Mike Dilisio is the greatest possible addition to The Dice Tower

@adamV1P

2 жыл бұрын

Team Claw Town.

@kbegemotHD

2 жыл бұрын

yeeessss

@knitlobe1305

2 жыл бұрын

Zee is already too funny but this Mike guy can absolutely be in the same category.

@giochiamoconsaraeandrea1745

2 жыл бұрын

True!

@kidunderabridge

2 жыл бұрын

Agreed! Zee and Mike are my favourites, and they bounce off each other soooo well!

6 nimmt, does not mean "take 6" (that would be "nimm 6") but "the 6 takes". Does make sense as the 6th card takes the 5 others. Source: I am German.

@jonaskissling8343

2 жыл бұрын

Have you noticed some people say almost "nimmit"...

@nshaw1299

2 жыл бұрын

@akplmn I am groot

@JonathonV

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for confirming that. I assumed that was the case because the French version is called “6 qui prend”, which means “six who takes”.

@kyrrilcrepeele1353

2 жыл бұрын

People who don't speak german complaining about a german name. Have you heard Tom pronouce Prêt-a-porter?

@blackbot7113

2 жыл бұрын

That's what the guy in the crowd says as well, he corrects it to "Six takes".

Mike has seriously been the best addition to the dicetower. Always hilarious!

I thought a couple of Mike's picks were bananas but since Buonocore joined them, Mike's picks seem very logical.

For anybody wondering why the name of "Stone Age: Style is the Goal". It's a somewhat bad translation of the German title: "Stone Age: Mit Stil zum Ziel". A better translation would have been "Stone Age: Get to the Goal with Style".

@getyourgameon4935

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for that info. But that name is not appealing either. It's a title where you wonder if they were high when coming up with names.

@ramonosuke

2 жыл бұрын

Oof that sounds even worse

@grantofat6438

2 жыл бұрын

Lol. That is a terrible translation they made there.

@selfthinker

Жыл бұрын

The German name is slightly better because it rhymes.

Sad that no one caught Tom's "now you're just PANdering" pun about skillets - perfect!

@MrKeller13

2 жыл бұрын

Yep literally paused it right after that joke to come comment this. Died laughing at that.

@gutsyt123

2 жыл бұрын

It was so smooth and subtle, didn’t even notice it.

@gameon2553

2 жыл бұрын

Maybe they ignored it as it wasn't funny.

@bricelory9534

2 жыл бұрын

@@gameon2553 Obviously that's not the case. It is self-evidently funny. How dare you have a different sense of humor than I. Am offend. (Note sarcasm)

@gameon2553

2 жыл бұрын

@@bricelory9534 😁

Ironically I think naming it “Trading in the Mediterranean” would have made it sell better than “Trade on the Tigris.”

@Jammonstrald

2 жыл бұрын

100% agree. Trade on the Tigris sounds exactly as dry and forgettable as a publisher would worry over. Trading in the Mediterranean is at least tongue-in-cheek and SO on-the-nose dry as to be memorable and humorous.

In german we call the flower cowslip or primrose "Schlüsselblume". The literal translation would be indeed "Keyflower".

Sidereal confluence is clearly a pun on cosmic encounter. Cosmic = Sidereal, Encounter = Confluence.

The German name for "Abandon All Artichokes" is just the German word for artichokes. When I asked the person at my local gaming store whether they had artichokes, I got a long weirded out look, until I specified that I was talking about a card game of that name ...

@Stephen, you shouldn't complain about titles in a language you don't understand. "Schottentotten" is a play on "Schotton" and "Hottentotten" (a word that is a bit problematic, but that's beside the point). "6 Nimmt" doesn't mean "Take 6", but "6 Takes", as in the player who places the 6th card has to take all cards.

@h.4703

2 жыл бұрын

"Let's Make a Bus Route" is actually the Japanese name as well, there's no "missed translation." It's a fun and cute title.

@oclaline

2 жыл бұрын

Yes, I completely agree. That was so cringe and actually quite offensive.

@Phildiculous

2 жыл бұрын

@@h.4703 That's a little different since that's the English title. There's no misunderstanding about how another language works there, it just sounds weird when translated to English. What's so egregious about Buonocore's German choices were that he picked 3 titles in a language he seems to fundamentally misunderstand.

