Top 10 cards that helped Kripp to make my fries taste better.

@JoeyFaller

5 жыл бұрын

i wish i could love reacc this as well

@vijaygarv

5 жыл бұрын

Markus DG PTSD Intensifies

You could even change Warsong Commander now to work with Rush instead of Charge, either giving Rush minions more attack or giving 3 or less attack minions Rush. Would fit with Warrior’s current themes better, and would make a card in Warrior’s basic set sometimes worth playing, instead of never seeing any play.

@imapaincake2305

5 жыл бұрын

It would be awesome but Rush isn't a "basic mechanic" so it can't stay in the set. Also at the day of the nerf Rush wasn't even a thing

@MeldinX2

5 жыл бұрын

@@imapaincake2305 true but no one plays it in the current form anyway so it could just have that text anyway and be good for people who got more cards.

@kennethokubo3435

5 жыл бұрын

but then they'd have to change it's entrance quote lol.

@MeldinX2

5 жыл бұрын

@@kennethokubo3435 Yeah i guess it wont happen then. Too much effort for Blizzard! :/

@MeldinX2

5 жыл бұрын

@@kennethokubo3435 Yeah i guess it wont happen then. Too much effort for Blizzard! :/

I just came here to see where tunnel trog was.

@C1umsyJester

5 жыл бұрын

Surprisingly, nowhere

@zaooza34

5 жыл бұрын

My face still hurts thanks to that trog. But Jade Idol damaged something far more fragile than face...

@C1umsyJester

5 жыл бұрын

zaooza34 I think trogg should’ve replaced MC tech

@EdGeLV

5 жыл бұрын

Seems a bit funny that he forgot to mention it after bashing strong one-drops on a monthly basis

@AndersAsWell

5 жыл бұрын

I couldnt think of anything worse than Jade Idol and Mc Tech, and i remembered Kripps hatred of Tunnel Trogg and figured it had to be there somewhere on the list, but i guess not

1:34 see cards 21:05 skip cards

@ex2738

5 жыл бұрын

Thanks, I almost saw the video like a pleb

@christop3

5 жыл бұрын

skipperino, rastakhans is live in like 2 weeks yea?

Just nerf baku to 10 mana ez

@Accomplisss

5 жыл бұрын

Perfect comment

@marinn00

5 жыл бұрын

Better buff Baku to 2 mana

@OfficialJagPaw

5 жыл бұрын

Hahaha

@robertogomez2932

5 жыл бұрын

Lol

@connman8d617

5 жыл бұрын

@@marinn00 lol 2 mana baku would be played in every deck...100%.

*ERRONEOUS CREATIONS ARE INEVITABLE. UNFORTUNATELY, WHILE I ERASE MY FAILED EXPERIMENTS FROM THIS REALITY, BLIZZARD REACTS BY NERFING FIERY WAR AXE.*

@megashark1013

5 жыл бұрын

Mecha'thun You should be on the list! *Dabs one handed*

@dalby_99

5 жыл бұрын

Hey there. 2

@prussia9255

5 жыл бұрын

It was a buff so that it could be played in odd warrior

@SebasCapo2013

5 жыл бұрын

I play Mecha'Thun druid, whenever I play against Evenlock I just surrender, they play the fucking Geist and cannot win anymore :/

@Kallmeyamama

5 жыл бұрын

@@SebasCapo2013 You honestly deserve it

Kripparrian's guide to CARD DESIGN!!! Better not print cards like THESE ->

@fusiformis4520

5 жыл бұрын

Your job is becoming rather obsolete with Kripps latest titlechoices.

@steinerraphael235

5 жыл бұрын

Not positioning the mouse cursor over Kripps nose in your profile pic really is a missed opportunity

@steinerraphael235

5 жыл бұрын

That said you are pretty funny

@GamePlayMetal

5 жыл бұрын

Less clickbaity than the actual video title

@juhas1636

5 жыл бұрын

YOU WON'T BELIEVE WHAT NUMBER 6 IS!

Al’ Akir has the best design you should play him more

@Kambocya7482

5 жыл бұрын

I agree my lord

@notquiteaweebyet1054

5 жыл бұрын

I unironically think he's decent

@bonglord420

5 жыл бұрын

@@notquiteaweebyet1054 That's because unironically, he is

@user-dw9yi9mu8b

5 жыл бұрын

AL' AKIR IS THE WEAKEST OF THE ELEMENTAL LORDS WHAT ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT!?!?

