Amazon links: Polar Lights Enterprise kit 1:350 scale: amzn.to/3MfZCLS Lighting kit: amzn.to/3s5E8ug Weathering decals: amzn.to/3FvQMWn

@spaceace1006

6 ай бұрын

The Polar Lights TMP 1\350 Enterprise can turn out awesome if done by a talented modeler! JT Graphics have multiple registries for the 1\350 Connie Refit!

I’m just gonna say it man. The TOMY Is way better. Love the lighting and love that lit shuttle bay🎉🎉🎉

Very nice comparison in detail and value. As much as I am disappointed by Tomy's failure to close off the seams, the value of this piece is still great bringing us lights, detail and the solidity of a die-cast product.

@gravis2000

9 ай бұрын

I have one of these and I hear you. I think they probably put the cart before the horse a little bit it terms of design. I think they just ran out of time and money. $599.00 for this is a steal. The polar lights models are really great as well. Even they cost more than this thing did and plastic is far easier to deal with. If they didn't limit the production to such a small number maybe they could have had more design time over all I am happy with it. Heck a little bondo and some paint and I will have it perfect...LOL. Watch someone will do it.

The value of the Tomy model is just incredible, and its an amazing looking model and an incredible value. Can’t wait for their next one.

TOE--ME. I like the Polar lights.

I love the Tomy, looks amazing even with the flaws. Def worth the 600, but idk about the 1600 they are going for on eBay

@spaceace1006

6 ай бұрын

Maybe some kind of neoprene strip that could obscure that seam in the primary hull!

It's great having options for non-builders. I have friends who are eager for me to give up one of builds. TOMY looks like a durable option for them. I made my own mods and electronic boards which made the Polar Lights builds around $250 each (paint, glue, electronics) I did the original Pilot, the 2nd Pilot, the 2nd season clean, and the third season with weathering. I like the weathering on the PL prebuilt, but the rust ruing is weak. The colors of the bits on the TOMY were also more accurate. It would be nice if the bridge could be repositioned on the TOMY. My motors were digital motors that were extracted from old CD drives and driven by old 222 timers for the two ships that had spinning Bussard collectors. I have to admit making them is the fun for builders which is why we have too many replicas in our homes.

@TheRealCobraBurnout

8 ай бұрын

Nice!

I’m kicking myself for not getting that TOMY. I knew it would have some finish issues but the total light package, finished shuttle bay (including janky shuttles), and being die cast as opposed to styrene make it a ridiculous value. It even has the little “protruding phaser emitter” coming out of the sensor dome. Now these are $1500 on the secondary markets.

@TheRealCobraBurnout

8 ай бұрын

I contemplated cancelling my order when I saw the seam lines and such in the final photo. But glad I didn't. I like it. Pretty wild the markup on secondary market. Hopefully Tomy does another ship.

The advantage of the Polar Lights is that you can program the lights. There's a gentleman who programmed the lights on his Enterprise refit to match the Motion Picture opening, scene for scene. It's really awesome.

@TheRealCobraBurnout

8 ай бұрын

That would be excellent!

Both very nice, but the Tomy just displays so much better. It looks ALIVE, instead of just painted, detail is on point too. Shame about seams and screw caps, but I'm sure that can be hidden in some way. The Tomy looks like a studio shooting model

@TheRealCobraBurnout

9 ай бұрын

I do like the lights

@mistermatix8241

9 ай бұрын

@@TheRealCobraBurnout the light up detail is amazing. Know what would be REALLY awesome? A spacedock diorama, with the gantry surround, that could be done with 3D printing. I'd love to see Adam Savage tackle that. It would have been really nice to have miniature figures of the crew, Kirk, Spock, Uhura, Bones, Sulu and Chekov on the bridge. It's a bit strange seeing the bridge empty on such an iconic ship

The TOMY is very beautiful ! The painting is beautiful !

@goodwilj

9 ай бұрын

I know. I own TWO of them. One unboxed and put together, the other in storage to possibly be sold on ebay years from now. Right now these are selling for $1500+.

Wow that shuttle bay is awesome !

You did a really good job filming this. Especially the inside of the shuttlecraft bay.

@TheRealCobraBurnout

9 ай бұрын

Thanks

I had a chance at the Tomy but after the "flaws" I decided to go with the Polar lights Kit. I will build it according to the Smithsonian Enterprise with a few mods. I can build a better quality Enterprise for around the same $$. Honestly the shuttles were horrific and I love the shuttle and have a newer Polar lights kit of that too. These icons just need to be done right and honored in that way. LLaP!

