Guys thanks for 190K views ❤ and plz stop saying ‘where was Gondor when titanic sank’ and ‘it’s not founder it’s flounder’flounder is a type of fish and if they say titanic will flounder it means titanic will be a fish 😂😂😂

"But this ship can't sink!" "She's made of iron, sir. I assure you she can. *And she will.* "

@MenteMaestra91

Ай бұрын

Thank you, we all saw the video.

@sethronalds9457

Ай бұрын

@@MenteMaestra91 just because someone pissed in your cheerios does not mean you have to be a jerk. this is youtube. Do you know how often this happens? Clearly not, that would require the use of your brain.

@18Hongo

Ай бұрын

In reality, Ismay and everyone else at White Star was well aware that the Titanic wasn't invulnerable. The "unsinkable" line was spread by the press, not the company; they had already lost several ships over the years, and certainly weren't stupid enough to make a claim that could turn into such a PR disaster if it was disproved.

@Kiboxxx

Ай бұрын

I guess it was made of steel, to be more precise.

@GeneralNaga67

Ай бұрын

@@Kiboxxxwhat is steel if not iron with extra carbon :P

"It's a mathematical certainty". Cold blooded. The statement that stripped everyone in the room of all hope.

@jeffschueler1182

Ай бұрын

I love math, it never lies.

@adamlee3772

Ай бұрын

That is what we engineer types do.

@30AndHatingIt

Ай бұрын

Discarded their foolish hope and replaced it with the urgency to get to f-ing work, with haste.

@Amp661

Ай бұрын

​@@jeffschueler1182agreed. Even Foghorn Leghorn states it clearly "Two half nuthins is a whole nuthin! You can argue with me but you can't argue with figures!"

@ArchlordFelix

Ай бұрын

@@jeffschueler1182 It did lie actually. Titanic took a lot more time than Andrews anticipated, he did not calculate for certain. Math is just full numbers, but people decide the value of those numbers. Whatever you calculate, it was Titanic's architecture and personnel's efforts that made sure that ship did not sink in such a short time. Math does not calculate everything and does not care for circumstances. That is why we have physics and physic formulas which is better.

I remember watching this on VHS. This is the exact moment cassette #1 ends. Strange that I can remember that.

@Ice-hh7tl

Ай бұрын

Likely because it made an impact on you because of the irony of how it played out. The first tape ended with a confirmation that the ship was going to end, the beginning of the second tape was the beginning of the end.

@stephenmurphy2212

Ай бұрын

We had the VHS tape of Titanic when I was a kid but we didn’t need to change tapes. It was all on one tape. What era are you from?

@italianviking80

Ай бұрын

Titanic was released on VHS in September 1998. Due to its runtime of over three hours, the movie was split across two VHS tapes. I’ve never seen a version presented on a single VHS tape. Later, when the movie was released on DVD, the entire film could fit onto a single disc.

@jamaldominicbarr7379

Ай бұрын

I had a tape that was set to SLP or was it ELP, it was a long time ago, memory is kinda foggy.

@hereLiesThisTroper

Ай бұрын

Gentlemen, I love this discussion about VHS tapes, but remember, we are confusing the Gen Z's. 😂

I'm glad the captain found a second life as King of the Rohirrim in Middle Earth.

@Eyrothath

Ай бұрын

That time I sunk on a ship and drowned and was reborn in a fantasy world

@piq5279

Ай бұрын

No way! How was he when he filmed Titanic lol, he looks younger in LOTR

@Disciple_Of_Lerxst

Ай бұрын

But he died there too! Guy can't catch a break!

@maltesefalcon85

Ай бұрын

and dont forget mr ismay! before this he was a butler to the richest kid on earth, he then became a big game hunter but after the ship sunk he joined an exhibition in egypt to find the lost city of hamunaptra releasing an undead horror

@Disciple_Of_Lerxst

Ай бұрын

@@maltesefalcon85 Don't forget?! I don't even know what you're talking about! Missed all those flicks.

“Titanic calls for aid!” “And Carpathia will answer!”

