Top 10 Reasons Cards Get Banned or Limited

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The Yugioh forbidden list has existed for nearly 20 years at this point. We've had 57 changes to the forbidden and limited cards since then. But instead of going over every individual card, today we'll be going over the biggest reasons why cards find themselves placed on the forbidden and limited list by Konami and why they stay there. Let's get started.
Script by Two Tone Shoes
Edited by Lily
├ The List
Intro: (0:00)
10: Problematic rules interactions: (0:21)
9: Consistency hits: (2:50)
8: Searching for other cards: (5:36)
7: Token creation: (8:53)
6: Burn damage: (12:24)
5: Hand ripping: (15:39)
4: Drawing cards: (18:33)
3: Sending to graveyard: (22:35)
2: Powerful floodgate: (26:20)
1: Special Summoning: (30:09)
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  • @shapesnatch1341
    @shapesnatch13419 ай бұрын

    No Hard Once Per Turn: "Allow me to introduce myself"

  • @loganm986

    @loganm986

    9 ай бұрын

    Purrely would like to know your location

  • @AnRuixuan

    @AnRuixuan

    9 ай бұрын

    This was my first thought. You could clear a whole lot of cards off the banlist by just putting a HOPT clause on them.

  • @fadeddragon123

    @fadeddragon123

    9 ай бұрын

    #1 way to get banned lol

  • @charlesbruch7489

    @charlesbruch7489

    9 ай бұрын

    A lack of HOPT isn’t a problem if the effect isn’t impactful enough.

  • @lordpaulphilippfernandez9904

    @lordpaulphilippfernandez9904

    9 ай бұрын

    @@charlesbruch7489 But it's a really good way to get yourself into the ban list.

  • @siftheadsdude
    @siftheadsdude9 ай бұрын

    An honorary mention definitely should be “to sell new cards/products”

  • @williamdrum9899

    @williamdrum9899

    9 ай бұрын

    That's more the reason why cards DON'T get banned

  • @siftheadsdude

    @siftheadsdude

    9 ай бұрын

    @@williamdrum9899 that’s a separate video, if anything lol. It works both ways

  • @NNRedemption

    @NNRedemption

    9 ай бұрын

    ​@@williamdrum9899dont forget the kozmo bannlist. They Destroyed all 5 Meta decks that kozmo ist playable

  • @takodachi1239

    @takodachi1239

    9 ай бұрын

    ban and never get unban to sell new cards/products

  • @NNRedemption

    @NNRedemption

    9 ай бұрын

    @@takodachi1239 which Card is never getting unbanned BC of new products lol. And cards which getting banned BC of new products ist exactly the Same Like hitting Meta decks BC the Player want a new Meta. Without the bannlist the Meta wohnt Change and WE would have a zoodiac meta

  • @the_og_alpha
    @the_og_alpha9 ай бұрын

    "The most effective way to kill your opponent is to burn them to death" I mean, that is true even without overpowered effect damage cards.

  • @unaffectedbycardeffects9152

    @unaffectedbycardeffects9152

    9 ай бұрын

    I'd argue that shooting them would be a better strategy. As a strong contender for second best I'd put using poison.

  • @thangnghiem4229

    @thangnghiem4229

    9 ай бұрын

    Instruction unclear. I'm now on the wanted list

  • @internetperson3436

    @internetperson3436

    7 ай бұрын

    ​@@thangnghiem4229You are now on the FBIs forbidden list

  • @williamdrum9899

    @williamdrum9899

    4 ай бұрын

    That's true even without cards in general

  • @billybobjoe1335
    @billybobjoe13359 ай бұрын

    I find it ironic that the reason Mirage of Nightmare was banned is the exact same way it was used in GX, i.e. destroying it to avoid its downside.

  • @Computer-STEM-NERD-903

    @Computer-STEM-NERD-903

    9 ай бұрын

    Totes… But tbf Protagonist Plot Armor BS is kinda why our favorite “Drop Out Boy” won duels thru digging for the right parts.. Da no ne

  • @ariavachier-lagravech.6910

    @ariavachier-lagravech.6910

    9 ай бұрын

    Honestly, mirage of nightmare is so versatile because discarding cards is something a lot of deck want to do so even not destroying it is also a viable option.

  • @brightpowder_cena

    @brightpowder_cena

    9 ай бұрын

    Imagine Mirage of Nightmare in Tear

  • @sammyhain

    @sammyhain

    9 ай бұрын

    @@brightpowder_cenathat and card of safe return off the list would make it tear 1 even with only one of each name

  • @brightpowder_cena

    @brightpowder_cena

    9 ай бұрын

    @samhain5990 there was a no banlist Tear list going around a while ago that didn't even use 1 Pot of Greed because Graceful/Mirage are so strong with Tear

  • @einzer5670
    @einzer56709 ай бұрын

    This top 10 is so good for new players, because they will know what and why a certain mechanic is so strong. This can give new players some degree of knowledge of how the game works and probably even make them can learn the game by themself

  • @ryanjames397

    @ryanjames397

    9 ай бұрын

    Or 30 year olds like me who are coming back to the game completely lost 😂

  • @naiko8412

    @naiko8412

    9 ай бұрын

    @@ryanjames397preach

  • @0mn0m15

    @0mn0m15

    9 ай бұрын

    ​@@ryanjames397My dad feels like that lol, but I'm proud of him mastering Fusion, Link, and Xyz whenever I play with him on Master Duel or help him in Ranked. He plans to practice more with Synchro Summoning as he just got a Blackwing structure deck (and he accidentally discovered Pendulum summoning himself lol).

  • @henrycalde1991

    @henrycalde1991

    6 ай бұрын

    I prefer the GOAT format. The new format where the game is over after 1-3 turns? No thanks.

