Whoever moved past Manziel, you did the right thing.

@datsko6339

Жыл бұрын

as a Steelers fan, I couldn't have been happier when Cleveland took him. I knew Cleveland was allergic to drafting good players and with a guy with as questionable off-field antics as Manziel, I knew it would be a disaster for them.

@inhop2443

Жыл бұрын

​​@@repentandbelieveinJesusChrist2You know this shit pushes people away from listening, yeah? There's been studies - you'll have to read another book though..

@zug2099

Жыл бұрын

@@inhop2443 atheist.

@jimmyplenderleith9471

Жыл бұрын

I would wonder how any team couldn't see that Manziel had no work ethic while at Texas A&M, but then you see it was Cleveland drafting him, so that answers my question.

@aciredunn4604

Жыл бұрын

Nah 🤣🤣🤣🤣

Lamar was insane to fall considering Josh Rosen was chose in that draft top 10

@scottcowan7343

Жыл бұрын

Can we not talk about that I'd like to forget that man ever played professional football lol. Barely even a year and he was cut. What a waste.

@letsgoooo9200

Жыл бұрын

Rosen was picked caused they thought he was nfl ready , Lamar slid because he didn’t wanna play rb/wr

@clv735

Жыл бұрын

Keep that in mind when you hear all these folks say Lamar won't be able to stay healthy. Experts thought he needed to play WR in the first place.

@puppethound

Жыл бұрын

@@clv735 yeah and these "experts" work for the teams that pick in the top 10 every year. I have said this one statement since I was a player/coach in high school: stop firing/hiring coaches on a carousel and actually evaluate the people scouting/recruiting these players because they are the ones that need to go. Their logic is "let's try to fit a square peg into a round hole" and see what happens. Yay, you get to pick in the top 10 AGAIN next year.

@atkascha

Жыл бұрын

Pros have even said it... NCAA and NFL are nearly 2 different sports. Personally, I'll take a successful small school QB over a successful big school QB, especially in a pro-style offense. NFL GMs are "don't see the forest for the trees" sometimes (or get pressure from owners) and that's why they take Tebow, Leaf, Russell, Manziel, and a bunch of other QBs way too early... and the Bradys, Jimmy G's, Warners, Romos, Purdys of the NCAA go late/undrafted. Personally, I never understand why NFL teams think QBs in mega-spread offenses will do well in the NFL, but that's a whole other topic. Edit: Lamar is also one of the few QBs whos stats in the NFL are better than they are in college. Better accuracy, better TD/INT ratio, better avg yds/pass.

Lamar going 32 was criminal, but the ARod one is the weirdest to me. From going from either being the #1 pick all the way to #22 is insane

@Sephiroth766

Жыл бұрын

I saw a doc about that draft. It was a unique situation since not many teams actually needed a QB in that given year.

@soulofthemedley

Жыл бұрын

this was also before the rookie limit on contracts, first rounders could get a ton of money before it was instituted in 2010

@bigt5096

Жыл бұрын

Of course my dear Vikings get punished for it too

@avacadomangobanana2588

Жыл бұрын

Not only that he then sat for 3 years

@LarryJ602

Жыл бұрын

I think we are seeing now why Lemar went at 32, character issues. All the interviews, all the time he went to other teams, they saw it. I think it's obvious all the GMs saw him as an issue with NPD and Baltimore took a shot. He refuses to get an agent, he refuses to entertain options, yet still wants to get paid like other QBs that hired good agents. Jaylen Hurts didn't get that bag from being an A hole with NPD thinking "I can do it myself, f all y'all." That's what all the teams in that draft saw. It's obvious now. I mean, come on, he's unrestricted, no one is wanting to deal with him. Dude needs some humble pie. I also think it's funny how all the locker room issues reported about him are being ignored right now with the contract issue going on.

Laremy Tunsil's draft day was pretty wild too

@hwpo7197

Жыл бұрын

Especially since a family member leaked the photo! Made it work though easily a top 5 tackle in the league

@Josh-dy4lq

Жыл бұрын

Insane how teams found that bad, I would’ve taken him #1. Bro has lungs of steel

@TheodoreBrosevelt

Жыл бұрын

​@@Josh-dy4lq Most teams were just afraid of getting another Josh Gordon

@derickvera573

Жыл бұрын

I think he'd go top 5 at least in a a redraft.

@aaronrayk

Жыл бұрын

Will Levis slide gonna be next

I mean, the Browns did get Joe Thomas. Who by the way, was the best offensive linemen of his era, and just got elected to the Hall of Fame.

@packersauburneric3625

Жыл бұрын

Shame they wasted his hall of fame career

@8thaccount535

Жыл бұрын

​@@packersauburneric3625The Browns haven't had a good QB since Kosar in the 80's. That's why they were so desperate to get Watson. Hopefully he works out for them or that trade will have set the franchise back at least 6-8 years.

@gibran6190

Жыл бұрын

@@packersauburneric3625 The Browns have wasted pretty much EVERYONES career since they’ve come back lol

@williamanderson6006

Жыл бұрын

I mean even a blind dog finds a bone once in awhile

@AndrewJ1313

Жыл бұрын

Thomas deserves better. The Browns wasted his career.