@NeostormXLMAX

4 жыл бұрын

@@user-dw9yi9mu8b you realize you aren't used in wild ether right even though you're hall of famed

Another garbage thing about Warsong Commander! Blizzard is never going to print another card with Charge ever again. I actually thought that they could change it to "Whenever you summon a minion with 3 or less attack, give it rush" and that would be a pretty good card. It would even help make rush warrior into a deck people play. I toyed around with making it "Your other minions have rush" but then realized that it would just be a better version of the hunter legendary.

@Thaumius

5 жыл бұрын

Charge is just WAY too good. Just look at Leeroy Jenkins, Every aggro deck runs it.

@tabunedale5667

5 жыл бұрын

well dude, take your time with the boar……at least it had charge for synergy with the card#“best” design ever

@IceBloo

5 жыл бұрын

I just realized that only one charge minion was released in the last two years.

@Ceracio

5 жыл бұрын

@@IceBloo And it can't attack the turn it's played anyway...

@IceBloo

5 жыл бұрын

Szadek29 what? It has charge so why can’t it? (I’m referring to chillblade champion, the Paladin lifesteal charge minion) Edit: just realized you’re talking about charged devilsaur. I guess there were two charge minions in the last two years.

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@Fuzmonster59

5 жыл бұрын

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@Lord_Zuko69

5 жыл бұрын

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@paulmuntean1459

5 жыл бұрын

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@Lord_Zuko69

5 жыл бұрын

@@Rami H that should be possible though? DEFAULT SOLUTION: 1. Tap and hold finger (or something else) on the text you want to copy. 2. A popup window should show up, giving you options: (copy, cut, paste, etc) 3. Release your finger 4. Tap on copy. 5. Go to the textbox where you want to paste your text to. 6. Repeat Steps 1-3 and then use paste instead of copy. 7. You've copy pasted! :D Sounds easy right? Not that easy as using ctrl+c, ctrl+v though

@dale7208

5 жыл бұрын

I thought it was “HEY, EVERYONE! GET IN HERE!”

Mind control tech is just on the list because it makes Kripp salty in arena

@Dionisisdenis

5 жыл бұрын

It is a rly below average card though.Also, patches and baku shouldnt be on this list.

@dylanb2990

5 жыл бұрын

Dionisisdenis it’s not below average in arena or constructed, wtf u talking about.

@Dionisisdenis

5 жыл бұрын

@@dylanb2990 Below average in design not in power.Just not enough to be on this list.

@Jaigarful

5 жыл бұрын

Yeah, I don't actually agree with Kripp thats its a poorly designed card. It just doesn't fit what hearthstone has become. There was a time where you simply didn't go more than 3 minions because of it or flamestrike in certain matchups. It also just seems odd to complain about the RNG of MCT but not mention Slyvanas.

@Randy-zw7mk

5 жыл бұрын

100%

15:46 _Grim Patron spam flashbacks_

@mayhaps1

5 жыл бұрын

Pile on!

@DisturbedNeo

5 жыл бұрын

EVERYONE!!! GET IN HERE!!!

@Miltenization

5 жыл бұрын

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@MrPinkok

5 жыл бұрын

It was such a time to be alive!

@KCzz15

5 жыл бұрын

I'm just surprised that Mysterious Challenger didn't even make the list.

I always though that warsong commander worked wrong. It should have given minions on your board charge as long as they had power 3 or less, so when beserker's power rose it would have lost charge.

@DerWitzboldt

5 жыл бұрын

That's true, but it was still too strong with grim patron.

The difference between Shudderwock and Yogg are that while Yogg was an end of game hail marry play that could just as easily hurt you as help you, Shudderwock was a card that, if your opponent got the combo going, you just lose in a slow and painful manner almost no matter how much life you had or what you have on the board.

Aaaaaaaggghhhggg!! Ok this is not a joke I think I ate something bad and now I'm rolling around on the floor in pain.

@denisgulyakin5262

5 жыл бұрын

Vegan problems.

@elliotboiii

5 жыл бұрын

Guys I think we can all agree we have went too deep

@notdoingmeth6579

5 жыл бұрын

The kripperino we need.

@Thanos1908

5 жыл бұрын

"we have gone.."