  • @SystemYTP
    @SystemYTP9 ай бұрын

    Konami: Hand ripping cards are bad Also Konami: Say hello to Lovely Labrynth By the way, after the disappointment of yesterday's banlist, I would be curious what a banlist made by *you* would look like.

  • @Jyxero

    @Jyxero

    9 ай бұрын

    As Lab myself I hate Lovely for that, can be very unfair if opponent didn't draw the out (Aka any handtrap) Virus should be considered too, as not only puts a lingering floodgate on opponent, but gives hand info

  • @MistaOppritunity

    @MistaOppritunity

    9 ай бұрын

    I haven't played yugioh in a long LOOOOOONG time, but Konami has a long history of consistently making bad decisions. It's like they've never played a card game in their life, let alone their own game.

  • @0mn0m15

    @0mn0m15

    9 ай бұрын

    ​@@MistaOppritunityHonestly, I feel you. I just so happen to be a guy who plays decks I personally love, like Blue-Eyes and Speedroids. My dragons and toys like to frolic, so they bow to no one, not even the meta.

  • @sebarsht12

    @sebarsht12

    9 ай бұрын

    As said Shapesnatch in Rata's Red-Eyes video, "Alright, I've figured out how to fix the game, first we ban all the Tuner monsters then....."

  • @thegameplayer125
    @thegameplayer1259 ай бұрын

    it's always interesting seeing lists feature a lot of cards that were dominant from the original yugioh and seeing how they either devolved to the point of being useless or evolved to the point they are even more unstoppable now. it's always fun seeing how evolution of tcgs literally turn the oldest cards into literal paperweights or behemoths of their games

  • @Panium.

    @Panium.

    9 ай бұрын

    Solemn judgement is like THE card for this. Nobody used it when it released, the LP cost was seen as too much, then people just went - "Huh, stop ANYTHING? doesn't seem that bad, I'll use it" after a decade.

  • @ShredAimlessly92
    @ShredAimlessly929 ай бұрын

    The fact Soul Charge was legal as long as it was is just… mind boggling.

  • @thunderstruck560
    @thunderstruck5609 ай бұрын

    Konami card design steps: Step 1: make a card that is obviously broken Step 2: set it to the highest rarity Step 3: profit! Step 4: ban it Step 5: repeat!

  • @TwistedAlly
    @TwistedAlly9 ай бұрын

    I'm a tad surprised there wasn't like an honorary mention of TG Hyper Librarian regarding the "Draw cards" section. That monster has been limited since the first list after it was printed because a no limit "Draw 1 card whenever a Synchro Summon is performed" was absurdly good, especially in the age of its release when basically everyone ran Synchro Spam decks.

  • @shorelinefishing9213

    @shorelinefishing9213

    3 ай бұрын

    The original maxx C

  • @CaptainJLinebeck
    @CaptainJLinebeck9 ай бұрын

    Magical Scientist is so absurd that even with a hard once per turn it probably couldn't come off the banlist

  • @ShiningJudgment666

    @ShiningJudgment666

    9 ай бұрын

    Would easily be 2 Link Materials so it certainly wouldn't. The only commitment would be an Extra Deck space for an appropriate Fusion monster. It would have to be given an added downside on top of that like no other Special Summoning for that turn.

  • @nyecrozier8663

    @nyecrozier8663

    9 ай бұрын

    Even some of the old DM-era Fusion monsters would probably still be a handful today if they could be cheated out for a mere 1000 LP by Magical Scientist. Ryu-Senshi or Dark Baler the Terrible locking your opponent out of Normal Traps/Normal Spells? That's damn near an instant win against some decks.

  • @leebulger7112

    @leebulger7112

    2 ай бұрын

    ​@@nyecrozier8663I sometimes imagine Magical Scientist and Dark Strike Fighter working together for a OTK.

  • @AlexanderMadolche
    @AlexanderMadolche9 ай бұрын

    This was one of your best videos so far, well done. What a great topic and great execution by you. Honorable mention to Zenmaighty for hand ripping. The wind up loop left an emotional scar on me 😂

  • @Hurricane1990
    @Hurricane19909 ай бұрын

    You forgot the true reason for the banlist: to sell more product lol.

  • @AlexisStreams
    @AlexisStreams9 ай бұрын

    Card Of Safe return was very useful in my evil zombies deck where i kept bringing back plague spreader zombie whilst also decking the opponent out with soul absorbing bone tower

  • @Meowvela
    @Meowvela9 ай бұрын

    Ooh, this is actually super relevant to some stuff I'm writing. It's an article about the Forbidden List, cards that have left it, and cards that likely never can

  • @ryanrandolphjr779
    @ryanrandolphjr7799 ай бұрын

    I literally named out this list and what I thought would be on it. I got most of the list right and even named out the cards featured. Thanks for the great content!

  • @dominickangelo4319
    @dominickangelo43199 ай бұрын

    Absolutely hated Last Turn… if you activated that while you had Jowgen the Spiritualist on the field you essentially won by default since your opponent couldn’t special summon.

  • @roncerjani9063

    @roncerjani9063

    9 ай бұрын

    They could negate the effects of the summoned monsters, but again the whole thing would become a matter of who has the buffiest monster in their deck. There's really no way to save this card.

  • @neroneroren6788
    @neroneroren67889 ай бұрын

    Special Summon lost the meaning about being Special as years passes

  • @AlejandroRodolfoMendez

    @AlejandroRodolfoMendez

    9 ай бұрын

    Honestly it's extra summon now

  • @mathewricafrente5984

    @mathewricafrente5984

    9 ай бұрын

    Special Summons in Yugioh are about as special as a participation ribbon in a competition

  • @xCorvus7x

    @xCorvus7x

    9 ай бұрын

    Eh, the vast majority of them are facilitated by card effects, i. e. the player cannot just perform them at a whim but has to meet some requirement, unlike Normal summons.