Alex Smith's pathetic attempt at hitting that tire when Rodgers hit it perfectly is burned in my memory.

@Purplecreature36000

Жыл бұрын

Imagine he fell like Rodgers did and the chiefs took him lmao

@DaGameGuy

Жыл бұрын

That alone should had made the 49ers select Rodgers first

@sudheer4044

Жыл бұрын

He is threading the needle and they the other guy

@thelastmanonearth2631

Жыл бұрын

Yeah, I remember that too, but it's also a really, really dumb way to guage acurracy on a football field. No NFL scout put a drop of stock in it, because it's dumb. Alex Smith would have had a similar or better career than Rodgers if he'd stayed healthy

@HiLoRez

Жыл бұрын

@@thelastmanonearth2631 💀💀 stupidest comment I’ve ever seen

Sometimes the fall truly is what's best. It allowed people like Moss and Lamar to really, really blow up.

@stevescott3735

Жыл бұрын

Don’t forget Jalen Hurts

@markalton4610

Жыл бұрын

Lamar blows. I wouldn’t draft him 32nd to bag groceries. Moss was great

@Drewster4545

Жыл бұрын

@@markalton4610 🤡

@IntroducingMrLucci

Жыл бұрын

Moss only slid cause of drug busts. Overall he wasn't bad character, but made some poor immature decisions.

@GoBlue_yanks42

Жыл бұрын

@@IntroducingMrLucci it’s interesting to me that Dick Vermil would talk about character issues… I know he wasn’t coach at the time but Lawrence Phillips is the perfect example of that

Rip Demariyus Thomas

@rodrigoalves95

Жыл бұрын

Rip. He lived up to being selected ahead of Dez Bryant.

@BrennanEarl

Жыл бұрын

❤️

@GEMINI_THE_BES89

Жыл бұрын

Rip to Demaryius Thomas

@robertkitchens6341

3 ай бұрын

Lets ride

@moynul313

3 ай бұрын

And won a Superbowl ​@@rodrigoalves95

Imagine how many rings the 49ers would've had with rodger especially with the defense the last 14 years

@alexanderpendenza5464

Жыл бұрын

Wouldn’t be as easy as you think. If Aaron goes to San Fran, he keeps carrying them to the playoffs, no way they’re in position to draft all those great defensive players

@joeriveracomedy

Жыл бұрын

Or a coach who didn't crumble in 2/3 title opportunity 4th quarters. Philly was a fluke.

@thatleftyjames2893

Жыл бұрын

2 at best

@crushedscouter9522

Жыл бұрын

They'd have no more than they do. Rodgers sucks in the playoffs

@SayGahTaah

Жыл бұрын

He sat for 3 years on the bench learning. Think he'd be as good as he got if he started right away? Doubt it.

R. Moss would never let the Cowboys forget how they did him dirty.

@tjordan2757

Жыл бұрын

I'll never let them forget either! Lol

@phillyeaglesforlife5127

Жыл бұрын

Yep, a perfect 7-0 against them in his career

@fortynights1513

Жыл бұрын

If he doesn’t slide, he’s in the top three or four. He received Heisman votes I believe.

@ncfldtw2422

3 ай бұрын

Randy went exactly where he needed to be. Dallas didn't have someone that would be as good of a mentor as Cris Carter was. Randy would've struggled with off the field stuff in Dallas.

Dez Bryant was all about his “X” celebration for all the touchdowns he scored!

Love that lamar was so humble about falling and 5 years later he got his bag

@SnoopyReads

5 ай бұрын

Biggest bust in that draft

@Sisyphus..

4 ай бұрын

​@@SnoopyReadsTroll

@SnoopyReads

4 ай бұрын

@@Sisyphus.. how dare you

Side note, Watching Gino being picked and his journey up until now is almost movie like. Good for Gino and his resilience.

@dankelly5150

Жыл бұрын

Yup, feel good story for sure !!

@joeriveracomedy

Жыл бұрын

If only a hawks defensive end was blocked by a 4th string tight end in the wild card

@Youngmexico72

Жыл бұрын

Idk about that he had one good season lol calm down bud

@nmemichael1043

Жыл бұрын

@@Youngmexico72 oh I still feel the same way. I still think giving him a contract was weird

@isaac7399

Жыл бұрын

Geno

DK Metcalf had a huge slide as well. Going into the draft a lot of mocks had him going top 10 and he was selected 64th.

Man it's like Geno knew exactly what would happen to him when the Jets picked him. Truly a cursed franchise.

Got recommended to me after Will Levis dropped out of the first round. Brutal

@joyokorodudu

Жыл бұрын

I swear, me too 😂

@TheMilapMehta

7 ай бұрын

Levis had no business going anywhere near the first round. He's Josh Rosen 2.0

@onomatopoeia300

3 ай бұрын

@@TheMilapMehtayikes

@IBangedUrMom69420

11 күн бұрын

@@onomatopoeia300Guess we’ll find out how good he really is in 2024

Was Manziel really a slide though? Fans were clamoring for him to be picked in the 1st but most NFL scouts had a late round grade on him. It definitely was entertaining waiting to see where he would eventually be picked.