@jack1701e

Ай бұрын

Carpathia was really the Gandalf in this event, pushing her boilers so hard to get the survivors that she never went as fast as she could.

@dominicchallis2928

Ай бұрын

@@jack1701eLike Gandalf if Gandalf had got lost because of temperature inversions and aurora borealis interference, and had arrived at noon instead of dawn to save a grand total of 3 soldiers and a bunch of people in the caves while everyone else who fought had already been cut down.

@nicksivert5431

Ай бұрын

Man at the telegraph responding to Titanic, "We have changed course and are currently haulin' ass!"

@18Hongo

Ай бұрын

​@@dominicchallis2928 The Carpathia never got lost. She was too far away to reach the Titanic in time when she received the distress signal. She broke her own top speed, navigated through an ice field, and basically wrote the book on sea rescue on the fly.

@dominicchallis2928

Ай бұрын

@@18Hongo You’re right, I was thinking of the SS Californian.

"She's made of iron sir, i assure you, she can" that hit hard

@theozlander4629

Ай бұрын

Hey wasn't that the guy from the og mummy who said it can't sink? The one who yells YOU MUST NOT READ FROM THE BOOK!

“In an hour or so…all of this will be at the bottom of the Atlantic.”

@tommyfred6180

Ай бұрын

no it takes a body about 30 mins to get to the bottom mate.

The actor who played captain E. J. Smith, Bernard Hill, died on May 5, 2024 at age 79.

@nordiccombatant2167

Ай бұрын

Are you serious?????😢😢😢😢

@howardbeatman2820

Ай бұрын

Hill should have won a supporting-actor Oscar for his flawless performance.

@CatholicJedi

Ай бұрын

@@howardbeatman2820 He went to his fathers. And even in their mighty company he shall not now be ashamed.

@mikesimon7634

Ай бұрын

Hail theoden king!!

@bryanbarnes388

Ай бұрын

@@mikesimon7634Riders of Rohan.

A few hours before "the maiden voyage of Titanic must make headlines!" And now "you may get your headlines Mr. Ismay". One of the best scenes.

@chadbrown748

Ай бұрын

Good call-back.

@Helgardt6189

Ай бұрын

“In in hour or so…all of this will be at the bottom of the Atlantic.”

@Foebane72

Ай бұрын

Sinking a ship on its maiden voyage will sure make headlines!

@chadbrown748

Ай бұрын

@@Foebane72 And it did. "TITANIC DISASTER! GREAT LOSS OF LIFE!"

@pianomanfred1948

Ай бұрын

"I believe you may get your headlines, Mr. Ismay". Best line in the movie.

Who else remembers this scene as the one where you had to take out the VHS tape and put in the second one?

@sledheadjd

Ай бұрын

The good o'l days

'Can you put this in layman's terms?' 'Our ocean liner is now turning into a submarine...'

"When can we get underway??" Dude is LITERALLY not listening to a single damn word....

@Ice-hh7tl

Ай бұрын

@@RedRaider14 I mean…. Teeeechnically, they got “under”way about an hour later

@blockmasterscott

Ай бұрын

@@Ice-hh7tl Ok, that made me laugh out loud. 🤣 🤣🤣🤣

@marksloan7438

Ай бұрын

Maybe he said "When can we get underwater??"

@Milnoc

Ай бұрын

@@marksloan7438 At which point they'll be underway vertically.

@robin-kq7un

Ай бұрын

Indeed; and sadly there are still many Bruce Ismays around today.

0:29 The direction the camera moves makes the ship look like how it sank. The front goes down and the back goes up.

@itoyokocho.mp4

Ай бұрын

now you point that out i never realized that, good catch

@GasparKvarta

Ай бұрын

Bravo Vince

@Amp661

Ай бұрын

Good catch, very ominous

@xjcrossx

Ай бұрын

Not sure I ever noticed that, thanks for pointing it out.

@francoissegard7289

Ай бұрын

Yes, i first saw it when I saw this vidéo.

This is the best scene in the movie. The acting was so perfect, timing, expressions, everything. Makes you feel aboard.