  • @megarockman75

    @megarockman75

    6 ай бұрын

    Personally, Konami should change the rule were only allow to special summon 5 monsters per turn. that way it limits the combo abuse from the opponent. so the second player can have a fighting chance instead of being overwhelm with too many negate effects. it seem unfair, but the way the game is going, i say let be fair.

  • @grantswallow1256
    @grantswallow12569 ай бұрын

    I feel that searching is another type of consistency hit. That’s really all searching is, and you gave the example yourself (“make the limitation of powerful warriors like Armageddon Knight and Dark Grepher trivial” by giving more consistent access to them). Overall amazing vid, though, this is a super useful resource especially for people who maybe haven’t been around as long or took a break and are just coming back

  • @mavericklysander
    @mavericklysander9 ай бұрын

    This episode highlights Yugioh's issues with futureproofing, especially regarding new summoning methods. Scapegoat is a perfect example of this. When it was printed, you couldn't use them for tributing, ritual summoning sucked so it could use the leg up and they were irrelevant to fusion summoning. Then as the video said, synchro was implemented and the card was suddenly way more useful.

  • @roncerjani9063

    @roncerjani9063

    9 ай бұрын

    I'd say it highlights their problem with the lack of set rotation. They have 10000+ different cards in the game, you can't futureproof every single one of them.

  • @mavericklysander

    @mavericklysander

    9 ай бұрын

    @@roncerjani9063 Amen to that! If you actually rotate your sets, then you just confine the nightmarish future interactions to a legacy-style format, rather than having your standard tournaments descend into tier zero horror shows every few years.

  • @LazurBeemz

    @LazurBeemz

    9 ай бұрын

    ​@@mavericklysanderwhat old-school cards enabled Tearlaments, again? Or was the culprit the Tears, Ishizh fairies, and Bystials?

  • @CaptainJLinebeck

    @CaptainJLinebeck

    9 ай бұрын

    @@mavericklysander unfortunately the current treatment and general unpopularity of Standard in MtG hasn't been a great showcase of rotation formats

  • @TheNewRidore

    @TheNewRidore

    9 ай бұрын

    ​@@CaptainJLinebeck to be fair the reason why Standard in mtg is losing players is because the average deck cost for standard has gone way up and players don't want to spend the money on a format that makes a deck obsolete after a year... I think its too early to tell if the new rotation system is going to be a good fix it has just begun now.

  • @garrettsims4601
    @garrettsims46019 ай бұрын

    Love these videos! I usually watch them while I am eating, so maybe a top 10 food-based cards?

  • @samuelheddle
    @samuelheddle9 ай бұрын

    Re: OCG surrender rules, I believe the OCG surrender rules only applied to certain matches, like ones which were live streamed, because of the idea that they don't want streamed matches conceded. This was a point of contention because people complained that players had to play out lost matches on camera, which was boring. I think in most OCG matches you might actually play, conceding is allowed.

  • @CrnaStrela

    @CrnaStrela

    9 ай бұрын

    That's why conceding require judge's consent. Judge would see the board state and both player's hand and decide whether it is ok to surrender or not. Though to be fair it's probably some regional and higher only, local and some regionals still allowing surrender at any point without Judge's consent.

  • @roncerjani9063

    @roncerjani9063

    9 ай бұрын

    ​@@CrnaStrelaStill though, couldn't the losing player just end his turn without playing anything? I mean, the judge can be very knowledgeable and all, but he doesn't know my own deck better than me. If I think I'm hopeless, I'm hopeless.

  • @kevenrules
    @kevenrules9 ай бұрын

    Im never going to not be pissed about Azathot being banned. I had a whole old god themed deck wasnt using the Phantom Knight rank up because i wanted the other effects too. And about a week before a local qualifying tournament it gets banned. So i pissed people off with Krawlers that no one knew how to defend against because all the Yugitubers said they sucked

  • @gravekeepersven82

    @gravekeepersven82

    9 ай бұрын

    Cards that say you cant play the game ever this duel shouldn't be allowed to exist once they're found out to be a major problem like Zexal and VFD was.

  • @maximilianhenzerling7027
    @maximilianhenzerling70279 ай бұрын

    Wow. Nice Idea! Also smooth präsentation.

  • @ERenato
    @ERenato9 ай бұрын

    Possibly one of your best Yugioh related video ever Made.

  • @RyuNarukami
    @RyuNarukami9 ай бұрын

    Good video Logs. Hope you feel better soon. Lily, great editing as usual.

  • @thangnghiem4229
    @thangnghiem42299 ай бұрын

    In short, there will be five category in term of ban list: Cards cause ruling confusion/break the game. Cards lengthen the game (including those LP gain in WORLD banlist) Cards cause infinity loops Cards plus for us or minus our opponent Floodgate (including boss monster)

  • @irfanhaider1930
    @irfanhaider19309 ай бұрын

    This is my fave video from this channel in a while

  • @ButFirstHeLitItOnFire
    @ButFirstHeLitItOnFire9 ай бұрын

    18:57 Idea for a counter card to players adding to many cards to their hand: _Accumulation of Greed_ (EARTH) Level 1 Rock/Tuner/Effect _(Quick Effect) You can normal summon/set this card from your hand if your opponent adds to their hand or excavates any number of cards. Unaffected by the effects of cards from your opponent’s hand. Each time your opponent adds to their hand or excavates a card, increase this cards ATK/DEF by 500, and place 1 Greed Counter on it. (Quick Effect) You can apply each of the following effects of “Accumulation of Greed” once per turn:_ ⚪️Increase your LP by equal to all Greed Counters on the field X1000. ⚪️Transfer 4 Greed Counters from this card onto a card on the field: That card’s effects are negated while it has any Greed counters on it. ⚪️Remove 4 Greed Counters from this card: Shuffle 1 card that is banished or the the GY into it’s owners deck. ATK/0 DEF/0

  • @mcmisterhd1920

    @mcmisterhd1920

    9 ай бұрын

    Droll and Lockbird would like to know your location

  • @ButFirstHeLitItOnFire

    @ButFirstHeLitItOnFire

    9 ай бұрын

    @@mcmisterhd1920 I always preferred cards that make your opponent _regret_ playing a certain way rather than just just locking them out of it.