@davebowman5152

Жыл бұрын

I remember really disliking johnny, not just because of his attitude, but he was a through and through college QB and not pro QB. I had a 3rd round grade on him due to potentially being a good QB if properly coached and sat a couple years.

@enthusiastofcute

Жыл бұрын

It’s only a slide by the perspective of fans at that time. Looking back at it now it was very clear his play style wouldn’t translate to the NFL not even mentioning all the off field drama

@Boshyballs

Жыл бұрын

HALF OF THESE aren’t slides

@tallflguy

Жыл бұрын

You are right, Manziel was a fan creation. Most scouts had a late round grade for him. I had him as a 5th rounder. Browns are dumb.

@jackwilliams7738

Жыл бұрын

@@davebowman5152 manziels problem was he didn’t study play books and understand the art behind football. His football iq wasn’t good and his partying hurt him a lot.

Manti Te’o. Wasn’t out of the conversation for #1 in 2013 and then fell to the second round

@depressedchargersfan8061

Жыл бұрын

I think the lesson there is to not have a fake girlfriend

@austinhensley6553

Жыл бұрын

@@depressedchargersfan8061 a fake dead girlfriend

@lambro3001

Жыл бұрын

​@@austinhensley6553 a fake dead man girlfriend

@Spurs577

Жыл бұрын

@@austinhensley6553 watch the documentary, he got hoodwinked

@LoopHoleLeeRoy

Жыл бұрын

He’s actually a really good guy. The whole thing was freaking weird.

Lots of people here are probably too young to remember Marino's rookie year but he was pretty much 100% ready from day one.

@wknowlesfilm

8 ай бұрын

The best pure passer to ever play

@booradley6832

5 ай бұрын

Huh? Marino himself credits a lot of his transition to the NFL going so well to Don Strock's mentoring. Coach Shula was also an excellent resource. He also was 23 when he hit the league, which a lot of these players now are pressured to come in earlier before graduating from college, leaving themselves emotionally and mentally not ready to handle the pressure of helming a billion dollar franchise's fortunes. I dont think what you're saying is necessarily true, he came in physically ready and old/mature enough to handle it, but his learning curve was accelerated by an excellent coach and qb mentor that allowed him to smooth it over on the fly. His supporting offensive cast was also excellent. If he was just flopped out there with no protection, no mentor and no co-stars like a lot of guys are when they're expected to "save this franchise" he probably would have failed too.

@LeeBrasher

3 ай бұрын

This reads better if I take your second paragraph first. @@booradley6832

That Aaron Rodgers draft night was something else, falling to 24 and all the cameras on you live watching your hopes and dreams get crushed.

@Fido-vm9zi

Жыл бұрын

Ridiculously painful to even watch this happen to someone.

I guess Brady's fall was too long to be in this video. 😂

@bosports3396

Жыл бұрын

No one would’ve thought he was good in 2000

@kentfreeman8674

Жыл бұрын

Totally

@GilbertoCarnitas

Жыл бұрын

but he wasnt a good prospect at the time

@cy_young_9104

Жыл бұрын

Nobody was expecting him to get drafted.

@TheLegendaryFolklore

Жыл бұрын

Brady didn't fall. He was never projected to be a first or even second round pick.

The sucky thing about Rogers's fall, is imagine if he had gone to the 49ers and what his stats could be not sitting behind Favre for three years. Perhaps it allowed him to develop enough to get running instead of faltering, but I would love to see the universe in which he went #1

@lpseudonyml

Жыл бұрын

He easily has more Super Bowl rings if he gets taken by the 49ers.

@RainmakerXBooty

Жыл бұрын

@@lpseudonyml the 49ers burned through like 5 head coaches alex smiths first 5 years. aaron rodgers might be out of the league by 2010. Alex hung around mostly bc of his great attitude or ownership wouldve given up on him like the coaches

@fortynights1513

Жыл бұрын

@@RainmakerXBooty True, but at the same time, one could also argue that if Rodgers did pan out, he’d potentially have a team with a better defense in some of his prime years. The Green Bay defenses in the years after their Super Bowl win are often described as mid or trash, whereas San Francisco’s defense was the better component of a Super Bowl team, and a further two conference championship teams in the early 2010’s.

@michaellancaster7092

7 ай бұрын

He is as good as he is BECAUSE he sat behind farve

@samuelurbanski5002

Ай бұрын

Watch some of his tape early on in the NFL, nothing more miraculous than falling and having to be humbled (momentarily, dudes a douche on camera) could have happened to him Edit: I reread your initial statement and had to humble my own comment. You pretty much said what I was inferring.

