I have the utmost respect for Tommy Lasorda. I’ve met him a couple times, just a great guy. But I completely disagree with him. I’m all for Pete rose never working In baseball again. But the gambling had nothing to do with what he did as a player. He’s the all time hits leader. One of the greatest 50 players of all time. He should be in the hall of fame.

@scottdavidson7001

6 жыл бұрын

alex clare I disagree.

@onespeedlite

3 жыл бұрын

For argument sake, what if a hall of fame level player was convicted of child molesting, murder, or running a prostitution ring? Should he be inducted in the HOF, because his actions were outside of baseball? If your answer is "yes", then you are consistent in your thought.

@ccmarshall1094

3 жыл бұрын

@@onespeedlite Show me in the rules where it says a player can receive a lifetime ban for committing any of the crimes you mentioned...

@ccmarshall1094

3 жыл бұрын

@Christopher Davis I am not saying that any one of those crimes are not worst than gambling by ANY means. They ARE. But it specifically states that: Major League Rule 21 (d). It is posted in every baseball clubhouse and the language is unambiguous: “Any player, umpire, or club or league official or employee, who shall bet any sum whatsoever upon any baseball game in connection with which the bettor has a duty to perform shall be declared permanently ineligible.” Seems pretty straight forward to me...

@916Smoke

3 жыл бұрын

@@ccmarshall1094 except that shouldn’t bar him in the HOF as a player.

If you’ve heard enough Lasorda interviews, you know he says what he has to say to keep himself in good standing with MLB. His words aren’t worth 2 cents. Pete was a big part of pennant winning teams & holds the hits record. He’s one of the great players to ever play the game. That’s what having a plaque is all about. Celebrating the great players of the game. Not their mistakes.

Of course Lasorda holds a grudge against Pete Rose, How many times has Rose beaten the Dodgers in the west when he played for the Reds.

@MoreThanWrestling

2 жыл бұрын

And laughed at them afterwards. LaSorda is a clown just like the Dodgers.

@roland7584

Жыл бұрын

Let the record show that when Lasorda was coaching (1973-1976) and managing (1976-1996) the Reds won the West exactly 3 times (1973,1975,1976) while the Dodgers won the West exactly 3 times (1974, 1977, 1978) while Pete was strictly playing. If you add the time when Pete was player/manager, then the Dodgers get 2 more (1985, 1988) so it's 5-3 Dodgers. In other words, you and P (the original commenter) are the clowns. Learn your history before you speak.

@alntr2872

Жыл бұрын

@@roland7584 Book em Dano

Tommys just upset he could never be a Pete Rose no matter how hard he tried

"What's our opinion of Pete Rose?" "What's my opinion? What the bleep do think my opinion is! He bleep bleep bleep bleep!"

@dalethelander3781

3 жыл бұрын

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 "He fuckin' scored too many fuckin' runs against the Dodgers! Jesus Christ!"

@ronfowlermusic

5 ай бұрын

@@dalethelander3781 Jesus Christ never played against the Dodgers.

I'm a life-long Dodgers fan and I LOVE Tommy Lasorda. However, he is wrong! Pete Rose is a certifiable HALL OF FAME player! I loved watching Pete at Dodger Stadium in the 70s and 80s. Pete was the real deal and is a HOFr in my opinion.

@johnmoore6853

7 ай бұрын

Please understand something although you may already know this, the Hall of Fame has nothing to do with MLB. I know that sounds stupid but let me explain. The Hall of Fame is a separate entity from MLB. MLB does not answer to the HOF and the HOF does not answer the MLB. The HOF has its own set of rules. One of their rules is, if someone has a lifetime ban from baseball they are not eligible for the HOF. So until MLB lifts its lifetime ban Rose will never see the Hall of fame. Additionally, Rose knew exactly what he was doing was wrong. And he did it anyway. Then he Lied, Lied, Lied about it..... For decades!!! He was involved with bookies at a very high level who were connected to organized crime. As manager he could have easily thrown games by substituting lesser players, put in pitchers he knew were not up to the task and he possibly did. His accomplishments on the field as a player are definitely HOF worthy. But just like the steroid guys, if you break the rules that you know are in place to keep the Integrity of the game, and you get a ban from baseball, the HOF will not even consider you. As it should be.

The MLB Hall of Fame has already been tarnished by all of the steroid cheats and the cover up which took place between the owners and the players. Pete Rose and Joe Jackson both deserve to be inducted together into the HOF, but it does not make one iota of a difference because player is a legend and has left a legacy that many that have been voted in have lacked.

