Tobirama vs Sasuke - The Real Winner?

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I go over Tobirama vs Sasuke in two different forms Sasuke is in EMS & MS states both at their respective peaks which was at the end of the Juubito fight and the end of the 5 kage summit and Tobirama is in his Edo state and Alive state. I think they fights have pretty interesting outcomes.

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  • @sixfromtokyo
    @sixfromtokyo2 жыл бұрын

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  • @Heistjdj1337

    @Heistjdj1337

    2 жыл бұрын

    I got banned for no reason

  • @MultiAssassin31

    @MultiAssassin31

    2 жыл бұрын

    Six if you don’t do pain v itachi for your 50k im pulling up 😭😭😭😭😭

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    @SaberEBW

    2 жыл бұрын

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  • @Rck-vert

    @Rck-vert

    2 жыл бұрын

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  • @Rck-vert

    @Rck-vert

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@MultiAssassin31 he thinks Itachi win…he said it on stream multiple times with Seth

  • @akaraikiriakatsuki3157
    @akaraikiriakatsuki31572 жыл бұрын

    the only reason he lost to gold and silver is because they aren't uchiha. he doesn't have his 20x boost

  • @___________0Z0X

    @___________0Z0X

    2 жыл бұрын

    Lmao

  • @dreadheadbandz1943

    @dreadheadbandz1943

    2 жыл бұрын

    Racism amp lmfao

  • @Sayojen

    @Sayojen

    Жыл бұрын

    *unintelligible gurgling* WHAT DID YOU SAY UCHIHA???

  • @gameuniverse5973

    @gameuniverse5973

    Жыл бұрын

    Tobirama dint have his will of fire boost as well

  • @dreadheadbandz1943

    @dreadheadbandz1943

    Жыл бұрын

    @@Sayojen OH YEAH! YOU WAS TALKING ALL THAT GOOD SHIT A SECOND AGO; THEN YO WHOLE CLAN GOT WIPED OUT! YOU REINCARNATE INDRA, YOU REINCARNATE!

  • @SpammytheHedgehog
    @SpammytheHedgehog2 жыл бұрын

    Sasuke: I'm gonna destroy the Hidden Leaf Village! Tobirama: And I took that personally.

  • @jhrykkjutku
    @jhrykkjutku Жыл бұрын

    The real weakness of Tobirama is that he was "born to soon". Of course Naruto/Kabuto/Minato's techniques are stronger. But that's only because those jutsus have had decades to evolve. Tobirama invented all of them, played with them for a few years, and then died. Compare this with the clone-jutsu which has been refined by countless ninjas through history. Tobirama is basically a caveman with a piece of flintstone. Naruto is a special-force soldier with a tactical stainless steel knife. Of course it's better, but it only exist because that caveman invented the flint knife first. You can't really compare 2 points on the same line...

  • @paulocuento9949

    @paulocuento9949

    Жыл бұрын

    good points.. plus tobirama had to live in an era of multiple wars. inventing justsus, and using them at the same time.. no time to practice during peaceful moments.. the generations after them, were given time to grow and learn and eventually be given light to moderate missions until they beccome full grown adults

  • @kazeemuqdah9369

    @kazeemuqdah9369

    Жыл бұрын

    I’m a Sasuke stan lol but I never thought of this before. It was right in my face and I didn’t see it. That’s a really really really big mention. How strong are these ninja if you buff them to the standards of more of their modern shinobi😮‍💨😮‍💨😮‍💨

  • @thevipivo6200

    @thevipivo6200

    Жыл бұрын

    you are right

  • @madarasoun3018

    @madarasoun3018

    Жыл бұрын

    This is an amazing take.

  • @Geaxuce

    @Geaxuce

    Жыл бұрын

    Although, tobirama and hashirama are only, like, 3-4 generations older than narutos group. The show made it seem like they were so much older, like hundreds of years older than narutos group. The amount of evolution in the refinement of justu in narutos Era was refine by real geniuses for then to have come as far as they did in such a short amount of time. Tobirama is at most 150 years older than naruto. Assuming, Minato and kushina were roughly 18-20 when they had naruto and if Minatos parents were jiraya and tsunade, like a nice theory proposed, and they were 50 when naruto was 13. Then Hashirama is tsunades grandpa giving another 50 years between them then the warring states period of narutos world ended max 150 years before naruto was born. They aren't nearly as ancient as the show makes them seem

  • @skilex3573
    @skilex3573 Жыл бұрын

    "Those who break the rules are scum, but those darn Uchiha are even worse than scum." -Legendary Tobiarama

  • @shade08538

    @shade08538

    Жыл бұрын

    😂😂😂😂

  • @Connor-wc6jr
    @Connor-wc6jr Жыл бұрын

    Nobody talks about Tobirama knowing about Kagutsuchi. When Naruto and Sasuke fire attacks at the 10 tails, Tobirama sees Sasuke's Kagutsuchi arrow and says, "I don't recall seeing Kagutsuchi of such magnitude". Implying that either Izuna or another Uchiha that Tobirama fought/took out, used Kagutsuchi (which would mean they have Amaterasu as well) and that says a lot about Tobirama's power.

  • @spit-fire

    @spit-fire

    Жыл бұрын

    Since itachi had it and sasuke had it, that might mean black flames of some kind could be genetic. Imagine tobirama killed sasuke & itachi’s great grandpa 😂

  • @bobjohnson1633

    @bobjohnson1633

    Жыл бұрын

    Sasuke and Itachi are far beyond most Uchiha, even those that had mangekyo.

  • @spit-fire

    @spit-fire

    Жыл бұрын

    @@bobjohnson1633so?

  • @koalteufel7947

    @koalteufel7947

    Жыл бұрын

    @@bobjohnson1633 "Even those that had Mangekyo". I don't know bud, there's some real stiff competition.

  • @shade08538

    @shade08538

    Жыл бұрын

    @@bobjohnson1633 Source?

  • @Hip-Gnosis1134
    @Hip-Gnosis1134 Жыл бұрын

    I wish tobirama had more on screen feats. Definitely the most underrated hokage in my opinion.

  • @gcitydev

    @gcitydev

    Жыл бұрын

    I disagree with him being the most underrated hokage, that definitely have to go to Tsunade still.

  • @ethanturner1061

    @ethanturner1061

    Жыл бұрын

    @@gcitydev true

  • @sasookex

    @sasookex

    Жыл бұрын

    @@gcitydev atleast she got more screen time and is recognised more but many people forget that tobirama is strong to begin with

  • @doggelord

    @doggelord

    Жыл бұрын

    @@sasookex say that to hiruzen the old man not even have a screen fight in his prime (Him has to be the most underrate hokage)

  • @EswAK3108

    @EswAK3108

    Жыл бұрын

    @@gcitydev bro tsunade is really weak(I am not including 100 healings) I mean in part 1 she literally lose to kabuto And tobirama is strong still underestimate that he can't beat orochimaru, jiraya etc

  • @SpammytheHedgehog
    @SpammytheHedgehog2 жыл бұрын

    Tobirama: So, we meet again, Izuna. Sasuke: Izu-who?

  • @barccy

    @barccy

    Жыл бұрын

    Tobirama : Exactly.

  • @paulocuento9949

    @paulocuento9949

    Жыл бұрын

    i love this thread

  • @MarioTheLiopleurodon
    @MarioTheLiopleurodon Жыл бұрын

    Remember, Tobirama gets the racism amp when fighting Uchiha, giving him 20x chakra reserves, 10x AP, 10x DP, and 10x speed/reaction time.

