So nice to see the interviewer was the first one to ask this man how he is. A small thing but so significant

@DavidPogue

11 ай бұрын

Yes. I can't tell you how much that meant to me!

@aloud9738

11 ай бұрын

​@@DavidPoguethat's how we do it in Canada eh.

@jjdvideo

11 ай бұрын

Yes, as a journalist, Heather Hiscox was sensitive to the fact that David Pogue has been through a pretty frazzling experience. His CBS report last year was a light and fun, but getting on that doomed vessel was a little too close for comfort. It was nice to see some concern from one journalist to another. Most interviewers would go right to the Stockton stuff.

@elchatodeoro1

11 ай бұрын

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@dcarlin3

11 ай бұрын

Reinforcing stereotype that Canadians are polite!

Macgyver did what he did to get himself out of trouble, NOT to put himself in danger

@huse8165

11 ай бұрын

You are right! I mean the 1980's Macgyver. There are only one Macgyver.

This is what happens when you fire a safety consultant for doing his job.

@danielueblacker9118

11 ай бұрын

Lawsuit........ I feel so bad for the Family of those who died. Rest In Peace.

@carlyar5281

11 ай бұрын

Exactly. I have no legal background, but I do have 20 years of experience as an aerospace engineer, with experience in materials engineering, systems, engineering management, and airworthiness. I’m not sure the extensive waiver will cover lawsuits for willful negligence… but I’m not a lawyer.

The former employee (David Lochridge) didn’t quit, he was fired, given ten minutes to clear out his desk and vacate the premises after he raised safety concerns.

@DetectiveHouse

11 ай бұрын

The fact that this interviewer claims the former employee quit, when it’s evident he was fired (and he sued OceanGate for unfair dismissal) makes me mad at his either lazy or intentionally misguided reporting. It takes a simple google search!

@LittleAriel

11 ай бұрын

@@DetectiveHouse Yea, he does it several times, like the "NASA consultation" thing in the new segment he did on CBS. That's why it's good that at at least his job description is 'correspondent' and not 'reporter'. 🤷‍♀

But if James Cameron and other leaders in the sub industry HAD come out and objected to what OceanGate was doing, they just would have looked like they had sour grapes over a “new, innovative” machine instead of what they actually were - concerned over safety. It would have proved Stockton’s point that “this industry’s regulations have held back innovation” and it wouldn’t have stopped him from operating. Basically nothing could have prevented this because Stockton’s ego and desire to hurry this project up were a deadly combination.

@thedarkestfateful

11 ай бұрын

Exactly. James Cameron did say that he wanted to say something, but he hadn’t been invested in following up on that due to filming Avatar 2. Looks like he had been distracted by filming and just didn’t think something so horrible as an egotistic CEO dragging civilian passengers to their deaths would ever occur.

@hypercolour

11 ай бұрын

it also wasn't going to get much attention if he had randomly come out to announce it publicly anyway. it sounds like the diving community were WELL aware of oceangate, they knew it was a bad idea, and they had repeatedly communicated to the ceo that he was going to get somebody killed. just because "nobody spoke up" to news outlets doesn't mean those guys were ignoring it and waiting for the opportunity to get on the news.

@johnathonkelly5117

11 ай бұрын

A letter was written to him from the underwater community, Cameron was filming avatar 2.. don't put this on him

@valentincuc4101

11 ай бұрын

Lauren.. cameron dived to titanic, Mariana trench and nothing happened cause he is inteligent not like rush arogant clueless about deep sea research besides the titan sub should be made of steel and titan and maybe this tragedy shouldnt happen.

@jamescaley9942

11 ай бұрын

They had a moral obligation to speak out if that is what they thought. We all have 20:20 hindsight vision.

47 interviews and no one else asked how HE was? Wow, very telling of the media.

@nowirehangers2815

11 ай бұрын

Is it? Or telling of his own sense of self importance? He’s still alive. 5 others are not “ok”.

