бұрын

While I don't rate it as a top Voyager episode, I do like this episode for all the reasons you mentioned.

Once upon a Time has an awesome moment where the Doctor, trying to change the subject on Naomi about her mom, seeing neelix came in and the Doctor says how great to see you neelix and Ethan Philips has the most amazing reaction to it cause almost everyone cant stand neelix so he's taken aback by the Doctor's statement and it keeps the episode from being god awful. One of the best moments of the show ever in that scene at least for me.

Jayneway and Paris having slug babies together was truly bonkers!

@subraxas

4 жыл бұрын

The drugs the writers did must have been laced with some pretty nasty sXXt. :-)

One of the worst episodes to me is "EXTREME RISK", and mainly because we are expected to believe that Torres has been long suffering from clinical depression? This is not a topic you can just mash into one episode. They should have built up to it, kind of like Paris' bad behavior in season 2. Or Garibaldis' drinking problem on Babylon 5!

Threshold is an example of why you don’t let the Work Experience kid write your multimillion pound franchise.

@Revkor

6 жыл бұрын

even the staff admitted that episode was a mistake.

@pferreira1983

6 жыл бұрын

The guy who came up with the story ended up becoming president of New Line. Just saying (wink).

@GameHammerCG

6 жыл бұрын

P Ferreira well that explains everything.

@pferreira1983

6 жыл бұрын

@GameHammer Classic Gaming I don't think he did too badly considering he came up with the plot for this story. Ha, ha!

@ARKINHK

6 жыл бұрын

Lets Have A Discussion The pound sterling is a ‘real’ currency and used in many countries. In fact it’s a also included in the currency basket. The U.S. dollar index started in 1973, and today is a basket of six currencies; the euro, Japanese yen, Canadian dollar, British pound, Swedish krona and Swiss franc. The euro is by far the biggest weighting making up 58 percent of the basket.

The part where Janeway is changing the traits of her holographic boyfriend was pretty funny. The part where Janeway says Delete the Wife was hilarious.

@alanmackie7012

Жыл бұрын

It sounded so bloody ruthless lol. She actually said something similar earlier in her 19th century holo-novel.

My first introduction to Voyager was through the episode Threshold. Yeah it wasn't the best intro to a series.

Threshold was so awful! As for the Warp 10 thing, it's supposed to be an infinite velocity. Theoretically, in Star Trek, if you could reach Warp 10 you would be EVERYWHERE at once; basically, you'd be God. Not even Q could accomplish that!

@EnvisionerWill

4 жыл бұрын

I'd imagine this would be extremely painful, for you and for literally everyone else in the universe.

You went back to Picard's "Truth" speech a couple of times but it seems you just ignored part of the speech: "Personal truth". Janeway experienced something that was life changing. So did B'Elana. And you may recall, Pickard experienced a few of those as well. Those experiences were real for them. They made them question and re-evaluate science and their own purpose. Although I suppose they may have been boring to the "now" generation, they were certainly not boring to the "reality" generation. "Shaka, when the walls fell".

@ingwerschwensen8115

5 жыл бұрын

Sorry, corthew, being from your so-called `reality´ generation (haha) myself I still think Rowan rightly picked some of Voyager's not so much boring but most of all bland and badly written episodes. He also points out correctly that some (not all) of their plots had real potential, which was being wasted due to dismal execution. So, your ageless cultural critique, pitching the false stereotype of shallow contemporaries against the false stereotype of a more reality-grounded and experience-prone former generation, has no objective value, and only tells us something about yourself, and the resentments you harbor. I liked your reminder of TNG's `Darmok´ episode, haven't seen that in a while, but it could also be called a kind of a Freudian Slip because the clichèd critique you offer could itself benefit from some difficult inter-generational bridgebuilding.

@toajaller992

5 жыл бұрын

Timba his arms wide

Where was the episode with Tuvok trapped on the planet with reverse aging kids?

@OggerFN

6 жыл бұрын

Jukrates That one wasn't that bad.