  • @tribopower

    @tribopower

    Жыл бұрын

    damn... that racism amp do be strong

  • @inboundira329

    @inboundira329

    Жыл бұрын

    Bro ngl if I gotta be racist to get that amp then so be it

  • @imcalvintwo
    @imcalvintwo Жыл бұрын

    Before I continue, I knew I was locked in before the intro was started man. Looking forward to a great video🙌🏾

  • @serpentgod5202
    @serpentgod5202 Жыл бұрын

    vs battles what we want and need bro. keep up the good work

  • @falexie7802
    @falexie7802 Жыл бұрын

    Entertaining as always. Keep it up.

  • @SpammytheHedgehog
    @SpammytheHedgehog2 жыл бұрын

    Sasuke was lucky Tobirama had already went to the afterlife when he declared a Revolution.

  • @jinmali

    @jinmali

    Жыл бұрын

    Fuck was tobirama gonna do 💀

  • @thanos8914

    @thanos8914

    Жыл бұрын

    @@jinmali a whole lotta teleportation cheese and endgame him

  • @ishmaelpierson7681

    @ishmaelpierson7681

    Жыл бұрын

    @@thanos8914 I mean he couldn't touch revived 1 eyed madara. rinnegan Sasuke would do tobirama so dirty

  • @skittles664

    @skittles664

    Жыл бұрын

    @@ishmaelpierson7681 1 eyed revived Madara was also way stronger than Sasuke so your point doesn't really stand Edit:this comment is invalid since it talks about another edited comment.

  • @alexandremartin660

    @alexandremartin660

    Жыл бұрын

    @@skittles664 thats before sasuke had his rinnegan lol... Your out of context...

  • @residentevil25
    @residentevil252 жыл бұрын

    enjoyed the video as always Six, thanks! - LeKage

  • @andrejmisev2386
    @andrejmisev2386 Жыл бұрын

    Love the video six!

  • @takatotakasui8307
    @takatotakasui8307 Жыл бұрын

    This result isn't too surprising, but still a great video. Cool scenario, pretty underrated topic, and great research as always. Keep it up

  • @EzBreezy750
    @EzBreezy750 Жыл бұрын

    I’m still laughing at sasuke vs killer bee his ass died mid fight twice

  • @thegreatestever913

    @thegreatestever913

    Ай бұрын

    Bee needed to be saved multiple times

  • @parkerdolson2157
    @parkerdolson21572 жыл бұрын

    This fight is never close. Before rinnegan it's all Tobirama and after its all Sasuke

  • @BigAlexRocks

    @BigAlexRocks

    Жыл бұрын

    The Hiruzen and Tobirama disrespect is crazy

  • @hennigod8957

    @hennigod8957

    Жыл бұрын

    Exactly bro 😭😭😭 tobirama violates pre rikudou amps

  • @itsmesteve1081

    @itsmesteve1081

    Жыл бұрын

    There is just not enough information to know if second hokage could beat perfect susanoo. Sasuke had perfect susanoo before he got his 6 tomei rinnegan

  • @hennigod8957

    @hennigod8957

    Жыл бұрын

    @@itsmesteve1081 no he didn’t 😭 he gets the final form of Susanoo after the rikudou amp

  • @twontwon1827

    @twontwon1827

    Жыл бұрын

    @@itsmesteve1081 no he had full susano not perfect susano.. he got perfect susano after getting the rinnegan and sosp amp

  • @dax421
    @dax421 Жыл бұрын

    Tobirama is the back bone of Naruto. Even if you take away the jutsus and ninja related contributions he still has an insane impact on the story, culture and world of Naruto

  • @mentalj
    @mentalj Жыл бұрын

    Would have been really cool to see the Edo paperbomb combo. It's the one thing that can lay pressure on given the regen of Edo's

  • @spits61494
    @spits61494 Жыл бұрын

    You forgot to mention that he has the coolest character design

  • @NewAgeTownSquare
    @NewAgeTownSquare Жыл бұрын

    This man needs a million subs

  • @sabrinakod
    @sabrinakod Жыл бұрын

    Finally a good analysis of Tobirama, loved the video

  • @lightVs.DarkBalance
    @lightVs.DarkBalance Жыл бұрын

    Alive tobirama uses mutually multiplying explosive tags as well. Tobirama stated it was his first time using the jutsu with his own body. While tobirama was alive he would summon corpses and use those bodies to perform the jutsu. It's just a common misconception he can't use the jutsu while alive.

  • @dungeon-wn4gw

    @dungeon-wn4gw

    Жыл бұрын

    Not only this- nothings stopping him from using it with a shadow clone 😉

  • @kennyngeleka7387

    @kennyngeleka7387

    Жыл бұрын

    @@dungeon-wn4gw exact

  • @ohboi9578

    @ohboi9578

    Жыл бұрын

    @@dungeon-wn4gw it won't work. The shadow clone will just get blown away. He needs an indestructible body aka any edo tensei

  • @dungeon-wn4gw

    @dungeon-wn4gw

    Жыл бұрын

    @@ohboi9578 That doesnt make any sense. The moment the jutsu is activated, the Shadow Clone isnt needed. The shadow clone is only there to set it off. They can pop, and the jutsu will still go.

  • @ohboi9578

    @ohboi9578

    Жыл бұрын

    @@dungeon-wn4gw it needs to MOVE to a moving target. Thats why tobirama never used it with a clone. Papaer bombs need TIME to replicate themselves enough that it would make a significant damage. It is not an instaneous that's why you need a moving body to follow the target until the jutsu actually has enough fire power. Every other shinobi apart from six paths dudes would've run away the second they saw the paperbombs, it's literally common sense.

  • @AtenSol12
    @AtenSol12 Жыл бұрын

    "behind Danzo, of course" LMFAO! GOLD

  • @ISolicitous
    @ISolicitous Жыл бұрын

    3:52… Sasuke wasnt able to use Perfect Susano until he got a rinnegan though lol.

  • @gameuniverse5973

    @gameuniverse5973

    Жыл бұрын

    The ps is shown when he wraps the kyuubi avatar with the diamond from the ps there

  • @Twix44

    @Twix44

    Жыл бұрын

    @@gameuniverse5973 perfect susanoo has wings and u always at the top in the diamond shape

  • @jrgenaas-tynning7514
    @jrgenaas-tynning75142 жыл бұрын

    Lokking forward to this!

  • @shinbowlnoodles6308
    @shinbowlnoodles63082 жыл бұрын

    Wake up babe six uploaded a new vs battle

  • @nich61
    @nich61 Жыл бұрын

    your doing great six

  • @DanTheDoodler
    @DanTheDoodler Жыл бұрын

    Been waiting for this one

  • @Rukiasriot1
    @Rukiasriot1 Жыл бұрын

    The biggest issue I have with vs battles especially Naruto battles in particular is lack of info on characters we don’t know how strong prime hiruzen is we just him as a fossil we don’t know how hashirama died. And even for tobirama yeah he lost but we don’t know exactly how or even what state he was in. Also the fact that tactics and strategy seem to be less important than part 1 and early part 2 makes these less exciting

  • @badboy3p7

    @badboy3p7

    Жыл бұрын

    Yea, and all things considered, wasnt the kinkaku and Ginkaku squad made of 20 S-class shinobi......................That quite literally means Tobirama went down fighting a squad of basically 20 low to mid tier Akatsuki level fighters, all with their own unique jutsu and individual levels of strength and skill not to mention 2 of which who quite literally have version 2 nine tails cloaks to fight with as well as the sage of 6 paths weapons.................There's barely 10 people in the entire series who can survive this situation, not to mention the brothers we see fighting against Darui are nerfed by the edo tensei and are probably drastically stronger back then