Pete Rose made a mistake ; but he is still best hitter in all of baseball, no matter what his critics say .

@ThekiBoran

3 жыл бұрын

The best hitter has at least 500 homeruns and that isn't debatable.

@bobbytownsend1868

7 ай бұрын

No he isn't

Wrong tommy " pete belongs in baseball period and HOFame

@MountainFisher

4 жыл бұрын

Bollocks, he's a cheater, liar and pedophile.

Cause Pete beat LA up and down lol

Everyone has their own opinions,about everything. I think he belongs.

@johnhariton7432

3 жыл бұрын

The Major League Baseball Hall of Fame is interested in Retired MLB players who exemplifiy high standards in : Baseball Accomplishment, Moral Fibre, Integrity,. Charity and all Aspects of the American Way of Life......

There's a big difference in gambling on a game. If he was Manager and he bet AGAINST the Reds, then stripped the lineup and made sure they lost, that would be unforgivable.

I wonder what he thought about the Houston Asterisks baseball players??? How they weren’t banned for life is beyond me???🤯🤯🤯

@jaycub8077

3 жыл бұрын

Banned for life? They weren’t even banned for one game

@rossdilworth3412

3 жыл бұрын

It's not even close to the same thing. It's beyond you because you are dumb. It be like suspending someone for life for using pine tar too pitch. Pete rose is totally different, and way way way worse.

God bless him for saying what he feels without repercussions, how about following the rules? No one is ever sorry when doing the act only when their caught

@ThekiBoran

3 жыл бұрын

They're.

I was born and raised about 13 miles NE of Cincinnati in Milford, OH. I grew up idolizing the Big Red Machine. My 2 favorite players were Johnny Bench and Pete Rose. That team was the greatest group of players EVER to me!!! I dreamed of playing baseball and being like one of those guys. When the story first came out, I was about a year out of high school and the big-league dreams were gone, but I still LOVED our Reds. I believed Pete when he denied the allegations. I believed him the entire time. All the years. All the questions. And then the book he wrote. Admitting it was ALL TRUE. I was SICKENED by this. Rewind back to the day he accepted the ban…Pete probably figured he would “do his time” and it would all blow over. He would apply for re-instatement in a year and Giamatti would more-than-likely accept his request and his path to the HOF was sealed. Buuuuut, Giamatti died of a heart attack about a week later and the new commissioners weren’t gonna have it. He LIED. He DENIED. He even cried. He was given EVERY opportunity to come clean and admit what he did. The reason he LIED, is because he KNEW what he did was wrong. But again, he ASSUMED everyone would forgive and/or forget. When he did admit, he said it was only on games not involving the Reds. Then later, he said “Well, yes. I DID bet on the Reds. But only to win…” I have no idea other than his past speaks volumes. I believe and agree that if he had just come clean since day one, things would be different. He may have had to wait a little while to get into the HOF (make him sweat it out so to speak), but he would have eventually been enshrined on his first ballot. But he didn’t. What Pete did on the field was amazing. He gave his all, 110% ALL THE TIME. He left it all out on the field. He set and broke records that will more than likely stand the test of all eternity. He EARNED those records and they will always be listed as his, which is 1,000,000% acceptable. What he did OFF the field locked him into his OWN PRISON WITHOUT BARS. Where, to me, he should remain. Pete will ALWAYS be known as a GREAT player. One of the all time BEST, but he REPEATEDLY effed up. I even recently heard an interview where he said: “everyone should just GET OVER IT…” No, Pete. YOU should just “GET OVER IT”

@estherlee5527

4 жыл бұрын

I am not a Reds fan but I really liked the 1995 Reds squad (speed and power with great starting pitching) - Ron Gant, Reggie Sanders, Barry Larkin, Pete Schourek, John Smiley and David Wells. Now imagine if they had a healthy Jose Rijo and resigned Kevin Mitchell before he went to Japan. My goodness what a squad that would have been.

Do you honestly think no one else in baseball bets on games and even against their own teams ? Pete Rose never bet against his team !

I have always thought Rose should gone too much until I see how MLB is relying on gambling.

These old men are so bitter about the dumbest things. HE BET ON HIS TEAM TO WIN! I dont think that detail should be overlooked. It was also 40 years ago.

@ThekiBoran

3 жыл бұрын

You dumb young men have no wisdom.