@robertonome2448

5 жыл бұрын

lmao nice kripperino

Kripperwock "My jaws that salt My claws that *damage the soul* !"

@Shoobe

5 жыл бұрын

wowie so many garbo comments as of late

@ultimateabsol1268

5 жыл бұрын

Attack sound: Topdeck!?!

@aaronarmenta4237

5 жыл бұрын

@@Shoobe wow so many pricks as of late

@neo6492

5 жыл бұрын

@@Shoobe this one speams truth!

@sebastianbarton2790

5 жыл бұрын

lmao

10.Baku, the Mooneater 9.Prince Keleseth 8.Imp-losion 7.Barnes 6.The Caverns Below 5.Patches the Pirate 4.Mind Control Tech 3.Shudderwock 2.Jade Idol 1.Warsong Commander

The card i hated the most: Pre-nerf undertaker. If you did not have a 1 or 2 mana removal in your opening hand, you lost the game. It would make tunnel trogg look like an average minion.

@Quitarstudent

5 жыл бұрын

those were the times! death taker into leper and leper, gg bro!

@Smilinturd

5 жыл бұрын

owl meta was real haha, tbh they were horrid times

@humbletreestump8134

5 жыл бұрын

Ah back when priest was such a joke class but completely dumpstered huntertaker. What an odd time

@luminous3558

5 жыл бұрын

@@Quitarstudent the times of buzzard unleash and naxx hunter

actually think grim patron days were the best, it was cheap, it was strong and it was actually hard to play and quite fun to watch with all the crazy math going on

@Block1618

5 жыл бұрын

I think the post nerf version was best in the 6 months after the nerf hit, it didn't do crazy otk's but was consistently strong and good against aggro.

@unluckygamer692

5 жыл бұрын

I honestly loved pre- nerf patron warrior, it's probably my favorite deck of all time. That being said it was horribly overpowered and even if you played it sub-optimally it was really strong (even though there was a really high reward for skilled players which is what made me love the deck).

@AzureDrag0n1

5 жыл бұрын

Same Grim Patron was one of the most fun and interesting decks to play that this game has ever produced. I wish I could play it in wild. Wild seems pointless and just a variant of Standard as the most OP decks in Wild are basically slightly stronger versions of Standard decks.

@dominicgunderson

5 жыл бұрын

@@AzureDrag0n1 Nah but you can do so much more in wild then standard. It's way more fun imo.

@armorfrogentertainment

5 жыл бұрын

Patron Warrior on ladder had about a 40% win rate. Because most of the people playing it were really bad at it

My favorite time in Hearthstone was the last expansion that Mean Streets of Gadgetzan was in standard, with the Grand Tournament and Reno Jackson. So many decks existed and renolock was one of my favorites

Jade Idol died so that I could summon Tyrantus from your hand! A noble sacrifice, but Jade Idol can still burn in hell.

@fredrikolsson2405

5 жыл бұрын

Where is your friend mecha cha thun ?;p

@UpstarterinoKripperino

5 жыл бұрын

*Oondastarino

@murlocmasher3368

5 жыл бұрын

Cringe

Great video! I think you nailed the list.

@OwGash

5 жыл бұрын

I expected him to love barnes tho lol

@edwardmarshall2035

5 жыл бұрын

Undertaker? Mysterious challenger? Kingsbane?

@Pillandelta

5 жыл бұрын

@@OwGash When Barnes cam out, he was ok because people tried him in fun non meta decks, but after a while meta decks that included Barnes were broken and everyone stoped loving him.

@OwGash

5 жыл бұрын

@@Pillandelta Fair enough. No tunnel trog on the list is surprising tho.

@josequeiroz1256

5 жыл бұрын

Edward Marshall good designs tho

Fun video man! Make more Top 10’s please :P

I'd include preparation on this list simply cos it's so badly designed that it restricts spell design forever in rogue

I don't see why Shudderwock couldn't have worked like Yogg, but with random battlecries instead of spells. It would be more of a meme card than competitive, sure, but it would be more fair to play against and gives the one playing it actual risk in using it, such as getting Deathwing's battlecry when you have a big hand, Fire Imp/Pitlord's battlecry, Doomguard's battlecry, etc. Jade as a whole was cancerous. I really hated Jade decks when they were around, and of course Druid was the worst offender for obvious reasons. Skulking Geist was a godsend. Mind Control Tech will be Hall of Famed with the next rotation. It will definitely happen. There have been enough complaints about it from the community. Crystal Core should have been a different reward completely. Something that actually fits Rogue. The problem is clearly granting all your low cost minions a big buff that can't be silenced, but Blizzard either remained too stubborn to change it or are too stupid to realize it. It's a greater Keleseth effect. Barnes I felt wasn't that big of a deal outside of a few, select decks. Aside from Priest and any decks using it to get Y'Shaarj on turn 3-4, it was whatever. Priest was (and still is in wild) bullshit with Barnes because of all the revive effects the class has. _That_ should be looked at more, not Barnes himself.