  • @slllyy4985
    @slllyy4985 Жыл бұрын

    I thought you were gonna be done with vs battles a couple months ago? Edit:don’t stop btw I still somehow love them but I thought you said you didn’t like doing them

  • @kyartick8502
    @kyartick8502 Жыл бұрын

    Probably the worst thing about Naruto is random plot power ups. And I'm not talking about Naruto using the 9 tail, sage made, kcm. I'm talking about base forms randomly getting way more powerful. Basically training is useless because they get more powerful just because they mad. Obviously 13 year old Narutos base will go up naturally but look at Kakashi. Gut was 26 in P1 and he was zabuza level and he had the sharingan since 13. And he's known for it so clearly he uses it. But 13 years after getting the sharingan he can only use it for 1 fight and then being koed for days after and then in shippuden (2 years later) he mastered it. And then used his MS and went from being in the hospital for months after using it a few times to dying from using it too much to the war arc. They say by the time someone fully upgrades their susanoo they go blind. So plot said Kakashi can master his kamui long before going blind

  • @kelvinallen8214
    @kelvinallen8214 Жыл бұрын

    gaara pulled madara out of his susano using sand under his feet, which means the susano is an armor that is not attached to the persons body who is using it. so that means if tobirama makes physical contact with the susano he should be able to teleport it away to another location, or seperate them from it. Secondly, tobirama created his paperbomb jutsu for the edo tensei , its possible that the reason for orochimaru & kabuto bettering the jutsu could be because of how dark and wicked they were, to even want to attempt to to develop a jutsu that requires human sacrifice. this does not mean tobirama isn't smart enough to perfect it. he could have also been the one who made it a forbidden jutsu and discontinued it. so we should assume its apart of his jutsu arsenal & that he will use it if the reason is extremely important, such as protecting the leaf village by reviving a weakened person he could have killed . he should be able to summon an edo , activate the paperbomb jutsu and teleport away to avoid him self from being injured.

  • @smileyent.3055

    @smileyent.3055

    Жыл бұрын

    idk about that, they woulda showned it in the anime . Also susanoo is supposed to be a spirit armor meaning the caster can summon it anytime, i don't know if you can teleport it away. Even still, just to entertain your logic, it would be pointless as the uchiha in question could simply summon another susanoo armour

  • @itsmesteve1081

    @itsmesteve1081

    Жыл бұрын

    That version of susanoo was not the perfect form. Perfect susanoo is as big as Godzilla earth and has no openings like the version of susanoo you are talking about.

  • @uteriel282

    @uteriel282

    Жыл бұрын

    if he puts a mark on sasuke he can just teleport inside his susanoo and kill him since its defensive capabilities are only on the outside. hiraishin is just a broken jutsu that makes diferences in strength or abilities nearly meaningless.

  • @davidos8760

    @davidos8760

    Жыл бұрын

    @@smileyent.3055 yea but then they get speed get clapped as you force them to bring up the armor so save their asses and as it is about to hit the Sussanoo sorry you lost your amor good luck with this ninja nuke bye bye

  • @therealbnasty3719

    @therealbnasty3719

    Жыл бұрын

    @3rd Way sasuke could definitely catch tobirama in foot speed but teleportation is too broken… but it’s not as useful in combat as it would be let on

  • @The90sSkyDweller
    @The90sSkyDweller Жыл бұрын

    Bro these are the verses we need the obscure fights we forgot could’ve popped off

  • @KilwaKMusic3O1TrippYMVTT
    @KilwaKMusic3O1TrippYMVTT Жыл бұрын

    I really wanna see Sasuke use a modified version of his all around move set like an encased armor infernal style covering the Susuno or lighting covering it

  • @SpammytheHedgehog
    @SpammytheHedgehog2 жыл бұрын

    Imagine Tobirama meeting Tobi.

  • @damaritodd2180

    @damaritodd2180

    Жыл бұрын

    He did

  • @skittles664

    @skittles664

    Жыл бұрын

    @@damaritodd2180 not Obito,Tobi,the goofy one

  • @GodKiller97
    @GodKiller97 Жыл бұрын

    Idk personally I put Tobirama above base Madara/ Hashirama. He consistently is faster than the two and has the AP to kill both (tandem paper bombs would kill either of the two being protected by their strongest defenses and severing waves is enough to bisect either outside of those). OTHER people would die use TPB, Tobirama teleports away. I think that statement is just a general “nobody can survive this,” but Tobirama isn’t a nobody The version of Madara who who disrespected Tobirama was amped above his alive self (I’m not counting Rinnegan since he only obtained the rinnegan before he died). Sasuke was also disrespected by Madara and it’s not like he was a weakened edo. I don’t want to go into scaling specific feats to compare the two because there’s no space for that but my impression is that Tobirama wins against basically most versions of Sasuke, save for everything past his sage/ rinnegan amps. What amps has Tobirama ever gotten from being a special child? Side note though: the finger flex between him and Hashirama isn’t really to show the difference in power between the two, I think it’s meant to show that Hashirama is the dominant one between the two as he was (1) 1st hokage, (2) leader of the clan (3) older brother. Hashirama IS stronger, but Tobirama was casually flexing chakra whereas Hashirama was shown to be spiking his rather seriously to control Tobirama. In either case, both of them could likely spike their chakra even further than what was shown, and Sasuke’s reaction wasn’t just from pissing off one more than the other, it’s that he was pissing off both and once Hashi did it he realized he had to check himself because two of the biggest badasses to have ever done it where threatening him and overall just showing how superior they were compared to everyone else in the room. Tobirama has insane levels of chakra, it’s just that Naruto and Hashirama has more. I’d suspect he had at least as much as Madara given how Madara needed Kyuubi to match Hashi’s level of chakra.

  • @George-zc6dj

    @George-zc6dj

    Жыл бұрын

    Its an interesting take, but i feel that narratively its not backed up at all. Izuna sort of implies his below madara "theres someone stronger than you older brother?" when he met hashirama, and the fact that it was always those 2 fighting one another, and never either against the older sibling. The fact madara keeps praising hashirama and doesnt praise tobirama (excluding the speed part, which is contentious) and the fact that when madara activates his perfect susano, tobirama is literally shook and as far as we know never tried to fight him whilst his brother was alive. ive always viewed it as SM Hashirama > Base Hashirama >~ EMS Madara > Tobirama, and maybe in speed tobirama exceeds both of them.

  • @GodKiller97

    @GodKiller97

    Жыл бұрын

    @@George-zc6dj narratively Tobirama can’t kill any pre-rinne Sasuke or he isn’t stronger than base Hashi/ Madara? As far as physical feats go, he was on par with Hashi as edo in their fight against Hiruzen (actually, I think he has a stronger showing. Hashi mostly just used wood to immobilize Hiruzen while Tobi gave him the hands). Whether that’s stats or taijutsu ability is debatable. There’s nothing to suggest Hashi is more durable, just that he has massive regen which isn’t quite the same as durability. Hashirama is way stronger than Madara in sage mode and the only alive version of Madara that competes is rinne Madara. In base I don’t think there’s any wood jutsu Tobirama can’t cut through given his showing against the god tree and his severing wave was like a hot knife through butter (suggesting it would take something much more durable to even come close to stopping his jutsu). Also a single FTG seal on anyone would mean he could teleport paper bombs onto their bodies instantly. He has the speed necessary to do this and if his physical stats are in the ballpark (even if lower), they shouldn’t be killing him outright with taijutsu. I don’t see base Madara or Hashirama doing the things Tobirama did to any Juubi character. They all clearly became stronger from the time Izuna was killed, but if the potential is similar between the four, the only thing that separated them were EMS and Hashi getting sage mode meaning Tobirama should be comparable in base because of linear comparison and should be above in base based on feats. Madara needed all sorts of amps in the war without access to the kyuubi to do what he did to an edo Tobirama. And he only competed with Hashi before because of the kyuubi. Madara is also not a competent narrator when it comes to judging the power of other people because he has a bias for Hashirama. The only person who impressed him was Guy and he didn’t even say he was better than Hashirama, just that he was the best at taijutsu and that was having better showings against an even stronger version of him. There’s no way Madara would ever admit anybody is stronger than Hashirama, and his opinions are zero sum. If you’re not Hashirama you’re nothing. It’s just very dismissive and not really a reliable way to say how far or below someone is comparatively