@WalterModel45

26 күн бұрын

​@@nowirehangers2815chill man He got to have ptsd

Previous passengers talked about cracking sounds coming from the hull. James Cameron gave an interview and said the hydrophone data indicates the crew heard the hull beginning to fail, dropped their ballast weights, began an ascent, and then the hull imploded.

@thiscorrosion900

11 ай бұрын

it's an ascent.

@backwoodsgirl6100

11 ай бұрын

How would anyone know that?

@venkataronithmugi1544

11 ай бұрын

@@backwoodsgirl6100That’s what I’m thinking too!

@riddim.

11 ай бұрын

​@backwoodsgirl6100 from data transmitted back to the mother ship, before the implosion of course.

@freddylong156

11 ай бұрын

@@backwoodsgirl6100the mothership was in communication until it wasnt and the motherships sonar would have picked up the ascent i would think.

In reference to James Cameron and others chiming in, with all due respect to Mr Pogue, all they can do is what they did. Voice their concerns. They couldn’t make Oceangate get certification or shut down the operation. Come on man…

@Devsfan28

11 ай бұрын

It’s a small community that Mr. Pogue is not part of. From my understanding and separate research they did in fact tried to warn Mr.Rush. In the end you can lead a horse to water but can’t make it drink.

@SHADOWxSN1PER

11 ай бұрын

​@@Devsfan28yeah, im pretty sure he got emails and everything. Im not sure if they were before 2018, but 2018 sounds like warning enough, it was way before this tragic incident occurred. Def disagreed with Pogue there.

@Devsfan28

11 ай бұрын

@@SHADOWxSN1PER Just sad how hubris has lead to 2 disasters separated only by 110 years. Nothing made by man is unsinkable. Nature will always have the last laugh. This is why I have little faith in humanity we continuously make the same mistakes. Dark yes but solely my opinion.

@SHADOWxSN1PER

11 ай бұрын

@@Devsfan28 i dont want to get too pessimistic about it, so I should note that an incident like this (specifically in submersible travel) hadn't happen in 35 years. We have regulations in place too, like the passenger vessel safety act 1993, Oceangate just launched in international waters in order to not be beholden to him. But youre 100%, the hubris of Stockton and Oceangate as a whole was foolish and reminiscent of the Titanic. But I like to think it was moreso Oceangate and Stockton being cocky and not most of humanity or the submersible community.

@WalterModel45

26 күн бұрын

​@@Devsfan28right There isnt national law that regulate this, and internarional waters doesnt have regulations

I don't understand why he was obsessed with composite fiber. If he built the same sub from titanium or steel it would never fail. What point was he trying to poove and was it all to save money? He had a glass window not even rated for that depth and was told the window could only go to 1300ft and possibly this is what broke first.. It's like if you were told that you cant jump out of a plane with an umbrella as a parashoot but you reinforce it with duct tape and give it a go. There should be a movie about this, Dumb and Dumber 3

@abinmmj

11 ай бұрын

It will make it very heavy, requiring a larger system to operate. I doubt something like that has been done before to accommodate 5 people. That are design challenges and of course tremendous cost.

@spookshow6999

11 ай бұрын

1,300 meters 4,000 feet which is still ludicrous.

@simony2801

11 ай бұрын

The Trieste went down to 30,000 feet in 1960, that’s 3 times deeper done 60 years ago. Stockton didn’t need to push the envelope in his design, it had already been done, better and safer than what Stockton had done.

@abinmmj

11 ай бұрын

@simony2801 it could only accommodate 2 people with it being very large as well. Rush wanted to take more people, and that wouldn't have worked either.

@rosscoe3005

11 ай бұрын

Right, so a billionaire inventor didn't want the design challenge or the cost and decided to go as cheap as possible and risk every ones life.. He valued money more than life!

Why would Jame Cameron go out of his way to try to stop the CEO for the remaining 3 summers when say company have make it cleared that they don't care to listen to any suggestions and advice over safety concerns with their sub during those 3 summers? Some people are so narcissistic that they'll only learned their lessons when they suffered the consequences.

James Cameron said that he could have pressed his concerns with Oceangate's sub but he assumed there were people smarter than him that knew what they were doing so he left it alone. This whole carbon fiber industry is new compared to steel as he says in interviews and he never believed in carbon fiber being a suitable material for a sub hull.