Top 10 worst baked B A N A N A B R E A D S ever

@joedalton155

5 жыл бұрын

@Tamer Ciftci Dude you should stop flaming this guy every fucking time he posts a comment, it's becoming a bit ridiculous now

@rhomoe1254

5 жыл бұрын

@Tamer Ciftci Bro this kripp is still more relevant then you like who makes fun of somebody because they don't speak a language perfectly? What's your problem with somebody being funny?? smh

This is some video quality. Thanks for sharing this Kripp, I'd like to see this kind of videos in the future :)

Nice to hear that from you!! i had the same feeling with all that cards, with that long term changes from a partial strategical game to a fast a furious brainless win second turn. I could add another top10.

Since warsong was number 1 arguably starving buzzard should have at least made the list

I think Baku Warrior is also a problem now wait a second hear me out. The deck being present has shut off slower aggro or mid range decks from being decent in the meta the only viable one is even shaman which it wouldn’t be without corpse taker. That deck limited a huge amount of other interesting decks from being present in the meta. The only ones that can get through are hyper aggro that can win by stomping early. Also the deck brought a lot of cancerous combo decks back into meta which other decks that aren’t odd warrior have a decent time against but it’s still frustrating to play against.

@Thaumius

5 жыл бұрын

When I see a baku warrior as odd paly I am just tempted to concede turn 0.

I have a feeling Shudderwock will be a lot less of a problem when most of the cards needed for the otk are rotated out. Might even be a decent tech card then.

You know, the premise of infinite scaling and endgame of jade idol made that card my favourite. I felt good everytime i reached that stage of the game that you mention, when it gets broken after stuggling all game.

Me!

@neo6492

5 жыл бұрын

You

Don't worry Kripp. We aren't blind. You don't need to CAPS ON every title.

This has become a Kripp Podcast for me - love hearing your thoughts on cards while I’m commuting (no, I’m not looking at the screen - YT background play FTW!)

I actually remember Ben Brode saying in an interview that Patches is his favorite card from the Mean Streets expansion.

I’m so glad Jade Idol was on the list. I’ve only been playing hearthstone for a year (so I missed the pirate warrior days) but I can say that my least favorite deck to play against in all my time playing was Jade Druid. It pissed me off so much.

@MehYam2112

5 жыл бұрын

Jade Idol made me uninstall.

@yerfdogson9785

5 жыл бұрын

Pirate warrior was so bad that I stoped playing hearthstone for months then I came back to jade and now I have to deal with frost lich jainas broken ass easaly me least favorite card in the game

Top 10 most fun cards to play next!!!

@timetravel2390

5 жыл бұрын

There is so much fun to have with so many of the hearthstone cards that we would need way more than top 10. Too bad the meta obliterates them completly.

@Lauren-wc5zp

5 жыл бұрын

Lobstep Gaming evolution cards are the most fun

Man, the undertaker - zoo matchup was a nightmare. One card bled through the entire meta, and if it went unanswered on turn one, you were dead as shit. It was basically coin darkbomb/frostbolt/waraxe or die

I think part of the issue with Shudderwock is that there’s just so little counterplay at this point in standard. There’s no deathlords or dirty rats to pull it out, there’s no coldlight Oracle for everyone to attempt to mill, there’s really just nothing you can do to counter shudderwock, or any combo really

.....

YAHAAAR! Patches the pirate will not charge into battle!

Jade idol is one of my all time favorite druid cards but even I still questioned who’s bright idea it was to make it in the first place On a side note I miss the old fatigue druid with the Explosive Sheep+Poison Seeds combo , ahhh good times

I'd argue the difference between shudderwock and Yogg is that Shudderwock is a combo deck to an extent that you can try to just slam down with aggressive decks, and you know when someone is playing shudderwock. Yogg's effects vary between Auto win and Auto Lose, and don't really require much of any deck building to use.

