Just a note, you don't have to seam seal the Lanshan unless it's the single skin pro version. The double wall version is factory sealed 👍

@SummitOrNothing

Жыл бұрын

Cheers for that info. I purchased the single skin version, and couldn't be arsed with the faff of seam sealing it (lazy git that I am). But I shall pin this post so that its clearer for viewers. Cheers!

@NoviceWildCamper

Жыл бұрын

@@SummitOrNothing cheers trev. A lot of people get them mixed up as there's so many variations with the double skin, pro and plus versions I see it all the time. Even had someone comment on my review vid that I had the pro not the plus and didn't know what I was talking about. Mmmh, had it a year when I did the video so pretty sure 🤣

@MattGriffiths81

Жыл бұрын

On the non-pro versions (maybe only some of them?) you still needed to seal the 2 guy tie-outs and (if you wish) the 4 corner ties. They have reinforced cross-stiching (looks like a rectangle with an X in it) which goes all the way through the fly and the circular seam tape that seals the non-reinforced bit.

@NoviceWildCamper

Жыл бұрын

@@MattGriffiths81 you are correct. I sealed my guy out points as they leaked but a lot of people assume you have to do the whole thing and get mixed up with the pro. 👍

Cracking list and a well deserved top spot for the Lanshan , yes it’s a bit fiddly but so light and yet huge inside , nice one 👍

Love my Lanshan 1 original. Every time I pitch it, it (or I) gets better! 😄 Tried a unusual 130cm length pole last time and I actually think it's better as the bathtub and inner gets lifted more, offering more room. Sooo versatile! 👍🏼

@alangauld6079

Жыл бұрын

One of the most common mistakes with the Lanshans is trying to keep the fly at ground level with too low a pole. Pushing the pole higher gives better structure and much better ventilation. Of course that doesn't work so well in snow!

#1 - Durston Xmid-2 Pro. 21oz #2 - Tarptent Dipole-2 Li. 26oz #3 - Seek Silex. 33oz #4 - Durston Xmid-2 36oz Based on - A) Fits tall person(s), B) Weight, C) Easy setup/fewer stakes, D) Two-door/cross-ventilation/condensation-management, E) Storm-worthiness.

Great job mate, cool for me to see choices from across the pond. My guess is that Big Agnes might be difficult to acquire or perhaps people just prefer other tents. For me a free standing is optimal and the 2p Copper Spur has been great. However, as I get older, I get colder. So I am in search of a 4-season tent. The ability to set inner and outer at the same time is primo. Thanks for some fresh information. from the Old . 💙🙏💛

Great video. I’ll be looking for a good 1 man over the winter sales.

Intresting to learn about the hydrostatic head test! 🤓

I want another spooky Dartmoor Tale!! The tents are interesting - I've had a Lanshan 1 Pro, the lightest of the Lanshan series at 700g, for a couple of years now, and it's a great ultralight fairweather option. Bought initially for stealthy lockdown getaways in my local woods, I've been impressed by how much further you can push it. Best all-round tent for UK backpacking? Tarptent Scarp 1 does it for me - I hope you get the chance to review one of these soon.

Interesting as always. I have too many tents as it is; a Hubba Hubba, a Lanshan 1 plus, a DD Mesh A-frame tent & tarp, and a Hex Peak v4a. Love them all for different reasons. The Hubba Hubba is my 5 star hotel - so much room, the Lanshan is a compromise on weight and space, the DD A-frame tent and superlight tarp for forest and woodland camps and the Hex Peak for windy hillsides here in Wales. If I had to settle for one, it's the Hubba Hubba every time.

@SummitOrNothing

Жыл бұрын

Cheers Ali. Good brief rundown of your tents. Hopefully I will get to test a Hubba Hubba before too long.