@wally7856

11 ай бұрын

The first thing you learn in operating any aquatic vessel is that you can't push a rope. That's what carbon fiber is, lots of tiny strong ropes held together by epoxy. That hull was in compression, the exact opposite of what carbon fiber is good at (tension).

@elihathaway6784

11 ай бұрын

@@wally7856 - Exactly, it just doesn't make sense!!!

Seeing that $30 video game controller as the steering wheel to the submarine should’ve been the biggest red flag that said “do not enter!”

@dunwoodie27

10 ай бұрын

The navy uses remote controls, Stockton DOES have a point with that. It’s much easier to steer. The navy uses it in submarines as well.

"The risk of dying gives meaning to living." I'm glad I got the inclination for risky behavior out of the way in my 20's. I did the scuba diving with sharks, the jumping out of planes, the climbing dangerous structures, etc. before I had a kid. When you have children, that's completely out to the question because the risk of dying is unacceptable when other lives depend on you and seeking risk is selfish and negligent behavior. Peace and safety to all. 🕊

I find it odd that Titan had a toilet but it didn't have a cockpit voice recorder. Maybe Walmart was out of cockpit voice recorders when they were shopping for parts ?

@CatholicForever1

11 ай бұрын

It would have likely been crushed even if they had one

@Rontheanchorman

11 ай бұрын

@@CatholicForever1 I don't think so. In 2011 the cockpit voice recorder and flight data recorder were recovered from Air France flight 447 after an exhausting two year search at the bottom of the Atlantic Ocean. The depth was 2.5 miles around the same depth as Titanic. There have only been a few instances where the flight recorders are so badly damaged that the data is unrecoverable. They are built to withstand almost anything. If Stockton Rush built it then yes you are probably right it wouldn't have survived the implosion. 😔

@CatholicForever1

11 ай бұрын

@davidc7388 I think that it's different if the recorder starts at the surface and floats slowly to the bottom (like the titanic, which wasn't crushed despite being on the bottom all these years). If it was in the submersible and it suddenly gave way that box would need to be very strong to withstand that implosion....plus, from what I'm hearing implosion is instantaneous so they would probably have not had to time to say anything. But I agree with you that the Titan seems to have been very badly designed. And if you are charging people $250,000 per ticket using corroded pipes is....unprofessional to say the VERY least

@Rontheanchorman

11 ай бұрын

@@CatholicForever1 true, an implosion scenario increases as the pressure outside becomes greater than the pressure inside, so if an object fills with water as it sinks like titanic did it's less likely to implode. Some reports say there was a loud bang on decent and then nothing and then there are rumours Titan was descending too fast, dropped its weights and was ascending to surface ? I think there's stuff they aren't telling us. Experts reckon the shape of the pressure vessel was wrong, (cylinder shaped instead of sphere shaped) and it was built of multiple materials, plexiglass, carbon fibre and titanium instead of just all titanium ?? I guess we will find out later, it's really interesting but also very sad 😢

Respect to the lady for being the onlynone asking him how he has been coping with the trajedy.

CEO talked a big game, but in the end he couldn't handle the pressure.

@TurningoffyourGaslights

11 ай бұрын

Caved into the pressure indeed. . And his Logitech controlled did sync that submersible.

It’s always dangerous to go with someone who thinks they know everything.

Leave it to the Canadian to ask how he is doing Nice

Some people call themselves adventurers but they are just simply reckless. True adventure lovers to me are people who increase their chances of having many more adventures.

@jeaniechampagne8831

11 ай бұрын

He was a dumb azz, literally.

I'm happy David Pogue wasn't a casualty. I'm bewildered by his annoyance of those who he feels are "only now" coming out of the woodwork to voice their views of the design. He knows they had voiced those concerns as far back as 2017 and 2018 and he knows that Stockton Rush smugly dismissed all of them and even made a point in one email exchange to say he took such "attacks" personally. Rush apparently had a God complex and didn't tolerate opposing views on his team. And he took four people with him.