*I'm not that bad am I?*

@Kripparrian

5 жыл бұрын

yes you are

@JakobundChino

5 жыл бұрын

You are not even Meta anymore

@galleryphoto3823

5 жыл бұрын

You are the ultimate cancer

@JakobundChino

5 жыл бұрын

DILL THE DOLL Trying to hit legend with him is cancer..

@shudderwock2347

5 жыл бұрын

@IamMe *yeah, it's hard to find time nowadays*

LOVED this video. I little stroll though nostalgic history of Hearthstone with a good portion of humour :D

The best way they could save warsong in my opinion is to make it's effect an Aura not a gift. So that way if you buffed your minions out of the three attack range they would lose charge. It would remake patron warrior a bit but it would give the opponent a chance to deal with the state.

First of all I agree on every single point in this Video with the exception of Baku!Baku and Gen are my favorite Card right now and I am playing since Naxxramas!I think that the mechanic of building an Odd/Even deck enabled so many cool combinations and decks, I can understand why there are people that dislike this deck but to put it in the 10 poorliest designed Cards ever is a little bit too much in my opinion! (Oh, I am not a natural speaker so sorry for my poor grammar)

think they could change the charge to rush and have warsong commander be playable again, if maybe just on the turn they are played, or if WC rush buff was a battlecry?

Oddly enough, I thought I'd see Reno Jackson here somewhere. Maybe it's not everywhere in wild, but I imagine it will eventually be in every deck once 29 excellent individual cards exist in a given class.

Looks more like a salt compilation.

@NerdOracle

5 жыл бұрын

that's what his channel is

You are lucky we are unlike Twitch who complain about lateness.

Thank you so much for the amazing video! All of you friends are super awesome!

I honestly think skulking Geist should be an honorable mention. While originally intended for jade idol, it now just makes games unwinable for decks like mechathun Druid against evenlock and big mage when otherwise, it would actually stand a decent chance .

Wait, no UI in this list ? Kripp, what are you doing ?

@NerdOracle

5 жыл бұрын

ui is just op, not badly designed

@KillerKilometers

5 жыл бұрын

Its not UI thats badly designed, its the ramp. Itd be op if it were 5 mana, and with alot of ramp, you get it very early. If not for ramp itd be a perfectly fine card

@pasty609

5 жыл бұрын

@@KillerKilometers They could definitely nerf it and still have it see play. A 5/5 deal 5 is worth about 7 mana. The remaining 3 mana draws 5 cards and gives you 5 armour. I know that balancing cards like this isn't great but I think there's a pretty big problem when a card is almost half the cost it should be. At least impactful cards like n'zoth require you to build a deck around them.

@alexanderr.c.6598

5 жыл бұрын

Smiling Cat it has too much value even for 10 mana, in arena is complete bs to play it.

@architectsaoghau2357

5 жыл бұрын

@@alexanderr.c.6598 UI has a value about 20 mana for 10, it's just horrible designed as the class that has the most profit out of it got it.

Preparing in here

how broken would it be to revert warsong commander to pre nerf but change it to Rush instead of Charge?

I always though implosion could be fixed by if it hits for 2 it summons 4, and if it hits 4, it summons 2

On the face of Patches the Pirate

..mage quest was also a solitaire experience, much like quest rogue still is

@NerdOracle

5 жыл бұрын

rogue quest's power, consistency, and repetitive gameplay is the thing that makes it a problem compared to rng-fest mage quest

@interessiertkeinen7227

5 жыл бұрын

For me it was mostly Iceblock that made the deck so unfun to play against.

@NerdOracle

5 жыл бұрын

@@interessiertkeinen7227 ice block was the core of the issue, yes. ice block provided exodia mages with a very consistent safety net; too consistent

@narev6569

5 жыл бұрын

And your sex life! Bazing!

Spreading Plague should definitely be on here (perhps Ultimate Infestation could have gotten an honourable mention)

I would have changed warsong to NOT grant charge anymore if 3 or more attack is applied to a minion. It would allow patron to work but NOT frothing.

6:22 you still instantly win the game in wild, cancer priest

Hey kripp its guys here

Why did I get chills when Kripp started talking about warsong commander?