Reminder that Josh Rosen, who was taken 22 picks before Lamar, said “there were nine mistakes made ahead of me”

@TheMilapMehta

7 ай бұрын

Still amazed that Rosen said that. He had no business going in the first round. Instead of thanking his lucky stars he had the arrogance to make an idiotic statement like that. Everyone paying attention knew he was the mistake. Great to see a happy ending there.

@Scottsdaleofficesteve

7 ай бұрын

I still remember being pissed the Bills took Josh Allen over Rosen...glad I was wrong LOL

@samuelurbanski5002

Ай бұрын

​@@Scottsdaleofficesteveas a dolphins fan, I was pissed the bills took Allen. I wanted 'us' to trade tannehill and picks to you so 'we' could have him lol

The other thing about Marino was he was supposed to be a lock to sign with the USFL's LA Express as he was drafted #1 for the fledgling league in January. They were prepared to give him a ridiculous contract. He even made appearances for the team. Jim Kelly ended up signing with the Houston Gamblers. As for Lamar Jackson, as a Cardinal fan I wish we stayed put at 15 that year and drafted him then went defense the following year(had we still ended up with the #1 pick) instead of trading up and wasting the #10 pick on Rosen only to draft Murray the following year.

@billallen8998

8 ай бұрын

How can anyone be a fan of a team that doesn't even make an attempt to field a winning team? Hiring head coaches other teams wouldn't touch with a 10 foot pole. A losing team is more profitable than a winning team and because phoenix is a transient town, the Cardinals don't need to win to sell tickets because the stadium is usually full of fans of the visiting team.

Brady Quinn's issue was that he simply couldn't process plays fast enough. The game was just too fast for him.

@fortynights1513

Жыл бұрын

They traded a first for him, and it turned out 07 wasn’t a year to pick a quarterback (Drew Stanton was arguably the best that year).

@MuddieRain

11 ай бұрын

That’s most players

@BestSportsVids

8 ай бұрын

His biggest issue was going to Cleveland and that they kept benching him for Anderson rather than just sticking it out to see his development instead. Had they just stuck it out, or if he had gone elsewhere to a team that could have coached him correctly I think he would have been fine. His game against the Lions showed his potential.

@booradley6832

5 ай бұрын

@@BestSportsVids The latter option. Giving players good mentors and a support system is a steady predictor of good QB development.

As a SAINTS fan, the Lamar/Brees/Michael Thomas/Sean Payton dream combo makes me cry for real 😔

@fortynights1513

Жыл бұрын

As is, you had a darn good team in 2018 (shoutout to the duo of Kamara and Ingram as well as the four at minimum fringe pro bowl linemen you had), but yeah, if you take Lamar, you are likely in a better spot post Brees. Marcus Davenport is ok, but certainly a missed opportunity.

@17thNO

Жыл бұрын

Man if we had Lamar it would've been so fiya. My favorite team the Saints with my favorite current player, would've been great.

@DAMamaSexual

7 ай бұрын

@@17thNObut instead you got five solid years of Marcus Davenport

@KevD720

2 ай бұрын

@@fortynights1513Marcus davenbum was absolutely not ok 😂

I remember people thought desean Jackson was to small and not strong enough but he proved everyone wrong. The best deep threat in nfl history and one of the most electrifying players ever. Not bad for a 5'10 175lbs man. Paved the way for those short speedy guys

@andrewpierce1588

Жыл бұрын

You crazy. The best deep threat of all time was Moss. Jackson’s numbers don’t come close.

@247JesusFreek

Жыл бұрын

@@andrewpierce1588 you crazy. Jackson has the most 60 + receiving tds in nfl history and 2nd most or 1st for 50 +. Do your homework and check it for yourself. Jackson doesn't even have moss height or athleticism and yet has broken tons of records. Cmon now

@mjf2891

Жыл бұрын

@@247JesusFreek stats are for losers

@hectorm1284

Жыл бұрын

And he still burns ppl 💀💀 man is a beast

@bigmodontfail6229

Жыл бұрын

@@andrewpierce1588 lol you’re delusional Jackson definitely best deep threat

lLamar unique, great vision understanding of the game, doesn't hesitate that tremendous shortstop type arm not much wind up. Am a Lamar fan always so many running qb type offenses in college he broke thru

As a cowboys fan, I’ll never forget how nervous I was about Jerry going after Johnny. I didn’t want him. Most cowboys fans didn’t want him. We were/are already the most dramatic team in the league, we didn’t need more. Getting Martin, a future HOFer was lit. Stephen Jones stepped up to his daddy that day and it paid off 😮‍💨

DK Metcalf falling to 64

@davebowman5152

Жыл бұрын

Not really a fall since many expected him to go in the 2nd round. Was expected to go early 2nd though

@pjw-

Жыл бұрын

yeah he had injury problems (ankle and foot I believe)

@dre3425

Жыл бұрын

Patriots drafted Nkeal Harry over like 7 pro bowl receivers one of them was DK.

@fortynights1513

Жыл бұрын

The Seahawks drafted DK at 64, cool!

@alexanderschmidt3714

Жыл бұрын

@@davebowman5152 DK Metcalf is THE draft slide. He was No. 17 on PFF draft board over all other Wide Reciever. And also he crushed the combine.