  • @George-zc6dj

    @George-zc6dj

    Жыл бұрын

    @@GodKiller97 this was a good response and you actually really made me think about the edo fight against hiruzen, because even though they were both nerfed to shit, they were still relative with one another. again though for physical, does hiruzen not also say hashirama still has that "mighty strength" when nothing is said of tobirama? it seems to me the implication is that physically hashirama is much stronger. Yes and i agree 1000 percent about sage hashirama being stronger than any non amp version of madara (six and swag in the past have said ems madara scales over him which is absurd) while tobirama can cut through the god tree, it was still less of a scale than what hashirama normally uses. even though it regenerated, it was a smaller portion, while hashirama will shoot out significantly more wooden tendril things like with deep forest emergance, plus im curious as to how tobirama counters the poisonous flower, whilst fending off multiple tendrils, as well as golems, etc which have large destructive capabilities which realistically could kill tobirama, if a squadron of kinkaku/ginkaku and their men could (not saying its an anti feat, i just dont believe their dc or ap scales to anything hashirama has). Madara is bias for hashirama yes, but that bias and appreciation stems from the fact he admires his abilities so much, not just that they were friends. he constantly praises his abilities, ultimate shinobi, etc etc it goes on and on. he says nothing, literally nothing about tobirama, and even if you argue "its just because he hates him" there were parts he also hated hashirama yet still praised him constantly. also, he constantly praises other people like naruto and sasuke too, its not just hashirama. the fact tobirama also constantly obeys his brother and always backs down whenever he gets pushed, implies in the fight against juubito he needs him there at times (though it could be about his hax). if youre saying the ems and sage mode amp seperate them, then i obviously agree, but i dont consider ems a completely seperate form, its still base madara (unless you mean without sharingan lol)

  • @GodKiller97

    @GodKiller97

    Жыл бұрын

    @@George-zc6dj Madara compliments Sasuke’s eyes but not Sasuke specifically, and I don’t think he said anything about Naruto that was complimentary at all but I’m not going to die on that hill because I need to reread the fight to be sure about that. In any case, Madara hates Tobirama and even after death as an edo states that he’s been wanting to stab him for a long time and said it was too bad he wasn’t alive. His whole ultimatum involved Hashi killing Tobirama. And no I don’t think Tobirama could deal with wood spam but we only see that really from sage Hashi. Sage Hashi wins, but Tobirama should be able to deal with the pollen by burning it (I think the data books mention he’s mastered all 5 basic nature transformations and he has chakra on the scale of Madara to create large enough fire balls to probably do it). Hiruzen does mention Hashi’s strength so it probably suggests he’s physical stronger but most of the beat down was still given by Tobi, so maybe Tobi is a better fighter? It’s hard to draw too much from the fight in that regard, but I don’t Hashi is as strong as Tsunade given how Tsunade punched a giant hole in Madara and if Hashi were on her scale, the only way Madara survived battles with Hashi means that Madara either severely outclasses Hashi in taijutsu or Hashi didn’t possess the strength in life to one shot Madara like Tsunade does. He’s probably strong but not THAT strong since I don’t see him being so behind in taijutsu behind Madara that he can’t even hit him. Edo Ginkaku and Kinkaku also fought an entire division of the alliance and were defeated by sage weapons and questionable writing. Also Darui scales really well, it’s just not talked about. Tobirama fought stronger versions plus a heap full of other ninja. I don’t really consider his death here as an anti-feat. And yeah by base I mean regular mangekyou. Uchiha don’t really fight without activating it but it’s nebulous trying to argue what base is for an EMS user. We just suggest what we might think the amp is from mangekyou to EMS and Tobirama falls somewhere within that gap. Hot take but if alive Madara needed Kyuubi to even fight a Hashirama, I don’t think non-Kyuubi EMS Madara is really scaling that high against Tobirama. If Tobirama had full Kyuubi, where are we placing him? People already scale Tobirama to orange mask Obito. I don’t think alive EMS Madara is really that far above Orange Mask

  • @Enja___

    @Enja___

    Жыл бұрын

    @@GodKiller97 i believe Madara said (when Naruto destroyed the Deep Forest Emergence with his Odama Rasengan barrage. {I do want to point out this was in the anime and I can't be a 100% sure but I believe it was after the meteor fell since the Tsuchikage was very injured and wasn't being healed by Tsunade}) to Kabuto "You were right, he's quite the guy" or something like that

  • @HC-gm4fo
    @HC-gm4fo Жыл бұрын

    Tandem paper bomb is used on people Tobirama animate as well right, so he should be able to use the jutsu when alive Ftg away from the explosion

  • @Heistjdj1337
    @Heistjdj13372 жыл бұрын

    W what a banger W takes

  • @ra-lx9ku
    @ra-lx9ku Жыл бұрын

    6:46 it just came to my mind that this technipue is why madara said: " the original point the reanimation jutsu is to take people down with you

  • @lizzog4553
    @lizzog4553 Жыл бұрын

    Yo six wanted to let you know ur my favorite KZreadr and have a great day!

  • @uchihadeity1158
    @uchihadeity1158Ай бұрын

    I always find it interesting that these god tier fully grown adult fighters are close in strength to a teenager who's not even the main character. I.e Full potential fighter vs Mid potential fighter.

  • @azureascendant994
    @azureascendant994 Жыл бұрын

    We also have to consider who Tobirama would edotensei in a fight. Depending on the summon it would give him a large advantage over Sasuke. He would have 2 shadow clones and an edtensei ally to fight Sasuke. Eventually Sasuke would get overwhelmed by the amount of enemies he is facing.

  • @Bryan-gw6bn
    @Bryan-gw6bn Жыл бұрын

    Alive Tobirama could win. His FTG makes it impossible for Uchiha to react to him as shown when he killed Izuna. Also, he just needs to touch Sasuke once and he’ll be able to teleport into the Susano. Sasuke’s only defense is Amaterasu, which Tobirama could very well react to considering he was the fastest shinobi of his time. Tobirama has actually kept up with and, on one occasion, surpassed Minato in terms of reaction speed when they were both Edo Tensei. He could always use the Tandem Paper Bomb to tie with Sasuke as well, if not he may have an Edo that could be used as well.

  • @bobjohnson1633

    @bobjohnson1633

    Жыл бұрын

    WRONG. His ftg is not equal to 4ths ftg. He simply teleported a short distance with a melee attack, which prevented his attack being able to be seen.

  • @Bryan-gw6bn

    @Bryan-gw6bn

    Жыл бұрын

    @@bobjohnson1633 I never said the 2nd was equal to Minato in ftg. I said he could keep up with Minato’s ftg. Meaning that even though Minato is faster Tobirama isn’t much slower. Of course at their level of speed even a slight difference can put you on a whole other level. As for his flying thunder god slash you just admitted he can prevent his attack from being seen. If Sasuke can’t see the attack coming then he won’t be able to take advantage of the Sharigan’s visual prowess. Sasuke has never fought someone who could actually use the technique so it’s unlikely he’d be able to react to it in time. Also you never addressed the possibility of alive or Edo Tobirama using the tandem paper bomb.