He seemed proud building something that was radical yet cheapish and was getting away with it because he was successful going to the Titanic with this vessel. It was a matter of time before the laws of psychics catches up.

@VENOM-vd8hp

11 ай бұрын

I don't know how come the previous 2 expeditions with this sub were successful.. This was clearly not suitable for that depth nd for those pressures down 4000 m... Stockton was only ignoring the red flags in these months apart from fixing them.. The hull was the main red flag here

@WalterModel45

26 күн бұрын

​@@VENOM-vd8hpright The window was just for 1.400 desgined

James Cameron it's not only appearing now. He complain about that kind of materials in the hull before in private. But he didn't give a public warned because he think that PH and Rush would resolve the problem somehow.

If any other passenger-carrying vehicle had a roughly 1-in-20 catastrophic failure rate, it would never ever be approved for use. Consider that commercial aircraft must have thousands of test hours on them before the design can be approved for passenger service. Carbon fibre is known to be terrible in this application, and Stockon Rush knew that. He had experts in the field nearly *begging* him not to proceed. Thinking "outside the box" is a beautiful thing for many many undertakings. But in the case of safety-critical systems, "the box" was forged over generations of bloody and horrifying experience...

@babelfishdude

11 ай бұрын

Space shuttle?

@klocke-hx3xl

10 ай бұрын

Carbon fiber is not known to be terrible in this application. You're simply parroting what others on social media are parroting.

@WalterModel45

26 күн бұрын

​@@babelfishdude the program was stopped twice

@WalterModel45

26 күн бұрын

​@@klocke-hx3xlno Literaly it is Carbon fiber is good for replace steel in estructures that arent under big pressure.

She's been top-notch throughout all her interviews and reporting on this Titan implosion. Evidently, Canada has more real journalists than here in the states.

To be fair multiple people for years had voiced their concerns directly to the CEO, even JUST before the incident. He then referred to the kid and his friend as “the uninformed”. Just bc people didn’t run to media outlets or social media to say “hey this Rush guy might be a dangerous scum bag” doesn’t mean it didn’t happen at all and/or that these people are just looking for some form of attention.

Very kind interviewer

@aloud9738

11 ай бұрын

W Canada.

Skydiving is a silly example. Skydiving is well developed sport, you can call it adrenalin sport, you can find it scary but the technology behind it is super advanced and mainly it's certified and not experimental. Every skydiver has to have a licence and present it before boarding the plane. Those are not people who jump out of a plane in a DIY suit.

@denizrenomusic

11 ай бұрын

It just speaks volumes about these "journalists", when they attempt to speak on something they know zero about. It's damaging and disrespectful to the sport. Unfortunately most journalism these days is really vulturism ... they prey on stories people are interested in and offer redundant haphazard, ignorant commentary.

@Styxswimmer

11 ай бұрын

@denizrenomusic "speaking about a topic they know zero about". That's exactly why politicians shouldn't be able to regulate guns. Most politicians know nothing about them. Politicians shouldn't be allowed to regulate things they know nothing about. Maybe have an agency of specialists who do know about it make recommendations, but politicians have way too much power.

@WalterModel45

26 күн бұрын

Facts Skydiving got thousends and thousends of jumps without problems Rate lf accidents is very low.

It was a Rush job.

@rawx485

11 ай бұрын

Well done.

@strangermaniacos686

11 ай бұрын

A Russian job you mean ?

@WalterModel45

26 күн бұрын

Well deep played.

I was thinking of Mt. Everest yesterday trying to understand people drawn to such high risk. It still baffles me.

@aaronlane8276

11 ай бұрын

Mt. Everest is literally a frozen graveyard 🪦 landfill, and sewer. I’m not going anywhere near it.

@brianglade848

11 ай бұрын

Wat?

@aaronlane8276

11 ай бұрын

@@brianglade848 I’m not kidding you. Mt. Everest has so many corpses on it people use them as landmarks when navigating up the mountain.

