Tony Martin is criminally underrated as a singer. The song Headless Cross is a testament to this singing prowress.

@jeffjackson9679

2 жыл бұрын

His singing and Powell's drumming was incredible on that song. With all due respect to Bill Ward and Appice, Powell will always be my favorite drummer for Sabbath.

@Roadking26

2 жыл бұрын

That whole album rocks. Cozy has always been my favorite drummer. I know Peart was king, but Cozy just always hit a note with me. I also loved cross purposes. I love I Witness. With Robbie

@bumpyroad3251

2 жыл бұрын

The whole album was great.

@javodeoz

Жыл бұрын

For me, when death calls

@gianthills

Жыл бұрын

He is average,which is why sabbath was in tank.

The Tony Martin era is musically impeccable.

Kudos to Tony Martin for sticking up for Bill Ward!

@csnide6702

2 жыл бұрын

Bill Ward has stated many times that he holds NO ILL WILL toward anyone in Sabbath....... And Sabbath says to a man in the video for the last show they wished Bill could have played there..... I just think everyone is looking for hate where there is none.

Tony Martin never gets the respect he deserves.

Tony Martin is a very good guy. Tony's era in Black Sabbath is criminally underrated big time. I love Cross Purposes, and especially The Headless Cross, The Eternal Idol, and TYR alot. The Headless Cross album in my opinion is a MASTERPIECE! I love every song on it, especially When Death Calls. I hate that Tony Martin did not get the recognition that he deserved in his time in Black Sabbath. I am glad that he is finally getting some recognition for his latest album Thorns. It is an amazing album. I can not wait until the Tony Martin era of Black Sabbath albums gets remastered and rereleased with hopefully bonus studio and live songs. I will definitely be buying them.

@user-rh6sc5bn5e

2 жыл бұрын

💯👍

@batphink2655

3 ай бұрын

That should be this month May 2024, enjoy!

I love the Tony Martin era, my dad has bought every Sabbath album since they first became a band and I remember hearing Headless Cross in the late 80s when my dad bought it and I was immediately hooked.

That was the biggest mistake to let Tony Martin go. Tony's voice is amazing and he contributed so much to Sabbath. What a shame a lot of great memories and music when Tony Martin was in. Only hope Tony Iommi can see this and hopefully one day start it up again.

Tony Martin is criminally underrated! Such a great singer. Love the albums he recorded with “Sabbath”, even if it was a different band back then. Imho It didn’t work out well because fans expected a different sound from Sabbath and/or wished Ozzy or Ronnie back…

@giaimant8619

2 жыл бұрын

Completely agree with you.

@giaimant8619

2 жыл бұрын

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@careful__Icarus

2 жыл бұрын

I agree about the Ozzy part that people didn't give Tony a chance. But essentially Tony is just a smoother edged Ronnie. Thats what Tony wanted,a continuation of the Dio sound. Tony delivered in the studio but faltered a bit live.

@zcustomcarnesi

2 жыл бұрын

He can't even come close to hitting those notes anymore . Go back 10-15 years ago when he was on your . The 2 albums with Sabbath were so polished it was really difficult to do live .

@Stargazer-px7fw

2 жыл бұрын

@@careful__Icarus Never saw him live, so I can’t tell. The studio albums are great though. “Thyr” & “Headless Cross” are classics! Even the first one (“Eternal Idol”) with him was great. Tony (Iommi) wanted initially to start a solo career, but the management forced him to use the Black Sabbath banner. That explains the sound of those albums as he wanted to go in another direction.

His new album is incredible.. he’s still got the voice and jeez its heavy

@Roadking26

2 ай бұрын

What is the title of the new album? I have everything. Even the bootlegs with Ray Gillan where he sang the eternal idol.

A talented singer that is criminally underrated.

I always liked Tony Martin and his tenure with Sabbath. Album "Tyr" was my first CD I've bought...

@newavatar2947

2 жыл бұрын

Did you have the one with the hidden bonus track "Suffer"?