  • @TienNguyen-ky4dx

    @TienNguyen-ky4dx

    Жыл бұрын

    ​@@bobjohnson1633FTG is not shunshin. He said Minato shunshin is better not FTG. How can you teleport faster since it happens instantly?

  • @bofi1280

    @bofi1280

    3 ай бұрын

    @@TienNguyen-ky4dx Thank you!

  • @RagingSovereign

    @RagingSovereign

    Ай бұрын

    This Minatotards immediately cry when their Minato God is compared to Tobirama HAHAHAHAH they're like onions​@@bobjohnson1633

  • @meetthemoo225
    @meetthemoo225 Жыл бұрын

    Short Answer : Tobirama beats almost every version of sasuke outside of Rinnegan teen sasuke , adult rinnegan sasuke and adult no rinnegan sasuke ( he still has lightning cloak without rinnegan)

  • @Alexmasonciaantij00

    @Alexmasonciaantij00

    Жыл бұрын

    Ems definitely wins keep coping

  • @christianred9755
    @christianred97552 жыл бұрын

    I need these everyday

  • @dashi1430
    @dashi14302 жыл бұрын

    Another W from six what a good day

  • @CerotheDemon
    @CerotheDemon Жыл бұрын

    Tobirama so slept on he’ll always be one of my favorites. I’m still on the side that EMS Sasuke still doesn’t take it, his Susanoo was not perfect either lol it was semi-perfect

  • @AlanJia8

    @AlanJia8

    Жыл бұрын

    With the Majestic Attire it was a Perfect Susanoo wrapped around the Kurama Avatar.

  • @joshlariviere152

    @joshlariviere152

    Жыл бұрын

    @@Kcinthasun wasn't sasuke buffed by jugo to do that as well as kurama chakra cloak?

  • @monarchs_mania
    @monarchs_mania Жыл бұрын

    Bro got them Seth the programer thumbnails now

  • @bushidobrown9549
    @bushidobrown95492 жыл бұрын

    Sasuke needed help in the war with itachi vs sage kabuto. Jugo gave him sage power and Naruto gave them a cloak. Wtf get the scaling right. Sasuke was clearly shown not to be on Narutos level in chakra mode when he made clones to fight the war, bijuu mode when juubito appeared then bijuu sage mode when Sasuke got heated just watching but NAWL in your opinion they even. Smh

  • @noyesno1899

    @noyesno1899

    Жыл бұрын

    That was KF-EMS who needed help, after that he gets fighting amps, maybe a hatred amp, and is just stronger overall. The Sage Power was to damage Juubito, and even so the Curse Mark is inferior to the SM Amp Naruto has, yet SEMS and BSM are still relative. I agreee EMS loses to BSM but to say KCM2 destroys him is just wrong. They are equal or I’d give it to Sasuke if its his Post-Juubito Fight Variant.

  • @davidhall3894

    @davidhall3894

    Жыл бұрын

    @@noyesno1899 id argue kcm2 naruto dookies on sasuke i think ems is somewhere between kcm1 and kcm2 but i feel like kcm2 is too much of a powerhouse for him to do anything. hashirama stated kcm2 naruto was rivaling his chakra reserves and just through hashirama flexing he not only scared the sh!t out sasuke but also easily undid orochimarus control over him whereas edo itachi (who id argue might be able to beat ems sasuke) couldn’t and had to use kotoamatsukami to break free. he’s def stronger than kcm1 but kcm2 claps his cheeks inside and out

  • @noyesno1899

    @noyesno1899

    Жыл бұрын

    @@davidhall3894 The issue is your prolly thinking of his Early/Mid War Arc variant. Post-Juubito Fight EMS is insane, being relative or superior to Blind SM Madara, a weaker Madara blitzed SM Naruto, with a Senjutsu amp fought equally with BSM Naruto, take away the Senjutsu amps and he’s relative to KCM2. Its worse if I argue that EMS Sasuke had the PS at the end of the Juubito-Fight, the thing likely needed to push him to EMS Madara’s level.

  • @gameuniverse5973

    @gameuniverse5973

    Жыл бұрын

    Even tho i hate it ems Sasuke was clearly relative too juubito somehow

  • @167kinggam

    @167kinggam

    Жыл бұрын

    @@gameuniverse5973 no he’s not. Tobirama said he “could surpass madara”, meaning EMS sasuke still hasn’t reached madara level. No way is he relative to obito, BSM naruto carried that fight.

  • @mleeper45
    @mleeper45 Жыл бұрын

    Why do versus battles always take Edo Tensei away from Tobirama? He used it enough in life that the revived Kage during the war thought he was the summoner initially. And everyone needs prep to perform it, including Kabuto. So I think alive Tobirama should have two states: one with Edo Tensei prep and one without.

  • @itssumatofr
    @itssumatofr Жыл бұрын

    why am i on a six binge rn 😭

  • @Forever15xk
    @Forever15xk Жыл бұрын

    six can you do a sasuke vs minato all versions

  • @mrmadskillz1240
    @mrmadskillz1240 Жыл бұрын

    Amen have a blessed day

  • @LiktechTz
    @LiktechTz Жыл бұрын

    You kind of missed that sasuke got a buff from naruto before they even fought in control jubito. But tobirama just doesn't have answers for most of sasuke's justus so ems beats him outright

  • @Tray3tar

    @Tray3tar

    Жыл бұрын

    Name some justu that he has that can kill tobirama before he got rinnegan blaze release is not touching him kirin need’s prep time susanno is not touching him sasuke would run out of chakra tobirama would kill that form of sasuke

  • @iNsOmNiAcAnDrEw
    @iNsOmNiAcAnDrEw Жыл бұрын

    Part of why Sasuke started going darker in personality was because his guts were replaced by Juugo's guts(because Killer B mortally wounded him).

  • @realme-tq4cq
    @realme-tq4cq Жыл бұрын

    Ayo six. Do you work at chase bank? I know it’s a weird question but I lost my debit card and needed help getting a new one sent in. I swear it was you who answered the phone. Thanks for the help family.

  • @sixfromtokyo

    @sixfromtokyo

    Жыл бұрын

    It's not me bruh...

  • @jablue4329
    @jablue4329 Жыл бұрын

    What's stopping Tobirama from using the Tandem Explosive Tags then leaving with FTG?

  • @sixfromtokyo

    @sixfromtokyo

    Жыл бұрын

    The jutsu description says it means certain death for the user meaning that's probably not possible

  • @teeheeteeeheeididit6379

    @teeheeteeeheeididit6379

    Жыл бұрын

    @@sixfromtokyo he uses edo tensei then dips

  • @sixfromtokyo

    @sixfromtokyo

    Жыл бұрын

    @@teeheeteeeheeididit6379 you need hella prep for that you need a living sacrifice as well as a body to summon

  • @HeilRay
    @HeilRay10 ай бұрын

    When Sasuke mentioned if he wanted to exact revenge on the leaf, Tobirama had the 'evil uchiha' slur in his hot keys. Lol he was about to do more with that finger than the Thousand years of death jutsu.

  • @greatestoxidine3480
    @greatestoxidine3480 Жыл бұрын

    Hey Six. I got banned and I'm not sure why. I didn't even get a warning. Could we message or nah?

  • @greatestoxidine3480

    @greatestoxidine3480

    Жыл бұрын

    Didn't know if my message was loaded or not. So if you see another message of mine around here. Then sorry.