@pilotvc

2 жыл бұрын

But they obviously chose the title just because it rhymes. He doesn't like the name for that reason, bc it is lame like Aztack

@Dr_C_Smith

2 жыл бұрын

@@oclaline There’s a lot of cringe in this video. It’s pretty awful as far as I’m concerned.

Zee and Mike...man, those guys are so funny. And their lists are fantastic.

Mike's expression during the German Shepherd announcement is classic

@slickgoham

6 ай бұрын

no bro no

Hands down, Zee's list is flawless! XD Couldn't stop laughing...

@zandarrthegreat6790

2 жыл бұрын

10 thumbs up!

@randomjunk1977

2 жыл бұрын

Dragon Face is so simple but also incredibly dumb it might have been the funniest of the lot.

The audio quality here is phenomenal! Would love to see more of these in the future.

@JonoNZBoardGamer

2 жыл бұрын

I agree, often these live events have bad audio, but this was very good. Well done to the team behind the scenes

@suzannebrownbill9232

2 жыл бұрын

I wonder if GenCon spent extra time getting the audio right in that room because of GenCon Online

6 nimmt translates to ‘6 takes’, which is literally wjat happens in the game. If you play the 6th card you take the cards on the row

@DeyaViews

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah, it's good and descriptive! I am actually kind of annoyed that it got translated here as "Take 5!" which still kinda fits (you take five cards when you place the 6th), but it changes the meaning from the meaning of the original in a significant way. Plus there are other games called Take 5, so it's confusing.

@notsaved

2 жыл бұрын

that dude had literally all the worst takes in this list

@StyxTBuferd

2 жыл бұрын

@@notsaved By FAR. Some of them were really childish too. Like "Die Steben Spiegal". Come on, it's just German.

@Lines42

2 жыл бұрын

Jip. Came here to say the same. Someone tell Steven...

@ramonsohal2404

2 жыл бұрын

I was looking for this comment :D yes the missunderstood it...

"Sacred Heart" is a common Roman Catholic name for all kinds of places. As a kid, the RC kids in the neighborhood went to Sacred Heart Elementary.

@boardgameknight2791

2 жыл бұрын

We played Sacred Heart in high school - they always kicked our butts.

Actually i find americans's missinterpretation for GER: "Die Sieben Siegel" to EN "Die Steven Seagal" as hilarious and best of the list.

I'm sorry to say it, but Buonocore has the worst taste in game names. "Battle Line" better than "Schottentotten"!? I can understand that not everyone will like "Let's Make a Bus Route", but "Tokyo Bus System"? Really!? This is exactly the kind of mind that sees a game about getting the right gems to build a friendly magical golem to help you with chores, and thinks "this would be better if it was about trading spices" 😖😖😖

@koalabrownie

2 жыл бұрын

Century Spice Road does have about 3x as many rankings on BGG as Golem despite Golem coming out in the same year- I agree the Golem theme is much more appealing though

I’m a big Stone Age fan, but I can never take “Style Is The Goal” seriously.

@LookAtTheBacon

2 жыл бұрын

It was a German title before, where you have the nice rhyme, "Mit Stil zum Ziel". So they changed it and couldn't keep the wordplay alive. Too bad, I guess.

Let's Make a Bus Route is such a fun title - it is definitely a light-hearted name that draws me in. "Bus Route" or similar is beyond dry and boring to me. I am far more interested in "Let's Make a Bus Route" than "Bus Route" as a consumer.

@GKEK

2 жыл бұрын

totally agree! Let's Make a Bus Route is a GREAT title!

@mrskwid1

2 жыл бұрын

Super agree, especially considering there is also a game named bus.

@jackiejlw5493

2 жыл бұрын

What comes to mind for me is very boring school textbooks trying to sell learning like my high school French textbook series “Allons-y!” (Let’s go!). It’s a groan-inducing declaration of a ‘fun’ group activity. The game though is great and one of my favorite roll & writes.

@RaduStanculescu

2 жыл бұрын

Agreed, that is such a different name from all the "city name" or "generic activity" titles!