I like how Andrews says “she can stay afloat with the first 4 compartments breached, but not 5, not 5.” He emphasizes that to Smith, and Smith immediately understands the deeper meaning behind it, and that not everyone is going to make it off.

Look at Camerons subtle direction and camera work. You can barely tell that hes working his magic. All of the tension is coming from these great performances

That hard swallow from Murdoch might be the best half-second of acting in the whole movie. That's a look of primal fear.

@lolzlolz102

Ай бұрын

Where as the 2nd officer comes waltzing in looking like he's just smelt something.

@austin.draude

29 күн бұрын

@lolzlolz102 I think that's Chief Officer Wilde... I only remember him showing up twice in the movie, the other time is when Lightoller asks if they should start boarding the lifeboats. And both times he has that look 🤣🤣

I can not begin to describe how much it sucks to be the smartest one in the room (or ship in this case), the one person who understands how literally everything works and having to give the bad news that there is nothing that can be done to stop total failure. It is a feeling of helplessness that no one should ever feel.

@RinxPlatin666

Ай бұрын

you will feel that again in ur final hour !

@LucianDevine

Ай бұрын

And even worse when he knows the lifeboat situation. 2200 Souls on board, and enough life boats for 1200.

@johnmarshall9604

Ай бұрын

And when he knows that if they'd built the ship to his original design, she would have been able to limp the rest of the way to New York without too much trouble.

After being asked how long, Victor Garber bobbing his head up and down as he scans each bulkhead on the map, gives a great impression of doing the math of how long it will take. No calculators back then. It was a great moment of acting there.

@LucianDevine

Ай бұрын

Yup, doesn't respond instantly, but is going off of what they were told of the damage and how fast the water flooded the compartments. Even a rough estimate is enough to communicate the urgency that is going to be required to evacuate.

@misterwhipple2870

Ай бұрын

Thomas Andrews designed that ship with pencils, rulers, protractors, a drafting table and a slide rule. Not a computer on the face of the Earth. Still, he should have known better than to not order 48 extra boats and to not design the bulkheads to go all the way up. Ismay was leaning on him to save money. He should have told Ismay to go to Hell.

@michaelmacleod7051

Ай бұрын

​@@misterwhipple287048 extra boats onboard would have meant the Titanic would have sank with 48 boats still tied to the deck, if anything their presence would have slowed the evacuation down by getting in the way. With the manual Wellin Davits the crew didn't have time to launch all 20 boats they did have. For the raised bulkheads that's very true but that was a case of passenger and crew convenience moving easily through the ship versus safety. Before Titanic sank the whole maritime industry thought modern ships safety was already ample.

@HDreamer

Ай бұрын

@@misterwhipple2870 I thought by now everyone knew, that Titanic actually had more boats than regulations of the time required. Boats at the time were supposed to ferry you from a sinking ship to another one coming to help, not to take on everyone on board.

@misterwhipple2870

Ай бұрын

@@HDreamer Yawn, snore, zzzzzzzzzzzzzz . . . yessss, everyone knows that the Board of Trade only REQUIRED the Titanic to provide boats for 964 people and that White Star was so incredibly safety-minded and generous that they actually provided room for 1,170, BUTTTTTTT they had the room on board to carry more than 4,000 people! What kind of sh*t-head do you have to BE to have a gap like that?? If they had equipped the ship the way it was designed, they would have had 64 lifeboats instead of 16, and they would have had room for 4,096. All Ismay had to do was PAY FOR another 48 boats. They stacked like cereal bowls, and the davits were already designed to hold them. And as for that "ferry you" bullsh*t, what if the other ship was A THOUSAND MILES AWAY???? And what if your ship SINKS?????? Oops . . .

"Captain, the ship will sink." "And Rohan will answer!!"

@Igbear

Ай бұрын

"Where was Gondor when the Titanic sank?!"

It's so cool how they did this entire scene without any music in the background. It hard to imagine it being any better than it is.

I love how even though the Captain knows there are not enough life boats for everyone, and that he will thus die, he doesn't break down but instead composes himself to organise the evacuation. A true hero, and rest in peace Bernard Hill.