I bought the Cloud Up 2 updated version a month ago for multiple trips I am making with my dog since I normally sleep in my hammock. I loved how easy it was to set up, the fact it comes with a groundsheet is a nice bonus, it was light enough and after 15 nights in it, I can say it performed well in wet weather and high winds. I also liked it was free standing since I had to pitch it on rock one night to avoid the low ground in the rain and it was nice to just move it around to where I want. It is by no means a 4 season tent in you live in Canada. There is no snow skirt and no way or sealing up the screening between the two layers. It is a 3 season tent and I guess Natruehike assumes if it has 2 layers they can say it is a 4 season tent. Anyway, I love it and would recommend it too. Wish I could get my hand on these Vango tents in Canada but I think they are only in the UK but seem like a well made tent too.

I'm a fan of the DD tarp. If combined with a DD Travel hammock, (which is waterproof) you can either use as traditional hammock with tarp if there are trees, or make a tarp tent and the hammock doubles up as a bivvy with bug net. Or other tarp options like ploughpoint or lean-to etc.. not seen it done but I bet with a bit of DIY one could maybe add a stove jack to a tarp tent for hot tarp?

Ive recently bought the cloud peak 2 as my first ever 2 man tent for solo camping. Been camping for years but with family in big tents 6 berth plus with multi bedrooms etc. not used it yet but looking forward to a few nights on my own

@SummitOrNothing

Жыл бұрын

I'm sure you'll enjoy the lightweight(ish) camping. Cheers for watching

To solve the issue of zips snagging on the cloud peak 2 I use a small piece of velcro wrapped around the end of the pole next to the zip and attached to the zip cover flap. This holds the flap clear of the zip and prevents snagging. I have found snagging more probable when flysheet is. wet 0:02

I have the Hubba Hubba NX2 and it's a palace. I've got the Fjallraven Abisko Lite 1 for four season camping and smaller pitches.

Great video! I feel a spicy comments section coming up!

elixir every time! I've been out in high winds and never had bent poles

I really liked the nature hike free , a free man tent gives plenty of room 😉

Great vid 👌

@SummitOrNothing

Жыл бұрын

Thanks Dan!

I use a carabiner to hold the roof cap to the tie out point on the cloud peak works a treat

@SummitOrNothing

Жыл бұрын

Great tip, cheers!

I do wonder how the tent manufactures lab tests compare to the full force of Mother Nature on a bad day. I just sold my Lanshan 2 standard and bought a Wild Country Zephyros compact 1. Not sure I've made the right choice! 🤨 Only time will tell. Thanks for the video, really interesting. x

Top video as always Trev, you have a wealth of experience when it comes to this, you could stay you are out.....standing in your field! 🧍‍♀️ 🏕 Hope the move has gone well, is there enough room in your new garden to get a picth or two? Have a great week, Ceri and Kat ☕️❤️👍

@SummitOrNothing

Жыл бұрын

🤣🤣 you make me sound like a scarecrow. Move has gone well thanks, and yep, there's room for a tent or three on the lawn now. That was the clincher!

i just got my exogen 1 tent today after several years of waiting for them to come back in stock

I just bought a Helm 1 and highly reccomend it. It comes in Helm 1 and 2, and think you showed a mixed specs of the two there, as the Helm 1 is defo under 2kg, and also less than £200 (I paid £140). The Helm 2 has 2 doors and has the weight and RRP you mentioned. The Helm 1 won the award this year (last year?), but the Helm 2 has also won previous awards. Most people who want space go for the Helm 2. The aditional weight is quite minimal for the amount of extra space you get. I only went for the Helm 1 as I wanted a low floor footprint, but didn't fancy the coffin feel of tunnel tents! It seemed the best intro to 1 man tent camping, and will see me through most adventures I'll be having. I prob will get myself a lanshan at some point. That does seem a perfect multi day hiking tent.

I bought a quechua quickhiker 2 from Decathlon 2 years ago. A bit on the heavy side but perfect for South African conditions. I do believe NatureHike is a good brand but if you on a budget the quechua quickhiker 2 is great. I prefer a 2 man tent as I prefer keeping my bag inside. Don't want no snake or scorpion making itself comfortable in my hiking luggage😁

@SummitOrNothing

Жыл бұрын

Yea, have yet to try the Quechua tents. I hear they are decent on a budget. Cheers for watching.