@Phildiculous

2 жыл бұрын

I think Bus Route is boring and really, we should all be able to agree that it's too dry a title for what that game is... but I think the appeal of "Let's Make a Bus Route" is partly that it falls into the format of a Japanese phrase with a stilted sounding English translation and there's a fair amount of charm there for a lot of people. But I think it's also fair to poke some fun at it.

I’m surprised none of them mentioned - Roland Wright - The Dice Game

@gameon2553

2 жыл бұрын

That's actually funny.

Vaselicious Fishes: Fashion Fist Fight: A Vicious Fishes game: A Friedman Friese collaboration

@Pelcurus

2 жыл бұрын

Nice

@gameon2553

2 жыл бұрын

Sexual perversions don't make great game titles.

If Zee and Mike did a stand up tour, I would buy tickets tomorrow.

@johchadow

2 жыл бұрын

Chris had me laughing pretty good with the ninja pooper: on the beach Larping joke.

@MrScrawnjuan

2 жыл бұрын

Zee is hilarious

This was one of my favorite Top 10s in a long time. Reminds me of the old Overrated One from way back. Classic.

While I’m in the middle of watching Zee roast MonsDRAWsity here, The Dice Tower just published a review from Bryan Drake on a game called “ExeCUTEtion.” I’m going to believe the timing isn’t a coincidence.

@threhane3492

2 жыл бұрын

You beat me to this comment! I noticed the same thing.

So so glad the audio turned out so well. Great work!

878-VIKINGS sounds like a number you would call to hire vikings.

21:16 Just to be clear calico is plain white, course fabric. It's not the kind of thing you'd use for quilting unless it's a very boring quilt; the cat breed being different as well is bizarre.

Zee's number #1, lol. When I got married I was introduced to Doubles Solitaire. I watched confused as I and 5 others were given decks of cards. Then we played "double" "solitaire" with six people. Basically, it was 6 people playing classic Solitaire but all piles were shared. I left that room a different human being.

Thank you Mike for the hilarious cover art!! Wad up Sam🙌🏽

Zee is a clear winner in my book, the last one, perfect :')

@labyfan1313

2 жыл бұрын

I agree. I think his first and last ones were the best.

I've always had problems with the name "No Thanks". Its a quick, easy little card game. However most people would rather say the joke and walk away from the table than sit down and play. Its name is sabotaging for my evening.

This is fantastic! The next list needs to be Bad Cover Art, in which Mike creates his own to remedy them. Thank you for entertaining me today!

Thanks for mentioning CVlizations! It was obviously publisher's decisions to make CV into a series. There were works on a 3rd game, but it got scrapped and eventually Filip published 3rd one called CV pocket. When the prototype was being developed it was under a very bland name "Tribes". I think the name did a lot of good for the quick boost of publicity initially, can't really assess the longterm pros and cons.

Santorini New York. I never realized how dumb that name was until the obvious was pointed out.

The sequel to Santorini should have been called San2rini.

@nshaw1299

2 жыл бұрын

And the sequel to schotten totten - schotten twotten

@marktaylor4962

2 жыл бұрын

San:2:rini (in New York)!

@koalabrownie

2 жыл бұрын

And the follow up, Santothreeni

@nshaw1299

2 жыл бұрын

@@koalabrownie lolz

@Coastercinder

2 жыл бұрын

This is getting out of hand 😄

Thanks for posting for those of us who could not make it to Gencon. Quality was fantastic!

This was one of the highlights of Gen Con 2021 for us.

That was so much fun to be at and listen to. What a great idea for a humorous top 10 - really kept the audience involved.

Watching Buonocore implode here is amazing. It's ALMOST harder to watch than Scott's Tots. Almost.

I think that Kingdomino is a great name. It's a clever mash-up of Kingdom and Domino. It's essentially a description of the game. You try to built your kingdom with domino-like pieces.

@nerzenjaeger

3 ай бұрын

Yes, and the market has spoken thusly.

The cover for Mike's dog-themed "German Shepherd" game should have been a kid in lederhosen.

@tinnitusrex9534

2 жыл бұрын

Bavaria isn't really the focus here.

@rekakristo1002

2 жыл бұрын

That was an example for writing one thing and showing another, like his point for calling the game calico, but putting a ginger cat on the cover.

@jonaskissling8343

2 жыл бұрын

@@tinnitusrex9534 oh dont get me started on the cover art of Cubitos...