@gemnifan6045

Ай бұрын

Well I'm sure in real life they probably thought another ship could come and save everyone specially since they seen California near by

Funny to see the (recently) late Bernard Smith playing the captain when you've seen him as Yosser Hughes in the 1980's. Two characters that were poles (and decades) apart.

There is a stark contrast when comparing this scene to its equivalent in the first Titanic film - A Night to Remember. In the latter it is all calm, stiff upper lip as if he is delivering a lecture to his favourite students!!

@mattep74

Ай бұрын

A night to remember is better when it comes to how carpathia responded though

@throwback19841

Ай бұрын

@@mattep74 The captain of the Carpathia was a bloody legend. And the survivors of Titanic were very lucky the Marconi man on Carpathia was the kind of guy who'd check his work email before bed today.

“Not even God himself could sink this ship.” God - Hold my *iced* tea

@theozlander4629

Ай бұрын

Humanities hubris in one damn sentence. Imagine believing (as a man of faith to boot) that GOD HIMSELF can't send endless tonnes of iron straight to Davy Jones.

@jfangm

Ай бұрын

​@theozlander4629 Literally no one thought the ship was unsinkable.

@gemnifan6045

Ай бұрын

​@@jfangm well kinda after it's sister ship Olympic survived the crash with hawk they thought no other crash can be worse to sink it

I remember seeing this movie 9 times at the theaters when it came out in 1997 such a classic!

@Disciple_Of_Lerxst

Ай бұрын

I'm sending you an atomic wedgie for admitting that !

Where was Gondor?!?

It is a mathematical certainty. I love that line

Most chilling, best acted scene of this four-hour movie, and none of the main cast are even in it.

The only film my mom watch in theater with her assistant, her assistant couldn't understand a single English but she liked it. True great film.

@c.moriarty1178

Ай бұрын

As Hitchcock once said, a great movie can be followed and enjoyed even without sound

This and when E.J.Smith finds out that The Carpathia is 4 hours away. His expression of total loss and no-way-out say it all.

"And how many aboard, Mister Murdoch?" "2200 souls on board, sir." "Less than half of what I asked for."

That time Jack Bristo told Theoden they were all going to drown.

And below decks the black gang pulled up their sleaves and gave the ship 30 to 60 minutes of extra time.

" when can we get underway God damnit " you can imagine the real Bruce Ismay being just like this .

Thomas Andrews portrayed with a southern Irish accent, despite being brought up in Northern Ireland... terrible faux pas by the film-makers, akin to having a Bostonian speak with a southern drawl.

Dude who walks in at 1:25: "What did I miss!?"

@ultimateutsm6987

29 күн бұрын

Lol

This scene is absolutely brilliant. You can just feel the cold chill in the room as the full horror of their situation sinks in

''I believe you may get your headlines Mr. Ismay.''

I love how in the first half of the movie there are all these grand shots of the ship, and then about a minute before the iceberg appears we get a view from a mile+ up and the ship is just this tiny string of lights on the vast ocean.

Was a banging movie to see in theater. Still love this movie.

Keep in mind that in real life, this absolute legend of a Captain went down with the ship 🥲

Always thought that the last crewman that walks into the room had an expression on his face that told the story, even though he wasn’t present.

I vividly remember how the end of this very scene was when you have to take out the DVD and put in the 2nd disc to watch the rest of the movie. Right when this video stops there was a brief pause and then it was straight back to the main menu.

The Titanic could remain afloat if any two compartments or any three of the first five compartments were breached, but the designers played it safe and made it so that the Titanic could remain afloat with four of the first five compartments breached. By an evil irony, exactly five compartments were breached, no more and no less than what was needed for the disaster.

@diehardrvdfan22

Ай бұрын

Not to be a downer, but six compartments were breached. But, at the time that this scene would have taken place it would have been enough for them to realize their fate.