Mind Control tech is pretty good, pretty simple actually because you just gotta know if you can control the board or can’t control it, place it immediately if you can

@Xx358hffy

5 жыл бұрын

Its not about it being bad, it can be amazing. He said that tbe design was ass because it was pure rng win condition

one card i absolutely hate is kingsbane. who the hell decided that a card that basically reads "turn your path to victory into a game of solitaire" would be any fun at all.

@amphiapple7890

5 жыл бұрын

Kenneth Okubo print a neutral card that silences weapons(somehow)

Rogue Spellstone. I hate it so much when they print nonsensical cards that have no support at all, especially as a Rogue player desperate for viable archetypes that aren't aggro.

@AdmiralStormy

5 жыл бұрын

I was going to say Mill, but then I remembered that they murdered Mill rogue in a dark alley. I should buy a Mill deck for MtG.

@NerdOracle

5 жыл бұрын

rogue had plenty of deathrattle support when old gods was standard

@ultimateabsol1268

5 жыл бұрын

What about... *V I O L E T HA Z E ! ? !*

@rainafallenhaze9191

5 жыл бұрын

@@AdmiralStormy Kingsbane mill rogue is very popular in wild.

@Lauren-wc5zp

5 жыл бұрын

Joseph Parastatidis it’s so rare idek what it does

Warsong commander is kinda like gadgetzan auctioneer, a basic card that gave us some of the best combo decks in the history of the game. Those were good times. Reckful and Kripp still had hair.

This was great. I was totally drawn in by the thumbnail

More lists!!

No Job for me this Video.

@dansaunders1655

5 жыл бұрын

What are you?

These are great please do more Kripoop

thanks Kripp lovely video very helpful to understand why these cards were in the list

If I got one dose of antidepressants for every time I saw a Kriperrino name in the comments I could cure my depression

@ThaGamingMisfit

5 жыл бұрын

Oh wow seems I'm not the only one !

Great video I know since I’ve watched it in its entirety.

@Killord101Adam

5 жыл бұрын

Fake news

@Dionisisdenis

5 жыл бұрын

Bad video.Baku and patches shouldnt be even close to this list.And he thinks defile is one of the best designed cards.LOL.

@NerdOracle

5 жыл бұрын

@@Dionisisdenis defile is a well designed card. strong, yes. but also skill testing and has a fair effect. it even damages both sides' minions. it was also unique in being one of the only cards in the game to "recast" itself under certain criteria

@Dionisisdenis

5 жыл бұрын

@@NerdOracle FAIR ?? FAIR????ARE YOU KIDDING ME?if the board clear was only in your opponents side all he had to do was miss a number.Now that all control warlocks can affect the outcome its even more unfair that it would ever be.You can never play around it and it will always fck u.Its designed in such a broken fckin way that you cant counterplay it at all.The recast is the most broken part of it as well.Now we have the echo which is actually a bit fair for board clears since you waste way more mana.Dont ever say such a big lie as that defile is fair.

@NerdOracle

5 жыл бұрын

@@Dionisisdenis warpath is the echo equivalent of defile, friend. and warpath is stronger than defile. turns out, choosing how many times you deal 1 to all is pretty valuable in most matchups, even if you can't go higher than 5 with warpath. if you want to weaken defile, you intentionally avoid playing into a lineup of minions with consecutive health, so the warlock is forced to waste additional damage or cards to get a good defile board. doing that alone is enough to put your warlock opponent behind, if you're a competent player, or have a decent deck. or both! so rejoice, rejoice! there is in fact some counterplay! and you're far too blinded by your salt, you mad man.

I would have loved some gameplay of the cards in the background. That would have been nuts

Along with cards that could randomly just win you the game if played early is Academic Espionage. The fact that it can get stupidly powerful cards like Dr. Boom (new) or stupidly bad cards (New Warsong Commander) from the same class just makes it both annoying to play and annoying to play against

Just started the video but I'm guessing troggs rule number 1

I really miss Ultimate Infestation on this list. The end all, be all 10 drop. Ramp -> Ramp -> Ramp -> UI -> oh I just won the game. Screw you!

@NerdOracle

5 жыл бұрын

ui is just op, not badly designed

@marcleblanc3225

5 жыл бұрын

@@NerdOracle that alone makes it poorly designed. You can UI on turn 6. Deal 5, draw 5, get 5 armor, get a 5/5 on turn 6. That's shield block, slightly worse fireball, worse sprint, and summon a 5/5 with just a tiny bit of help. I'm shocked it's not on the list.