He never threw a game. Nowadays they brought gambling back in baseball so Tommy wake up.

@ThekiBoran

3 жыл бұрын

Step away from the crack pipe homey.

it's not gambling when the gambler has control of the game.

Wrong!! Steroids destroyed the game and records. McGuire is coaching. Disgusting...

@yakamarezlife

5 жыл бұрын

Excactly but Pete or conceco are banned come on

@savagedick8829

4 жыл бұрын

Wrong! Steroids saved baseball after the strike. The 1998 HR chase between Sosa and McGuire brought interest back to the sport. MLB knew about it

the Dodgers vs. the Reds in the 70s are probably the greatest intra-divisional rivalry in the 50 year-history of baseball's playoff system... L.A. won the division 3 times during the decade, and the Big Red Machine won it 6.

@TimCarter

Жыл бұрын

I remember it. I lived in LA and hated the Dodgers.

Rose never bet while he was a player! That is a big difference, Lasorda! You blowing out the candle McNamara lit after the catholic mass, that is the real sin!

@ThekiBoran

3 жыл бұрын

Catholicism is a pagan religion so what's the big deal?

I love Pete and it wouldn't bother me if they let him In but if they do the next time someone bets one baseball they will point to this a slide will start down the wrong way. That's why they have precedence in law and court. It would be a bad precedence.

Put Pete in the Hall of Fame.

@dallasbrubaker6054

6 жыл бұрын

no

@michaelbright1218

3 жыл бұрын

NOT In Our Lifetime

*somebody ask pete rose if he bet against his team, then threw the game.* i really doubt that happened. he loved winning and i suspect he bet because he was so sure of himself.

@shaystern2453

7 ай бұрын

he would need the players to be complicit

did you ever duff up a ball Tommy, he served his time were a country that forgives

I agree with both Tommy and Johnny Bench, Pete Rose does NOT belong in the Hall of Fame!

Tommy is a baseball purist who believes that rose being inducted would somehow sully the game .. uh DUH ... you're a little behind on this one, game's been sullied for years.

@stevewilson1685

4 жыл бұрын

Lasorda got into the Hall of Fame with players that used steroids...and he knew it. Steroids impact how the game was played...Pete's gambling did not. In addition, the Boston Red Sox players took bribes and fixed the game...not exactly the same Tommy.

Spoken like a true dodger ...reds n dodgers were a big rivalry bk n day!!! Let p ete n the hall! Just don't let him mange again

@franciscopolanco2754

3 жыл бұрын

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Go ask Juanito Banca if Pedrito belongs in the Hall!

They should have second baseball hall of fame for the gamblers, game cheaters, drug users, wife cheaters/beaters, ex-cons, perverts etc; and let the fans decide which group they wanna support and root for. After all it's America the land of the free

If Pete repents and apologizes, he then should become eligible. I understand he violated the integrity of baseball, but baseball should have a heart and forgive if asked. We give convicts the chance to reenter into society. Pete deserves better. Have a heart, MLB.

@roland7584

Жыл бұрын

He never repented and he never sincerely apologized, so he is right where he should be according to you. Let's not compare him to convicts (although he is one and has been allowed to reenter into society).

@ronfowlermusic

5 ай бұрын

he has admitted his mistakes, he has said that he was the one that caused all the problems, he doesn't blame anyone else.

I wish he could have asked him about Dave Kingman :)

@Grandizer8989

7 ай бұрын

I just watched that! Lol

Tommy is right

I'll get in the HOF before pete ever does

@gregwatson8219

Жыл бұрын

Good point

Lasorda doesn't like Pete Rose for obvious reasons, Rose and the Reds wore the Dodgers out

@ThekiBoran

3 жыл бұрын

Nah, he and other MLB players and managers really do think that Rose shouldn't be in baseball or the HOF.

@TimCarter

Жыл бұрын

It was a great rivalry. I lived in LA and I hated the Dodgers.

Great Baseball Man..Did turn into a Grumpy Old Man towards the End

as far as i know,,rose signed and accepted the lifetime ban for his crime...i wont even mention that he denied it for 20 years

@bengaljam4550

Жыл бұрын

When he accepted the lifetime ban from baseball he was still eligible for the Hall of Fame. It wasn't until a year after he was banned that they changed the rule that if you are banned from baseball you are also ineligible for the hall of Fame.

Tell us how you really feel Tommy, lol

Says a guy in the HOF. WRONG.