@57Jimmy

11 ай бұрын

Exactly. Just go for a walk through a local cemetery. You will pass just as many who didn’t make it on Everest. Basically Everest is nothing more than a garbage dump. I can fly on a low budget airline at 35000’ likely still with garbage between the seats from previous adventurers, free peanuts if you look hard enough, and its STILL the safest way to get even higher than Everest!😂

@brianglade848

11 ай бұрын

@@aaronlane8276 that's true, ive

He seemed very cavalier of safety. Best to stay away from attitudes like that.

Basically, the guy had no idea what he was doing. To say “as long as it doesn’t collapse, everything else can fail,” is extraordinarily short sighted and foolish. It shows no deep insight into deep diving and its dangers. It shows someone interested in being a new Musk, but without the ability and the foresight. Cutting corners to be an outlier in that field is reckless manslaughter

@jeaniechampagne8831

11 ай бұрын

Premeditated. He knew it was a flop, reason for firing his safety man. He invited his passengers, doubt any one of them called him up and asked hey can I go with you. He knew it wasn't safe. And he wouldn't refund fees when he cancelled a dive.

@WalterModel45

26 күн бұрын

Facts Actually Cameron said that when they went down 33 times because the Titanic, they were very sure about the subs, but were worried because the place. Wires, rocks, steel....

I think I have a problem with Mr Rush almost bolstering his views on regulations then finding out he did try to get the vessel registered in the past but was refused any certification.

If you needed to whip up a submarine by tonight to save your old army buddy from a drug cartel, then by all means MacGyver it. But if you are building something to repeatedly go down carrying passengers, don’t cobble it together with unsuitable materials (carbon fibre) and stuff you got at your local Walmart!

OceanFate....A Rush of Implosive Adventure

As a longtime fan of the original MacGyver series and Richard Dean Anderson, I clicked on this link specifically to come here and say the video title is an insult to the fictional character MacGyver. What MacGyver did *saved* lives... His engineering was solid and didn't take innocent lives needlessly... damn sure not after first making them pay a quarter million dollars each! (Also, the fact that MacGyver was fiction is precisely *why* his engineering always worked... His tricks were never meant to be tested out in real life with real life consequences.)

@SofaKingShit

11 ай бұрын

Also irrelevant to compare the risks to skydiving. A skydiving accident won't cost millions of dollars and require other people to place themselves at some level of risk.

@the_undead

11 ай бұрын

I think that's kind of the point though, this is a company that was trying to MacGyver things, but macgyvering things only really works when you have a bunch of really talented engineers, or in fiction, and neither of those were the case for this company

David Pogue is right all these post interviews/attention and nobody has asked how he’s feeling. Haha Dodging a bullet and nobody could care less 😪 .. Glad you doin good Mr. Pogue 💪🤝

When they declined to certify it they should've shut it down immediately. Also after the engineer reported it. They are responsible also. This should have never been in the water.

They could've use Google to see the titanic and they had to get into a washing machine controlled by a Xbox controller

@catholicshiksa

11 ай бұрын

Washing machine 🤣🤣🤣

Stockton Rush seemed like a drugstore cowboy to me. Hint: Cowboys are dangerous because safety is not foremost in their line of delusional thinking that nobody knows anything but them.

@jeaniechampagne8831

11 ай бұрын

I think so. Lunatics.

Interviewer so Canadian - in a wonderful way. .... "How are YOU feeling?" - the first time in 47 interviews that he was asked about himself, i.e. how he was bearing up.

David Pogue needs to add ‘Submersibles for Dummies’ to his collection, he was obviously fooled by the used car salesman of the deep.

@mark6302

11 ай бұрын

he wrote those books behind him

It's like they made it out of a mini-van and Playstation parts.

They say he's a nice guy, but nice guys don't led people to their deaths because of their own hubris.

@thedarkestfateful

11 ай бұрын

Or willingly take $250k/person after knowingly skimping corners and disregarding people’s safety.

@juliemoo88

11 ай бұрын

“Nice” isn’t good enough when you’re dealing with risk, and this was extreme risk. Give me “competent“ any time.

@jeaniechampagne8831

11 ай бұрын

Obviously, they didn't know him at all.