  • @yourgrandpabillyjohnson1888
    @yourgrandpabillyjohnson18882 жыл бұрын

    Let's gooo

  • @MarcellxBackrooms20112
    @MarcellxBackrooms20112 Жыл бұрын

    Guys his channel name is six and i saw him on my recommendation page next to this video was a channel named nine LIKE WHY IT MAKES 69 bruh

  • @chaxx0248
    @chaxx0248 Жыл бұрын

    I will never understand how someone can say “Tobirama created the tandem paper bombs to use with the edo tensei” and then continue to restrict alive tobirama from using it😭 makes absolutely no sense. He can use it while alive, he just doesn’t perform the jutsu with his own body. He sends some unnamed edo to do it for him.

  • @headshotmaster138

    @headshotmaster138

    Жыл бұрын

    Or a Shadow clone if possible.

  • @gameuniverse5973

    @gameuniverse5973

    Жыл бұрын

    @@headshotmaster138 you dint think ems Sasuke won't see the shadow clone with bunch of paper tags covering it when with a base Sharigan he saw micro bombs

  • @grandempress1947

    @grandempress1947

    Жыл бұрын

    @@gameuniverse5973 Seeing it and dodging it are two totally different things my guy. Remember how well he saw Bee's swords yet still got clapped?

  • @jms7265

    @jms7265

    Жыл бұрын

    @@grandempress1947 Bee is as fast as it gets without a Shunshin no Jutsu, Bee is an exception

  • @eric8841
    @eric8841 Жыл бұрын

    Six sounding more and more like Seth every video

  • @ndprod.animationenthusiast9376
    @ndprod.animationenthusiast93762 жыл бұрын

    Sasuke: I’n going to destroy the village! Tobirama: Watch me murder an Uchiha!

  • @Forever15xk
    @Forever15xk Жыл бұрын

    Six I'm Confused You Said EMS sasuke had the perfect susanoo When? I Only Seen EMS Sasuke Use the full body susanoo

  • @notkimjongun3752
    @notkimjongun3752 Жыл бұрын

    FINALLY some respect for toibrama!

  • @itsmesteve1081
    @itsmesteve1081 Жыл бұрын

    I think any form of second hokage could wreck any form of sasuke if he doesn't have perfect susanoo. Like you said there just isn't enough information about the second hokage to know if he could beat the perfect susanoo

  • @justincousins2427

    @justincousins2427

    Жыл бұрын

    What are you saying 😐

  • @uteriel282

    @uteriel282

    Жыл бұрын

    hiraishin beats pretty much anything as long as the caster marked his target. susanoo cant protect sasuke when tobirama simply teleports inside it.

  • @flowbrogonewild5557

    @flowbrogonewild5557

    Жыл бұрын

    @@uteriel282 sasuke is more than capable of avoiding being tagged. he was keeping up w/ juubito and bsm naruto. and tobirama himself admitted that he was inferior to base minato in terms of ftg

  • @citiestoash
    @citiestoash Жыл бұрын

    I always saw Tobirama as more of a creative rather than power for the sake of power kind of Shinobi. He INVENTED a wide array of jutsu that many of the strongest characters to come out of Naruto use as their calling card. Minato, Orochimaru being two key examples. No doubt most people’s fav shinobi could take him down. But he was the forerunner for ALOT of characters that came after. That’s where my respect for him is

  • @uchiharainy
    @uchiharainy Жыл бұрын

    Itachi and Nagato vs Hashirama would be interesting I think. Or even Hashirama vs the rest of the edo tensei, could he beat them all or could a specific team cause him problems

  • @gameuniverse5973

    @gameuniverse5973

    Жыл бұрын

    Hashirama is murking unless you include kcm Minato, Tobirama,and hiruzen

  • @aut0mat1c11
    @aut0mat1c11 Жыл бұрын

    MS Sasuke fought and won against Unruly Ay, who's movement speed was comparable to Minato, who is faster then Tobirama. MS Sasuke was reacting to Ay even when his Lightning Armour was amp to Bijuu level, according to Karin, and would have killed Ay with Amatarasu had Gaara not saved him. The same Ay who heard that Kinkaku and Ginkaku were reanimated and was ready to go into the battlefield with only one arm. The Silver and Gold brothers were the ones responsible for killing Tobirama. MS Sasuke also fought Danzo, a student of Tobirama, and outsmarted him. Tobirama fought Uchiha's most of his life, yet he passed on that knowledge to Danzo, but Danzo knows more about the Uchiha's than Tobirama because of the fact he was spying on them for years. If MS Sasuke won his fight against Danzo by outsmarting him, then I have no reason to believe Sasuke wouldn't be able to outsmart someone less knowledgeable then Danzo. EMS Sasuke has reacted to Juubito's attack, saved MasteredKCM1 Naruto from a TruthSeekingOrb, that not even KCM Minato reacted fast enough to save his son himself. I don't see Tobirama winning this fight, KCM1 Naruto tanked the Cataclysm attack from the Juubi and EMS Sasuke is casually above that. His Susano'o tanked the TruthSeekingOrb attack from Juubito when Tobirama's tandem paper bomb explosions couldn't even destroy a TruthSeekingOrb. The say I see it is that Sasuke has Speed feats, Reaction feats, Attack Power feats, Durability feats, Tactical Intelligence feats.

  • @-OUS_J

    @-OUS_J

    Жыл бұрын

    People think “Tobirama’s fast” but they’re forgetting that Sasuke’s also fast as fuck

  • @aut0mat1c11

    @aut0mat1c11

    Жыл бұрын

    @@-OUS_J not only that, people also forget that Sasuke is a tactician too. In universe characters praise people like Shikamaru for his intellect, Tobirama and his inventions, Itachi and his talent, yet Sasuke isn't praised for his genius but he shows us. They talk the talk, but Sasuke walks the walk.

  • @kelvinallen9327

    @kelvinallen9327

    Жыл бұрын

    Danzo may have been a little more knowledgable about uchias, but danzo lacked the power & speed, Literally 👍

  • @aut0mat1c11

    @aut0mat1c11

    Жыл бұрын

    @@kelvinallen9327 agreed

  • @christianramirez3754

    @christianramirez3754

    11 ай бұрын

    ​@@kelvinallen9327i think Danzo is stronger than given credit for, he has hashirama cells which Amp stats

  • @buckashisensei
    @buckashisensei Жыл бұрын

    bro made 3 of the main jutsu of the series and he got the drip , put some respect on my bois name

  • @angrydaniel2905
    @angrydaniel29052 жыл бұрын

    Time for that Tobirama downplay from Six. Stepping stone fodder

  • @abrahamlincoln7907

    @abrahamlincoln7907

    2 жыл бұрын

    If you think there’s any tobirama downplay join the discord

  • @Freakingbad89

    @Freakingbad89

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@abrahamlincoln7907 that's a great quote abe 👌

  • @angrydaniel2905

    @angrydaniel2905

    2 жыл бұрын

    Oh my god he said Tobirama > Ems Madara in speed is possible. The character development

  • @gameuniverse5973

    @gameuniverse5973

    Жыл бұрын

    @@angrydaniel2905 i highly doubt Tobirama was faster than ems Madara but eh

  • @andrejmisev2386

    @andrejmisev2386

    Жыл бұрын

    @@angrydaniel2905 six is a gigachad now

  • @DeathTK
    @DeathTK Жыл бұрын

    As a Tobirama Stan. I’ll take it

  • @Samy_aza_TTV
    @Samy_aza_TTV Жыл бұрын

    How are you gonna just graze over his speed and bringer of darkness like He didn’t use one of them To kill a uchiha who was suppose to match madaras power… Tobirama would literally either blitz him or use bringer of darkness. Lol