Big fan of the Lanshan 1

I opted for the hardly mentioned naturehike star river. Cracking tent, nice and roomy. My decision was based on price and your own review Trevor.

@SummitOrNothing

Жыл бұрын

Yea, the star River had a few votes, but just not enough to make the top 10. Is a great tent though!

The free F U L looks decent 👌

Got a Vango Banshee Pro.. Great stealthy little tent for wild camping 👍

@SummitOrNothing

Жыл бұрын

That it is!

@stevenvitali7404

Жыл бұрын

I'm thinking of getting a Banshee 200, I'm currently using the Vango soul that cost £40

Lanshan 2 is a great tent, the ground conditions will let you down before the tent will. I had it on the top of kinder, in the heavy wind and rain and held up fine. Cloudpeak 2 is another great tent

@SummitOrNothing

Жыл бұрын

That's great to hear. Must be about 2 years since I had the Lanshan out. May have to get back in it soon. Cheers!

Great top ten but I have to say I have never used any of them... LOL I do have a Lanshan knock off the One Tigris Tangram... I do like it.

@SummitOrNothing

Жыл бұрын

Yes, Max. Once I worked out how to put it up I quite enjoyed the Tangram too.

Vango for the win !

My phoxx 2 has the outer tied to the inner so it goes up together. I have been looking at upgrading though, I was looking at the msr elixer but it's got some terrible reviews. I might look at a naturehike ones.

With the lanshans only the “pro” versions you have to seam seal yourself ,I have the lanshan 2 and that’s already done ,also the phlox 2 v2 you can put inner and outer up together,must of been different on v1 ,liking you’re videos of late ,keep them coming 👍

@SummitOrNothing

Жыл бұрын

Ah thats good to know. Handy if ypu can keep the fly and inner sheets together. Thanks for watching.

@excemptfrombs2124

Жыл бұрын

My fly and inner are always together ,thanks for the reply 👍

Hi, what do you think about the tent NTK Windy 1. Thank you.

I recently switched from the cloud up 2 to the Mongar 2. Cracking tent. Would love to see it featured in a wild camp video!

@chillaxstation1542

Жыл бұрын

Cloud up 2 or mongar 2? Which is better?

@SummitOrNothing

Жыл бұрын

I have taken the Mongar out once. Is a good tent.

I didn’t vote for my favorite but as a fully paid up member of the Lanshan 2 owners club i think you know where i would have cast it 😂 Great review Trev 👍👍

@SummitOrNothing

Жыл бұрын

Cheers Dave! Hope you're keeping well, mate!

@everyoneknowsadave3580

Жыл бұрын

both doing great... were currently out west (Oregon, California now Nevada) doing a Rogue river rafting trip (video to follow) and some awesome day hikes. We did one around Mt Shasta area.... that was awesome especially the views of the mountain ... frankly my photos i posted on instagram and alike didnt do it justice... i need Nath's composition eye!! atb Dave Mc

@SummitOrNothing

Жыл бұрын

@@everyoneknowsadave3580 Sounds awesome mate. Great stuff!

Lanshan (two person) is quite weak in the wind (it catches slithest wind like a sail, ripped one of guide lines and collapsed on me) and very bad in a fog/dam weather. Maybe 4 season is more closed to stop the moist weather coming in.