@swishfish8858

6 жыл бұрын

I HATE the "crashed the shuttle on a planet" episodes. There were a shocking amount of those in Voyager and I hate all of them.

@shooterdownunder

6 жыл бұрын

Jukrates or the one with chakotay where he ends up in a war zone only for it to turn out to be not real. Such an anti climax

@swishfish8858

6 жыл бұрын

shooter downunder - That one felt like they were trying to rip off The Inner Light. Voyager tried to rip off TNG a lot.

@litchtheshinigami8936

5 жыл бұрын

It wasn’t that bad tbh i mean that is still quite an interesting one to me.. just because it shows a different side of him you normally don’t see in regular episodes.. well in my opinion at least

Barge of the Dead gives us the best phrase ever: Born Again Klingon.

11:59 was one of my favourite episodes. Perhaps it was the soundtrack, but I found myself very invested in the drama. And I guess I'm one of the few people who liked the holodeck Irish town, but I thought Spirit Folk was a really fun episode, too.

@thebeststooge

6 жыл бұрын

It wasn't my favorite but at the time I really liked it too as we could see another character's ancestry and with the gateway twist too.

@ViciousAlienKlown

6 жыл бұрын

Oh my....what an...interesting opinion....and completely wrong.

@thebeststooge

6 жыл бұрын

ViciousAlienKlown What a stupid fuck as an opinion is just that an opinion and isn't right or wrong.

@ViciousAlienKlown

6 жыл бұрын

The Best Stooge Ok, calling people names doesn't express much other than a lack of a vocabulary. 😎

@ViciousAlienKlown

6 жыл бұрын

Better yet, my comment wasn't even directed towards you, the best stooge. Not too slick.

This was an excellent watch! I'm surprised how many of these I've seen. Every entry cast me back 20 years to before dinner Voyager watching. A kind of weird bitter Nostalgia. I would definitely love to see more of these type of videos. More Stargate stuff would be great too. Keep up the good work :)

Late one night in the spring of 2000 (while a member of a nameless boyband) we were on the paramount lot attending an after party for a movie called Snowday. Anyway, having got talking to a very drunk Paramount exec about star trek, we quickly found ourselves being ushered into a locked sound stage, and when the lights went on-- it was the bridge of Voyager. An unforgettable experience. The bridge, Sickbay, ten forward- basically all of the main locations were backed onto one another and were smaller than you'd expect. On the sound stage across from it was a warren of endless corridors. I sat in Janeway's chair ( covered in see through plastic, as were all of the chairs) And my reason for boring you all with this story is that while there, I found and "stole" a call sheet which one of the cast had obviously left lying around, and the episode they were in the middle of making at the time was "Fury" which of course makes this list. I'm in agreement because despite such an amazing experience in my life being associated with that episode, it's still a steaming pile of shit. For me, The Doctor and Seven were the two standout characters.

Lol: the sacred ground episode is literally what I think of when I hear I’m not religious but I’m spiritual. Glad I’m not the only one.

Unfortunately I would say the first episode Caretaker. I remember when I was 13 and I first watched the episode. Scratching my head thinking surely they used the array to get home and then left a bomb on the Caretakers array to blow up. Or why couldn't the Caretaker just leave a computer programmed to look after the Ocampa on the planet like a hologram.

@mikesshs

6 жыл бұрын

Did you not notice that the way the caretaker transported them killed her on board doctor, pilot, and commander among others.. Why would they use it to go back knowing for sure some people would die again would it be worth it to get back fast knowing so many of the crew would for sure die? I wouldn't want to be under the captain that would be that insane... Also it would have left the Kazon with the array and let them commit genocide on the Ocampa is getting back fast and killing members of your crew worth it knowing you allowed a genocide to happen? As for why the caretaker couldn't leave something I am not sure but I assume part of the energy of his ship/array came from him and a hologram wouldn't have it it died with him. And why they couldn't leave a bomb there were other Kazon ships on the way and would be there shortly and Tuvok said it would take him time to even figure out how to send them back most likely they wouldn't have had time to do all that or even get sent back with Kazon reinforcements on the way.