@hexxon77

2 жыл бұрын

@@newavatar2947 No it is a "standard" issue with black insert.

@newavatar2947

2 жыл бұрын

@@hexxon77 Ok apparently the copy with the extra track is pretty rare

@gbh5912

Жыл бұрын

Great intro to the punch of true cd bit sound, anno mundi is one of the greatest opening tunes of any album and is a true experience and adventure in sounds.

Tony Martin is a great singer

@gbh5912

Жыл бұрын

The witch

@batphink2655

3 ай бұрын

@@gbh5912 So? What's that got to do with his singing?

@gbh5912

3 ай бұрын

@@batphink2655 It's an addition, Gary already stated he is a great singer so why do you want people to just repeat that over and over. Make your way out of the box

Tony Martin was a huge inspiration on my metal work…absolutely love the guy!

Saw Tony Martin fronting Black Sabbath in '90, '94 & '95! Brilliant Singer! 🤘🏻

@gbh5912

Жыл бұрын

I vote with you- truly unmatchable vocal intricacies, nothing like him

Martin ruled

I'm gonna go listen to some Tony Martin Sabbath tonight 🍻

@gbh5912

Жыл бұрын

Wise choice!! ..and this is from an Ozzy fan since mid 70s Martin is a human vocal instrument, the micro-fluxed complexities he materializes in sounds are only heard by the clear.

I remember seeing Tony in New York and well seeing is believing he was a great singer ,yes something different but nevertheless kicked ass. Hats off to you Tony for a great show….. keep on rockin

Tony martin: my favorite Sabbath singer.history did him dirty. While his era didnt have that same commercial record sucess as ozzy or dios? He still their best singer in my opinion

@thorstenkehde3453

2 жыл бұрын

I agree 100%. And even Forbidden(except the first track) is one of my favorite Sabbath albums. It' a shame that it seems impossible to treat people honestly. But that happened also to the musicians in Osbournes band.

@toma.4808

2 жыл бұрын

@@thorstenkehde3453 totally agree

@gbh5912

Жыл бұрын

@@thorstenkehde3453 Be real, any musician that got a chance to play with ozzys group was propelled to instant, incredible exposure, it's their insecurities and inexperiences that made them play the pity card- 'Shall I leave or shall I go' It's a jumbled mess to analyze without the confidence of working your way up, so to have sympathy for their sad song is to be a fool because a million musicians would gladly trade places with them in a second and be willing to take on that crossroad compared to never being heard of, that's the reality of those who never make it and can't understand how the lucky few turn on the ones who gave them their big break- Randy exploited his talents to the maxium at this chance, and earned his name because he gave everything he had to the project Others get hired, tour and think they are now equal partners? So many think the music industry is some bunch buddies partying

Headless Cross fue un álbum increíble, Tony Martín aún puede dar su mejor álbum con Iommy, en verdad me gustaría que hicieran algo.

I urge ALL Sabbath and Heavy Rock fans to check out Tony Martins era, what a vocalist!

Headless Cross is as good as any of the Dio or non Ozzy albums

@tommymaier3017

Жыл бұрын

lol

I must say the new remixed albums sound much better and as a long time Black Sabbath fan I think looking back over history it is clear to me that Tony Martin is the best singer the band ever had because of his voice, range and professionalism he is the only one who could or would sing any song on all 19 albums.

Tony Martin's work with Sabbath is outstanding - Forbidden is a little on the weak side but the other albums are brilliant. Not sure what happened between the two Tony's but the fact that Martin's stuff isn't available on digital platforms is a crime in itself.

@gbh5912

Жыл бұрын

Agreed, and being blindly loyal to iommi is something I'm done with- he has grand accomplishments beyond any guitarist but has become mundane at most in his new songs, so why make new songs if you are not inspired to create?

I am looking forward to the Tony albums to re released

In actuality, Tony Iommi was at his best with Tony Martin!