Jerry wanted Johnny Football... but if he had his way, then no Zack Martin. Bet for once, Jerry's glad he didn't interfere.

Manziel actually had a lot of potential. He came to Seattle in 2015 which I went to go see and was surprised by his ability to evade and do good things with the football. Even Pete Carrol acknowledged his skills before the game. But obviously his off the field problems helped kill his career unfortunately.

@booradley6832

5 ай бұрын

He needed to be shelved and allowed to party for a year as a third stringer, then jumped on and forced to mature. In that alternate reality he probably is a really big name.

@MarioMartinez-tt9ly

4 ай бұрын

Nah I knew manziel was nothing but a frat boy all the way . I watched him closely in college.

@lacandela69

3 ай бұрын

I went to that game too! I wore my manziel browns jersey

Rodgers went at about the right spot, I'm a Packers fan and a huge Rodgers fan. If you can understand why Rodgers going in the 20's was the right spot for him then you can understand why so many players turn out to be busts. If Aaron Rodgers went in the top 10, it's highly likely he's a bust. He'd go to a team that wasn't good and be thrust into a starting job when he needed A LOT of improving before he was ready- even when he did start 3 years later he didn't come out of the gate looking like a great QB.

@cebokhumalo602

Жыл бұрын

Totally agree with you, I always wonder how different history could have been if Alex Smith didn't go Number 1 in that draft and went to a team where he could develop. Maybe he would have been an all timer alike Aaron is.

@DanielJayHouk

Жыл бұрын

Agreed. Think about inheriting the 2005 Niners vs 2005 Packers. The coaches, the culture, the ability to sit behind Favre and learn from the sideline.

@MckieDs595

Жыл бұрын

Yea unfortunately, y’all won’t give the next guy the same treatment. Y’all already giving up on him.

@bennet2456

Жыл бұрын

@@MckieDs595 I think most of us are really accepting of Jordan Love and place reasonable expectations on him, no one expects him to be like Favre or Rodgers

@ryansmith8102

Жыл бұрын

@@bennet2456 So far...History is repeating itself ;). I do hope Jordan Love does well and turns out to be a great player. I mean he'll be starting after the same number of years Aaron Rodgers had to wait before taking over the starting job after Favre. Brett Favre went on to play for the Jets, just like Aaron Rodgers is looking to be playing for next season. Weird. Maybe we'll get lucky a 3rd time again. Favre...Rodgers...Love. Fingers crossed.

18:44 - Dick Vermeil talking about being careful drafting people with off the field issues. Meanwhile two years earlier in 1996 he selected one of the greatest character issues/ busts ever in RB Lawrence Phillips.

@UserName-ts3sp

Жыл бұрын

burned by experience

@Sheriff_Curtis

Жыл бұрын

I mean that gives him credence for saying that, prior experience.

@TheAlfrulz

Жыл бұрын

@@Sheriff_Curtis My understanding was that Phillips was an even greater risk than Moss given his violent acts while at Nebraska. So when he was still drafted high in the top ten, all eyes turned to St. Louis to ask "why?". Vermeil said he had the organization that could keep Phillips in line on and off the field. Vermeil was either letting his emotions go overboard once again, or he was full of BS, and just wanted a big talent to start winning games.

@thelastmanonearth2631

Жыл бұрын

I get that your generation has this weird inability to learn things, but older folks used to change their opinions when experience or new information changed their perspective. I know, it's really hard to grasp in your position, but it's a thing people used to be able to do.

@IBangedUrMom69420

11 күн бұрын

@@TheAlfrulzI mean he had Phillips going good for a bit in STL, shame it couldn’t last.

For those too young to remember, Aaron Rodgers was CLEARLY the best QB in that draft. He was slated to go #1 for awhile. His slide was more dramatic than all the others because even if he didn't go #1, you wouldn't expect a guy like him to go past the top 5. Especially not 20 years ago when teams were more willing to pull the trigger on a QB at the top of the draft. I still can't believe Alex Smith was selected over him. It blew my mind at the time and it still blows my mind today. I think Alex Smith came across as more mature and he had a young Urban Meyer blowing the bullhorn for him constantly. Rodgers came across as a little like a frat guy and that could be a reason he fell, but he was clearly so much more talented than Alex Smith to an extreme degree. The fall to #24 was insane. John Elway got drafted #1 to the Colts in the 80s despite the fact that he said he would never play for their organization lol so they traded him to Denver. Rodgers should have been #1. I thought it at the time and never changed my mind. He was too good to pass on unless you had a legit HOF QB in his prime at QB.

“They wrote me off but I never wrote back” Lol I love that

I feel like Geno Smith’s career after that night is the age old tale of the quality player who was overhyped by the media to create a storyline for the occasion. Glad he’s found a place in Seattle, what a storyline it became.

Alex Smith really played in the perfect system in Utah. He was coached by Urban Meyer before he went big time. I remember Utah steamrolling everyone they played that year. They played in a BCS bowl that year against Pittsburgh and clobbered them. Basically couldn't be stopped. Rodgers was just unfortunate that not that many teams needed a QB that year. This is how you get Tua at #5 and Herbert at #6 without having to trade up.