@larrytipton2868

6 жыл бұрын

I didn't watch till season 4 because of Caretaker. Don't feel bad.

@HappyBeezerStudios

5 жыл бұрын

Pretty sure with enough time the crew would've figured out a way to get everyone home safe and keep the Ocampa in a state where they could survive and defend themselves. But plot demanded them to be stranded there, so they had to blow it up to not let the array fall into the wrong hands.

These episodes are so bad I can't sit through this video all at once. I can't handle being reminded of all of them.

ah yes, Threshold. The episode where Tom Paris invents a ship that goes infinity miles per hour. And they think this could bring them home somehow, not that what actually happened was any more likely mind you.

Klingon episodes are on the whole really dull, they're an overused species that need to be left alone. One thing I really liked about Torres initially was her rejection of everything Klingon, despite the physical advantages it gave her she never wanted any part of them. As for her not getting over her issues, its the underlying failure of VOY in that pretty much everything is reset for the next episode because the producers or the studio or whoever thought that the audience could handle growth and development and continuing storylines, because we'd all get too confused and lost.

How did you ever pick only 10? The entire first two seasons are really, but really meh and then there's Fair Haven etc. Also, B'Elanna doesn't need counseling, she needs banana pancakes obviously. :D

@aquamonkee

6 жыл бұрын

Entire series was a waste of time. There are only about 15 episodes I ever both rewatching

@pferreira1983

6 жыл бұрын

Seasons 5-7 was the worst.

@HappyBeezerStudios

5 жыл бұрын

Yeah, somewhat after Scorpion the level dropped. There are some good ones like "The Voyager Conspiracy" that plays with the ongoing continuity errors, "Blink of an Eye", the ironic "Tinker Tenor Doctor Spy"and "Live Fast and Prosper" as well the mentioned "Shattered" The rest of the last two seasons are pretty bad.

@alouettedemer5366

5 жыл бұрын

It is because we use the base-10 counting system and the half and the double of it. It's always 10 this or that...or 5 this or that...or 20 this or that. It is never 9 this or that...or 13 this or that. Our perception of reality is being limited by the counting system we employ. And we consider ourselves conscious beings? Really? We've go a long way to go before we actually exceed the sum of our programming. A long way.

@Jarsia

4 жыл бұрын

on rewatch, season 1 was actually pretty good. Caretaker was a solid pilot, and Eye of the Needle, Jetrel, Phage, Faces were all excellent. Parallax, Heroes and Demons, and State of Flux are pretty good too. The rest are mostly alright, with only Cathexis, Time & Again, and perhaps Ex Post Facto being sub par. S2 on the other hand was the absolute worst of the show.

Actually, the Warp 10 thing has been an issue in Star Trek since they moved to a log scale system in TNG. Ships can travel at various levels of 9.9xxxx, but 10 is meant to be infinite speed, but like the current light barrier, it is meant to require infinite energy.

I love Threshold for the sheer audacity to go that stupid. It has some nice make up effects and body horror moments (Paris ripping his tongue out... wish that would have been permanent). I want a spin-off episode about the Janeway/Paris salamander babies.

I'm on S3 of a rewatch after 10 years and after watching Favorite Son I came searching to see if it made it onto any lists because damn that was a terrible terrible episode. That outshines most if not all of the episodes on this list imo. What a waste of an hour. While Threshold was in bad taste - why did they want to script salamander babies and what were they trying to say about our course of evolution, lmao - at least I didn't fall asleep watching it. I also thought Darkling wearisom along with Rise. I guess the issue I'm finding in general this far into the rewatch is that they fail to advance the characters in any satisfying sense and so the action of the episode ends up feeling pointless because there is no progress. For example Sacred Ground had potential to lead somewhere interesting if it had been a catalyst to Janeway actually questioning science and faith. It could have been interesting if in Coda the appearance of her 'father' had helped her deal with something unresolved that was impacting her in the present. At this point the Doctor is the only character who has shown any kind of steady progress and maybe Paris.