@andrejz8954

2 жыл бұрын

Imho, he was just getting better as time went on. Some of his best work for me would be on Dehumanizer.. Or some Martin stuff. Very interesting songs like The hand that rocks the cradle, or especially Rusty angels (which is kinda Glamy Iommi) which are fine examples.

@csnide6702

2 жыл бұрын

You're high

@gbh5912

Жыл бұрын

@@csnide6702 Truth, iommi peaked with never say die and first two dio albums

@ColtraneTaylor

Жыл бұрын

@@andrejz8954 Rusty Angels is a near total copy of Burning Like a Flame by Dokken which came out 8 years prior!

@andrejz8954

Жыл бұрын

@@ColtraneTaylor listened to it now. Has same vibe, but harmonically/riffs are totally different. Kinda like paranoid and communication breakdown for example. Same type, different structure

Whilst I love Ozzy and Dio, I actually preferred Tony Martin. A truly awesome singer!

I really like Cross Purposes

Black sabbath used Tony Martin as a hired hand sticking plaster everytime dio. Or ozzy had a tiff…he did some great albums, live tours and I’m glad his albums are being remastered and reissued , long over due and I hope he gets paid this time

We need more Sabbath still.

I recognized nothing but great music when Tony Martin came in the picture. Maybe it shouldn't have been called Black Sabbath? But like any business losing or dropping a Band name after working so hard for it forced the SG man to carry on. In my honest opinion some of his greatest guitar work was done with Tony Martin on vocals.

@mickblack3291

Жыл бұрын

Maybe they could have called it Black Sucketh featuring Tony Martin?

Thorns is a fucking awesome album, Just like all the Sabbath albums Tony was on. Headless Cross is my favorite, but they are all great.

@andrejz8954

2 жыл бұрын

What thorns?

@elinino5275

2 жыл бұрын

@@andrejz8954 Tony Martin New solo record. Give it a listen on Spotify. You won't be disappointed

I would of loved to have seen an Iommi album with every ex singer and members of sabbath Such as Ozzy,Dio,Gillan,Hughes and Martin But obviously dio is no longer with us but hopefully there’s still some heaven and hell recordings even if it’s rough of dio for their 2nd album or unreleased tracks from ‘the devil you know’ Because iommi is one of my favourite guitar players and sabbath may be my favourite band and even though I’m a much bigger fan of the Ozzy albums I still love the dio stuff with sabbath and heaven and hell and I still love the other albums especially with Tony martin. To see an album like that with ex members of sabbath for either a sabbath album or a iommi solo album would absolutely be a dream come true for us sabbath fans

Iommi seems interested, Martin is interested, they might get Bobby Rondinelli, and Neil Murray is still around, seems like a pretty solid lineup IMO. About the name? considering they can´t use the Sabbath name, may I suggest HEADLESS CROSS or ETERNAL IDOL.

@gbh5912

Жыл бұрын

How about, "Leave iommi at home" He's done, was great but is done- Greatest guitarist of all time but needs to hang it up

@mickblack3291

Жыл бұрын

Maybe Black Sucketh?

A new album with all 4 original members should have happened in the late 90's.

@KRS2000

2 жыл бұрын

I agree. Maybe they would have had the song Scary Dreams on it. I guess we can say the closest we ever got to a "new" album from them was the Reunion album, and the only new song that Bill played drums on was Psycho Man.

@husq48

2 жыл бұрын

@@KRS2000 "Selling My Soul" as well.

@KRS2000

2 жыл бұрын

@@husq48 I read that they used a drum machine on that one track, because the original track they had with Bill was too out of time.

@husq48

2 жыл бұрын

@@KRS2000 ???

@KRS2000

2 жыл бұрын

@@husq48 It was listed in the notes on the Black Sabbath website under the Reunion album. Also in the album sleeve, where everyone is listed, Bill is credited with "Drums on Psycho Man". I'll have to go back and check through all of that since I haven't looked at that sleeve or web page in years.