  • @mcmisterhd1920

    @mcmisterhd1920

    9 ай бұрын

    @@ButFirstHeLitItOnFire That makes sense, maybe remove the counter requirement and make it so you can use one if its effects (negate a face up card or shuffle a card back into the deck) each time your opponent adds without the once per turn. The 4 counter requirement is a bit harsh and I dont think that even decks like dark world would care since you just search your engine pieces and then when youve got everything, only then make your bosses you dont want to be negated. That way it would be a decent tech against purrely. Right now, Im not sure I would side deck it.

  • @ButFirstHeLitItOnFire

    @ButFirstHeLitItOnFire

    9 ай бұрын

    @@mcmisterhd1920 Ok, then let me just gut the counter part and… _Accumulation of Greed_ (EARTH) Level 1 Rock/Tuner/Effect _(Quick Effect) You can normal summon/set this card from your hand if your opponent adds to their hand or excavates any number of cards. Unaffected by the effects of cards from your opponent’s hand. Gains 500 ATK/DEF for each card your opponent adds to their hand or excavates. Each time your opponent adds to their hand or excavates a card, you can apply 1 of the following effects:_ ⚪️Increase your LP by 1000. ⚪️Target 1 card on the field: That target’s effects are negated until the end of the next phase. ⚪️Shuffle 1 card that is banished or the the GY into it’s owners deck. ATK/0 DEF/0 THERE, took out the counter and HOPT parts (and made the negate choice temporary to compensate for the extra ease of access.)

  • @williamfalls
    @williamfalls9 ай бұрын

    Konami introducing an archetype that uses future banned machanics to sell a pack of cards for 6 months: 😊 Konami when old cards become meta, because of the new busted cards: 😮 "Banned!"

  • @XionSteel
    @XionSteel9 ай бұрын

    Mind Crush was also a fairly annoying hand rip tech in during goat since good hand traps were slowly making their way into the game and searchers were everywhere, you sometimes never went through a game without searching for a key card for your deck only for you to lose it. Worst case if they knew what you were playing they would just take a guess if you didn't search for anything specific, they would assume the card you need is already in your hand and sometimes be right, worst case they guess wrong and get to see your hand. For special summoning, Cyber-stein is kind of a good example of why we can have nice things, Komani did try to limit to 1, only for sprite, tearlement and super heavy samurais to be perfectly ok to pay 5k of their life points to bring out the Last Warrior from Another Planet just to have another way to flood gate. If it wasn't that then they would find other ways to abuse it so the end result is that Stein is much too degenerate to ever exist without an errata to make it virtually unplayable.

  • @tripleaaabattery8480

    @tripleaaabattery8480

    5 ай бұрын

    In cyber steins case, it was always either floodgates like last warrior, or a dumb ftk that essentially turned cyber stein into magical scientist.

  • @retropipes8863
    @retropipes88639 ай бұрын

    Thanks, excellent video!

  • @baronobeefdip8075
    @baronobeefdip80759 ай бұрын

    Just wanna say I feel like "once per turn" effects should be called semi-limited effects and "hard once per turn" should be called limited effects. Once per duel can stay like that because it's pretty rare.

  • @shapular

    @shapular

    7 ай бұрын

    Semi-limited effect makes it sound like you can use it twice.

  • @alanfinck5595
    @alanfinck55959 ай бұрын

    while on the subject of banned cards here is a suggestion: Top 10 cards with the most ban/limited list changes (like sky striker).

  • @MarioLopez-xs3vc
    @MarioLopez-xs3vc9 ай бұрын

    It's funny how much less the OCG cares about draw power than the TCG, probably because of how ridiculous something like Maxx "C" is compared to almost any other draw card, assuming you're blinding second against the average summon combo deck. Or can rebuild off a single card, preventing those same decks from going second against any of them that manages to go first without first getting hit by it.

  • @Darkkefka
    @Darkkefka5 ай бұрын

    You forgot the biggest corporate of all, money! They have been many times that cards get limited or banned just stop people from playing it to forced them to buy new cards.

  • @shigesohma
    @shigesohma9 ай бұрын

    I hate the whole consistency hit as a form of balance because it doesn't address the problem of a deck being basically unstoppable if u don't start with hand traps opening turn. I feel that hitting the insane number of end board generic negates/interrupts is the better way to go.

  • @darkwolf9637
    @darkwolf96379 ай бұрын

    It's still so wild to me that the ocg just doesn't allow you to surrender even when you've obviously lost.

  • @tripleaaabattery8480

    @tripleaaabattery8480

    5 ай бұрын

    Now imagine this in a no-banlist tournament in the ocg With Victory Dragon allowed

  • @runningoncylinders3829
    @runningoncylinders38299 ай бұрын

    Unexpected boost in power of an older card in a newer deck. Often times this is the fault of the newer card, but it falls into being “too new” to hit. I like seeing cards move off their bans and limits, sometimes just needs errata, don’t get me started on the just errata it hopt club.

  • @youtubeuniversity3638
    @youtubeuniversity36389 ай бұрын

    17:02 "So as long as there were more than three turns in a game" is just. So depressing.