@labertasche6073

5 жыл бұрын

@@marcleblanc3225 It is sprint+shild block+firelance portal basecly. Draw 5, gain 5, deal 5 and summon an 5

@NerdOracle

5 жыл бұрын

hypothetically, if you nerf ui in any fair convention (ie, not warsonging that damn thing) it will still be playable, still resemble the intended design, and be a more fair card. so, while 20 mana value on turn 8 is pretty fuckin op op, that's just an example of horrendous balance and oversight on the devs' parts. if the card were so atrociously designed that it couldn't be reasonably salvaged without effectively replacing the card(redesigning it), then the card isn't really poorly designed

@marcleblanc3225

5 жыл бұрын

@@NerdOracle It's not really relevant if it matches its original design. This wasn't about whether or not cards match their original design. It's about poorly designed cards. AI costs 3 to draw 2. Sprint is 7 to draw 4. So you can essentially add 2 mana per card drawn starting with AI. If you follow that design, which exists throughout hearthstone, UI's draw 5 alone costs 9 mana. Following this down to shield block, the armor portion of shield block is worth about 2 mana. So now we've got 11 mana worth of value IN ONE CARD for 10. We're already ahead of the game. Dealing 5 damage to a specific target is best matched by Lava Burst, which is 3 plus 2 overload, so call it 3.5. Fireball is 4 for 6, so this is somewhat consistent. We're now at 14.5 mana from a 10 mana spell in one card. Finding a 5/5 with no text is tricky, but in my opinion, the 5/5 with the lowest upside, not including obvious negative text, costs 5. This is 19.5 mana and four cards in one 10 mana card. That sounds like bad design. The only downside is you have to wait until turn 7 or 8 to play it. Doesn't sound that bad to me.

Jade idol and the rogue quest are my least favorite cards ever...when those were played it was over

I agree mostly with what you say about warsong commander but patron warrior with charging frothing berserker was my favorite deck of all time (to play ofc.)

Thought people hated Ice Block...

@socrateshighbourne9773

5 жыл бұрын

It was powerful but early hearthstone it was pretty needed, also this was the void of frostlich jaina, tbh the new paladin immune is probably going to bring some serious horror stories

I sadly much preferred playing against Jade Druid than playing against Frost Lich Jaina

I think we need a bigger list if such gems as Mysterious Challenger, Tuskarr Totemic, Tunnel Trogg, Undertaker, Starving Buzzard, Piloted Shredder, Mechwarper etc. didn't make it.

The "deck building" cards that were successful in the past like the singleton decks for Reno actually made you explore cards that wouldn't normally go in a deck. Baku and Genn serve as the opposite, and exclude half the cards from the game. I agree with Kripp here. I hope the next expansion will bring back the singleton mechanic...

"Start of Game" effects are cancer in all cases. Baku should have a battlecry (and a better body to make up for it).

@charliecrome207

5 жыл бұрын

It would be pretty much unplayable. It would just be a worse justicar

@rwcavallero4790

5 жыл бұрын

Actually Baku and Gen are (Sorry to disrespect you, Kripp) the best designed cards ever! It created so many archetypes and has such an amazing flaire to it where you build your deck in a very specific way so you would get a special effect! It is like playing a"build a deck with crazy rules'' Challenge but with the twist that the effect makes it actually viable!

@sylvia3351

5 жыл бұрын

@@rwcavallero4790 except odd paladin is cancer

@ratrujaga6499

5 жыл бұрын

Braxton Leister Yes but at least we can say hunter is worse...

@NivMizzet89

5 жыл бұрын

@@rwcavallero4790 They only created two archetypes (Odd & Even), and killed tons of other archetypes to do so. In terms of deck viability, Baku and Genn are utter killers of diversity. They didn't just make Odd/Even viable, they made it oppressive to the point where it's often the only real choice. While you're right that there is some charm to having certain building restrictions on decks, Baku/Genn are terrible ways to do so. Permanent bonuses from the start of every game are just too powerful. Even having Baku simply have 'Battlecry: You win the game if your deck contains no Even cards' would've been a better design.

Shudderwock = worst card ever. I usually just concede if it's obvious I'm playing ShudderShammy.

@daedum3177

5 жыл бұрын

I beat shudder more than lose to them with secret hunter.