@michaelschiebel5141

Ай бұрын

The Titanic was build to remain afloat with the first four compartments breached. In fact, compartments 1 and 6 where breached a little bit, and 2 to 5 heavily. "build to remain afloat" means, when the ship stands still. An airplane is built not to fly when it stands still. An airplane flies only when it moves. If Titanic moves backwards, the water pressure pushes up the lower part of the ship like water ski. Moving the ship increases therefore the number of compartments that can be breached. Titanic would have stayed afloat as long as it had moved backwards at high speed. At the horizon where the lights of the Californian. It was a huge mistake not to move the ship backwards in this direction.

@peterkottke2570

Ай бұрын

The evil irony is that if they had rammed the iceberg head on and not tried to avoid it then the ship wouldn't have sank.

@jfangm

Ай бұрын

​@@peterkottke2570 That's not true.

@peterkottke2570

Ай бұрын

@@jfangm It would have been really bad for the those in the first and maybe second compartments and a lot more would have injured by the initial impact. But as long as the shockwave from the impact didn't cause the other compartments to flood then I'm not sure how it would have sunk.

Kinda sucks for that one dude that walked in AFTER everyone else found out the ship was sinking. You know the dude walked in and was like "I went out to get a peice of the iceberg. What'd I miss?"

When sobering reality comes crashing down…

When this movie was released on VHS, in two tapes, this was the final scene of Tape 1. Definitely a way to end the first chunk.

"Founder? Oh thank God, I thought you were gonna say, 'sink!'"

I just love how there's no music in this scene; completely silent. It's like they knew you don't even need music in a scene like this to understand the seriousness of the situation.

Good decision not to add any music

@se78836

Ай бұрын

Disagree. I think some Kanye would’ve taken this scene to the next level

Indeed, they made some of the most famous headlines in history.

This really happened, imagine being the captain of the largest ship in the world and being told by the man who built her she will sink. Smith would’ve known at least 1000 people will die on his watch. I can’t fathom how you can react to that.

@jfangm

Ай бұрын

He had no way of knowing how many people would die. Had the lifeboats been launched full, far fewer people would have died.

titan sub explorer to paying tourist: we've lost power and sinking, we will founder, sorry"

One of the best scenes in the film. Apparently if they just hit the iceberg dead on they'd probably not have sunk. The front of the ship would have let water in but not enough compartments to sink the ship.

Gradual fade out to 73 years later as a grainy, black and white image of a Titanic boiler slowly comes into view on a TV monitor on a research ship 2 miles above.

James Cameron is a legend!

My favorite scene

This scene reminds me also of the one in the Chernobyl series where the character played by Jared Harris is explaining to Gorbachev and the Soviet leadership the scale of the disaster and you see that moment where they're all processing it and realizing it was not only going to be worse, but much worse than what they imagined possible.

Hands down one of the bravest decisions to of been made, was when captain smith gave the order to abandon ship. Just have a second or two to think about his decision to not only abandon the ship but his own fate was sealed and doomed also. He knew he was going down with it. Being dead is easy,knowing you’re going to be dead soon, must be terrifying. 💔

When I was in theater, the film starts and my GF at that time : Honey isnt that wonderfull here watching the movie Me : NO ! that god damm ship sinks and I have to watch it for 3 hours Theater laughed and I sleeped alone that night!

"Titanic will founder" "Dark have my dreams been of late"

It's sheer certainty Mr. Izmay was in dismay.

I thought 'will' and 'founder'in the title were used as nouns, not verbs, so I expected someone to mention a written will relevant to the ship. 😂

SHE IS MADE OF IRON SIR!!

I still want a fan edit of just the history of the sinking. Edit out Jack and Rose subplot entirely. I think it can be done.

I think that James Cameron was very unfair in how he portrayed J. Bruce Ismay.

@ShaunHopkinsAVFC

Ай бұрын

The entirety of history seems to have done Ismay wrong. They needed a villain, and slimy William Randolph Hearst used his news empire to smear him due to an old grudge.

@misterwhipple2870

Ай бұрын

He was actually kinda nice to the a-hole.

@LucianDevine

Ай бұрын

All movies need a villain. The same was true of Cinderella Man. Max Baer was heartbroken over accidently killing his opponent in the ring, but the movie made him out to be a villain to make the victory more satisfying.