  • @TheReaperofHades
    @TheReaperofHades9 ай бұрын

    Honorable mentions goes to Wind-Up Hunter for being able to rip your hand on turn 1.

  • @Blueberry_Muffins
    @Blueberry_Muffins9 ай бұрын

    I can’t believe Konami has the audacity to make cards that can be “Once per chain” those should definitely not exist. One per turn should be standard across the board.

  • @sandradee4331

    @sandradee4331

    9 ай бұрын

    Even multiple once per turn cards are in the ban list. The standard should be a hard once per duel! :P

  • @chazconkey5888

    @chazconkey5888

    9 ай бұрын

    But then my opponent can just use all of their overpowered cards every duel. It should be a once per day restriction

  • @TheSleepyKuma
    @TheSleepyKuma9 ай бұрын

    I really like the background music. Did you make it yourself?

  • @justsomefellow3604
    @justsomefellow36049 ай бұрын

    I like all the creative ways you came up with to say: sent to the ban list

  • @alonsoarana5307
    @alonsoarana53079 ай бұрын

    Number one: to sell new product

  • @namenlosNamenlos
    @namenlosNamenlos9 ай бұрын

    Thanks!

  • @nycnow811
    @nycnow8117 ай бұрын

    I love the delinquent duo and the forceful sentry artwork, it's super iconic

  • @nayemurrahman1791
    @nayemurrahman17919 ай бұрын

    Ideas for next top 10 cards: Top ten Dragon cards Top ten ancient gear cards Top ten magican cards Top ten fusion cards Top ten archetypes

  • @brotherhood7596
    @brotherhood75969 ай бұрын

    Top 10 cards better in real life than in the anime/manga

  • @GhostofCerberus
    @GhostofCerberus9 ай бұрын

    where is selling new product?

  • @bryanbarton8610
    @bryanbarton86109 ай бұрын

    The number 1 reason they ban cards is so people have to buy the next new meta deck because their old one is now useless 😂

  • @ant-onemusic444

    @ant-onemusic444

    9 ай бұрын

    Not really, I'd argue that it's the opposite, some cards don't get banned because they still have to sell them

  • @aceclover758

    @aceclover758

    9 ай бұрын

    What a false original comment Same people crying that Tears for limited

  • @Mr.HootieHooRDK
    @Mr.HootieHooRDK9 ай бұрын

    The best Yu-Gi-Oh decks in Yu-Gi-Oh DX video games! Can you make that list please next

  • @blackjacksetzer7748
    @blackjacksetzer77489 ай бұрын

    number 0: konami greed

  • @dalegary450
    @dalegary4509 ай бұрын

    It's hard not to hate this game for three reasons. The first is that they make new game features/cards that can't play because of older cards, and rather than simply redesigning those new individual features/cards before release so that they don't conflict with older cards they ban the older cards. The second reason I've grown to despise this game is that if something says you can return two monsters to their owner's hands when it is flipped I've noticed a lot of people like to say that face-down cards don't flip and are are simply removed from the field. There was nothing in the first few generations of the game that clearly established that was the case. I don't know if that has since changed. This would be related to Penguin Soldier's effect. Now according to newer cards like Penguin Brave, you can't target face down cards with any sort of effect. Now, if a card is face down and hit with an effect the result one would expect is that card would be flipped because how else can the players determine if it has any effects to use in response. Penguin Brave can counter that but it suggests that cards can, in theory, respond to effects. This is where I introduce my third and last dislike of the game, the players. This collective group of morons will always try to cheat by misinterpreting the rules so that whatever you use can't be applied to them and because the rules include so many vague concepts and new weird features a lot of the judges for this situation don't seem to be familiar with it so the judges just assume that these flip cards can't be activated due to effects of other cards.

  • @Vaniity_Velvet
    @Vaniity_Velvet5 ай бұрын

    Victory Dragon is an example of someone at Konami not thinking. There are lot of Joke Cards in Yu-Gi-Oh and most of them have it clearly stated they can not be used in Tournaments. Hell, there are cards that simply just very rare reskins that can't be used in Tournaments for whatever reason. Yet, Victory Dragon is the one card they forgot about. Only thing I can figure is maybe it's a Translation thing.

  • @DagothUr2002
    @DagothUr20029 ай бұрын

    I want to ask, what is the name of the background song or what is the name of the artist who composed it? Great video, Nerevar

  • @lilykoizumi

    @lilykoizumi

    9 ай бұрын

    Went back to check for you and the bgm i used for this is called “Misu - Calm Shores”

  • @DagothUr2002

    @DagothUr2002

    9 ай бұрын

    @@lilykoizumi That's indeed the song, I really appreciate. Thank you.

  • @13KuriMaster
    @13KuriMaster9 ай бұрын

    Another detail on how Special summoning fuels the other reasons on the list is that without being able to special summon over a dozen monsters with ease, cards like Cannon Soldier, Mass Diver, and the like would not be able to get the fuel needed for their burn OTKs.

  • @DigiTism
    @DigiTism9 ай бұрын

    If number one isn’t, “Some bigwigs in Konami simply don’t know how the game really works so arbitrarily decides to hit/keep a card on the list” I’m going to stand on the edge of a castle and threaten to jump if you don’t make that number one.

  • @sandradee4331

    @sandradee4331

    9 ай бұрын

    Please livestream this, I wanna see 😇

  • @TraumaCenter13
    @TraumaCenter139 ай бұрын

    Another reason why Konami ban or limited cards, so they can sell new OP archetypes and alternative cards.