Headless cross was awesome I really enjoy the debate on all the Sabbath singers I thought born again with Ian Gillan was great too

The truth is, Sharon Osbourne was a major player in Tony Martin's failure in Black Sabbath.

@csnide6702

2 жыл бұрын

She has been behind many failures........

@elinino5275

2 жыл бұрын

Exactly! Once she got control of 50% she made it a point to erase everyone else's contributions to the band

@cyann8eight739

2 жыл бұрын

Fucking witch always money hungry Ozzie should have found her weakness to End Her witching season.

@csnide6702

Жыл бұрын

@@gbh5912 so- you are saying without her Sabbath wouldn't be acknowledged...? 😅🤣😂 riiiight --- she has had SO much to do with how Tony Iommi plays guitar....😅😆😄 Sharon Alden Osborne is a LEECH on the scale of Col. Tom Parker - nothing more /nothing less.

I love Sabbath but I wouldn't want to be in a band with them.

@DarksaberForce

9 ай бұрын

The Tony Martin-Cozy Powell era seemed stable but unfortunately the band was signed to a label that didn't promote them well or got enough of their albums in store as Iommi himself stated about Headless Cross.

Annu Mundi

Bill has done reached the age where he doesn't have the energy to play heavy rock music and he's admitted that

Never mind this…. The most overlooked albums with Iommi were the solo efforts with Glenn Hughes handling the vocals classics in my view

@trowerz

2 жыл бұрын

NOW you’re talking!!🤘

@matjust5523

2 жыл бұрын

Yes and Glenn still has the pipes and can sing as good today as ever, I’m glad Glenn beat his demons and continues to rock today all hail the mighty Glenn hughes

@trowerz

2 жыл бұрын

@@matjust5523 Hughes RULEZ!!!

Cross Purposes Live is alright, but Tony Martin wasn't doing great vocally that tour. If you listen to bootlegs of any other tour before and after, he's on point. Here's hoping they can release live tracks from the respective tours of these albums as bonus tracks, that would be awesome.

Forbidden is a better album than 13.

@crusheverything4449

2 жыл бұрын

100%

@KRS2000

2 жыл бұрын

To this day I still haven't heard Forbidden, except for 2 tracks. As for 13, I wasn't really impressed. I think The Devil You Know was a far better album.

@RockbertoRocks

2 жыл бұрын

Exactly, Forbidden is Sabbath's best album since Born Again

@crusheverything4449

2 жыл бұрын

@@RockbertoRocks - Umm… no. Not by a long shot. It’s better than 13, but that’s a pretty low bar to clear. There’s no way it’s better than Dehumanizer or any of the other Tony Martin Sabbath albums and I don’t rate it higher than Seventh Star, either. I’d say it’s the second worst Sabbath album, but 13 is at the very bottom.

@mickblack3291

Жыл бұрын

Both albums were a waste of time, effort & money as much as l hate to say it, Martin era was an embarrassment & an abomination to me.

Bill Ward was offered 5% to Ozzys 60% and Tony and Geezers 35%. The Ardens have been an albatross around Black Sabbath’s neck their whole career. I hope they do a remix of Forbidden. Get Cozy’s drums to sound like on Headless Cross.

@richardhincemon

Жыл бұрын

Black Sabbath name is owned by Tony Iommi and Ozzy Osborne fifty fifty split anyone else is a paid employee Bill Ward was offered a contract to play on a couple of songs each night on the end tour which he turned down. He then canceled his own shows promoting his Accountable Beasts BWB album for health problems.

@spottss

10 ай бұрын

Why would Ozzy get more than Tony?

@DarksaberForce

9 ай бұрын

Sharon herself stated in a recent interview that Ozzy and Tony each own half of the Sabbath name. Geezer and Bill are considered 'paid employees '. Which is funny because Ozzy sued Tony over him after 100% control of the Sabbath brand because he's the only member who stayed and never abandoned the band. Ozzy initial claims that he wanted all four original members to own equal rights of Sabbath and yet he gets half while the two don't. No wonder Bill refused to come back. I actually wonder if Iommi wishes he was still with Tony Martin and Cozy Powell.