@sabercrosby8128

3 жыл бұрын

I'm doing the same and season 3 has terrible episodes, but also some great ones. You can understand why the ratings dropped the network wanted to change the show

@100percentshipper

3 жыл бұрын

@@sabercrosby8128 Yeah, there are some great episodes too but they did need to shake it up. Seven def got comparatively wonderful development which is prob why she was so popular after her arrival. I also have to say that Fury ended up being my most disliked episode. What an awful character assassination...

I agree with most of the episodes, but Barge of the Dead was one of my favorite episodes.

I always thought of voyager as a big soap opera in space. Lol. Good job, you could probably squeeze another ten episodes, STV is what my husband watches to take a nap 😊

God, I don't even remember most of these and I already don't remember the series that fondly

Agrees with almost all but the Fair haven episodes. I really kinda liked them. The Hollo characters are funny and the doctors as a Priest is kinda fun too. And I don't think Neelix is so bad. When Kes was onboard he was, this jellousy he had was just bad.... But since Kes vanished form the show, I think Neelix even got a little better.

They should have taken Tom's and captain's salamandra babies back to Voyager. 😂

@axemaster6730

6 жыл бұрын

That's actually what bothers me since I've seen the episode. I mean, of course they were transformed, but those baby salamanders are literally their children, as weird as it sounds. Why would they abandon them? Surely they would've found some place on the ship for them.

@MrStabby19812

5 жыл бұрын

Axemaster they were technically human they could of been turned back into normal kids

It may be boring, but at least Fair Haven has the classic evil Janeway line, "Delete the wife." I'm surprised "Nemesis" didn't get a mention. My glimpses cannot tolerate that episode. Why is Chakotay, a former Maquis captain, giving speeches about how violence isn't the answer in this episode clearly about the dangers of wartime propaganda?

2.30: William Shatner in AIRPLANE 2 "Pretend nothing is happening and hope everything is alright in the morning"!!!!..LOL

Thank heavens for Stargate....

Actually, the Warp 10 barrier has been well established in the TNG & DS9 lore. Ships can achieve ever increasing levels of Warp 9.9999+, with ever increasing inputs of energy, but Warp 10 is impossible.....if only because of the amount of energy needed to achieve it. A TNG novel called Vendetta deals with the effects of crossing the Warp 10 barrier much better ;).

@RowanJColeman

6 жыл бұрын

I don't remember it ever being an established thing. In fact Voyager itself goes beyond warp 10 later in the show and no one ends up devolving.

@TheMarcHicks

6 жыл бұрын

Rowan J Coleman its established in all the TNG tech manuals....which I bought at the time. You sound surprised that Voyager had issues with Continuity ;).

@DrewLSsix

6 жыл бұрын

Marcus Hicks. You seem to suggest the rest of the franchise didnt lol. I posted this elsewhere but I think that in the case of All Good Things where the refit Enterprise is ordered to warp 15 that one of two things happened. This being after voyagers return the federation adopted their warp 10 tech to exceed 10 without the side effects but also without the infinite speed. They adopted some of the tech encountered that is faster than typical warp and simply extrapolated those speeds on the logarithmic warp scale for convenience. Or most likely imo they are well into the warp 9.9xxxxx era where one end represents a comfortable cruising speed and the other a dangerous event. With either end sepperated by just a few decimal places. Thats the type of condition that requires a re scaling of the absolutely arbitrary warp scale. And its something that has been done before so it makes a lot of sense.

@OriginalPiMan

6 жыл бұрын

Rowan, when did they top warp 10? They go stupidly fast via transwarp conduits, slipstream, etc. but at no point is Voyager's stated speed above warp 10. They only went warp 9.999...9 or some other almost arbitrary almost-10 figure.

@aarongreenfield9038

6 жыл бұрын

OriginalPiMan. In the episode all good things, when picard is traveling through time, when they are aboard the riker's ship, after crushers ship explodes, right before crusher sneaks up to sedate picard, riker says to go to warp 13!

"Fairhaven" - Captain Janeway falls in love with a Hol O'Gram.....

@EnvisionerWill

4 жыл бұрын

You win a novelty green Internet....

Only 10?

