Tony White's Syracuse Defense (History and Film Study of White's 3-3-5 Defense)

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In this video, we trace the origins and history of the 3-3-5 defense ran by Defensive Coordinator Tony White' with the Syracuse Orange football program. We'll see how this defense had its origin in the creative defenses that Joe Lee Dunn ran at New Mexico in the 1980's, how Dunn developed those defenses into the 3-3-5, and how White's mentor Rocky Long took over those ideas and developed them at schools like Oregon State, UCLA, New Mexico, and San Diego State. We'll also see what makes this version of 3-3-5 defense different from the one run by Jon Heacock with the Iowa State Cyclones.

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  • @collinmichaels214
    @collinmichaels214 Жыл бұрын

    Anyone else a Nebraska fan who came to this video to see an in-depth look at who Tony White is?

  • @jacobr5934

    @jacobr5934

    Жыл бұрын

    GBR baby!!

  • @haze4840248

    @haze4840248

    Жыл бұрын

    GBR

  • @Roger402

    @Roger402

    Жыл бұрын

    GBR

  • @TRex595

    @TRex595

    Жыл бұрын

    GBR!

  • @mitchmurphy4225

    @mitchmurphy4225

    Жыл бұрын

    Yess😑

  • @jacobr5934
    @jacobr5934 Жыл бұрын

    Nebraska fan. I was excited about the hire, but this video got me even more excited. #GBr

  • @GonadOBrien
    @GonadOBrien Жыл бұрын

    This is an excellent breakdown and I look forward to Tony White bringing the 3-3-5 to Nebraska. But I still think Nebraska should try to run the 3-4-5 as often as they can get away with it. Because, let's face it, my Huskers need all the help they can get.

  • @EngineeringUSA

    @EngineeringUSA

    Жыл бұрын

    You can't run a 3-4-5.. I mean you can, but then you're asking for a penalty for having too many players on the field lol.

  • @michaellandauer4245

    @michaellandauer4245

    Жыл бұрын

    That was the point

  • @admthrawnuru

    @admthrawnuru

    Жыл бұрын

    Lol, I've said for years we really need to step up our ref bribing game to allow strategies like this. Let's go for broke and run a 4-4-5

  • @tranmer32
    @tranmer32 Жыл бұрын

    Welcome to Nebraska Tony White!

  • @K-Bronz15
    @K-Bronz15 Жыл бұрын

    Love the deep dive. Played in a 3-3-5 in college. You hit it spot on this defense was made to attack pro style offenses. I had a lot of fun/freedom in this defense.

  • @thescatman5029
    @thescatman5029 Жыл бұрын

    Tony White will be coordinating Super Bowl defenses, one day!

  • @woodsroots4738
    @woodsroots4738 Жыл бұрын

    yes bro been waiting. great content

  • @mrmike9803
    @mrmike9803 Жыл бұрын

    The details in and quality of your videos are second to none. Your content is awesome. Keep up the great work.

  • @TheCoordinatorProject

    @TheCoordinatorProject

    Жыл бұрын

    Thank you so much!

  • @bobhingst65
    @bobhingst65 Жыл бұрын

    Great breakdown!! Excited to see all the situational possibilities tweaked to our players! This, I feel is why Butler came back and probably has Nelson frothing at the mouth! Perfect D for Fiest too!

  • @robdawgsports1060
    @robdawgsports1060 Жыл бұрын

    Love the video coach, someone linked it on Reddit when someone asked for differences between Heacock’s 3-3 and this defense. I’d love to see a breakdown of Dave Aranda’s tite 3-4 if you haven’t already

  • @TheCoordinatorProject

    @TheCoordinatorProject

    Жыл бұрын

    I did a matchup breakdown of Baylor vs. Oklahoma in 2021, but beyond that Aranda's a guy that I'll definitely treat more in the future. In researching these videos, I've gotten really interested in a Mountain West school of defense that popped up from 2008-2012 or so (with Aranda and Justin Wilcox being key figures, with take-off coaches like Todd Orlando, Gary Andersen, and others coming along for the ride) and I think there's a lot of schematic history to be written about that period. In the meantime, look out for my upcoming Alabama video, where some indirect comments on Ron Roberts will play a surprising role!

  • @DukeMadison
    @DukeMadison Жыл бұрын

    Great video

  • @RZA36
    @RZA36 Жыл бұрын

    Another masterpiece. This one hits close to home. Go Devils!!

  • @TheCoordinatorProject

    @TheCoordinatorProject

    Жыл бұрын

    Herm's connection to SDSU might've been the catalyst that this defense needed to go mainstream. It's crazy to me that basically nobody from this tree worked their way up to a P5 job until 2018. Brady Hoke's the exception, but he had Michigan ties that weren't based on his connection to this defense. I think that Long's 3-3-5 has a lot to contribute to this new 3-high world that we're moving into now vs. the spread, and I hope that guy's like White and Arnett make some noise so that these ideas can start getting pushed a little bit more. I think it'd be good for schematic history in the long run.