Sad truly sad Pete Rose should be in the HOF played 5 different positions 17 all star , most hits in baseball 44 game hit streak this is one of baseball’s best players. In my opinion he is up there with babe Ruth. So what he had a gambling addition, bar him from baseball for that what a crock of bull these self righteous people make me sick

@richstex4736

3 жыл бұрын

He is the only player to have STARTED at FIVE different All-Star positions.

@roland7584

Жыл бұрын

@@richstex4736 He is the only player to have STARTED at FIVE different All-Star positions and got himself banned from the game for life. That's very hard to do.

@richstex4736

Жыл бұрын

@@roland7584 Yet he has received support from many HOF members, so despite your feelings they want him in the Hall.

@roland7584

Жыл бұрын

@@richstex4736 Since Pete is outliving many Hall of Famers that didn't want him in, I guess that list might have gotten a little bigger, but I still can't find a list where it's now "many HOF members".

@maverickwatchreviews

Жыл бұрын

@@richstex4736 Saying many HOF members want him in the hall carries about as much weight as people saying "many black people want reparations". It ain't gonna happen. Rose dug his own grave...just like Lance Armstrong Armstrong.

Even Johnny Bench says Pete doesn't belong.

@gregwatson8219

Жыл бұрын

Thats true. Johnny greatest Reds in history. All his teammates left team but Johnny remained!

@bengaljam4550

Жыл бұрын

Johnny was always bitter that the hometown kid Pete Rose stole his glory.

Cardinal sin? Give me a break. Rose bet on his own team and never against. So what about golfers at the British Open or tennis players at Wimbledon? Add horse owners and trainers to the mix. What’s the difference? Hypocrisy. Sanctimonious MLB.

Giants fan here. My whole life I’ve hated LA, but you have to respect this icon of the sport.

The Major League Baseball Hall of Fame is interested in Retired MLB Players who have always met high standards in: Baseball Accomplishment, Moral Fibre, Integrity, Charity and all aspects of the American Way...

@johnhariton7432

3 жыл бұрын

Deviation will be considered if candidate is truly Born Again.

Quit slouching in your chair Tommy, Sit up correctly.

Lasorda comparing what Rose did to the White Sox players conspiring to throw games is nothing short of moronic. Rose's ban started off as personal and remains so to this day.

@roland7584

Жыл бұрын

Personal to who?

Let me see if I can get this straight...Does Pete belong in the Hall of Fame? Absolutely. Should he be reinstated in Baseball? No. So long as Pete Rose is banned from baseball he cannot be formally considered for the Hall. And whether people think Pete has served his time (according to whom?), betting on baseball incurs a LIFETIME ban. That means Pete has not completed his time until the day he dies. Now personally, I think Pete will be reinstated after he passes on. Even then, I do not think he will get in on the first ballet. As kids, we knew Pete was not only going into the Hall, but that he was going to break Tom Seaver's vote count record. The question was whether he was going to be the first and only unanimous inductee going in. And Pete blew that. This is not about punishment (which he knowingly earned), but about what he needs to own. A couple of you get that.

@kirkn60

Жыл бұрын

Good point. Rose can be reinstated by MLB after he dies, then admitted to the HOF.

there is no cardinal rule. you can't compare the blacksox to pete rose, different circumstances. the blacksox did it for the money. they didn't make enough to last the whole year. rose never bet on a game that he purposely lost just to win the bet. he bet because he liked to gamble.

That dawg exhaust Rose bet against his own team CIN when he didn't put a bet on the Reds when he was their manager.

@rusoviettovarich9221

6 жыл бұрын

Tell me how you really feel? Hey I don't root for a bolshevik cell in Hamilton County that you do...'Reds'?

@kingcassius2586

6 жыл бұрын

He never bet against the Reds. He bet ON the Reds.

@dallasbrubaker6054

6 жыл бұрын

And you know this how? Gamblers want to win money. If Pete Rose's starter was struggling all season long, and was 6-10 with an ERA of 5.85 and his team was facing the best pitcher in baseball who was cruising along with a record of 14-2 with an ERA of 1.96 and Pete had $100,000 to place a bet on this game, who do think he would bet on?

He gambled as a Manager not as a player. So he should be in the HOF only recognized as a player.

@andrewneedham3281

3 жыл бұрын

Actually, he also gambled during the 1986 season too, when he was both player and manager. That's a fallacy, my dude.

@andrewneedham3281

3 жыл бұрын

Of course, he also bet in the '87 season too, when he was no longer playing.

