Leave it to me to make this about Clarence White. Thanks Marcel!

@mandohat

5 ай бұрын

We used to watch Kathy Chiavola's band a lot in the 1990's. Her backing band was Roy Huskey Jr., Brent Truitt, and Randy Howard, and Kathy could play great rhythm and sing her tail off. What a great band that was. This one of my favorite albums ever.

Sounds like the blind men describing an elephant. They're all right/correct about what they describe but focused on one part. Amazing discussion.

Seriously one of the hardest concepts to teach. Also, the Tony Rice school of rhythm playing is one of things that really distinguishes a folky/rock/country/campfire strumming style from driving bluegrass

I can't believe how many great videos you guys have made from just one IBMA!

Thank you for this ! Exciting stuff

This is an incredible video Marcel. Thank you.

Such a great video. Thank you!

Thankyou for making this video.

This was eye opening, thanks!

Jake (Workman) had the best take... "If it enhances groove, you're safe." Also his bit on creating a "bed" for the rest of the band to lay their parts on. I feel like those are great principles by which to approach rhythm.

What a vid. Thank you, guys.

Thanks Marcel, thoroughly enjoyed this. Jake is so good!

Thank you Marcel for this knowledge sharing vdo... 🙏🙏

Interesting. After Tony's passing, I heard interviews with Bela Fleck and Mike Marshall who seemed more in awe of Tony's rhythm playing than his lead work. Wyatt Rice's rhythm playing is in a similar vein, would be amazing to get an interview with him. Great video, thanks Marcel :)

Great vid, the guests killed it. Something about Trey's playing there 😮‍💨

Immediate upvote for the TMNT reference. One of my all time favs. You’re awesome, Marcel ❤

So many mention Clarence. He was a monster rhythm player and you hear so much Clarence in Tony it’s amazing.

There was some excellent ideas to incorporate into my songs!

Cool! I like the clip about Kathy Chiavola album, she's a dear dear friend of us! ♥

At around 1:43, this is basically how I started learning how to play rhythm exactly. Jake Eddy nails it, that's definitely some awesome listening there, every player in this video is awesome and dropping gold. Great video Marcel!

Maybe it's out there, but I don't see it much, (maybe in Molly Tuttle's vids) is this kind of video where you hear from the top players and they expand on how and what they play. Great job Marcel!! You da Man!

This is so good

Would love to see a similar video on Jimmy Martin rhythm.

@michaeljstonemusic

5 ай бұрын

I second this!

@JFord1234

5 ай бұрын

3rd

@JosephusDalrymple

5 ай бұрын

Fourth

@Bassnbanjos

5 ай бұрын

Or Dan tyminski!! His rhythm is incredible and somewhat overshadowed by the great TR

Thanks!❤

@LessonsWithMarcel

5 ай бұрын

You're welcome!

This is THE question I’ve been asking myself for four years.

Chris has the best take, IMHO. He grew up hearing Tony and stayed with Tony and I think he captures the essence the best. Tony's rhythm has _always_ attracted me more than his lead playing. I've definitely stolen things from his lead, but Charles Sawtelle's lead attracts me as much as Tony's. Story time... At Merlefest one year, the DGQ was doing a "workshop" where they actually ended up just playing tunes. Tony went backstage for a ciggie and Mike Marshall took over on guitar. Band's playing along. Tony comes back mid-song, steps up to the mic... HOLY COW.... the sound just exploded. You could hardly pick out Tony's actual playing in the context of the band until you took it away and then put it back.

Love the old school TMNT reference. Deep cut

Enjoyed these artists input and analysis….Be interesting to hear Josh Williams take on it as well…

I'm sorry, I have to say it... we are missing Richard Bennett here. The double o, triple og of Tony's rythm....

Great stuff. Clarence’s model was Jimmy Martin.

In the first part when you were talking to Jake Eddy, how were you able to get an isolated backing track of Kathy Chiavola’s Tears on my pillow? Is there some software you’re using that can pull out the vocal that completely to reveal in this case Tony Rices rhythm part? Or do you just have some connection at the studio that gave you a mix minus the vocal? That would be some very useful software if it exists. And one highlight for me of this video was to see how Jake Workman handles the super fast rhythm playing on tunes like Black Eyed Susie cause I think that’s one of the hardest things to do well. To see how loose his wrist was and how in the pocket his rhythm is was great to see. And it was interesting to hear everyone else’s demonstration of Tony’s rhythm playing. Great video!

@akgoldman

5 ай бұрын

I was wondering the same! How'd they isolate Tony's rhythm track?

Listen to Birdland Breakdown or Neon tetra for some peak Tony Rice newgrass rhythm playing.

Rhythm guitar is the hardest instrument to hear in a mix for me and the least taught skill, rarely going much beyond boom chuck. Please do one of these for Dan Tyminkski!!!

YES , HOME FROM THE FOREST IS MY MAIN ONE TO LEARN HIS RHYTHM .

How does one isolate tracks? To better listen to the rhythm parts

Next time, you should get Jason Keiser. He learned straight from Wyatt Rice. His rhythm is playing is really good.

How about Tony Wray rhythm?? #ForReal

My style is like the last guys style. Feel like I'm doin something right.

@oldtimetinfoilhatwearer

5 ай бұрын

If you can play like that you should enter in some flatpicking contests

Excellent video Marcel!

Brian Stephens plays the Tony rythym closer than anyone.

A common theme seems to be Clarence.

Your private lessons link dont work on your site. :)

Good call on the Kathy Chiavola record. Tony's not on the whole album, but he's on enough of it. There's another song he and Bela Fleck play on called "It Won't Be Long," that is a-MAZ-ing. kzread.info/dash/bejne/aX2Mj4-Te9LLdbg.htmlfeature=shared

Interestingly, non of these players really do the rice style rhythm except maybe Critter. No disrespect intended as they’re all mind blowing. They just don’t really do it. There’s so many laws broken with double down strokes, etc. planted right hand that then fluctuates between anchored and free. Lots of characteristic bass runs and syncopation. I reckon Wyatt is the closest on the planet ~ he is the real deal. Perhaps more single notes than Tony but gosh, they’re close. Tony also changed as he got older. It became more of a kinda wave than segmentation.

Nice job but difficult to pin down without discussing his playing in context with his influences such as Clarence and Jimmy Martin. Especially difficult to just describe what he played without discussing what an influence JD Crowe had on Tony since guitar rhythm after all is an interactive sport. It would have been nice to hear from some of the more foundational players still with us such as Larry Sparks or Del McCoury and make it more generally about what makes good bluegrass guitar rhythm first as a foundation then get into Tony. Without it, this discussion is less grounded and limited to describing the cool shit he would play.

Crispy playing by all involved. Dang.

Man that guitar is a cannon (Jake’s)

@stevengerig6247

Ай бұрын

I have that same guitar. Jake told me that with is eyes closed he could tell it from his. I'm keeping my Collings!!! It has the Jake Workman seal of approval.

Interesting Social experiment...

Allen Tolbert In Birmingham knew Tony and has the closest rhythm to him I’ve ever heard

Damn that guy was pretty not cool about the ninja turtle reference…..

Crack team? Billy?

@williamtrakas3142

5 ай бұрын

Are you saying that you need Billy Strings to have a crack team of bluegrass guitar players?

@alan4sure

5 ай бұрын

​@@williamtrakas3142 Lol😅