@bronwynschoer8039

Ай бұрын

He was telling a story. Cameron has expressed his regret about the portrayal of some of the people in the film, about how he feels they didn't always take into account that they were portraying not simply characters but real people. His biggest one he regrets is making Murdoch accidentally shoot someone and then shoot himself when there is not evidence he did that. Cameron has since said that one of his biggest changes would be to make that a random unamed character rather than Murdoch.

@nicholasmaude6906

Ай бұрын

@@bronwynschoer8039 He may've been telling a story but he was perpetrating the myth a J. Bruce Ismay. Remember much or the blackguarding of Ismay's character was due to William Randolph Hearst who had some sort of petty grudge against Ismay.

The boss be like "I spent my entire fortune to build this ship" "Maybe we can a make movie out of it to cover the lost ?"

Where was Gondor when Titanic start sinking ?

So many what ifs,, what if the lookout crew in the crow's nest had binoculars, what if the officer on duty had ordered the ship to slow down while the captain slept, Around 120 ice reports were made between April 1st and April 14th and their positions showed a dense icefield that was moving southward towards the shipping lanes.

@DominionSorcerer

Ай бұрын

Binoculars would have changed nothing, slowing the ship down any more probably wouldn't have changed much because it was already going pretty slowly and they went pretty far off course southwards to avoid icebergs.

A shame this scene didn't make it in the Titanic film.

But..but I’m in my pyjamas!! Most ungentlemanly

How did it come to this?

Thomas Andrews explains to captain Smith the damage and how much time until titanic sinks.

Time to switch to Tape 2

1:01 Me trying to figure out how much is in the bank account before the next paycheck three weeks from now 😭

Insert tape 2. If you know, you know.

Titanic made headlines just not the ones Mr. Ismay had in mind

Insert VHS Tape 2.

When the Captain suggest using pumps but Mr Andrews say that it will only give minutes only, sorry I'm not a ship engineer but what pump equipment is he referring to and what is it's purpose?

Everytime i'm seeing this movie the ship sinks!

Ope, time to switch to the second vhs...

No ocean has ever breached the lower hull or set foot inside the cabins.

Time to switch to tape #2.

Mr Ismay: “you must call for aid!” Captain Smith: “and who would come? The British? The Americans? No. We are not so lucky in our friends as you. We are alone.

Industrial civilization in 2024...

She's made in Ireland, sir... I assure you, she will.

And where was Gondor when the sea fell over the top of the bulkheads at E Deck from one to the next back and back?

'flounder'.

cpt. Schettino would find a way out

Giz a job skipper!

This is good dialogue. No quips that break the tension. No silly interjection or stupid phrase to lower the stakes. No. The boat is gonna sink and everybody is screwed. Brilliant. It’s hilarious you gotta point that out now because movies are so horribly written nowadays by hacks that try to shove woke messages into everything that make no sense whatsoever.

I didnt know Anthony Kiedis was in the movie

Go to 1:22:09 in the movie. Best scene in the whole movie

Where was Gondor when the Titanic sank?

"How much time?" "Hour. Two at the Most." "Gondor will Answer."

@Igbear

Ай бұрын

"Where was Gondor when the Titanic sank?!"

When can we get underway damn it? 😂

From this moment, no matter what we do, it will founder. But this ship can't sink! It's made of iron, sir. I assure you it can, and it will. It's a mathematical certainty.

When can we get underway dammit! 😂😂😂

@nathaniellampman2052

Ай бұрын

Ismay saves himself and humiliated later for saving himself rather than going down with the ship like thomas Andrew's and Captain Smith.

@blockmasterscott

Ай бұрын

@@nathaniellampman2052 I remember one of the crewmen looking at him in disdain as he got into that boat!

@srsr3439

Ай бұрын

interesting read regarding the real ismay en.wikipedia.org/wiki/J._Bruce_Ismay

@johnstjohn1987

Ай бұрын

​@blockmasterscott Yeah Murdoch looked at him like "Really?"