Pete rose the best player ever it’s the hall of shame with out him

Absolutely right, Mr. Lasorda

Like everyone in baseball are inocent, give me a break. Betting is the reason we watch these over paid players, and pay $10 for beer at the stadiums. Pete Rose is the real poster boy for baseball.

@ThekiBoran

2 жыл бұрын

Are you saying you don't watch because they're the best in the world playing the game but rather to see if you won money? That's really sad.

Astros, cheaters, hey Tommy, should their WS rings/ trophy be taken away ?

Sorry Tommy, you're wrong on this one... Pete Rose belongs in the Hall Of Fame.

@obbzerver

6 жыл бұрын

Nope.

@scottdavidson7001

6 жыл бұрын

joebaseball17 nope. cheater broke cardinal rule. no betting.

@dallasbrubaker6054

6 жыл бұрын

Sorry joebaseball17, you arew wrong on this one.....Pete Rose does not belong in of the Hall of Fame

@genematthew

6 жыл бұрын

You all don't understand. YES, betting on baseball is a "cardinal rule", HOWEVER, the Black Sox bet on themselves to LOSE AND they threw the game(s)! Totally different IMPO. Also, regardless of what the director threw into the "8 men out" movie, not one of them every tried to get reinstated. So there has not yet been a court ruling on such a matter... ever. IMO, Charlie Hustle belongs in the Hall.

@dallasbrubaker6054

6 жыл бұрын

No YOU don't understand. Betting is betting. If Pete Rose knew his starting pitcher didn't have his best stuff on any given day, was struggling in his last 2, 3 starts and the Reds were facing Clayton Kershaw, you don't think he would bet on the Reds to lose? One thing all gamblers have in common: they never want to lose. If Pete Rose had a chance to win $100,000 on any given night, he would have bet on his team to win; likewise, he would have also bet on them to lose. It just depends on how he felt gave HIM the best chance to win, not his team.

Lasorda just pissed he couldn't make it as a player

@1981lashlarue

6 жыл бұрын

I guess he just had to settle for being a Hall of Fame manager.

I don’t agree. He never liked Rose and he mentioned the Black Sox. Wait until the Field of dreams game. 100 years after the 1919 WS...Baseball is expected to release the ban on shoeless Joe to let him be in the hall.

Lasorda couldnt hold the hit kings beer.

They need to make an example of Rose. The message needs to be that the rule is the rule no matter who you are, period.

Tommy Lasorda trying to beat the Reds all the time I’m sure he Growed hate Pete Rose maybe one of the hardest playing baseball players in history can you give me nine players in my lineup Pete Rose and give me nine managers like Tommy Lasorda Pete Rose win every time

Which is worse? Steroids? Is my (or Pete's) betting affecting the players in ANY way? Can ANYONE point out a Coaching decision Rose made to CHANGE anything from ANY GAME? Look how Lasorda treated his players...there's a bunch of KZread videos to go thru. Go ahead, I'll wait! Bunch of jealous hypocrites! Let me go get a shot in my hip...

Love Tommy, but i totally disagree, Pete should never gave bet on baseball, but the difference between the black sox and Pete Rose is the B.Socks threw their games, Pete didn't, to me that is a HUGE DIFFERENCE.

Rose HOF

Finally!!!! Some who agrees with me...

Sorry Tommy you're wrong because the White Sox fix the game Pete Rose never fixed games he bet on games he was never accused of fixing games so get your facts straight

@obbzerver

6 жыл бұрын

*"...Pete Rose never fixed games..."* - How do you know? Because he says he didn't? He also said for years he didn't bet. He broke the rule when he knew better.

@jrjr11rrsgjk

6 жыл бұрын

obbzerver hold on one second here they investigated him and they never not once ever mentioned fixing game they said betting games but they never mention fixing games so if there was any fix involved they would have found out

@jrjr11rrsgjk

6 жыл бұрын

obbzerver one more thing how many players are caught using steroids using drugs domestic violence and they're forgiven little suspension and back in the league they go I think it's time to let mr. Rose into the Hall of Fame not for his actions as a manager but as a player and for the great things he done in the game heck OJ killed two people and he's in the Hall of Fame

@obbzerver

6 жыл бұрын

*"...they investigated him and they never not once ever mentioned fixing game..."* Doesn't matter - it's completely irrelevant. *"...how many players are caught using steroids using drugs domestic violence..."* Doesn't matter - it's completely irrelevant. *"Any player, umpire, or club or league official or employee, who shall bet any sum whatsoever upon any baseball game in connection with which the bettor has a duty to perform shall be declared permanently ineligible."* Nothing unclear about this. Rose was aware of this rule and he chose to break it. It doesn't say "unless you're a popular player with great career stats. Nope, doesn't say that. The only way it means anything is if it applies to *everyone* in the game. Did Rose bet on games he participated in? Yup. He's out.