  • @ladyriethegoldendelmo5441

    @ladyriethegoldendelmo5441

    9 ай бұрын

    wouldnt they make more money if they just nerf them enough like magical scientist and good enough to be playable a once per a turn effect. I am sure a lot of people will buy them like hotcakes. think of how many people would do to get it. like make it an ultra rare and once per a turn and bam money lol

  • @OmegaVideoGameGod

    @OmegaVideoGameGod

    9 ай бұрын

    They also rig the odds on packs so people will buy more gems, I work in advertising, these companies pay people top dollar coming up with math that can screw the entire game’s flow reward and limitations.

  • @arrownoir
    @arrownoir9 ай бұрын

    It’s head scratching why Maxx C is still legal in Masterduel. Whoever designed it must have incriminating evidence against Konami execs.

  • @ophilipp7292
    @ophilipp72929 ай бұрын

    i recall so many of these cards from playing as a kid back before the banlist was a thing.... was proud as heck of myself for figuring out the yata-lock myself....fuck im old xD

  • @EvilLordDeimos
    @EvilLordDeimos9 ай бұрын

    I believe fiber jar can come off at 1 like cyber jar can. It doesn't reset LP and it doesn't affect the banished zone at all. A field and grave reset with a 5 draw doesn't have the punch it once had when GY effects banish for cost.

  • @Amsel_616

    @Amsel_616

    9 ай бұрын

    You'll also have any card that is an Xyz material in the graveyard when Fiber Jar resolves

  • @aceclover758
    @aceclover7589 ай бұрын

    Bastion is very strong npc in legacy of the duelist mainly due to lv eater With it, he can swarm his field despite not using link monsters

  • @JJSquirtle
    @JJSquirtle9 ай бұрын

    18:08 shoutout to Omega's partner in crime: Trishula. Almost nothing is as painful as watching someone setup a loop with (for example) infernity, summoning trishula 4 or 5 times by bouncing copies back to the extra and then ending on Omega, where during the standby phase, you would rip their top deck out of their hand as well

  • @popstarchamp
    @popstarchamp9 ай бұрын

    Another issue could be a Towers monster being too insurmountable for the current power level of the game. With Link Monsters around Apoqliphort Towers isn't as big of an issue anymore but it used to be much harder for people to deal with

  • @LazurBeemz

    @LazurBeemz

    9 ай бұрын

    Aside from Towers, what else got hit for being too big of a bungus? Dragoon in the OCG, I guess?

  • @davemarinas3259

    @davemarinas3259

    8 ай бұрын

    Rhongo is also a towers@@LazurBeemz

  • @fanficrocks
    @fanficrocks9 ай бұрын

    Topic idea: skills that can be brought in from other games like magic the gathering etc and skills that you can learn in Yu-Gi-Oh and can be crossed over into other games, like magic?

  • @AlX-Ander
    @AlX-Ander9 ай бұрын

    I will be forever mad at them limiting Macro and Fissure solely because they wanted to keep making overpowered GY effects.

  • @Greg501-
    @Greg501-9 ай бұрын

    I see this was recorded before the list came out yesterday...

  • @drunksaintloser195
    @drunksaintloser1959 ай бұрын

    I think I'm the only one who ever got victory dragons effect off in my area, I played it when I really wanted to have a cig during locals, so victory dragon got me away from the tables for a break. The guy was kinda dumb founded on what happened and needed the players around us to explain, this was like 2005 or 6 though and the card was fresh and the whole surrender cop out wasn't a know strategy against it yet

  • @SmugLookingBarrel
    @SmugLookingBarrel9 ай бұрын

    In my eyes, the number 1 reason that a card is banned isn't for special summoning, but rather for cheating resource requirements. Special summoning is a thing that happens all the time, but monsters are designed to have costs in the forms of cards needed to bring them out, using once per turn things like a normal summon, or variance, so being able to cheat any of those tends to get a card banned. Cards that can summon monsters from deck thus removing variance and card costs? Probably banned. Cards that can loop multiple times thus ignoring once per turn restrictions on monster summoning? Probably banned. Cards that can special summon monsters ignoring their summoning conditions? Probably banned.

  • @roncerjani9063

    @roncerjani9063

    9 ай бұрын

    My number 1 is cards, especially those from Extra Deck that are way too generic without needing to. The best ED cards like Apollousa, Borrel Sword, Talker etc are all free for all, and not tied to their archetypes. It makes every Extra Deck look like a plagiature of each other, and help spread unwanted issues of the game, like board of negates, unbreakable boards and 1 turn long games.

  • @Dude-do8vo
    @Dude-do8vo9 ай бұрын

    I would have also said because the card didn't have a hard once per turn...many cards that are broken/abused could be fixed to some degree by simply giving them a hard once per turn

  • @Lagbeard
    @Lagbeard3 ай бұрын

    Searchers are essentially at their worst just a -1 to the deck size. And if you can select the card you take, which you usually can, you're doubling your draw chances for that card as you can either draw it or it's searcher.

  • @plinioaraujo3949
    @plinioaraujo39499 ай бұрын

    is there a video explaining what combos made cards being banned?

  • @wilkobadberg5272
    @wilkobadberg52729 ай бұрын

    This List was not exactly what I expected to be honest. I thought we see Reasons like "too strong for its time" (like Raigeki or Change of Heart during the early days of Yugioh) or "create infinite Loops" (like Butterfly Dagger Elmer or Wind Up Hunter / Zenmaity). I do agree that many infinite loops going hand in hand with Things on your List though (burn damage, Drawing Cards, Hand Ripping and so on...)

  • @Anywaz
    @Anywaz9 ай бұрын

    Funnily enough, the reason Last Turn is banned, is not that it's complicated to resolve, but for the same reason as Self-Destruct Button: it's far too easy to cause and loop draws to drag out matches with it.