@gameon2553

2 жыл бұрын

... with a crook.

@johansvanborg5870

2 жыл бұрын

No - with that cover it could be a game about herding sheep in the fields of Germany.

First thing I thought of for this was The Game and the next thing was Batman Love Letter. I then wondered if the Stone Age expansion would be on here if they allowed expansions, as well. I wasn't disappointed to see them all here. lol :-) Very fun list.

You are some humorous lads. Really enjoy the chemistry and good laughs.

Mike short burst of Human Beatbox (a la The Fat Boys) was just brilliant 😂

I forgot how much i liked these live big panel shows/lists. And haven't laughed so much in a while :D

also Sacred Heart hospitals (and churches) are named after one of the key Catholic devotions, puzzled how it seems like nobody knew that

@longtimeninerfan1309

2 жыл бұрын

Yes, refers to the heart of Jesus.

I am listening to this on the DTV Audio podcast and just needed to come on here to comment and say this is a great panel. Hilarious stuff! Wish I was there!

"Schotten Totten" is a word play on the German term "Hottentotte" - which has its own deeply problematic racial subtext . "6 nimmt" does not mean "take 6" - it means "6 takes", as in "6 takes it".

@TheFettuck

2 жыл бұрын

"Schotten Totten" also means "Pull Scots" which means that you pull cards with scottish people on them.

@tinnitusrex9534

2 жыл бұрын

@@TheFettuck - interesting. Haven't heard that one before.

@gameon2553

2 жыл бұрын

What racial subtext.

@blackbot7113

2 жыл бұрын

@@gameon2553 "Hottentotten" is a derogatory term used for Africans (originally south africans, but I don't think most people are aware). It's not used much anymore and according to Wikipedia it stems from making fun of the way they talk. But, for example, I remember the word "Hottentottenmusik" (hottentotten music) showing up in books and alike, usually spoken by elderly characters talking about "black" music with a clearly implied disdain. It's a bit like making a game about Samurai monkeys and calling it "Chinkanzees".

@razjml

Жыл бұрын

@@blackbot7113 Oh, so like Aztak? 👀 I would accept that name from a Mexican punk band from the 80s, maybe like a militant Chicanx student group, and no other context. Did not associate it with "Hottentot," Sartje Baartman and all that, because "Hottentotten" seems like a Germanization of the Dutch term. But you know, those German boardgame designers are famously sensitive to cultural contexts and history 😙🎶

Zee Garcia nailed it here, every time, with a sense of humor to boot. He's best when he's "light" and removes his "serious" edge, which can come across as nasty. Yes, as others say, Mike is excellent.. his nerdiness is his best quality, which he shouldn't hide... For sure, Mike is closest in taste to my own, followed by Zee. Great - you have to admit - to watch, great for the advance/popularity of board gaming..

Agree on both KDM and 878 Vikings, first one cause it's just cool sounding nonsense, and the second because it's confusing at a glance.

@mussoliniheadkick

2 жыл бұрын

In defense of KDM: the art, miniature series and general lore from Poots existed before the board game and is called Kingdom Death. The boardgame came later, and is named Kingdom Death: Monster to separate it from all the other Kingdom Death: stuff.

Imperial Settlers always reminds me of the Ubisoft videogame Settlers (especially the 2nd and 3rd installments). Extremely popular in Europe late 90s, the art was very much the same as IS and featured Romans, Asians and Egyptians. The name makes perfect sense in that context.

@blackbot7113

2 жыл бұрын

Small nitpick: Back then the publisher was not yet Ubisoft, but Blue Byte. Ubisoft only started to pick up steam in the early 00s. But yeah, that was my very first association as well.

Imperial Settlers is referring to the old video game "The Settlers", which was very popular in some countries (including, not surprisingly, Poland). I guess not in the US though :D

how about Atlantis Rising? It's actually the opposite that's happening

The guy going before Tom is the king of bad takes

The absolute worse name is 100% "Jurassic Parts" . Not only is it a cheap unoriginal wordplay of a movie title but it literally sounds like a sleezy porn movie title. I literally HATE that name lol. Normally i don't really think twice about game names but this one if just flat out rtarded. How did this game not make this list, much less #1 is beyond me.