@silvercro

5 жыл бұрын

There is always the possibility they could fuck it up or Grumble triggers first and you kill it then win.

@nicohalt3165

5 жыл бұрын

Rank 18 is rough

@KnownAsKenji

5 жыл бұрын

'wow, Yogg-Saron was a bad time, guys, let's never make that again, agreed?' *ONE YEAR LATER* 'guyz BEST IDEA EVER what if we made Yogg-Saron except you get to choose what it casts!' Glad it made the list.

@originalsinquirls1205

5 жыл бұрын

then you're probably losing 25% more than you should. a shame.

I remember when the shudderwock was leaked. I kept telling my buddies that it couldn’t possibly be real. That it would be too broken. Welp...

Could have changed Warsong Commander to "Give charge to a minion *if* it has 3 or less attack" because this would make it so if a minion got buffed past 3 it would lose the charge.

But Kripp! What about purify?

@GamePlayMetal

5 жыл бұрын

Purify was actually decent for a short period of time.

@Backstaber789

5 жыл бұрын

GamePlayMetal I agree except for arena 😂

@GamePlayMetal

5 жыл бұрын

@@Backstaber789 Wasn't the card excluded from Arena?

@jerryleganker4630

5 жыл бұрын

That actually worked surprisingly well in silence priest lmao

@MehYam2112

5 жыл бұрын

There was a place for Purify, after an expansion or two. At the time of release it was pure garbage, considering the shit spot priest was in at the time.

Kingsbane deserves a spot on the list.

I'd never undestand how blizzard didn't change warsong to something like southsea deckhand, were you give charge to your 3 or less attack minions, but if they suddenly go to 4 or more attack they lose it (like loosing your weapon). That would make it little less bad, but still can be used, in the time, with patron, or with others low cost low attack minions, but whatever, is blizzard.

I wonder why they still didnt' add 'charge + rush get 1 Att' to Warsong commander, not that crazy off a buff but helps a bit the rush warrior they seems to try to push

As I expected, it was not a list made with reason but with a lot of salt.

Branching path is balanced guys lmao guys come on just compare it to shield block you only get one more armor for mana lol come on guys

@otosuchomel5875

5 жыл бұрын

Just because it's OP doesn't mean it's bad design.

@evilpotatoman9436

5 жыл бұрын

dude it doesn't compare to these cards at all... these are the legends of shit... even UI cant make this list... but tunnel trog definitely should have made it

@JohnGAME

5 жыл бұрын

@@evilpotatoman9436 In my opinion Tunnel Trogg's effect design wasn't really flawed, it wasn't even anything new. The bad design part of Tunnel Trogg was the fact, that it's a 1 Mana 1/3 WITH a powerful effect. Although I agree the PTSD from this era still lingers around.

@Med1umentor

5 жыл бұрын

@@JohnGAME yeah, exactly. Same reason why mana wyrm was so powerful too. Well, i kinda think that the problem was in speed of ramping, if it was ramping just from the "overload" as the fact (like that 2/4 elemental), and not from ammount of overloaded crystals, it would be pretty balanced, still powerfull, but way more balanced, like mana wyrm.

@swiftdragonrider

5 жыл бұрын

@@evilpotatoman9436 people thinking trog should be on the list but not undertaker? i am confused

Notable mentions: Manawyrm (prenerf, chance to win turn 1), Undertaker (prenerf, chance to win turn 1), Flamewaker (too abusable), Tunnel Trogg (chance to win turn 1), Totem Golem (too good with Tunnel Trogg), Ultimate Infestation (too powerful), Dr. Boom (too much tempo back in the day and Boom Bots are too random), Spiteful Summoner (prenerf, too strong), Spreading Plague (Druid is not meant to counter wide boards), Justicar Trueheart (Control Warrior wins if drawn early, otherwise often loses), Mysterious Challenger (Draw 5 (1)-Cost Secrets and play them for free with a 6/6 body, seems balanced), Carnivorous Cuby (too much Deathrattle synergy), Flamewreathed Faceless (too many stats), Muster for Battle (too powerful), Ice Block (too powerful, since you can get additional ones through random effects)

This is a great list. Well done.

If two vegans are arguing, is it still considered beef?

I ALWAYS LOVED SUDDERWOCK HE LOVES TO TALK AND RYHME LIKE ME!!!