Tony Martin had hard acts to follow in Ozzy Ian Gillan and Dio so i think he did well to hold his own and record those 6 Albums with Sabbath , shame people did not accept him but it was like when Iron Maiden replaced Bruce with Blaze and that never worked as good as Tony Martin with Sabbath.

I consider Forbidden to be one of my overall favorite Martin albums....

Tony Martin is one of the best studio singers, he couldn't sing live if his life was dependent on it.

@Roadking26

Ай бұрын

@yoheff988 you have no vocal or musical training by your comment. I have been playing since I was 16. Both perfusional and have been playing bass guitar and guitar since I was 16. Post a link. One link of your work. I will post 3 of my instrumentals . A crappy mix because they were mixed straight from my 8 track. Hell, play something simple. Mine are all origimals

1:22 incredible photo so cool

There’s a typo in the headline of the video; should read Opportunity.

✟🤘✞⸸⁶⁶⁶⛧Iommi said he fired Tony Martin because he lacks Stage Presence Eddie Trunk That Metal Show Head-Banger's Ball!

@renecruz8973

Жыл бұрын

But I love those shows:: Cross Purposes (San José Event Center) & Forbidden (Warfield Theater SF) tours, unfortunately they canceled Seventh Star, Eternal Idol, Headless Cross & TYR tours here in San Francisco! Also Geezer Butler at the same time was doing his GZR solo band at Slim's, good times!✟🤘✞⸸⁶⁶⁶⛧

@richardhincemon

Жыл бұрын

@renecruz8973 Tony Martin was a great addition for Sabbath in the mid eighties and nineties I believe that the Reunion with Ozzy Osborne was inevitable which ended the Tony Martin Era unfortunately. I love all the albums he did with Sabbath and the new material they wrote together 🤘🖤✝️

Forbidden was good!!

Since Ozzy can't probably do a whole show anymore, how about a Sabbath reunion, with Ozzy and Tony Martin taking turn singing the songs they were best at?

@richardhincemon

25 күн бұрын

Tony Iommi and Geezer Butler have retired from touring

@tomsullivan2588

22 күн бұрын

@@richardhincemon It wouldn't have to be a tour, just a one or several show event.

Tony Martin was every bit as good as Dio/ Ozzy

@j.reveille6815

2 жыл бұрын

But not as good as Ray gillen.

@gbh5912

Жыл бұрын

@@j.reveille6815 Uugh

@Stargazer 2020 - I know several criminals who rate Tony Martin very highly!

Mr. Anthony Philip Hartford Mr. Anthony Frank Iommi

Next to Dio my fav Black Sabbath singer

@Seagull Rock Squawk - Tony Iommi, Geezer Butler and Bill Ward accepted Dio as a Sabbath member and that’s all that counts. Why let narrowmindedness get in the way of enjoying great music? Kinda silly, no?

@gbh5912

Жыл бұрын

Dio was far better solo

I thought they couldn't include The Eternal Idol in the reissues because someone else owns the rights.

@mikeynoclass8240

2 жыл бұрын

The Eternal Idol was on Warner Bros. and still available on CD. The other albums were on IRS and long out of print.

@michaelkeudel8770

2 жыл бұрын

We know Forbidden was remastered, but not yet released. And the master tapes for Born Again have been found, so that's supposed to also get remixed and remastered. When any of this actually gets released is another question all together.

@KRS2000

2 жыл бұрын

@@michaelkeudel8770 I thought Born Again was remastered and released years ago as a 2 disc special edition. Disc 1 was the album, and disc 2 had demos plus live songs from one of their shows, and then the demo for The Fallen. Unless that was something else altogether.

@michaelkeudel8770

2 жыл бұрын

@@KRS2000 they didn't have the medter tapes for the remix.

@KRS2000

2 жыл бұрын

@@michaelkeudel8770 I thought it was The Manor Tapes. Unless I'm thinking of something else.