  • @syrelian

    @syrelian

    9 ай бұрын

    Its that AND a rulings nightmare, its just that most of those rulings lead to "and then a draw happens" because its things like monsters immune to effects remaining on the board, breaking the wincon, or cards sent to the GY triggering effects that further break things, and breaking the wincon, and generally the wincon being nonfunctional cause it doesn't lock the gamestate down hard enough

  • @sandradee4331

    @sandradee4331

    9 ай бұрын

    It's 100% the ruling problems, the reason you cited is just one of many scenarios of how complicated to resolve the card's effects.

  • @syrelian

    @syrelian

    9 ай бұрын

    @@sandradee4331 Considering Self-Destruct Button and also the errata to Ring of Destruction, Draw inducing effects are also generally frowned on

  • @Anywaz

    @Anywaz

    9 ай бұрын

    @@sandradee4331 It's not complicated to resolve the card at all, though. The only question (and it comes from the card never getting PSCT) is whether it targets your own monster initially. Other than that, you pick one of your monsters, send everything else to the GY, your opponent summons a monster from deck and then the two monsters chosen for the card's effect fight. The player whose chosen monster is the sole card on the field in the end phase wins. In any case that there is not exactly one of the two chosen monsters on the field in the end phase, the game ends in a draw. There are literally no ruling issues with thr card, to a point where it was implemented in all the simulators even back when the card was printed. There are cards that were omitted from simulators because of being too complicated to implement at the time, Last Turn was never one of them.

  • @sandradee4331

    @sandradee4331

    9 ай бұрын

    @@Anywaz Good luck trying to convince that to veteran players and judges, lol.

  • @agreatoldone8902
    @agreatoldone89029 ай бұрын

    I love this channel

  • @TheD19
    @TheD199 ай бұрын

    Request and Suggestion Top 10 video "Top 10 Card Stop All Effect and/or Activation During Battle Phase" like "Archfiend Black Skull Dragon"

  • @KenanVonKaiser
    @KenanVonKaiser6 ай бұрын

    Wild!

  • @AloneTheorist
    @AloneTheorist3 ай бұрын

    I'm surprised that Tearlaments weren't ruined by the fact that they share a line of text in common with Shaddolls. Basically due to this line of text, if you used polymerization to fusion summon using tearlaments monsters as fusion materials you could conduct up to two additional fusion summons because of the tearlaments monsters you sent to the gy by polymerization. Effectively giving you a one card, three extra deck summon combo in polymerization which in by the way is a multi method searchable spell.

  • @AloneTheorist

    @AloneTheorist

    3 ай бұрын

    For you to know, the common line is 'if this card is sent to the graveyard by card effect.' Since fusion spells count among cards that send cards to the gy by card effect, this combo could have been particularly potent if people weren't obsessed with milling cards. You could for example use a single Polymerization to bring out all 3 Tearlaments fusion monsters in a single turn depending on how you conduct your additional fusion summons after using your polymerization to make Kitkallos.

  • @justinmathis8078
    @justinmathis80789 ай бұрын

    Quick effect removal attached to monsters. Drident, Kirin, masterpiece, arise heart

  • @dylanogg347
    @dylanogg3478 ай бұрын

    22:50: And my Main Monster, Junk Synchron!

  • @tarikkash4282
    @tarikkash42829 ай бұрын

    I love Charity and Pot!!

  • @Dyllon2012
    @Dyllon20123 ай бұрын

    I’ve thought if they wanted Victory Dragon to be legal and playable, that it would be pretty obvious they would rule you cannot concede once Victory Dragon hits the field.

  • @existingintensifies
    @existingintensifies9 ай бұрын

    I'm surprised "Non hard once once per turn" or "causing infinite loops" is not one of the reasons on this list

  • @JZblue9

    @JZblue9

    9 ай бұрын

    while yes, those cases usually get hit hard and fast, i'd argue they arent as common as other bans/limits. so, on one hand, they make for memorable bans, moreso than consistency hits, but on the other, its really not the majority of them. the last infinite combo/NOPT ban i can think of is sillva, and thats only in master duel. though, funny enough, he's both of those.

  • @TheSpecialPsycho

    @TheSpecialPsycho

    9 ай бұрын

    Cuz Pole Position exists unbanned, lol

  • @sandradee4331

    @sandradee4331

    9 ай бұрын

    I agree that non-hard once per turn cards are one of the top reasons for banning. But I think it's a very generic classification that the author opted to highlight specific effects (except #10) to make his list more coherent to viewers.

  • @ladyriethegoldendelmo5441

    @ladyriethegoldendelmo5441

    9 ай бұрын

    @@sandradee4331 and I just remember something I hope yugi tv show spell card the one he draws like 5-6 cards I hope they can make it happen but like some kind of restrictions but good enough to play lol. cause there are tons of anime cards only or even like bandit keith cards, bones, rex raptor cards, and etc would love to see them get tons of supports

  • @ZPokePlayz
    @ZPokePlayz9 ай бұрын

    15:01 how so when if it gained the effect of said monster why would it not also retain the restriction to only use it once per turn?

  • @hightidekraken
    @hightidekraken9 ай бұрын

    GAZELLE TO 3 BABY LETS GOOO

  • @AthosJosue
    @AthosJosue2 ай бұрын

    Every card should be legal, that way Konami would have to put real thought on the design process, instead of winging it.

  • @kittentheboss2796
    @kittentheboss27969 ай бұрын

    I don't exactly blame older cards for being too strong. When the meta and format changed to pendulums Yu-Gi-Oh! was never the same. Back in the day Exodia OTK decks were everyone's bane as they had to sit there and wait for the opponent to kill you for minutes. This is quite similar how links and pendulums ruined yugioh's game health. Sitting and waiting for your opponent to eat through 20 cards for 3 negates isn't healthy for the game. The amount of special summoning the game has now is just too much for my liking which is why i run fossil dyna stun taking things back to the old days. Mabey Mystic mine took that ideology a bit too far but at least it made burn decks viable again.