How did Endgame not end up on here? How many times during the series did Janeway have the option to go back in time to stop the events that sent Voyager into the Delta Quadrant, and she always said no to it, due to the impact the Voyager already had on so many species during their journey. Essentially last part of that journey, in which Seven of Nine dies, all the impact Voyager would have had was ignored. It was a fun episode, but a real cheap, quick cut excuse to conclude the series.

I was expecting macro-virus.

@sabercrosby8128

3 жыл бұрын

Loved that ep. The music and lighting made it like a horror movie. Spooky episode. And I like when Janeway goes rambo

I'm rewatching voyager and stopped for a month because I'm having trouble getting through 11:59. At least the other bad episodes take place on Voyager in space with the show's characters. 11:59 feels like it comes from a completely different show. The only connection is that Kate plays both Janeway and the main character of that episode

LIEUTENANT THOMAS EUGENE PARIS " here lies THOMAS EUGENE PARIS BELOVED RADIOACTIVE MUTANT " that line was FUNNY as HELL

Hey man i really like your videos but you missed the point of once upon a time BIG TIME The fact that neelix doesn't want to tell naomi about her mother is treated as the main conflict in the episode, even Janeway forces him to do so but he doesn't want to because of his personal struggle dealing with his family death. He is not doing the right thing but it's because he is missguided and the episode shows that

@tony58300

6 жыл бұрын

The other episodes were trully stinkers tho

Lol binge watching / skipping episodes now in Netflix

awww. some of my favorite episodes are on this list. I don't see why people didnt like salamader Paris and Janeway having freaky evolution babies. I just love how everyone tries to pretend it never happened since it is never brought up again, but you just know it is brought up all the time in-universe.

I wouldnt say they were bad. Just disappointing

WHAT NO TUVIX? You slackin' bro.

@walterwhite5354

5 жыл бұрын

i love this episode. great story

BARGE OF THE DEAD haven't you ever heard of CHARON he would ferry the dead to their final judgment

1:24 I looked it up and apparently 11:59 started out as a potential Q episode, where Janeway realizes that Q was messing around with her ancestor. Then Q was replaced with Guinan. However, those aspects were eventually dropped and they decided to just focus on Janeway's ancestor. Joe Menosky stated, "Our original inspiration for this was to do an episode where we didn't see Voyager at all. All we saw was Kate Mulgrew playing a distant ancestor [of Kathryn Janeway]. The idea was to tell a quintessentially Star Trek story without any science fiction. I wrote a teleplay, and it was a very painful [script] to write, because our premise wasn't working. We realized that we couldn't tell a story just on Earth without having Voyager to ground us in some way. We ended up doing a third of the episode set on Voyager."

Lol yup fury made no sense - she goes a bit senile ...then decides to destroy voyager ...but then remembers she left of her own free will. What?!

This must have been a hard episode to make.. Just 10.

"Ahem, the Orville." THANK YOU!

Great watch! I enjoyed your list and it’s breakdown. Thank you very much! I personally have very little Voyager experience. I only caught the Q ones because I’m a DeLancie fan, so it’s great to see a worst list since I’m not a good judge on this Trek series. I did watch your top ten Enterprise episodes a while back, and they were really awesome!

@EnvisionerWill

4 жыл бұрын

You would have been really mad if I'd been the one writing the list, since my bottom 10 unquestionably includes "The Q and the Grey".

I'm so glad at least one Trekkie also finds the Klingon episodes boring, I tend to skip a lot of them in my rewatchs.

Oh no! Not Fair Haven! I really liked that one... :(

@EnvisionerWill

4 жыл бұрын

It's literally the last episode that I watched, just a matter of hours ago as I post this, and it was SO. BORING. The only thing of any consequence whatsoever was the threat to the ship, which was so phoned-in as to be completely meaningless. Otherwise, it's Janeway having a crisis of conscience about doing something that Quark's former Cardassian customers did on the holosuite every day. Yaaaaaawn.

Broooooooo! How could you forget "The Thaw"? An entire episode with silly space clowns. This episode always makes me face palm.