Diced Coffee would've been a great name! "Coffee Colons"!!! Lol

Shocked Terraforming Mars: Venus Next wasn't even an honorable mention.

@unlimitedrabbit

2 жыл бұрын

Do you suppose the future Terraforming Mars: Uranus will alter its colon? ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

The sound and presentation is really well done for being at a Con. Thanks for publishing this!

Thanks so much for posting this! Quality is quite good!

Professor Pugnacious' Portfolio of Perils, Pugilism, and Perfidy: The Card Game of Victorian Combat I wasn’t expecting it to make any of the lists but I loathe that title.

I don't think "Imperial Settlers" is bad, but "Imperial Settlers: Empires of the North" was a HUGE mistake for a name! For one thing, it sounds like an expansion, when it's a totally different game. And it also ties the game to "the North", which they've already completely abandoned in the expansions (like Egyptian Kings). Just a terrible terrible name.

I agree that Kingdom Death: Monster is a bad title. I'd be more forgiving if it was a sequel to a game called Kingdom Death or something...

You don't necessarily take 5 cards in 6 Nimmt... you "take" cards once you are forced to play the sixth card in a row, hence the name - "At 6 cards, you take", or "The 6th card, takes!"

Zee's picks are always spot on for lists like these.

@atomiccritter6492

2 жыл бұрын

he absoluelty knocks it out the park in this video

@JorWat25

2 жыл бұрын

His knowledge of seemingly every game ever made really shines in lists like this. Everyone else is picking well-known games with names that are a little strange; Zee is able to find obscure games that actually have terrible names.

I can’t wait for the expansion: Duel: the Solo Game.

@nshaw1299

2 жыл бұрын

I was always hoping thr film 'The one' with Jet Li would have a sequel so we'll have a film called 'The one: two'

Zee is right on Majesty: For the Realm. I continually would mix that game up with Kashgar, Hadara, and Crown of Emara. The covers don't help the distinction at all either.

Sacred Heart is the hospital from the show Scrubs. You might not want to go there. They’ll make a musical number of your stool sample.

I have "Batman: Love Letter" I've always just called it "Love letter: Batman Edition". I mean, it doesn't say "Batman: Love Letter" on the box. Just "love letter" with a picture of Batman. (Also, mine didn't come with a bag).

Zee was in his bag for this, he was so animated

Flip a Bird is another case of colloquialism not crossing the ocean, but in the other direction. In English in Europe that offensive gesture is called giving someone the finger.

Tom is bitter that “The Castles of Mad King Ludwig” is ranked higher on BGG than is “Suburbia”. 🤣

Although its a game that basically no one has heard of, I'm partial to the game titled (Translated from Japanese from BGG): "A game where an enclosed short young lady, a perfect class representative, a slightly elder classy maid, a normal high school girl with the aura of a hamster, among others, try to win an unlucky-looking girl-faced butler with a debt of about 160 million yen. There's cross-dressing, too" That is the genuine title. It's apparently just essentially reverse Old Maid. You want to be the one with the Butler (old maid) at the end.

The expansion to Zee's #7 should be "Aztack: (colon) Montezuma's Revenge".

1:12:46 Actually, my nana and I used to each play Klondike Solitaire, simultaneously, on the opposite side of the table and we called it “Double Solitaire”.

'Captain Sonar' killed me... hahaha!! It's like, not bad... but it's also terrible and lazy at the same time. And also, do you, at some point, become 'Admiral Sonar' if you own multiple copies?

For the "too many colons" titles, it's not a board game or anything like that, but my favorite RPG book title has to be Vampire: the Masquerade 20th Anniversary Edition: The Making of the Art of the Children of the Revolution.

Dear Tom, for years we have had to listen to you complain about the poor naming system of the Valeria games. How could it NOT be on this list?!?!?!

How did no one make the joke....Poop: The Colon Game

Calico fabric is a plain-woven textile, made from half-processed and unbleached cotton fibres :)

If there are or were 878 Vikings, there would be no beer left on the wall!

Schottentotten is a wink at Hottentotten which was a tribe with a bad reputation in the middle ages. There is an expression that translates to "It looks as if we are at the Hottentotten" which means your place is a mess.