Martin Is a real musician, he is involved in music of many styles- Love iommi but time he hangs it up, he has nothing left to contribute and is a legend and beyond so why putter out. His new songs have nothing inspiring, Ozzy has to carry the song through and thats cute but not ok for listeners, time iommi enjoys being retired, turning into a senile prick is a bad ending to a spectacular career

That was depressing?

Glad Tony Martin understands that Black Sabbath is Ozzy and Dio. He's a good back up.

@gbh5912

Жыл бұрын

Duhhhh, too bad you are so lost, oh well- good luck finding your way back .

What I want to know from him is why he went so OTT with the satanic stuff on Headless Cross.

@gbh5912

Жыл бұрын

The title should help you, the album is a theme from history and has many biblical connotations spoken of the times. People always questioned their motives and decisions with good and evil as their platform, to be satanic you'd have to promote it as a benefit which has nothing to do with this album-

@M.H.I.A.F.T.

Жыл бұрын

@@gbh5912 My question is why it bludgeons you with the satanism instead of approaching it in a more thoughtful way; have you read the lyrics to When Death Calls? Iommi also said in his biography that Martin was too 'in your face' with the subject matter (although he didn't make him change it at the time)

@gbh5912

Жыл бұрын

@@M.H.I.A.F.T. I find no Satanism expressed in that song- it's actually very Biblical and artistically intense. If you watch a movie about someone dying and they scream, God help me, does that make it a religious movie? Also, if they are screaming God help me, it's because the devil is taking their soul for judgment and the person is begging the very one that put the devil in charge of that department is what the song is really about, the first moments leading and into death according to the stories. Anything iommi has to say about singing should be kept to himself, he has really become an idiot. Martin is a true artist

@richardhincemon

Жыл бұрын

@johnandjosiedoe Those songs were more of a historical nature than satanic dealing with events that happened in Britain. The way Tyr dealt with Norse Mythology on the following album then Cross Purposes dealing with superstition.

@M.H.I.A.F.T.

Жыл бұрын

@@richardhincemon I know the title track was, but When Death Calls (in particular), Devil and Daughter, Call of the Wild, and Black Moon are all Satan this, Lucifer that etc

Sharon Osbourne made sure Tony was gone out the band as usual she has always tries to control everything

@gbh5912

Жыл бұрын

What? What does ozzy's wife have to do with iommi being a c*nt

It sad those great riffs were wasted... tony martin just wasn't good enough

@gbh5912

Жыл бұрын

Your ears aren't qualified, too bad

@tommymaier3017

Жыл бұрын

yep just a corny run of albums with Tony Martin

I never accept DIO as a Sabbath musician. They didn’t dare change the band name. Ridiculous.

@shaunduffy5180

2 жыл бұрын

Don't forget that wench Sharon Osbourne owns 50% of the Sabbath name. Wasn't their fault. That bitch is greedy and wouldn't think twice about suing someone...wouldnt b surprised if she was related to gene simmons

@Cincinnatus1869

2 жыл бұрын

They did change the band name eventually

@thorstenkehde3453

2 жыл бұрын

@@shaunduffy5180 yes, history proves that Ozzy is weak and under her control. But don't mind, when you are so greedy and treat other people so bad, you can't be happy.Every energy you send will come back. She will get what she deserves. We will see...

@HectorJimenez-ee9zi

2 жыл бұрын

The kept the name because the only musician that matters that makes sabbath is Iommi.

@gbh5912

Жыл бұрын

@@thorstenkehde3453 Glad someone grew balls to protect the name from theirselves, most dope heads sell everything then cry later, she is why all reunited, do you really believe these r+r pricks could pull their inflated egos together and be heard by you- you are actually cutting off the hand that feeds your musical pleasures-

Never listen to him

@gbh5912

Жыл бұрын

Are you still holding your breath and stomping your feet?

That is not Sabbath...

He should of never have called it black Sabbath