@TheRealCobraBurnout

8 ай бұрын

Awesome. Please post up pictures or vid when your done. I like seeing high quality builds!

As a model builder I couldn't live with the seem lines on the Tomy kit. The polar lights kit is actually more correct when it comes to the streak marks on the ship. The Tomy model is more correct when it comes to the hull color and the color of the rust ring around the top of the saucer.

Thanks for such a great close up comparison; the TOMY has obvious seams but it does make up for it, via its stupendous lighting, and that clear dome bridge is just WOW !

@TheRealCobraBurnout

3 ай бұрын

Im glad i got the Tomy. Hopefully they do another ship

Definitely preferring the weathering on the Polar Lights model.

I knew I didn't like the weathering on the Tomy model, but I didn't really know why until I saw it next to the beautiful Polar Lights. So much more natural-looking.

Astronaut James T. Shatner approved.

Love mine, it's on point

tomy wins.. great video.. the lights really looks good.. the only bad thing was the shuttle craft it looks cool

saucer separation was talked about but too expensive to do in the 60's.. I think they had the money in the 90's to do the saucer separation.. awesome video ...

@TheRealCobraBurnout

4 ай бұрын

Much thanks

They both look very nice. I heard the Tomy has several attachment points and screws that are kind of unsightly. However, they're both a little too expensive for me.

@NyuuMikuru1

9 ай бұрын

The 1/350 is most under $100 in some places. I have both the TOS and the refit.

Very cool

I’m happy with my $39.99 Playmates TOS and TNG Enterprises.

The Tomy looks really impressive fully lit and with interior detailing, and all for $600! One question though, are the shuttles diecast as well? If they were plastic I cannot understand why the seams are so bad.

@TheRealCobraBurnout

9 ай бұрын

Yes, shuttles are diecast

Both look light years ahead of the AMT kit I assembled in the 70s. Still, with all the effort that went to the Tommy model, I don't know how they could miss the offset bridge. Thank you for the video.

@DunedinMultimedia2

9 ай бұрын

Those AMT kits! Built so many but I could never get the nacelles right.

Both are pretty cool!

@TheRealCobraBurnout

9 ай бұрын

Thanks Buddy

The Tomy's Enterprise looks great it does have one fault seams it should not be there that's my opinion .

They both look great, but I don't like the streaking nor yellowing. I just made the same comments on another video about the Tomy model, but one thing I did like about that was the patterned paint job on the bottom of the primary hull - that looked really good.

So cool

All things being equal I would go with your new one .. I just want it done!

@TheRealCobraBurnout

9 ай бұрын

The lights have an alluring charm. Do you have a light kit for your Polar Lights model?

Fantastic ships!

@TheRealCobraBurnout

9 ай бұрын

Much thanks

I'd have to vote the TOMY, for all they packed into it. Esp considering the price of the PL and what it doesn't have. However, I can't afford EITHER, so I will just have to be content with the latest Playmates NCC-1701 :)

@TheRealCobraBurnout

9 ай бұрын

Playmates can fit the need on a budget. Nothing wrong with that!

The touch sensor on is awesome.

Very cool. I wonder if we'll see the refit.

@TheRealCobraBurnout

9 ай бұрын

I hope so.

Tomy all the way!

Really like the paint and lights on the Tomy especially the warp domes and the shuttle bay and how they made the lights switch on looks nice the die cast is so solid looking! Would love to get one, love to see mcodel!B

@goodwilj

9 ай бұрын

Tomy kicked butt on the warp nacelle domes. They have 3 speeds you can spin them at too.

Thanks for the comparison. Hopefully someone will do one against the Master Replica version.

@TheRealCobraBurnout

9 ай бұрын

That would be excellent to see

💥💥

Those are awesome models!

@TheRealCobraBurnout

9 ай бұрын

Much thanks

I'm bummed I missed that crowdfund. I'd love to have that Tomy

@TheRealCobraBurnout

4 күн бұрын

They are about to do a Refit version

Beautiful 🖖

@TheRealCobraBurnout

8 ай бұрын

Thank you!

I actually got a polar lights NX-01 for about 30 bucks from my local Pat Catans before it shut down. It was not just the NX-01 but it came with the necessary parts for the refit model as well. I had no light kit for it tho.

@TheRealCobraBurnout

Ай бұрын

Nice

It’d be cool to compare the lighted Polar Lights model with the Tomy model.

I was wondering, do the port side windows on the rim of the saucer section light up at all? There appears to be one window fore and a cluster of windows to the aft.