Orcas: whew thank god noone pointed fingers at us this time ✌️🙏🐳

IMO Stockton knew the sub was unsafe. He worked with the materials before in airplanes. He knew that even in airplanes the material has a limit on lifetime. It can only be used safely for so many flight hours. I think that’s why he aborted so many “missions” he could take people out put them in the turd dip it in the water then claim petty things that should be checked before even launching like computer issues, or weather, Etc. That way he could still take peoples money without further deterioration to the material. No one should be able to dive in a sub that has had no safety certificate or testing from a 3rd party. Stockton knew his DIY sun would t pass the safety regulations he saw it as some kind of insult to him. He quoted in a message to someone else that there hadn’t been any accidents in 35yrs. But that was because they were all certified!

@AlejandroRasmussen7

11 ай бұрын

Claiming 35 yrs with no accidents while omitting that those vessels where certified and yours wasnt was pretty manipulative, searching just a few vids on this guy you can see this pattern of him saying what people wanted to hear and doing otherwise

@freddylong156

11 ай бұрын

@@AlejandroRasmussen7thats why he wanted young individuals that he could inspire rather than 50 year old white men that would question his dangerous practices. This dude is as arrogant as they come from that area of the states.

@AtomicElectronCo

11 ай бұрын

That's typical in such driven men, isn't it? Sadly, they blunt their own achievements by not actually looking at the problems to overcome (such as criticism of this or that safety issue) but take it personally....."You're not supporting the team! You're setting us up to fail!" and such. The IRONY here of the Titan disaster compared to the Titanic disaster cannot be avoided!

@CatholicForever1

11 ай бұрын

You would think if the mission was cancelled because of problems with the sub he would refund the money. Did he do that?

@Jon_Flys_RC

11 ай бұрын

@@CatholicForever1 it would be interesting to see the finer print of the contract of the trip and what any statements on refunds may be. I’ve often wondered the same thing if they were going out with 3 paying passengers and 5 known chances of getting to the bottom or 15 passengers who each got one shot in groups of 3 and if your dive hit the water that was it and it didn’t matter if it was success or failure you went so it’s over. Years ago I worked for a company that offered whale watching in addition to other passenger vessel tours. They operated on the basis of if you see one whale, the trip was a success, if you saw no whales you got a voucher for a return trip but no refund, if they never left the dock they would issue refunds. They would go out in some hellacious weather where there was no chance they were ever going to see a whale, but now they had your money and the return rate on vouchers was really low, around 10% so one way or another they got your money and did a good job making sure they could hang onto it.

I agree with Stockton Rush when he stated "that there are a lot of rules out there that don't make engineering sense to me" but my agreeing with him probably has something to do with the fact that I'm a can-jockey at the local grocery store and know absolutely NOTHING about engineering. He and his passengers would have benefitted mightily from his leaving this critical part of his submersibles design to the people who actually know a thing or two about deep-water exploration!

I can't believe this guy witnessed first hand the buffoonery of Rush and still agreed to go down in his "sub."

Rush would not have passed the psychological testing to become an astronaut.

I'd say David's laughing was also a form of disbelief that Stockton was so blunt and not even serious about it. I'd laugh too like that if he said it was macgyvered

Regardless of the waiver they signed…they ignored safety regs! That should be criminal.

@carlyar5281

11 ай бұрын

With the well documented disregard for safety and refusal to test and certify, I wonder if that opens the company to legal liability and wilful negligence. I’m sure there will be a lot of lawyers making money off of this.

@jeaniechampagne8831

11 ай бұрын

It might be. Canada and coast guard are looking into that. I'll bet the waiver had none of what we are now speaking of in it.

Surely David has a boss who brought the Ocean Gate story to him in the first place. That person needs to be scrutinised for putting David in that position. I know hindsight is a wonderful thing but even just rudimentary research would have shown that what Ocean Gate were doing was dangerous. I’d be absolutely furious if I were David.

@DavidPogue

11 ай бұрын

Actually, I BEGGED to get this gig! "Rudimentary research would have shown?" No. I can assure you that 1 year ago, NONE of this stuff was out there, NOBODY was saying that the sub was unsafe. Of COURSE we researched it!