  • @doctorfloppa2021

    @doctorfloppa2021

    Жыл бұрын

    doubt bringer of darkness would work and sasuke could prolly beat him if he uses his susanoo

  • @George-zc6dj

    @George-zc6dj

    Жыл бұрын

    @@doctorfloppa2021 you cant just say you doubt it would work, and considering sasuke as far as we know has no idea what it is that would make it more effective. i agree though i dont see how he gets through the susanoo

  • @papicarlos8618

    @papicarlos8618

    Жыл бұрын

    Tobirama has only fought against a uchiha with regular mangekyo I assume you speaking of Izuna as madara's equal that he killed Both izuna and madara had basic mangekyo Sasuke has EMS when he meets tobirama

  • @gameuniverse5973

    @gameuniverse5973

    Жыл бұрын

    @@George-zc6dj it won't work when itachi can't genjustu early ems Sasuke with tsukoyimi wtf is bringer of darkness doing

  • @George-zc6dj

    @George-zc6dj

    Жыл бұрын

    @@gameuniverse5973 When did itachi use tsukoyomi on ems sasuke what??

  • @mattnamikaze7887
    @mattnamikaze7887 Жыл бұрын

    Six, do you think EMS Sasuke could put Edo Tobirama in Izanami? Would that count as a pseudo sealing?

  • @gameuniverse5973

    @gameuniverse5973

    Жыл бұрын

    Highly doubt it Amaterasu is Sasuke biggest advantage Tobirama gonna zip all over the place for izanami too work

  • @HC-gm4fo

    @HC-gm4fo

    Жыл бұрын

    No, there are certain conditions for it to work

  • @ides0745
    @ides0745 Жыл бұрын

    To be honest? I think Tobirama was the best hokage. I know that's a stretch, but think. Hashirama created the basic structure, like a wooden outline (pun intented) to a full on house. Tobirama built on that drastically and made the foundations for a village that would survive 3 ninja wars and rebuild after being destroyed twice. He could create water out of air. AIR! He had one of the most legendary swords out there only behind the 7 ninja swordsmen's weapons and *maybe* the kusanagi. He created the Flying Thunder God and the Impure World Ressurection. Tobirama was the best hokage, hands down.

  • @actuallyreallybored3552

    @actuallyreallybored3552

    Жыл бұрын

    Impure World Ressurection caused so many problems(See War Arc), I would argue that’s really not a good thing. Besides, without Tobirama, Konoha wouldn’t be near the level of “Strongest Village” but, without Hashirama, Konoha wouldn’t exist and Naruto would still be in the Warring States Era. Who’s going to establish the Village with the Uchiha? The “Racist Hokage”?

  • @lipe9039

    @lipe9039

    Жыл бұрын

    @@actuallyreallybored3552 That's a bad take, sure the Edo Tensei was a jutsu that shouldn't have been created or shared with other. But Tobirama did give the Uchiha the Police force so that they would have a big role to play when it came to the village, it was Danzo that literally separated them from the rest of the Village.

  • @actuallyreallybored3552

    @actuallyreallybored3552

    Жыл бұрын

    @@lipe9039 I'm not saying Tobirama is a shit Kage or Danzo isn't basically responsible for half of Konoha's Problems. But Tobirama making peace with Madara is just silly. Plus Tobirama created the PF as a way to keep the Uchiha's emotions in check, not of good faith.

  • @lipe9039

    @lipe9039

    Жыл бұрын

    @@actuallyreallybored3552 nope, he literally had the strongest uchiha at the time (besides Madara), kagami uchiha along side him protecting him why would he not trust them and then place the strongest in the village as his 2nd right hand

  • @actuallyreallybored3552

    @actuallyreallybored3552

    Жыл бұрын

    @@lipe9039 That only happened cause Hashirama and Madara actually created peace and made the village. Tobirama didn't even know Kagami until Post-WSE. Hashirama and Madara was the literal only remotely positive relationship between Senju and Uchiha before the Village was made. Kagami is also explicitly stated to be one of the *few* Uchiha Tobirama believed in.

  • @GreyLeo
    @GreyLeo Жыл бұрын

    How about Danzo vs Orochimaru I always thought it would be a nice fight

  • @gameuniverse5973

    @gameuniverse5973

    Жыл бұрын

    Orochimaru screws him unless he has koto not on cooldown

  • @ross.b8699

    @ross.b8699

    Жыл бұрын

    Orochimaru would stomp

  • @hennigod8957
    @hennigod8957 Жыл бұрын

    Tobirama slaps.

  • @canady82
    @canady82 Жыл бұрын

    Why ya editing don't act like the pitch of ya voice change

  • @ipakhtoonlad6446
    @ipakhtoonlad64464 ай бұрын

    You forgot that he fight 20 S rank shinobis and kinkaku and ginkaku plus he lives in a warring state period so he has a much BIQ on that regards

  • @KNGDDDE
    @KNGDDDE Жыл бұрын

    He prolly kept tobiramas feats on the hush to imply him figuratively and literally being overshadowed by hashirama

  • @zelz3011
    @zelz3011 Жыл бұрын

    Let's GET IT!!! Interesting scaling. Kabuto fight... Wow I'm not saying much here... I see...

  • @amartn6017
    @amartn6017 Жыл бұрын

    Bruh where tf Seth and swag been? Are they strictly stream now?

  • @sixfromtokyo

    @sixfromtokyo

    Жыл бұрын

    They'll be back real soon :)

  • @sunflow57
    @sunflow57 Жыл бұрын

    Interesting 🤔

  • @RBALLER
    @RBALLER2 жыл бұрын

    W Video

  • @LuhTwizzy__

    @LuhTwizzy__

    2 жыл бұрын

    You barely watched the video for all we know he could be praising hitler for 8 minutes of the video.

  • @abrahamlincoln7907

    @abrahamlincoln7907

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@LuhTwizzy__ boy what the hell 😭😭

  • @sixfromtokyo

    @sixfromtokyo

    2 жыл бұрын

    Bro WHAT lmfao. Nah but that's my guy I showed him the vid before I uploaded it.

  • @tm8089
    @tm80892 жыл бұрын

    tobirama has a mental amp in this fight. Sure, we have seen how strong he is when fighting uchihas, but when fighting with the guy that killed Itachi? Tobirama gon go crazyy

  • @ddl3718

    @ddl3718

    Жыл бұрын

    I mean sasuke prolly gets a mental amp as well. His ambition + tobirama being at least part responsible for the torment all the uchiha’s had to go through def gotta get him a rage amp

  • @George-zc6dj

    @George-zc6dj

    Жыл бұрын

    @@ddl3718 Tobirama wasnt responsible for the shitty treatment of the uchihas and he actually treated them well, the problem was Madara (who the whole clan hated for good reason) and later danzo who took advantage of the mess madara created (nine tails)

  • @gameuniverse5973

    @gameuniverse5973

    Жыл бұрын

    @@George-zc6dj you think ems Sasuke cares

  • @animehighlights1079
    @animehighlights107910 ай бұрын

    It’s full body sousanno I know I spelled that wrong 😂

  • @mikitadou
    @mikitadou Жыл бұрын

    If its natural Mangekyou Sasuke, without amps from Itachi's eyes or 6 path chakra gift, then Tobirama stomps.