@TheRealCobraBurnout

9 ай бұрын

Unfortunately, they are are just painted and not real

@bigguidokc7619

9 ай бұрын

@@TheRealCobraBurnout Well, that kind of stinks. I think they were being a bit too slavish to the original studio model. The digital version in the updated episodes has them lit and symmetrical. Oh, well…

TOMY is so much better in features and appearance. Awesome how the lights and interior can be seen.

I had to laugh at your comment about having the unbuilt Polar Lights Enterprise and lighting kit. I’m the same. I have a bunch of the Moebius and Polar Lights kits that are waiting to be built, but am just hesitant to start because of my limited skill sets!

@TheRealCobraBurnout

9 ай бұрын

Definitely where im at. Lol. I need to grab some smaller kits and build for practice.

@bigguidokc7619

9 ай бұрын

@@TheRealCobraBurnout Yeah, I’ve built some of the small Bandai Star Wars kits with some success. I’ve never lit a kit, but it seems pretty straightforward with the Polar Lights Enterprise light kit. I have the 1:350 pre-built model as well. The big question is, when they are done, where will they go?

3:55 Doug DREXLER told me that Matt Jefferies told him that the bridge faced forward and wasn’t offset

@TheRealCobraBurnout

9 ай бұрын

Did he mention where the toilet was?

Thanks for the review. Is the Tomy one still available? Googled it here in the UK and nothing comes up.

@gavc6442

9 ай бұрын

I don’t think it was available outside the US sadly

@TheRealCobraBurnout

9 ай бұрын

Seems like it wasn’t available everywhere. Somehow Australia got them first though.

I want one of these but I want a registry other than Enterprise! If they offered other registries, it might increase sales!!

Im ready Cobra 🐍

@TheRealCobraBurnout

9 ай бұрын

Excellent

Thats so easy. Polar Lights without question. The seams, the plugs, the thicker walls of the shuttle doors. The seams in the shuttles themselves.

Thanks.

@TheRealCobraBurnout

8 күн бұрын

You're welcome

Are they supposed to be streaky like that on the saucer?

@TheRealCobraBurnout

9 ай бұрын

Yes. Gene Roddenberry wanted weathering. Most of which wasn’t really visible in the original broadcast.

@inkermoy

9 ай бұрын

The streaking on the front of the saucer section is there on the restored model in the Smithsonian, but I think it's more subtle. Rest of the paint job looks amazing!

Wow nice ..youre ready to shoot a movie

Tomy refit from the Motion Pucture is on the way. I think this will be more popular than the TOS.

@TheRealCobraBurnout

19 күн бұрын

I signed up for the insider club or whatever they are calling it. I plan on getting one. Hopefully its awesome.

Having seen the filming model close up I can safely say that the "weathering" on both models is too strong and is too patterned for lack of a better word. It also had more blue to it and was used to accent the curve of the hull so it appeared better on camera. Adam Savage has a video discussing the restoration and shows many fine details.

@TheRealCobraBurnout

9 ай бұрын

I need to rewatch the Adam Savage vid. I remember that was a good vid

I could only imagine how the D version of this would be. And cost and weight, compared to what we are currently building.

@keyboardt8276

9 ай бұрын

The D would probably be 1/700 at most if it even comes out, 1/350 would be too risky for Tomy. I would get a 1/700 enterprise D in a heartbeat though.

@goodwilj

9 ай бұрын

I want the A (Star Trek Movie) version next!!

I’m assuming you’re supposed to paint over the weird striping effect on the saucer?

@TheRealCobraBurnout

8 ай бұрын

Explain

@hipflipped

4 ай бұрын

@@TheRealCobraBurnoutI'm assuming he's saying (correctely) that it looks like ass, and the only "fix" would be to re-paint it.

I’d like both models better without the weathering. The Tomy model had too many things wrong with it but the deal breaker for me is that the lights on the left side of the saucer section do not light up… dumb

@TheRealCobraBurnout

8 ай бұрын

Definitely an advantage to building a Polar Lights model from scratch. You can finish it out how you prefer.

Warp 7 Mr. Sulu!

I'd say the price for one thang!😳 Jman

Those prices are WARP SPEED!!

Are you going to order the Tomy Refit??? Edit: Never mind. I read your reply where you said you are👍

@TheRealCobraBurnout

8 күн бұрын

No worries. Glad they are making it.

The PL version is clearly superior. The weathering alone is what makes it look right. The Tomy one has a lot of ugly seams that aren't filled.

Nice. I prefer the Tomy finish and features.🖖🦘

I will tell you what that Saucer can take someone out that thing is heavy.