  • @LocrianDorian
    @LocrianDorian9 ай бұрын

    "Degenerate strategies that end games far too fast". So like every meta deck currently?

  • @agitpolat1061

    @agitpolat1061

    9 ай бұрын

    You say that, but that funnily enough reminds me of his "Most degenerate Cards" Video a while back (I think that was the Title atleast?), and most of THAT List pretty much boiled down to just "They suck because they can realistically stop Meta Decks from working". And given the most common Joke about "how they work" is "You play Solitaire for about 15 Minutes to win", I'm honestly starting to think competitive YGO Players have become the unironic epitome of "Optimizing the Fun out of something" to the extent that they literally can't think outside of black and white "Either it's Meta or it sucks, no exception" anymore.

  • @LocrianDorian

    @LocrianDorian

    9 ай бұрын

    @@agitpolat1061 Well, by definition metagame is all about optimizing your play so fun has pretty much nothing to do with it. It's Konami's job to slow the game down so that you can have fun while still being competitive. But yeah, personally I prefer playing Edison format, I only play the current one in Master Duel casually and I don't play Kashtira or anything top tier, they bore me to tears.

  • @aidanderson53X
    @aidanderson53XАй бұрын

    I hate that flood gates get banned cuz it means the game will never slow down or allow for control play. Instead we get draw your busted combo

  • @Bergsen_Bun-sense
    @Bergsen_Bun-sense9 ай бұрын

    I couldnt wait for you to talk about grass looks greener. Getting a grass off in withcrafters/ishizu/tear is almost game winning if you send 20

  • @sandradee4331

    @sandradee4331

    9 ай бұрын

    Grass only works best if your opponent has less cards than you do (40 vs 60) in the initial phase of the game. Tear doesn't need Grass as Ishizu can mill the deck better even at 40-card deck.

  • @billykepner4938
    @billykepner49389 ай бұрын

    Dandelion may not have been viable prior to 5Ds but it was a card designed by Jaden in GX

  • @informatikabos5481
    @informatikabos54819 ай бұрын

    I kinda wish Yugioh would release all the weird cards (10) from the bannlist for a format to see what happens.

  • @ladyriethegoldendelmo5441
    @ladyriethegoldendelmo54419 ай бұрын

    out of all the list here I think magical scientist has the highest chance to get unbanned and see play if they just did once per a turn. as for the other cards here or on the banned list not sure. and for heavy storm could be like cant special summon the turn u use the card. or if u use the card first then u cant special summon for this turn. and for snatch steal mabe get 10k lp for enemy player per a turn and cant attack besides with a control monster. and the fusion one the one u pay 2000 lp to special summon as many banished monster as possible. I say 7999 lp and u have to win on that turn otherwise u lose.

  • @sandradee4331

    @sandradee4331

    9 ай бұрын

    I rather not let these iconic banned/limited cards get errata'd and instead just release another retrain with conditions to make them playable/balanced. Still can't accept what they did to Chaos Emperor Dragon and other iconic legacy cards. I do, however, agree to make some other cards' effects slapped with a hard once per turn only if they can make the card more playable -- like Foolish Burial getting errata'd but must be released from banlist.

  • @ladyriethegoldendelmo5441

    @ladyriethegoldendelmo5441

    9 ай бұрын

    @@sandradee4331 oh I just saw this comment right when I gave u a comment on my other one... anyways it depends on how they do it... I guess... I mean like nercovalley is one where they changed it and its better now. but overall u do have a point. the errta stuff I want I bet they wouldnt do it like that more likely so u have a point like brain control shivers... but its just that I just want to be able to use them is all. but I guess the close thing they could do is either a make a card similar to it but nerf it a bit or b make like a magical scientist number 2 and make it a once per a turn. for pot cards they will never make errata pot. so they just make a new one. anyways as long as they improve the game we good. and mabe some supports like ally of justice, dark magician girl, serpant knight dragon, five head dragon, gate guardian, ultimate great moth, blue eyes and their fusion more supports. cause honestly even dark magician and blue eyes kinda eh... but yea if u got other suggestions and ideas I can talk to konami and hopefully they listen but doubt it.

  • @randomprotag9329
    @randomprotag93299 ай бұрын

    for context of how much much of a ruling problem last turn is cimo and MBT had to have a multi page rulling document on hand to properly resolve it.

  • @MrJapanUnderground
    @MrJapanUnderground8 ай бұрын

    I miss Mind Master... When first wave Psychics came out, I made Psychics my thing because it was a new type. I collected every Psychic card as it came out, so that I could make so many new Psychic decks. One I made was REALLY good and it actually used Mass Driver to do a cool burn loop. Then, because of an Exodia deck, Mind Master got banned. The ONE card that made Psychics work because the point was they were supposed to be centered around the master. Psychics were never the same again, they didn't try to make them better or at least errata Mind Master, and they just fell off. I feel like Phychics got dropped for Cyberse because they just didn't know what to do with Psychics anymore after the Mind Master ban. They came out as stand-alone cards after that or the type was just slapped onto monsters that had NOTHING to do with the concept of what Psychic monsters were known for.

  • @jameshoang2060
    @jameshoang20609 ай бұрын

    Top 10 Main Deck Boss Monsters

  • @ofox716
    @ofox7169 ай бұрын

    "Burn ended the game far too fast --" Meanwhile, most games only last 2 turns max regardless

  • @Sulidaire
    @Sulidaire9 ай бұрын

    We need a compilation for Maxx C

  • @RealGateGuardian
    @RealGateGuardian9 ай бұрын

    I'd REALLY love to see a MTG make a version of this

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