@stephenbusby424

11 ай бұрын

@@DavidPogueMy apologies then David, I shouldn’t have presumed anything about how that story was set up. I think a better way to put it would be that I’d be angry about not being told the true extent of the risks Ocean Gate were taking?

@veronicael8919

11 ай бұрын

​@@DavidPoguethanks for the insight. Still, at the end of the day, we're all furious on how Rush put you in such dangerous situation. I will never forget your expression when he showed you the $30 game controller in that documentary, though. That was priceless.

@stephenbusby424

11 ай бұрын

@@DavidPogue David, the more I’ve thought about your response, the more I want to change my original reply. Firstly, I want to preface this by saying I don’t mean to insult you or your team, and I’m honestly very happy you are safe and well. I just don’t think your team could have carried out sufficient research. Concerns around the use of composite carbon fibre as an external pressure vessel pre-dated your dive to the Titanic. The top names in the industry, Rob McCallum, Robert Ballard, Victor Vescovo and James Cameron are on record as saying they wouldn’t have gotten into Titan under any circumstances. Did anyone from your team approach them for their opinion before you dived? Did you know that the deep sea community had almost unanimously agreed that a hull consisting of a carbon fibre tube, capped at each end with titanium was not proven safe for repeated dives to the Titanic? Were you aware that laminated carbon fibre can weaken with repeated pressure cycles? I appreciate the letter of concern sent to Ocean Gate in 2018 may have not been available to you, but if you had spoken to any of the experts who signed that letter, it’s hard to imagine you would have taken such a risk. I’ve no doubt Ocean Gate didn’t share everything with you, but my point is, this disaster wasn’t at all surprising to experts in this field. It follows that if you had canvassed opinion on Titan, it’s hard to imagine that you would have willingly gone on the trip. I don’t mean for this to sound callous David so I apologise if it sounds that way, but you are alive today due to luck. Luck that your expedition wasn’t the one where catastrophe struck. Again, I’m incredibly grateful you are safe and well and that your loved ones still have you in their lives. I truly hope you are able to make sense of the complex feelings you must have about Ocean Gate. I just believe it was reckless of your news station to sign off on your dive. I hope they will look into what happened and put safeguards in place to protect their journalists.

James Cameron objected the entire dna of that make design up even telling his freind in the sub it’s unsafe, this was during his own expedition, thank god the last company listened to him.

Sad thing is the game controller is probably more advanced than what they used in the apollo program

Unbelievable. If someone asked 250 thousand from me for a ticket and then showed me how it's made and controlled I'd run the other way and report their insanity to everyone.

It worked flawlessly

Ocean gate was playing Russian roulette. Plain and simple

I liked this guy until he said the employee "QUIT" in 2018 over safety issues. NO, he got FIRED for voicing the fact that using Composite Materials for Submersible Hulls was dangerous (What James Cameron said when these Composite Hulls were first introduced several decades ago)

Awesome interview

Great interview

I love how David’s calling him out and laughing at his responses at moments about the safety concerns.

@mindfulawareness1

11 ай бұрын

Come on!

Much is made of items such as pipes being used as ballast. That is not a factor that affects safety. The use of a X-box controller is questionable, but it takes considerable expenditure to custom design and manufacture an item to military standards, which is not feasible in this instance. Stockton Rush used readily available parts and took advantage of the plexiglass being inherently much stronger than its official rating without really knowing its performance characteristics. It is likely that none of these factors proved fatal. The flaw was in the design of the hull itself, not its cylindrical shape, but the materials that comprised it and the manner in which they were joined together. The assembly was an accident waiting to happen.

The idiocy was making the pressure hull out of carbon fiber, and not interweaved carbon fiber at that, single grain!

A terrible tragedy..i feel sorry for the families of the titan, people need to take in consideration that the ocean is no joke it is indeed a scary place especially 12,000ft below the surface..but more power to the future of exploration..God-Speed

Stockton Rush liked to live dangerously! Went out like a G

@swimgirl24

11 ай бұрын

A G doesn’t take down innocent civilians with him. The deaths of the 4 other people on board is nothing short of homicide.