@mcmoozack

6 жыл бұрын

THAT episode FREAKS me the HELL out.

@Noycey64

6 жыл бұрын

Agree, I hate that episode.

@shooterdownunder

6 жыл бұрын

The only redeeming quality for the episode was the ending

@MarcelFromThatTVshow

6 жыл бұрын

“The only thing we have to fear is fear itself”

@corey2232

5 жыл бұрын

Lol that one was hilarious if it's the one I'm thinking of... Isn't that where the "kids" end up being elderly adults who just reverse age and now have to go into some cave thing to die? Additionally, I think Voyager could easily have a "Top 20 Worst Episodes" list & still have room to spare. Not to say the show was bad, only that it had a sizable amount of clunkers that are worth mentioning as truly awful episodes.

I kinda disagree with Sacred Ground. The reason it was all randomly vaugley spiritual stuff was because that's the kinda thing Janeway assumed she'd have to do. It doesn't excuse it for being bland but It is interesting in concept. The whole episode was about how a scientificly minded person like Janeway sees religion. How all of things in it can explained logically through science and thus it's just ritualistic and tradition. When she learns about the mystic of it from the weird guide lady (I can't exactly explain how she said it off memory) she begins to understand it more. In the end it isn't her not believing the truth, it's just her dissapointment at seeing everything being so clinically explained after having such an "interesting" experiance.

I came here right after playing star trek online. I thought the at the background game is still running. Exact same background music...

Voyager is my favorite Star Trek, but yea. When they drop the ball, they drop the ball. In the words of Janeway at the end of Threshold "We will never speak of this again." Though I disagree with you that these were the worst. Some of them. Yes. Definitely. But there are ones that I found way worse than some on your list.

@EnvisionerWill

4 жыл бұрын

I'm pretty sure she doesn't actually say that, although she definitely should. I almost always push for more continuity in Star Trek but this was definitely one event that should NOT be referenced again later.

Fair Haven...I agree. Don't really like that one either.11:59 wasn't bad though! It's about the past..doesn't have to be about the future. Totally disagree about Sacred Ground: one of the best ones of Voyager IMO because Janeway questions her scientific reasoning in this episode! Once. Upon a Time-not a favorite of mine either..however I liked the holodeck part of it. :) Barge of the Dead-totally disagree with you!!! LOVED this Bellanna centered episode. She's not whining! She's facing an inner conflict!! I loved this whole episode immensely-the costuming and the acting was wonderful. Drive: a good one for me as well. I loved that it was about a space race. :) B'Ellana Torres wasn't a complainer at al!! She was being sarcastic, witty, and not to mention pretty funny. Fury-I did agree with you on this one. Didn't really like it much. Didn't like how they did the Kes character. Very unnecessary. Sprit Folk-yep agree. Meh. Nuff said Elogium-disagree-LOVED this one! One of my most watched ones of Voyager! So interesting to watch I thought. Threshold-yep crazy as hell. But Robert McNeill did say that if you take a mind numbing substance before watching this episode...you'll appreciate it more. LOL!

@EnvisionerWill

4 жыл бұрын

Wow, you like Elogium and Sacred ground, my mind is blown. And that's hilarious that Tom's actor actually said that about Threshold, I bet the studio was annoyed with him for it.

You forgot to mention that Threshold was a "Voyager has technology to get home" episode where they don't actually give any kind of reason why they can't use it to just get back home. At the end of the episode, the technology doesn't blow up in their face, isn't revealed to be faulty, or some other plot contrivance preventing them from ending the series. The "infinite speed" engine still works, and they have a perfect cure for the "turns into a salamender" side effect. Why didn't they fly to Earth then apply the cure when they get there?

I think that Threshold is an interesting idea, a Halloween episode where Tom Paris turns into an evil fish monster? That sounds like such a ridiculously dumb yet awesome idea, Star Trek’s homage to The Fly, here’s the thing, I think it should have focused on Harry and Tom’s friendship, and Harry first having to watch his friend mutate into a fish creature, and then take command of the situation as he tries to stop Tom from turning the rest of the ship into fish people. It’s a stupid idea, but if it was executed well it could be a fitting B-Movie.