  • @RZA36

    @RZA36

    Жыл бұрын

    ​@@TheCoordinatorProject Absolutely. The 335 is solid, but its tough to recruit defensive linemen and pass rushers using it. Most recruits want to play for NFL style defenses , thus you have to rely on getting gems in the rough and develop them for a few years. Its a great system when you're building a program that lacks talent (ASU..thanks Todd Graham!), but I think the 335 tends to hit a wall when it comes to stopping good P5 schools week in and week out. This video compliments your ASU 4-3 video marvelously.

  • @TheCoordinatorProject

    @TheCoordinatorProject

    Жыл бұрын

    Yeah, it's kind of a weird combination of positions from a projection standpoint. You're really recruiting a 3-4 DL with 4-3 LB's, but they fit together like neither of those systems. The main position that doesn't exist in the 3-3-5 is the pure EDGE rusher, which I think is what Pierce was talking about being unable to recruit; LB's have to be able to stack and pursue (requiring more range than a typical EDGE), and DL aren't typically edge rushers, so that''s one highlight-reel position that the defense doesn't have. If you think of the LB's as 4-3 LB's, though, then quick, penetrating guys who can get after the passer have a ton of value in modern NFL defenses, and the DL should project either to a big, space-eating 3-4 DL, or to a smaller, stunting/penetrating 4-3 DT. Once one of these coaches makes some noise at the P5 level, I think that people's imaginations will get a lot better in recruiting and scouting, because this defense is only becoming more relevant with some of the anti-spread developments that are happening throughout college and the NFL.

  • @colinshumate9977
    @colinshumate9977 Жыл бұрын

    Awesome breakdown. Played for Coach Long at SDSU so know it well. Great job of explaining a complicated and extremely fun system.

  • @jason2174

    @jason2174

    Жыл бұрын

    How did you find that it did against power run teams or 12 personnel?

  • @colinshumate9977

    @colinshumate9977

    Жыл бұрын

    @@jason2174 highly adaptable to any personnel. Like video shows different methods for play to unfold into a 4 or 5 man front.

  • @TheCoordinatorProject

    @TheCoordinatorProject

    Жыл бұрын

    That's a pretty great endorsement, hah! Glad you liked it.

  • @AK-ug1md
    @AK-ug1md Жыл бұрын

    Awesome football lesson again. The historic framework is gives the necessary depth to understand what’s going on. Your breakdowns that in the progression and evolution of schemes. So much more than 11v11 !!! Side note: Do you expect and or foresee any changes to the schemes or play calling for Cal on both sides of the ball ? Off the cuff question… why is JW hanging on to BM ? Why doesn’t BM call every game similar to the last big game … the players looked as if the strings holding them back were cut loose

  • @TheCoordinatorProject

    @TheCoordinatorProject

    Жыл бұрын

    At its schematic best, BM's offense can rival the Stanford offenses that we saw until 5-6 years ago. Super precise, slice-and-dice run game in the front with multiple TE's and a FB. The OL has been a massive problem toward realizing that vision, and when you look at our OL coach's resume, you see that there's really no reason to believe in him, IMO. Do we really want an OL coach whose peak was coaching for Rick Neuheisel's UCLA teams? Assistant hires matter, and on the offensive side of the ball we don't have many guys that anyone else would want. It's easy to blame that on budget, but there are always coaches out there for guys who know how to find them. If Wilcox had that eye, he would've been successful and, frankly, would've probably been out of here.

  • @stevebodanis9461
    @stevebodanis9461 Жыл бұрын

    Would love to see something on Kevin Steele’s defence to see how he can elevate the Hurricanes

  • @AlecKollman
    @AlecKollman Жыл бұрын

    Go big red!

  • @LeeWinkler
    @LeeWinkler Жыл бұрын

    Great Video! You will have a ton of Nebraska people on this video. Can you help me understand how this defensive scheme is different (if at all) than the one Bo Pellini ran while at Nebraska? Seems VERY similar. Base Nickel...a lobo (he called it a Peso at nebraska) Bo ran a 2 gap defensive front with 4 down "most" of time. But often had someone else come up in run support.

  • @TheCoordinatorProject

    @TheCoordinatorProject

    Жыл бұрын

    I haven't done a Pellini study, but my understanding is that he was much more of a true 4-down front guy. In any defense you'll have ways to get 4 and 5 first-level defenders, but in the 3-3 that fourth guy can be any one of the three LB's, so there's more versatility in how you get into different looks (guys in this tree will literally say "We have five different ways to get into an Over front." It's something that they see as a huge part of their system). Also, White's defense isn't particularly big on 2-gapping, with a lot more movement and penetration, especially from the LB's that are adding in via the blitz. If you're using a blitzing LB to do the job that a DT would do in a more traditional 4-2 alignment, then that guy won't be 2-gapping over an OG! Again, I haven't studied Pellini, but was his Peso a guy who could play the deep middle like a FS, or was he more of a NB/OLB tweener (essentially a Nickel Sam LB)? From a personnel standpoint, the Long 3-3-5 is a lot closer to the three-high Nickel looks that are becoming trendy out of Iowa State, but the fronts and pressures are significantly more aggressive, so you'll get more guys in the box and more blitzing, with many fewer drop-8 coverages.