I'm surprised Nanty Narking didn't get included in this, as for as awful names go it has actively kept me from ever trying what is reputed to be a great re-implementation of the Ankh Morpork Discworld themed game.

I work in a board game webshop and when I saw the title of this top 10 I instantly thought about “the game” it is horrible to search for.

My first question was, "Why exactly 878 vikings?" #Buonocoregetstoomuchcrap

I vaguely remember that "Style is the Goal" was a cultural/translation mismatch. Like there is a common German play on words that translated to this literally, or it rhymed in German. Something like that and the company just translated it literally word for word.

@phoebica

2 жыл бұрын

The german title is "Mit Stil zum Ziel", so id indeed rhymes and just means, that you now have a new objective to win

TOP NOTCH AUDIO QUALITY.

Zee! Rap album when?! Laughed so hard :D

44:29 Zee with his skillet jokes 😆👌

Stephen Buonocore: Schottentotten is a word play on Hottentotten. de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hottentotten

I'm sorry but I know nothing about quilting and yet I looked at that box and immediately said, "Clearly 'Calico' must be a quilting term." Even if that wasn't enough of a clue, the game has various cat breeds, most of which you don't even use in a game. So if you are sitting there and all you see are tabbies, you SHOULD think, "Oh, MAYBE the name isn't referring to a cat." Furthermore, the game is 100% about quilting, it's not about the cats. You only get a cat if the quilting is done correctly. To say it's about cats is like saying it's about the buttons. Sadly, Button probably would've been a better name because people would've just thought the cat's name was Button. Yes, this annoys me and I don't know why. That said, the publishers sure didn't help things by not including anything in the rules about what 'Calico' actually refers to. Yes, some of us have the ability to acknowledge visual clues and can work Google, but still...

@rekakristo1002

2 жыл бұрын

I think why most peaple assume calico is about the cat, becouse that is the most dominant thing on the cover. The quilt is just the background.

If "Keyflower" is meant to be based on the Mayflower, they could've called it "Keylonialism".

@matthiasschulz3569

2 жыл бұрын

After Keyflower and Keyflow, I personally would like to see Keyflowest ...

@bricelory9534

2 жыл бұрын

@@matthiasschulz3569 which would be about selling floral arrangements with a slight lisp. Eh, eh? I'll see myself out...

@matthiasschulz3569

2 жыл бұрын

@@bricelory9534 You over-estimate my English skills. I didn't get the problem with Charty Party until veeeeeery much later (it is about not pronouncing it "sharty", isn't it?), so I'm lost wrt lisping floral arrangements :/

@bricelory9534

2 жыл бұрын

@@matthiasschulz3569 haha, no worries! To be honest, I'm still not fully sure what the exact problem with Charty Party is! Keyflowest would be a bit of a pun on Key-florist, if you said florist with a bit of a lisp, that's all I was meaning ☺️ a purposefully bad pun to take your joke a bit further.

@matthiasschulz3569

2 жыл бұрын

@@bricelory9534 Ahhhh, thanks for explaining :)

A few others come to mind: - Barenpark. Why not Bear Park? - Factory Funner - HEXplore It - World of Yo-Ho

@jungwirth984

6 ай бұрын

I'm sorry this is an old comment, but factory funner is an amazing name

For Kingdom Death the name of the game is actually Monster. Kingdom Death was/is a company that makes minis and this was their first (and to date only?) game.

Will watch later, but "The Game" really should be on the list...

Sidereal Confluence is a synonym for Cosmic Encounter, and the only reason that's the name is because Cosmic Encounter is kinda taken.

@StyxTBuferd

2 жыл бұрын

Somehow that makes the title worse for me lol

The appearance of Sam was awesome and highly appropriate. 😆

Really was a great turning point for me at my 1st GenCon. Will be back next year!!!!

I doubt Buonocore will ever read this, but I got your back on the 878 Vikings. It's not like 1775 Rebellion, because 1775 is more obvious and there's no "s" at the end of "Rebellion" to make it seem like a plural.

@marktaylor4962

2 жыл бұрын

1775 Rebellion may be more obvious to certain people but you go outside the US market and most people would not know why that date was significant. You're right on the other point though about it being singular and the fact that Rebellion is totally different to Vikings. Had it been 878 Invasion that would have been comparable.