  • @Nolimit-hf4md
    @Nolimit-hf4md Жыл бұрын

    It seem like every other video six got a different interpretation of the Sakura saying she finally caught up to Naruto and Sasuke , I just pointed this out on the Sakura vs Hinata video where he said she isn't relative to them in power and it was just a resolve the he dropped this and proved my point 🤦

  • @ilovesteakandfries

    @ilovesteakandfries

    Жыл бұрын

    he picks and chooses what feats he wants to use or dispute to bolster his points and then whenever someone calls out the nonsensical logic he claims you don’t understand and are interpreting wrong😂

  • @lastraider2435

    @lastraider2435

    Жыл бұрын

    Not to disagree with you just my 2 takes on that sakura statement. In power meaning destructive damage obviously are you gonna argue that sakura has the same level of iq as sasuke or that sakura has the same level of stamina as naruto she doesn't that statement means she is relative to them in destructive damage and even then naruto had more damage potential than sakura.

  • @curtiswilliams1412

    @curtiswilliams1412

    Жыл бұрын

    Thank you I've been saying this🤦🏾‍♂️

  • @matthiasrauert8397
    @matthiasrauert8397 Жыл бұрын

    Was it ever explained if the sharingan itself makes the uchiha grow more hateful or is that just inherent to them? And does the hate make them more powerful in general or just their eyepowers? What would happen if a uchiha lost both eyes, would he still become stronger with negative emotions?

  • @Acradus

    @Acradus

    Жыл бұрын

    The hatred is what strengthens the sharingan in a general sense. Its not always hate (you could argue Obito was despair and Sarada was love). Their eyes give them extremely acute sensory ability, and reaction speeds. Reactions buffs all their technique types (taijutsu, ninjutsu, kenjutsu, etc) by being able to read-react faster, decipher weaknesses in defenses and attacks, and grants amped genjutsu ability (to varying degrees). Hate works as fuel for them to pursue more strength or power, not uchiha exclusive, but rhey are highly susceptible to hateful/destructive paths due to the cycle started by indra and asura. If an uchiha lost both eyes, they will not have any benefits their genetics bring them other than likely a fire affinity. They won’t be able to see, so they’re effectively dead unless it’s also a perfect sage uchiha. They would still become stronger with negative emotions in the same way sasuke found external sources of power in the curse mark, jugo, karin. They would never be that strong though, since they have no dojutsu(the literal only benefit to being an uchiha). No uchiha has been shown to have massive chakra reserves except for Madara and one could argue, Sasuke(his rinnegan spam is a fairly chakra intensive method of fighting)

  • @matthiasrauert8397

    @matthiasrauert8397

    Жыл бұрын

    @@Acradus Thanks man. Learned a lot just now.

  • @Acradus

    @Acradus

    Жыл бұрын

    @@matthiasrauert8397 I’m sure i made mistakes somewhere, but the general concept is just what i wrote! No problem either!

  • @IkEisawesome7
    @IkEisawesome7 Жыл бұрын

    I saw this title and... what? edit: I see, this makes more sense lol

  • @bjrnthebootybandit
    @bjrnthebootybandit Жыл бұрын

    9:00 is exactly why you shouldn't take databook statements seriously. "No one who confronts Sasuke stands a chance of living" yeah OK bud

  • @wisdomokafor9631
    @wisdomokafor9631 Жыл бұрын

    I believe that Sasuke could use his Susano or even teleport with is renigan to avoid the paper explosive jutsu of tobirama

  • @drakobby6418
    @drakobby6418 Жыл бұрын

    Tobirama is my second favorite character next to hashirama I think his hate of the uchiha clan is completely valid losing multiple brothers in the war will do that to u I think he was insanely powerful and i also wish we would’ve seen more of both of them

  • @Chubbs2206
    @Chubbs2206 Жыл бұрын

    I just simply don't see EMS Sasuke beating Tobirama. Sasuke got blitzed and experienced the most humbling experience when blind Madara made him look like a fly trapped in a spider's web, while Tobirama while weakened by edo tensei got a couple dodges from that same Madara a couple seconds prior. To further prove my point, the EMS Sasuke you're using in the Juubito fight was on par to edo Tobirama but Sasuke was also buffed by both Kurama's chakra and Jugo's sage chakra, and according to Kakashi, Kurama's chakra is a 3x amp(I think it is, I don't remember Kakashi's exact line). The fact that EMS Sasuke buffed by Kurama and Jugo is equal to edo Tobirama shows that solo EMS Sasuke would be inferior to edo Tobirama, let alone Tobirama in his prime, not by a large margin though(for edo, I can see prime Tobirama mid diff EMS Sasuke). To top that argument off, both Naruto and Sasuke only managed to perform so well in the early stages of the battle because Tobirama and Minato were enabling them with their flying raijin seals. I also think Tobirama's as fast as Minato, the former praises Minato's prowess in flicker, not specifically the flying raijin. How can Minato be faster in the flying raijin if both of them are a teleport? You can't be faster than the other if the both are instantaneous, Minato just developed the seal more I guess. Going back to Juubito here, we see Juubito have the capabilities to clash and keep up with Sasuke and Naruto, while Tobirama and Minato were constantly perception blitzing Juubito with ease, and I'm positive Juubito's reaction time should be higher than EMS Sasuke's. To end things off I personally think Tobirama's chakra finger flex is a valid argument her. Tobirama flexing one finger worth of chakra managed to dirty the entirety of Taka's underwear, including Sasuke and forced Orochimaru to prepare the control seal. Sure Hashirama boasted more power than Tobirama in that moment, but one finger was able to humble Sasuke to the point where he actually started stressing out(the drop of sweat). In conclusion, I see any form of Tobirama low-mid diffing MS Sasuke, edo Tobirama would high diff Sasuke and prime Tobirama would easily mid diff EMS Sasuke all because he has a fairly developed susano'o.

  • @christianramirez3754

    @christianramirez3754

    11 ай бұрын

    But tobirama got absolutely destroyed by 1 Rinnegan madara without limbo, a weaker version of this madara was able to blitz sage mode naruto yet was comparable in taijutsu to sasuke. Sasuke only got killed because of Limbo which is the same technique that took out all the tailed beasts

  • @Chubbs2206

    @Chubbs2206

    11 ай бұрын

    @@christianramirez3754 Sasuke’s taijutsu was nowhere near Madara’s. He didn’t even spar with Madara, he just frozen in the air then stabbed. Tobirama actually contested against Madara for a couple seconds.

  • @christianramirez3754

    @christianramirez3754

    11 ай бұрын

    @@Chubbs2206 when madara was revived he fought madara for way longer than tobirama did, and managed to land a hit on his arm

  • @SpammytheHedgehog
    @SpammytheHedgehog2 жыл бұрын

    Tobirama's like, seems like Itachi missed one.

  • @nonhumanperson9362
    @nonhumanperson93622 жыл бұрын

    Hey six, when do you think you'll stop letting Seth little bro you?

  • @sixfromtokyo

    @sixfromtokyo

    2 жыл бұрын

    Can't recall a time he ever did that but, when do you think you'll stop being a loser?

  • @nonhumanperson9362

    @nonhumanperson9362

    Жыл бұрын

    @@sixfromtokyo probably around the time you get back on bars

  • @hennigod8957

    @hennigod8957

    Жыл бұрын

    @@sixfromtokyo when you start accepting that 1. Minato isn’t that fast, he’s literally kcm1-2 level with base/kcm or sm. 2. Minato loses to tobirama & 3. Minato used ftg to get to the battlefield

  • @itjustxninja8907
    @itjustxninja8907 Жыл бұрын

    While they were fighting jubito wasnt Sasuke powered up by jugo and naruto

  • @gameuniverse5973

    @gameuniverse5973

    Жыл бұрын

    He was then Sasuke lost both power ups then was somehow keeping up with juubito