@jrjr11rrsgjk

6 жыл бұрын

obbzerver you have a good point and I understand what you're saying about the rulebook but I'm saying as a player and the numbers he has he belongs in the Hall of Fame. But cheaters like McGwire Sosa and that steroid freak in San Francisco who cheated the record books and cheated the fans they're still around baseball

So Ridiculous.

I never like Tommy Lasorda and I always was a Pete Rose fan, but in this one case, I do agree with Lasorda. Pete f'ed up and that's the rules.

Tommy has skeletons in his closet that some could say are reason enough to get him kicked out of the hall of fame.

Out you gip la zorda

This is the most ridiculous ban of all time. Just shows why the MLB is dying.

@roland7584

Жыл бұрын

Pete has no one to blame but himself. He's the one that made the bets and broke the rules, so yes it's a ridiculous ban and Pete should be ashamed of himself forever and ever.

Tommy is a thousand percent correct.

Must be nice to be so perfect. Everyone makes mistakes. I thought this was America where you can make a mistake, serve your sentence and are forgiven. Some people are acting like God. However God has given us all grace in those who believe. We are all sinners. Those free of sin cast the first stone. People make mistakes. I think we as people should forgive and forget. Rose has asked for forgiveness served 30 plus years of a lifetime sentence. Some murderers don't serve that much time. I guess also there are just a bunch of choir boys in the hall of fame right. I is ok to deal drugs and still be in the Hall of Fame. This particular player was forgiven and allowed in. If you ask me dealing drug is worse. It is also alright for baseball to promote legal gambling too. This is pretty ridiculous if you ask me. Players get suspended for peds and are forgiven and allowed to coach.

@ThekiBoran

2 жыл бұрын

Rose knew the rule before he broke it. Why can't you get that through your social justice warrior skull?

It's the same old argument. If they let Pete Rose in, then they have to let in Shoeless Joe Jackson, who was twice the player.

@luciogamesmusic

7 жыл бұрын

Really.. he was twice the player. And that's based on... a bunch of hearsay and legend (for the most part) ?

@jrjr11rrsgjk

6 жыл бұрын

No no you people don't know what you're talking about Shoeless Joe Jackson fixed Chicago White Sox fix the World Series Pete Rose never fixed games he just bet on damn games so get your facts straight before you guys start talking crap

@scottdavidson7001

6 жыл бұрын

raymoles damn you gotta be really old....How good was Shoeless in the deafball era....

@johnniejay

6 жыл бұрын

Unless you're 120 years old, there's no freaking way you can make that statement and expect to be taken seriously.

the part that makes no sense is that pete betting on baseball had no effect on anyone or the game... its not like cheating, it just made it more interesting to him... not to mention its absolutely absurd to think hes the only guy who did it or does it... they actually mention the point spread when announcing football games...so its obvious that betting occurs in everysport

@luciogamesmusic

7 жыл бұрын

It's really mind-boggling.. It seems that he is a whipping boy and that a lot of these guys have some secret organized vendetta against him.

@obbzerver

6 жыл бұрын

*"...pete betting on baseball had no effect on anyone or the game..."* Pure speculation on your part. The rule is you don't bet on baseball, period. The rule and the penalty is crystal clear.

@obbzerver

6 жыл бұрын

*"...It seems that he is a whipping boy..."* - Not a whipping boy, an example that the rule means what it says no matter who you are.

Tommy Lasorda was near as talented as Pete Rose. He just a bitter old man...He gambled so what....White Sox took bribes, big difference. He never threw games...

Never understood WHY people look at Lasorda like this lovable old fart!? Never much cared for him, or the Dodgers! Lol!! Not that I need another reason to dislike the 226 year old PURIST!!

Lasorda just holds grudges against people. He doesnt like Rose so he doesnt want him back in the game or in the HOF. Also Lasorda disowned his own son when he found out he was gay. Doesnt seem like a very nice guy to me.

@ThekiBoran

3 жыл бұрын

What does having a homosexual son have to do with whether or not Rose the gambling addict should be in the hall?