@TheRealCobraBurnout

9 ай бұрын

It is heavy for sure!

“It will have to be much bigger” -Zoolander It’s badass. -Me.

@TheRealCobraBurnout

9 ай бұрын

lol. Awesome

599 as in $600?

@TheRealCobraBurnout

9 ай бұрын

$599. Free ship. Any local or state taxes came out of the original $599 so everyone paid the same.

These are both beautiful models, for their own reasons. Unlit PL is what it is, but doesn't take away from a solid looking static display piece. I somewhat prefer the weathering on it as well, seems a bit more "Year Four of Five", versus the maybe "out of spacedock 6-12 months" look of the Tomy. However, for overall impression and *value* the Tomy "wins" (I've already said both a great). The lights and modes are fantastic! The saucer separation seems like a needless but incredible inclusion. Open, detailed shuttle bay with shuttles (quality of shuttles notwithstanding), and a viewable bridge (yes, I know, why not offset???) Die cast metal and a very cool stand base compared to the somewhat basic of the PL - I know it needs to be bigger, more solid for the weight, but PL could've just as easily done a plastic Delta shield base PL was $450 two and a half years ago compared to Tomy's $600 now. That's just inflation, nevermind the excesses offered by it! I am envious in the extreme. Kickstarter took a lot of my money a while back, so I took a break. Seems I may've missed some cool stuff 😔

@TheRealCobraBurnout

9 ай бұрын

Alot of good things for both. I really like having a lit version now.

That Tomy is AWESOME!

Thanks

Change the number and ship name and you'll have 2 in the fleet of 12

Odd thing. The Tomy doesn't have a lit up aft warp drive and what would really be cool, is the use of a wall plug in, like a radio/boom box. Yeah, think of coming back to the apt and turning on a wall light switch and the ship comes on like a lamp.

@TheRealCobraBurnout

9 ай бұрын

Wall plug option would have been nice. I wonder if anyone out there will mod theirs?

They call it "polar lights" and it has no lights?

Yes, these replicas are shaped like the enterprise, have the markings of the enterprise, but one major complaint I have for most replicas of the enterprise. It’s way too dark! The original enterprise was not gunmetal gray, was not dark gray, was not even medium gray. It was a pale, cement gray. Check out the sidewalk. It’s not that dark.

@TheRealCobraBurnout

24 күн бұрын

I guess the Smithsonian used wrong paint in their restoration. 🧑‍🎨

This is a great comparo. I haven't seen a Polar Lights pre-build in person, but it's interesting that so many comments about the TOMY model concern the weathering. In your video, the PL model looks pretty heavy handed in its application of the weathering and makes the TOMY seem almost subtle . The streaks at the front of the saucer are way better on the PL for sure, though. I have the TOMY as well and am pretty happy with it. It reminds me of something like a Lionel Standard O model train. It's close, but because of the way it's made it has to have compromises. Handling such a large, diecast metal spaceship is a special experience.

@TheRealCobraBurnout

9 ай бұрын

Much thanks. Good point. As i look at them more and more side by side i see more. Tomy’s weathering seems heavier up front but then lighter on the secondary hull and nacelles compared to PL.

The Tomy weathering looks too uniform. The polar lights looks more natural

Never shown until the new internet star trek shows.

@TheRealCobraBurnout

9 ай бұрын

What? Polar Lights vs Tomy?

i think the value of the tomy model is going to go up and up..

@TheRealCobraBurnout

4 ай бұрын

I hope they do another ship.

FYI - It’s pronounced tow-mee, not Tommy!

My display on electric base! kzread.info/dash/bejne/aGWhyphshKi1irw.html

@TheRealCobraBurnout

9 ай бұрын

Nice! I just watched

It's Tomy with a long o

its weird that they weather it by the engine as if it made black exhaust smoke . they just wouldnt do that in space its not a combustible engine

@TheRealCobraBurnout

7 ай бұрын

Gene liked to roll coal

at 1:10...."Weathering"????? on a SPACESHIP?

@TheRealCobraBurnout

9 ай бұрын

Yes. Gene Roddenberry wanted it that way. Yes Enterprise did enter atmosphere if that helps your imagination. But real space vehicles incur “space weathering” phenomenon. Space Weathering is described as the type of weathering that occurs to any object exposed to the harsh environment of outer space. Unlike on Earth, a man-made vessel wouldn't be affected by rain or wind. But the constant flux of high energy particles and micrometeorites.

I like the look of the Polar Lights version better.