  • @lyndonyoung6756
    @lyndonyoung6756 Жыл бұрын

    Can you do jimbo and the Texas A&M offense. Seems like if that kind of offense can get a great qb they always score very easily.

  • @tonymills5086
    @tonymills5086 Жыл бұрын

    The big question is will this 335 defense work in the Big 10 does Nebraska defense have the horses up front

  • @codychase6809
    @codychase6809 Жыл бұрын

    Ok let's see what this man brings to the table. A littler nervous about the running game against this defense though 🤔

  • @botomcgee808
    @botomcgee808 Жыл бұрын

    Could you do Tommy Chang Hawaii?

  • @steveapplegarth4577
    @steveapplegarth4577 Жыл бұрын

    welp, im a nebraska fan, so i guess i should familiarize myself with this defense.

  • @diegoron66

    @diegoron66

    Жыл бұрын

    GBR🎈🎈🎈

  • @mathiasv2578

    @mathiasv2578

    Жыл бұрын

    Doing the same thing lol

  • @steveapplegarth4577

    @steveapplegarth4577

    Жыл бұрын

    seems sorta similar to the 3-4, and i remember some of polini's defenses having that peso position. i just know i never ran the 335 with any success in ncaa🤣

  • @popsmcgee4153
    @popsmcgee4153 Жыл бұрын

    Do Notre Dame Coaches

  • @dougabel9313
    @dougabel9313 Жыл бұрын

    Go Big Red!

  • @neighboredllc3746
    @neighboredllc3746 Жыл бұрын

    Go Big Red

  • @Kaitlynfunshort
    @Kaitlynfunshort Жыл бұрын

    Yep

  • @mikelilly7285
    @mikelilly7285 Жыл бұрын

    WVU used the 335 for years to blitz and it worked great. Then Rich Rod took it to Ann Arbor and it stunk. Guess we'll see...

  • @TheCoordinatorProject

    @TheCoordinatorProject

    Жыл бұрын

    I wouldn't worry too much about that comparison. RichRod's DC stayed at WVU when he went to Michigan, and the DC's that he brought to Ann Arbor weren't part of that coaching tree. The 3-3-5 was created in the era of pro-style 90's offense, and offenses across the country have only gone more spread in the 12 years since RichRod was at UM (not to say that it's the same in every conference, of course). Running this kind of thing just requires the understanding that you're relying on multiplicity and movement to attack the run game, and any time you're relying on scheme in that way, you're heavily dependent of your DC's gameplanning ability.

  • @briandoyle7146
    @briandoyle7146 Жыл бұрын

    Are you a consultant for these teams? what's your backround?

  • @TheCoordinatorProject

    @TheCoordinatorProject

    Жыл бұрын

    I wish, hah. I just started diving into coaching materials and doing film study about 12 years ago, and since then I've just been grinding and learning more every day. This channel is the pay-off of all that work.

  • @jdchatelain222

    @jdchatelain222

    Жыл бұрын

    Where you find a lot of this film footage mate? Good job btw. I like the dynamics and disruption ability of this D. Jus not sold yet against heavy run teams w huge linemen. IE Wisconsin and Minnesota ta name a few.

  • @jonrobichaud6332
    @jonrobichaud6332 Жыл бұрын

    How many Husker fans are here

  • @gotseoul123
    @gotseoul123 Жыл бұрын

    Syracuse loses a Rocky Long disciple and replaces him with Rocky Long himself. Gotta love it.

  • @setokaiba6436

    @setokaiba6436

    Жыл бұрын

    We got a coach from one of the worst teams in the country. Nice

  • @gotseoul123

    @gotseoul123

    Жыл бұрын

    @@setokaiba6436 when your total offense is ranked 100+ to have a defense ranked around 40 there is something there to behold...

  • @FodorPupil
    @FodorPupil Жыл бұрын

    GBR!

  • @jdneely9939
    @jdneely9939 Жыл бұрын

    Sry but this isn't reinventing the wheel.Living in the Midwest I see Iowa State doing this defense at higher level facing higher level opponents.

  • @stevebodanis9461

    @stevebodanis9461

    Жыл бұрын

    He did one on their defence

  • @hartsickdisciple

    @hartsickdisciple

    Жыл бұрын

    Generally speaking, Iowa State and Syracuse face roughly the same level of competition.

  • @jason2174

    @jason2174

    Жыл бұрын

    He mentions IS in this video multiple times dude

  • @wmwsmith1088
    @wmwsmith1088 Жыл бұрын

    Thanks for sharing hskrfn44

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