5:17 The screen says 7 but the voice says 6

THE THAW: The crew attempts to rescue three aliens in stasis from a bizarre fear-based computer program with an annoying clown. How is that better than Fair Haven?

@subraxas

4 жыл бұрын

That episode actually heavily reminded me of TOS.

@EnvisionerWill

4 жыл бұрын

I agree that the clown is superficially annoying, but the episode is actually quite good if you look deeply into it. I recommend watching the Lorerunner's Rumination analysis on that episode, he does a great job of walking through the subtlety.

I was getting ready to complain about you complaining about one of my favorite Star Trek series. But, you were right. Especially about that last one, it WAS the worst. "Reset Syndrome" I love that phrase. And while that is an ingredient in bad episodes, "The Year of Hell" is also guilty of Reset Syndrome, yet it was one of their best.

I have to disagree with Barge of the Dead. That was really, really good Klingon-centric episode.

the fight, do i need to say more

@Havron

4 жыл бұрын

Good lord what a boring episode "The Fight" is! I had to make three separate attempts to watch it for the first time, as I literally kept falling asleep. "Threshold" may be the most ridiculously bad episode, but at least it has plenty of unintentional humorous entertainment value. "The Fight" takes the cake on the unwatchable front, and in my book that makes it the worst episode of them all.

I can't believe you missed "The Fight" from I think season 5. That was the most boring shit I've ever seen, not even restricted to Star Trek. I can mostly get some good things out of every Trek episode, but that episode crossed the line.

@shooterdownunder

6 жыл бұрын

StarTrekMarco just mentioning that made me remember my reaction to watching the episode as a kid. "That's it? That's where they went with that idea?"

@AsianTheDomination

5 жыл бұрын

Watch "the fight" from the office its much better

no matter what Star Trek. I hate all their holodeck adventures and usually skip through those episodes. NO matter if its Picards fantasy about being a cliche detective, tom paris as proton - or janeway as english creepy nanny. The only holodeck fantasy that I thought funny was the doctors idea of a perfect family. And then they had to spoil that for him by let his "daughter" die slowly 😩 Just to prove him that he has the wrong idea how a family works? Very cruel.

Elogium deserves particular singling out for having one of the most contrived and misleading TV promos of all episodes. Not just content with being cheesy and contrived, it actually had to throw in an invented "Kes is pregnant, but WHO... IS... THE... FATHER?" bait that never comes up in the episode.

My favourite episode is blood fever

The worst by far is the one where Tuvok meets the reverse aging children. God that one was unbearable.

@pferreira1983

6 жыл бұрын

Nah, there's worst episodes.

@MB-li6mr

6 жыл бұрын

I like the episode, but it could have been told in like 15 minutes

*Voyager was an attempt to fix what wasn't broken with DS9*

Voyager always felt like Gilligan's Island in Space. It had compelling parts, and "Blink of an Eye" was one of the best hours of television, period, but the series couldn't escape the hovering sense of, "Gee, Captain, what are we going to do this episode?" "Same thing we do every episode, Ensign: Try to get back to the Alpha Quadrant." Pardon the mixed allusions there.

I think Threshold has to be the worse episode ever. • The devolving into lizards is ridiculous to start with, and then mating on top of that. • But the continuity issue over Warp 10 is what annoys me the most; if ST:TNG writers set a precedent of exceeding Warp 10 (ie. I clearly remember Riker casually ordering his ship into Warp 15 without a second thought), why don't they at least keep the universe consistent… Bah Humbug! But really, Warp 10 equals the vessel being in every point of the universe simultaneously? The universe is pretty big, which makes that statement a bit of a reach, even for SciFi. Warp 10 is only 512c, that's not nearly fast enough; if indeed you could determine a required speed for such an achievement.

@RowanJColeman

6 жыл бұрын

Yeah warp drive is just going faster than light speed by several magnitudes. But Threshold turns it into the Improbability Drive from Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy haha.