I have only ever watched one NFL Draft. It was Brady Quinn. Seeing him with his girlfriend was the beginning of a good time. After he fell, and fell, and fell, watching her was the greatest show on television.

Draft slide? Geno was a bust for his first 8 years. Just because he had one great year doesn’t mean he was some underrated player/prospect. 😭

In that 1995 NFL Draft the Patriots got Curtis Martin in the 3rd round with the number 74 pick. In the 6th round at pick #195 they took RB Dino Philyaw from Oregon. Pick 196 was RB Terrell Davis could you have imagined how good that backfield could have been if the Patriots went with Davis.

Something else that a lot of people don't know about Kyle Brady over Warren Sapp: The Browns were set to have the very next pick after the Jets (#10 overall). Their head coach at the time was Bill Belichick. And from what I've heard, Kyle Brady was the only name on their board. When the Jets took him, the Browns war room was so shocked and unprepared that they traded 20 spots down (yes, you're reading that correctly) with the defending champion 49ers. The Niners took J.J. Stokes with that tenth pick, by the way, and Cleveland ended up selecting Craig Powell at #30, who only lasted three seasons in the league.

@fortynights1513

Жыл бұрын

Side nnote about Kyle Brady: If I’m not mistaken he played for Bill Belichick in 2007 at the end of his career.

Geno Smith and his family were so confident that he was going in the 1st round that they came to NYC and didn't get a hotel room or even pack a change of clothes. If you see Geno on the first day, he's all decked out in a fancy suit. But on the second, he had on a sweater that he had to run out and buy in the city. Always be prepared.

Geno Smith's drop wasn't proven wrong. Having one good season after banging around the league for 10-years and 4-teams doesn't scream "this guy shoulda been a 1st rounder!"

RIP DT. Great receiver for the Broncos. They took the right guy.

Malik Willis and Laremy Tunsil should've at least been honorable mentions.

@Gungho73

Жыл бұрын

Laremy isn't on this list?? That's a mistake by the video maker then if that's the case. I can't remember a lineman that you felt would be a really good player just suddenly ripped off of draft boards seemingly LIVE. There are few players I can remember as visibly draft wise. Willis fall I think was just teams being reasonable about that QB crop. I think the media desperately drummed up the idea he was a 1st rounder fringe because QB's are more exciting for draft stories/analysis and trade potential. And when you look back,there was a LOT of incredibly desperate, almost begging by the media to make a move happened. I remember feeling relieved, not only for not overdrafting him, but I felt he had a place he could potentially develop. He's looked raw so far and thats being incredibly kind.

@packersauburneric3625

Жыл бұрын

All coached by hugh freeze

Whoever moved past Manziel, you did the right thing.. Laremy Tunsil's draft day was pretty wild too.

Curtis Martin had durability issues 😂😂 shows the knowledge of the draft experts and nfl scouts

Alex Smith was untested. Aaron Rodgers had 23 consecutive completions against the #1 defense in college football in 2004. Can't wait to see how the story turns out for AR.

@Vakator-29

7 ай бұрын

Tbf that throwing motion was hideous 😂

Obviously it hurts to see other players in your position get drafted before you but in a glass half full way, there's gotta be some relief during the sliding process that you know you're likely gonna go to a better organization because of it.

@Gunzfan123

7 ай бұрын

I think the pain mostly comes from losing out on millions of dollars and people you feel like are worse than you getting it instead. Obviously there is a silver lining like you stated though.

The fact that Aaron Rodgers’s sat behind favre for 3 years and still got 4 mvps a sb mvp and a ring is wild to me.

Dez Bryant playing with Moss and Brady if New England would had drafted him would of been legendary!

😦 NFL bringing back Top 10??? 👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽

@fortynights1513

Жыл бұрын

Ah yes, NFL Top 10. It was pretty good from 2007-2014 or so, then they changed things up stylistically and didn’t present in as engaging a manner over the last five years.

Let’s revisit this in 10 years when Kenny Pickett is a 2 time Super Bowl champion 💪🏼💪🏼💪🏼

@ThisWreathingNurse

Жыл бұрын

lmfaoo

@rkymtnchi503

Ай бұрын

That dude will be lucky if he's still in the NFL for another 2-3 years

@WolfPackNV

7 күн бұрын

Maybe as a waterboy

@shawnwilliams2897

7 күн бұрын

lol, what was I thinking

Johnny Manziel is the best slide because he completely deserved it. His story ended sadder than it was in that moment making it so fun to watch.

@WRG-bh8bz

Ай бұрын

Watching someone’s life and career fall apart in real time is fun to watch for you? That’s insanely sad.