Top ten tents pop pickers🏕

Great vid Trev. I notice they do the VIK 1 in green now 🤔 (next on the list maybe) ....Good to see the Lanshen is still No:1 😎👍

@SummitOrNothing

Жыл бұрын

Ah, I javent seen the green Vik yet. Worth a punt I reckon.

having been suckered into buying a NatureHike cloudpeak 2 i really wished i hadn`t , the new oval door design is quite simply moronic!! what on earth were Naturehike thinking?? i`ve only used it once and already considering selling it on! i`m out this weekend and i shall be taking the trusty ol` Banshee ........ great vid yet again Trev

@rooksfoot1184

Жыл бұрын

Hey man bumped into you couple of years back on the moor...hope u had a good one in ur banshee 300 with ur smoked salmon down by the river... ATB bud (i was in a cloud peak2 but the one with the old doors :) ) (edit found that crazy stone on the river u mentioned next trip.. cheers)

@waynus2021

Жыл бұрын

@@rooksfoot1184 yes i remember you guys , glad you found it , wish that old door configuration still existed

My wife and I wildcamp on Dartmoor. We use the Robens lodge 2. It's never mentioned in tent reviews. It has 2 doors, 2 vestibule, good headroom and 5000mm HH. It's a bit heavy at 3.1kg but we split it evenly between us. Usually 40lb for me and 15lb for Sue, maths isn't my strong point.

@fishermansid8861

Жыл бұрын

How long you gone for 2 weeks.

@SummitOrNothing

Жыл бұрын

Haha... yea, think that's probably 50/50... right?🤔

How does the cloud up 1 hold up in wind?

Can't believe there wasn't a Nordisk Telemark of any description in there!

Vik 2 should be a good option. It has two doors and vestibules. Compared to "1 person" it's ventilated at the bottom. Weight is about 1,5kg.

@SummitOrNothing

Жыл бұрын

I should have a look at somepoint. Cheers!

what about the six moon lunar solo...

It's only the lanshan pro that you need to seam seal. I have it but it's not my favourite tent. I would put the cloud peak above it.

@SummitOrNothing

Жыл бұрын

Cheers Gus. Thanks for your feedback!

Only 1 Vango on the list 😲

I would love to see how people go tarp camping in Australia. Dead by morning

@SummitOrNothing

4 ай бұрын

Yea, I can imagine you wouldn't get much sleep either 😨

I really want to try the lanshan. I have 2 cloud peak 2s and was thinking about checking some of the FB groups to see if anyone would like to do a swap.

@SummitOrNothing

Жыл бұрын

I'm sure someone will.

I'd pick the OEX Bobcat over all of these, light, bomb proof, cheap, and outer pitch. All I use now.

@SummitOrNothing

Жыл бұрын

Didn't quite get the numbers to make top 10, I'm afraid mate. One I still have to check out!

@nickhealy9047

Жыл бұрын

Interesting! This is the same design as my 40 year old terra nova solar, which I use when I'm out on my own. It's good to know I can replace it if mine gets damaged.

@lsimmons4767

Жыл бұрын

@@nickhealy9047 Just looked, absolutely the same looking. After first pitch you can leave the inner attached on the Bob. It's taken some absolute batterings on Dartmoor and stayed dry and up. For less than a ton can't go wrong. If yours ever fails that is. 🤣

What are the three seasons the second tent is rated for?

@SummitOrNothing

Жыл бұрын

I'd imagine spring, summer, autumn

I thought the 3f UL Gear Taiji 2 would have made the list 🤔

@SummitOrNothing

Жыл бұрын

Didn't quite make it, Gaz

@GrizzlyGaz

Жыл бұрын

@@SummitOrNothing maybe next time when more people have used it 🤣

where is 3f UL Gear Taiji 2 ?

There seems to be a peculiar snobbery in the selections - the higher up its voted the more problems noted. And a tarp makes no4 in a tent list!