@darrengriffin8609

9 ай бұрын

Nah

@darrengriffin8609

9 ай бұрын

No detail in the shuttle bay.

The Tomy is definitely the best of the two. I had an original AMT back in the ‘70s but was nowhere near as good as either of these due to my limited skills back then. I don’t remember any weathering in the original series, she always looked pristine to me plus there’s no weather in space, so I don’t get the fascination with weathering details. Even if there was any weather in space, the navigational deflector and shields would have taken care of that or the ship would’ve been shredded in the first minor storm it was in due to the intense friction a grain of sand or snowflake would’ve created due to the traveling at such high speed. I actually prefer the centered vs offset bridge because the offset bridge never made any sense from a realistic perspective but I do understand why they did it for filming purposes. I like the saucer separation option because it was mentioned in the original series just never showed. I suspect had it had another season or two we would’ve seen that onscreen.

Engage!

@TheRealCobraBurnout

9 ай бұрын

Make it so

not justice if they are not lit dude..is obvious you like tomy

The quality, materials and finish on the Tomy is far superior but that stand and base is hideous.

The Tomy one is spoilt a bit (Lot) by the poor job they did on the screw cover caps,... And the shuttles are awful!

Can i have your tomy Enterprise?

@TheRealCobraBurnout

8 ай бұрын

No

@DirtyHardSock

8 ай бұрын

@@TheRealCobraBurnout okay. Thank you anyway.

Nice try but that is one really bad seam on the saucer halves. $600, no thanks.

Question………. Is there a way to know when these crowdfunding projects are available? I would have loved to get one of these, but never knew it was even being made. Any advice or suggestions would be greatly appreciated. Thanks.

@TheRealCobraBurnout

9 ай бұрын

Check the “follow” section in this Tomy link. You can sign up for emails. Also links to follow them on Facebook and such. us.tomy.com/our-brands/shop-by-category/collector-must-haves/

Dude at this point it is quite uncomparable...

The upper disk paintjob on the tomy is hideous. Huge ugly yellow stripe.

I can take the styrene model and make a movie quality model with better lighting, sound effects, better details, etc.. The TOMY thing is a joke.

@inkermoy

9 ай бұрын

will you do it for 2600 people at $600 including shipping?

@keyboardt8276

9 ай бұрын

​​@@inkermoyadd in the fact that it's diecast and not styrene... Edit: honestly I would have preferred plastic (with an internal metal frame) over diecast if it meant lower costs, better detailing, reduced stand engineering and reduced seams though. I don't really get the preoccupation with diecast as "higher quality", as both look pretty much the same on the shelf when covered with a coat of paint.

@cptcosmo

9 ай бұрын

​@@inkermoyNope. I've got 1k in materials alone. But it will have servos, internal steel support armature, fiber optic and LED lighting, interior WIFI color LCD cameras of the shuttle/cargo bay and arboetum, an arduino controller... putting all my electronics, architecture and styrene modeling skills to work. My model would cost about 10K when done. I'm still collecting materials. I do plan on documenting the build as others have done here on KZread to share, but that's when I retire in about 10 years. I'm still sketching circuits and concepts as I think them up, mae cardboard mockups that future styrene building will be based on... I have a 2nd 1:350 1701-A model that will be kit bashed in to a Dakota class shutter carrier.

@inkermoy

9 ай бұрын

@@cptcosmo $600 vs. $10,000... very competitive pricing. I'm sold.

I don't know which of these two I dislike more... both models feature horribly overstated, out-scaled paint jobs designed to emulate the studio model in its current state, which may itself never have been intended to be seen beyond the special effects shots of the original television show. The TOMY version features a nice big seam around the primary hull, horribly-visible caps covering construction screws, and what appears to be ejection-pin scars on most of the major components. While many of the castings seem to have been adapted from the Polar Lights model, the painting, especially of the interiors, is rudimentary at best. The lighting of the TOMY model is likewise overstated and overly bright, and the gimmick of the detachable saucer seems little more than just that. The best feature of the TOMY model appears to be its ponderous weight, which probably translates to a sturdy model, unlike the Polar lights model, which is injection-molded styrene and susceptible to eventual warping and sagging without some kind of interior armature; this is why the original was built of metal, wood, and fibreglass, with careful attention towards the weight of the major components. Are either worth the price tag? If one lacks the ambition, or fear they may not be up to the challenge of assembling, painting, and detailing the un-assembled kit, either of these presents a palatable alternative, if one can afford to have somebody else build and detail them.

Toma is very nice ship

@TheRealCobraBurnout

9 ай бұрын

It is a neat one