Honestly, I really enjoy these 'Kit update videos'. They feel like a really calm and informed chat with a friend. It's also really great to see your needs and requirements for quality grow as (I'm assuming) your business and filmmaking skill grows. Really enjoy it.

@Moviesauce

5 жыл бұрын

Thanks, man. Good to know you've been following along and like the format! I think it's important to see the journey and evolution of people.

Nice review! Keep doing that!

Great review man, really comprehensive ! I'm tired of these other "quick review" videos that only cover what I already know from reading the specs. I am seriously considering buying one of these as my first set of Cinema lenses, but I am a little unclear about one thing. How will the focal range change on a S35 1080p camera like the Sony PMW-F3 ? Will the range become something like 24 - 42mm ( rather than 16 - 28mm ) with the crop factor ?? Thanks in advance.

Hey I was wondering what's your take on the 24-35mm f2 zoom? vs 24-70mm f2.8 art vs Sigma 24mm f1.4 art + 35mm combo?

@Moviesauce

5 жыл бұрын

Quality wise they should all be close. What you're really comparing is different zoom lengths and apertures. Should just think about what you need for the type of work you do. If fast aperture is a priority go with primes. If you do a lot of run and gun filming, the 24-70 might be a better option.

Do you have any video links on your channel that was primarily shot with these Tokina lenses? As you mentioned, I just can't find much online about them. Thanks!

@Moviesauce

5 жыл бұрын

These were both about half and half with the Tokinas and Rokinon SPs (for the shallow depth of field shots). kzread.info/dash/bejne/qYpmk66Yc6ralaw.html kzread.info/dash/bejne/kal90ryAddiWh9o.html

Do you see vignetting at 6k on dragon sensor with the 50-135?

@Moviesauce

5 жыл бұрын

Don't have a 6k dragon sensor to test with it anymore. Only have 8k helium.

11-16 tokina ATX right now in Denmark 700usd only one left... Can YOU TAKE PHOTOS WITH CINE LENS??

@Moviesauce

5 жыл бұрын

Yes, there's just no auto-focus motors or electronic aperture. Everything is manual.

after spending a yr with these lenes what do you think? can you do a update video i,m thinking of buying these

@Moviesauce

5 жыл бұрын

Yeah, i'll maybe do a new lens kit update. Short answer is I still love them, but I don't use them for everything. They're not the fastest lenses and they're big so not the best for run and gun and low light. But I use them in a lot of controlled situations or when I need in camera zoom. I always like the look of them.

@dantan357

5 жыл бұрын

@@Moviesauce i was just looking at the slr magic apo hyperprimes ....but i,m really like the style of shooting with zooms

in term of the sigma cinema 18-35 vs the 16-28 which one is sharper?

@Moviesauce

5 жыл бұрын

Haven't done a side by side, but I'd say they're comparable. What you should mainly be looking at between those two is the aperture difference and the focal length. Tokina is a little slower but a little wider. Sigma is faster and longer.

@FlashOneFilms

5 жыл бұрын

Moviesauce thank you I’ve been looking at the 11-20 by Tokina but I haven’t seen really no reviews about it would be great to hear your input.

@Moviesauce

5 жыл бұрын

Will try and put out a review in the next month or so. Crazy couple of weeks right now, wont be able to fit it in. But short answer is I like it.

Definitely need to find more of those focus lever pins!

@Moviesauce

5 жыл бұрын

Yeah, I wonder if they sell them separately. Afraid of losing them.

@erictidmore8047

5 жыл бұрын

Moviesauce reach out to Tokina Cinema support! I emailed them and they got back to me within a day for spares.

@theimperfectadviser

5 жыл бұрын

I used to own an Angenieux 12-120mm lens with my Eclair ACL camera (Cave times!) with this same feature (lever on lens) @@Moviesauce

The photo tokina lenses have the same glass as these if you don’t need the manual apurture

I feel the same about how you are taken more seriously. Before when i asked clients for certain prices for my work and i used my basic lenses they always bartered. Now that I have a pelican case for my gear, 2 cameras, and 3 cine lenses by Rokinon, they all pay what i ask for and know i mean business.

@Moviesauce

5 жыл бұрын

Yeah, some clients have trouble understanding what they're paying for, or just plain undervalue "creative services." And as technology trickles down increasingly they might feel like "well I can do that." So sometimes it does help to have big flashy gear just for the appearance of being worth more. Though I find most the time I'm delivering overkill gear for the work I do mainly because I like to use good quality stuff and less because the client needs or demands it.

@830Video

5 жыл бұрын

What kind of work are you mainly doing these days?

@Moviesauce

5 жыл бұрын

Small business videos. Brand videos. Music videos. Mainly focusing on my local market.

@830Video

5 жыл бұрын

Moviesauce very nice, I work with athletes mainly youtubers and instagram models and such

@raksh9

5 жыл бұрын

You could probably get a similar 'flashy gear' effect if you rocked up to the client's location with a Sony A7something (or similar mirrorless camera) fully rigged in a cage with a monitor, V lock and matte box.

Have I got that right, that the front of the lens is not moving while focusing and zooming, so all of that is done internally? Reason I‘m asking is because that would working with an anamorphot so much easier…

@Moviesauce

2 жыл бұрын

Yes they’re internal focusing. Most “cine” lenses are internal focusing - so no the lens doesn’t move in and out.

@HerbertKratky_PhotoKratky

2 жыл бұрын

@@Moviesauce Thanks for the prompt reply, I was pretty sure about internal focusing, but does the lens keep the same length while zooming (which is a lot harder to find)?

@Moviesauce

2 жыл бұрын

Yes. It does not move when zooming. Worth noting that these lenses have since been replaced with newer MKII models.

@HerbertKratky_PhotoKratky

2 жыл бұрын

@@Moviesauce I saw that there is a new version, but could find much of a difference other than a smaller housing and a slightly smaller T-stop…

Damn those lenses big as hell. I was thinking about buying the 50-135 for my S1H. Do you think that would be too unbalanced? I have it rigged up

@Moviesauce

3 жыл бұрын

Definitely doesn't make sense on a mirrorless body. Not really what they're meant for.

@TimNjiru

2 жыл бұрын

I have the t3 16mm-28 Tokina Cinema to sell