Anquan Boldin cratered after he ran a 4.7. Worked well for Arizona

Johnny Football sliding that far was so entertaining and people were just like “WHY TF NO ONE TAKING HIM HES GENERATIONAL” ofc he didn’t turn out in the end but it was mad bamboozling to see manziel fall that low

Brady Quinn looked so sad bruh

@ademirsegura6307

Жыл бұрын

Omg his gf left his ass

@UserName-ts3sp

Жыл бұрын

he lost millions

@goober5713

Жыл бұрын

He sucked.

@packersauburneric3625

Жыл бұрын

Now he's on cbs sports

You guys gonna keep making the first round vids from past drafts? Love those

Marino "I think I threw 5. After you throw 3 what's the difference?" Good point,just keep slinging it lol 😆 😂

I don’t consider someone who is picked late in the first round to be a slide A slide to me is something like Malik Willis from 2022 He was projected to maybe be picked as high second overall, he was in the green room on day 1. He was not picked until day 2. When you get in your nice suit and stand up there with all the other rookies and at the end of the night you have to go back to your hotel without knowing what your future holds, that is a slide.

@scottwerner279

Жыл бұрын

I mean a slide list needs to be based on a few categories. How far did they slide? How famous were they in college? How famous did they get in the NFL? How many teams regretted not picking him? It really only takes the first round for every team to pass on a HOF

There's a good chance the elite players that got passed on wouldn't have blossomed like they did had they been picked first overall. Being passed on gave them motivation unlike anything else to prove those teams made a big mistake by overlooking them. There's only one thing more motivating than believing in someone. It's NOT believing in them. The desire to prove them wrong ignited many of the best players to become legends.

As a Steelers fan I will never forgive the other NFL teams that passed on Lamar Jackson, the entire time I knew he was gonna be a stud in the NFL and yet team after team passed on him, and then right as I thought a team I liked could pick him up in the second round the ravens snag him and my heart sank.

Nick Chubb was a slide and (due to injury in college) now he’s the best back in the nfl

Instead of calling it the draft they should just call it "Rich Eisen says There it is for 3 hours"

RipDemaryius Thomas 💯

The jags picking Blake bortles over Johnny football like picking trash vs trash lmao

Llamar is the definition of shut the fuck up and go to work. Humble to be drafted in the first at all. Happy to be a raven. Never said one negative word about anyone. Sat back for a season. Came out and got his bag. His mom raised a great kid and a proper young man.

Lienart doesn’t belong on this list. Had a terrible career and still was picked 10th OVERALL. Not even late first round. Got picked tenth and was TERRIBLE at football and had a horrible career. That’s not that bad of a slide

Will levis on this list now

Those top pick QB contracts were insane. Each year the new top drafted QB basically became the highest paid player in the NFL. Before they ever played a single down. It was crazy. Not sure who let it get to that point but it did and it was a good thing they put a stop to it because it was ridiculous. I completely understand teams not wanting to draft rookie QBs that high up period. It’s like I’m going to pay someone as much as or even more than guys like Manning and Brady before they ever play a single snap?

The Browns & drafting QB busts… name a more iconic duo

Ik it’s early but I think Malik Willis is an all time draft slide, even if he doesn’t end up becoming a franchise quarterback. Some projected him to go at 2 to the lions and he fell all the way to the 100s

@UserName-ts3sp

Жыл бұрын

i don’t think tennessee wants him as a starter. there’s a reason josh dobbs played meaningful games over him

@ringosteel3800

Жыл бұрын

I don’t think most reasonable people picked him to go that high. Mainly just ESPN and clickbait that always want to sell the idea of high ranked qbs

@Gungho73

Жыл бұрын

@@ringosteel3800 Same. They were desperate to move more QB's up into the 1st that when you looked at the film, just weren't worthy of a 1st rounder. There was a large bag of random QB's they wanted a team to swoon over. The draft with EJ Manuel/Geno Smith is the closest I can mentally recall at that level of "will there/won't there" regarding a single first round QB. And EJ could've easily been the Malik Willis scenario reversed.

Sometimes I wonder if the same player would have had the success they had if they didn't fall in a draft

Man it is crazy that Lamar fell so far bc as a sooner fan it’d be tuff to pick between him and baker at the time so I was shocked too

i’m ready for the remake of this video in 1 year with will levis on this list

Don’t forget Bo Callahan

I love that Sapp had such an amazing career to make up for that terrible draft night drama

@Raugturi

Жыл бұрын

As a Panthers fan I'm required to hate Sapp, obviously, but he got really fucked over. Even if some of the logic was bad against some of the others, at least it was really about them. He got fucked by some shit that someone just completely fabricated out of thin air.

@tgfabthunderbird1

Жыл бұрын

He proved them wrong.❤

@Rknowles813

Жыл бұрын

bucs got brooks and sapp in the same round lmao

For recent players, Kyle Hamilton comes to mind. Not a huge slide (14), considering how much the safety position is devalued in the draft, but he was considered by many to be the best overall prospect in 2022. Russell Wilson is another name - he would have been a Top 10 pick in 2012 had he been a few inches taller.