@DavidGreen_au

6 жыл бұрын

Oh yes. I had forgotten about the "Infinite Improbability Drive". They probably borrowed it, along with a cup of Picard's Earl Grey for the 'Brownian Motion generator'.

@DrewLSsix

6 жыл бұрын

David Green. No, warp ten in infinite speed. Warp 9 is already 834, warp 9.9 is over 3000 times the speed of light. 9.99 is nearly 8000 times the speed of light. Remember, logarithmic scale. As for wht Riker ordered warp 15, that event was not only theoretically well after Voyagers return and their experiments with warp 10, slip stream, and other techs but it is also at least another timeline and likely one specifically created or chosen by Q. In that time line they may have found a way to use warp 10 tech without suffering the side effects seen in VGR, they may have adopted slip stream or other tech and modified the warp scale (again) to accommodate it. Or most likely to me, they have continued to push deeper into the waro 9.9xxxx fractions. To the point that travel in that range is common enough to make another change to the waro scale prudent. A logarithmic scale is only adopted to help deal with very large numbers, so saying warp 2 warp 5 etc is more convenient than saying set warp to 10 times c or 214 times c. Similarly if warp between 9.9 and 9.9999 becomes the difference between casual cruising speed and top speed you have the same interface issue. Those two numbers represent a huge difference in effective speed. So re scaling the warp speed charts makes sense, as its easier dor our minds to cope with smaller whole numbers and minor fractions than it is to deal with multiple decimal places. When 9.997 and 9.999 represent vastly different things the ease of making mistakes and the potential scale of that mistake make for a dangerous intersection. Better if one is say, warp 12 and the latter warp 15 right?

@DavidGreen_au

6 жыл бұрын

DrewLSsix A logarithmic scale? Maybe the book has been rewritten over the years. Last I read was that speed was calculated as 2^(WarpFactor - 1) × c. But irrespective of the maths, the concept is absurd. It's okay for Hitchhiker's, but seems out of place on ST.

@DrewLSsix

6 жыл бұрын

David Green its not precicely either really. Especially the Okuda scale thats basically hand drawn to fit his requirements.

Sacred ground wasn't that bad I kinda like it

@Enkarashaddam

6 жыл бұрын

David Cottone The first duty of a Starfleet officer is to the truth... and that includes his/her own personal truth. In fact the process of Janeway developing her own personal truth, as opposed to technology and science, is the only thing Sacred Ground is about. I agree with most of what this guy says but his opinion on Sacred Ground really makes no sense.

@MAGICBaNaNAz64

6 жыл бұрын

Enkarashaddam Exactly. This guy just seems like an edgy atheist.

@qdllc

5 жыл бұрын

It was a good episode. Janeway is a scientist. However, at the end, she had to take a “leap of faith” and it worked. The Doctor tried to revive Kes with what they learned from monitoring Janeway during the trials. In a way, science failed Janeway. Yes, in the end, science could explain why it worked, but it was the impact of making that choice solely on faith. For comparison, view the TNG episode where Roe and Geordi thought they were dead. Roe encountered a similar “moment of humility” where she questioned whether her rejection of the beliefs of her people was wrong after all.

@sambbailey9695

5 жыл бұрын

The message I took from this episode was "Don't try to think, don't try to understand, just sit down and do as you're told." I would have thought that most religious people would be equally offended.

@admiralandy1983

5 жыл бұрын

The main reason I have a negative opinion of it is because on the original VHS tapes this episode was the one before Futures End part one.

How could they meet Kes again after 5 years? She was moving into the oppositr direction, on the other side of the Borg Space ... Did she secretly follow Voyager all the time while planning her revenge or did she use a wormhole?

What about Course: Oblivion? Here's a synopses. In an earlier episode(Demon) some liquid meal life-forms gain sentience by copying the DNA of the crew of Voyager. We discover half way through Course: Oblivion that the crew of the Voyager we are seeing are the copies who ended up thinking they were the original Voyager crew. They suffer horribly as their bodies dissolve, fail to preserve their history and any documentation of their existence and then everyone dies in despair. THE END.