You got mugged by the Lanshan owners club. 😂

No chance you'd ever get me in a Lanshan. I'm 6"3. For me it is number 2 on the list. The Cloud Peak 2. A bit on the short side, but it is a push to get a tent long enough for me, and this is the best I've found .... so far

@bearpaws5942

Жыл бұрын

Please have a look at the Hyke&Byke zion 1P. I'm 6'3 200lbs and it's the same spec as the MSR Elixir.. and only £109 .. have a look the company have been fantastic. Its been my go to tent now, used in the Arrochar Alps and Queen Elizabeth Forest Park. Very versatile 👌

@antduke2361

Жыл бұрын

You tried a lanshan pro tent they are a lot more roomy than the standard lanshan, I'm 6.3 and just fitted in length wise

@bearpaws5942

Жыл бұрын

I'm not 100% liking the single skin for the Scottish climate. Fair weather it would work well and the weight is incredible fir multi-day hikes. It's definitely a tent that I've given much thought to but haven't ventured with yet. Never say Never.. but for the moment I'm incredibly surprised and pleased with the quality of the Zion 1P

@Escrublet

Жыл бұрын

@@bearpaws5942 the new 2021 lanshan 2 non pro is the same size 230cm as the pro and is double skinned. Best of both worlds?

@bearpaws5942

Жыл бұрын

@@Escrublet I had no idea. Thanks I'll get into it. Thanks

I was looking at a VW California, but realised at around 72k its never going to happen, so at one hundredth of the cost, I will get a North Face Summit series Assault 2, single skin tent, easy to put up and simple. 720 quid is a lot for a tent, but nothing compared to a VW camper van. Edit, coming from Scotland a tarp tent would be no use in this midgie infested land

I didnt take part so am wondering what was the criteria and how the scores are calculated. Anyhow, I am sure we would like this to run again soon for 2023 given this video is 11 months ago. Can it be split out between 1p and 2p tents? categories then the general favourite?

@SummitOrNothing

10 ай бұрын

I just ask people to comment on a community post to which are their favourite tents and then just tally up the results. I think I' probably do this every two years to get different results though, as this past year I havent earned too many new subscribers due to inactivity on my behalf!

@Tanko3691

10 ай бұрын

@@SummitOrNothing I have felt a little complacent lately but c'mon fella, dig deep, 🙂kind regards.

I watch these videos for grounding. There's so much BS on the internet. This makes me feel normal. Even though, it's abstract. Say's a lot about our mad world.

Hate to teak it to you, but The OneTigres Tangram is a better tent than the lansham

A bit disappointed that the Hilleberg Soulo BL didn't make the top ten - I think it is the ideal lightweight budget tent!

@davids9549

Жыл бұрын

The price may have something to do with that!

@phil.clarke

Жыл бұрын

@@davids9549 Depends on your budget!

@davids9549

Жыл бұрын

@@phil.clarke My point exactly!

@SummitOrNothing

Жыл бұрын

Isnt it like £800? I think the term budget tent only really defines any tent under £200 and a lot of my viewers are budget campers, which is why I think the Hilleberg didnt make the list this time around.

@phil.clarke

Жыл бұрын

@@SummitOrNothing I would be very interested if you did reviews of sub-£50 tents such as those offered for sale in Tesco or Aldi.

No idea how I missed the vote

@SummitOrNothing

Жыл бұрын

I shared on youtube and Facebook, John!

@cairnscrow8713

Жыл бұрын

@@SummitOrNothing Crickey still can't find it on your YT channel and never miss one but just looked and it's definitely on your FB. Ignore me I'm old 🤣

@cairnscrow8713

Жыл бұрын

Wait hold the bus found it, on the community page 😀

I just don't know how the so-called top-end tent manufacturers are still in business. How do they get away with charging two or three times more for what is increasingly a very similar product to the way-cheaper competition? Naturehike and 3Ful Gear tents seem to be getting better and better all the time. Really can't see a future for likes of MSR, Big Agnes etc. etc. Can someone tell me what I'm failing to see?

1st ❤️☕️🦡👍

comparing apples with pears is not really helpful ...

Can you just always consider the backpack? How can you sleep 2 people plus 2 backpacks in a tent for 2? Stop just to review tent for 2

@SummitOrNothing

Жыл бұрын

You'd select a 3 man, obviously. I always say that 2 man tents are pretty tight for 2 people, I use them for myself alone