Man, Curtis Martin was a BEAST

Next year, you can add Will Levis to this list

Another player to think about was Neil Lomax. In college, thanks to a new offensive system (Run & Shoot) and playing Div. II football he put up insane numbers. There were games when he was taken out at halftime because Portland State was up by so much. In one game vs. Delaware State he threw 7 TD passes in the 1st quarter en route to a 105-0 win. He received calls from several NFL teams who were interested. He was considered to be a late 1st round pick. He ended up being drafted by the Cardinals with the #5 pick in the 2nd round(#33 overall). Incidentally he was the 1st QB taken in that draft.

@fortynights1513

Жыл бұрын

Did I read that correctly? A college team in the early 80’s won 105-0?

@Rockhound6165

Жыл бұрын

@@fortynights1513 yes. They also won games by the scores of 93-7 and 75-0. Incidentally, they went 8-3 and finished tied for 4th among Div II independents. Fun Fact: A friend of mine is now the head coach of the team that wore that 1-5-0 score, Delaware St.

@fortynights1513

Жыл бұрын

@@Rockhound6165 That sounds like a score from a college team from World War I, that’s why I asked. You don’t expect to see variances that far that recently in general.

Talking about Warren Sapp...he is probably the biggest draft steal. The guy was awesome to watch!!

Kind of unreal in hindsight that Mahomes didn't go til #10.

10:37 "makes every throw", "occasional accuracy issues" which one is it lmao or is "can" doing a whole lot of heavy lifting

This proof the draft is LITERALLY a scrap shoot. It’s exciting and a great time to talk NFL for the fans and watch highlight reels. Most drafts are BUST filled. For MOST drafted, it is the highlight of their lives AND it goes down from there.

You forgot a big one. Ravens traded 1999 2nd round pick to falcons for 2000 1st rounder. Falcons were coming off a Super Bowl appearance. Ended up tanking and Ravens had 5th overall pick and took Jamal Lewis.

Bro that would’ve bin crazy if dez did end up with the Patriots

Man EJ Manuel was such a disaster of a QB. Not like Geno wasn't but you have to think that would have been a better pick, really anyone else would have.

@Scottsdaleofficesteve

7 ай бұрын

That was the complete opposite of a draft slide ha. If I recall correctly EJ Manuel was projected to go in the 2nd round. What a blunder

Manziel's slide even more sense with the new Untold Stories doc. Dude was lucky to get drafted as high as he was, respect for getting the bag tho

"He struggles in the pocket when that first look isn't there" lmao

Funny to listen to Mike Mayock judge NFL prospects🤣🤣🤣 He set the Raiders back YEARS!! Clelin Farrell🤡🤡

Nakobe Dean going from the 1st round all the way to the 3rd was a pretty big one I think aswell. I seen him going top 20 in so many mocks to not even go top 100

@kentfreeman8674

Жыл бұрын

Eagles D should be called The Big Dawgs with all the Georgia players they have from last year n this

I wanted the cardinals to get Lamar so bad that year! To be a Louisville Cardinal and then an Arizona Cardinal would’ve been great to see

As a Packers fan I love the Rodgers draft slide the same year we had 2 rbs drafted in the top 5 from Auburn and probably will never ever happen again in NFL draft history if you think about it !

Funny, how Jay Cutler outgunned Matt Leinart and Vince Young to have a better NFL career. Plus, Cutler got the better lady; he got to hit it with Kristin Cavallari! Lol 😁

@mitchellknight

Жыл бұрын

Ripping cigs on the sidelines like "dude... eff this, I'm set." Gotta respect the confidence/indifference. Loved watching my boy Rodgers tear the Bears up and him just being like "Idc, I'm going home to Kristin."

Lamar was an interesting case, hindsight is a wonderful thing but did he really fall? He was a total mystery as to where he was going to go. Some people were saying top 5, others were saying second or third round. Think we all assumed at the time that Darnold, Rosen and Mayfield would be gone in the top 10, and possibly Allen. General consensus going into the draft was that Darnold had the highest upside, Baker's character would either make or break him, Rosen was the most pro-ready, Allen was the most boom or bust, and Lamar was the QB who needed to go to a good system more than anyone. 5 years later, Darnold never came close to achieving that upside, Baker's character did break him, but for different reasons to what we imagined, Allen boomed, Rosen was a total bust, and Lamar went to a system that got the best out of him initially and allowed him to develop (even if Roman was a disaster in his final 2 years). What I learned from this draft is that I suck at drafting, and I would've made a terrible GM. I had Rosen as the best QB in the draft. Then Darnold, then Baker, then Lamar, then Allen. I thought Allen was going to be terrible lmao. I also wanted GB to take Josh Jackson in the first round, we took him in the second and he was awful. Lol.

Watching Manziel that night caused me to have second hand anxiety. I think the movie "Draft Day" came out around the same time, and it was almost the same thing that happened in that movie, except the Browns pass on drafted the bust qb with the first pick, and in real life they drafted him.

Some of these slides turned out to be totally understandable lol, others like Lamar Jackson, Drew Brees, Aaron Rogers, etc were huge misses on the teams that needed QBs

To be fair Dez Bryant with the patriots would’ve been fucking crazy next to Randy Moss