A flock of planes, ships, submersibles that must abide by a certain set of regulations, and at the taxpayers expense, rescuing a businessman who doesn't have to adhere to any regulations doesn't add up to me.

Just watching the facial and laughing expression of David during his interview with Stockton Rush, tells a lot as if David himself could tell that this is not going to work as what you blubbering about Stockton.....

3:33 - "There were a lot of rules out there that didn't make engineering sense to me" - Keyword in that sentence: "ME"

47 interviews, and nobody asked how David Pogue was? Wow. I am so glad this news announcer finally brought some empathy and decency to the table. 😢

@walkabout123

11 ай бұрын

47 interviews, not 14

@lydian.773

11 ай бұрын

@@walkabout123 Thanks.

They said everything they could possibly say in 2018…What more did you want them to do?

@DavidPogue

11 ай бұрын

My point is that once the sub started making successful dives to Titanic depths (20 of them), the naysayers quieted down. It certainly seemed that Rush was right... until he wasn't.

@iamthenews5624

11 ай бұрын

@DavidPogue Respectfully, the Titan did not make 20 successful dives to the Titanic

@DavidPogue

11 ай бұрын

@@iamthenews5624 Correct. It made 20 successful dives to Titanic *depth*, including test dives and dives where it could not find the wreck.

@iamthenews5624

11 ай бұрын

@@DavidPogue Point understood. Rush proved that his “unconventional experiment” was an imperfect working submersible-in-progress. I feel as if they had their hands-tied, because legally Rush could say and do as he pleased, because the Titan was deep diving into “International Waters.”

3 dives away…close encounter indeed. I hope the survival guilt passes for this journalist. Life has a plan not for us to understand 🙏

I would honestly rather just go to the Titanic museum in Pigeon Forge, Tennessee, than do something like this. It’s definitely a lot cheaper too.

@charlesburgoyne-probyn6044

11 ай бұрын

Safer

Rest easy Titan crew

David Pogue is awesome, I've always loved his reporting. Fun party trick: Close your eyes and he becomes Anderson Cooper 🙃.. but really, just commenting to point out that the man apparently really loves reading about Mac operating systems!

@DavidPogue

11 ай бұрын

Actually, those books in the background are the ones I've WRITTEN, not READ! :)

@lobstertexas

11 ай бұрын

@@DavidPogue Haha - so, shortly after posting that, I conferred with my circle of fellow game show dorks and someone immediately pointed out that you are, in fact, a Mac journalist and that you likely wrote many of the books pictured behind you... thereby tempting me into the rabbit hole of David Pogue trivia for the next half hour, as clearly my fandom was only limited to my exposure of you from your pieces on CBS Sunday Morning. The deep dive (too soon? 😇) did not disappoint -- "Take Back the Beep" is a phenomenal work of art. (Flattered you responded, and my apologies for not knowing about your incredibly large collection of writings!)

@DavidPogue

11 ай бұрын

@@lobstertexas LOL!!! Well, it feels good to be rabbit-holed! Thanks for getting back to me

"Once you are certain the pressure vessel won't fail. Everything else can fail." That was the problem. Nobody was certain it wouldn't fail and people suspected it would. And it did fail.

no david people told rush what he was doing is dangerous he just did not listen

“Mac Guyver” was playin PacMan with his joystick down there. I’m sure he read “Game Over” rite before the Sonic boom.

Good interview. I like this David Pogue. He reminds me of the writer John McPhee.

His collection of Dummies books is impressive

Will forever be known as..........Stockton Crush!

@jeaniechampagne8831

11 ай бұрын

And someone else added OceanFate.

Stockton Rush had some deep seated issues.

Shady: the craft isn't certified, but the waiver is. Waiver far from valid. Dirty dealing.

@jeaniechampagne8831

11 ай бұрын

He was a liar.

Could someone highlight the actual rescue mission that found the debris. It's a French company but no one has given them credit

Is it just me who's noticed the numerous Mac for Dummies books in the background including a book for iPhone 5, iPad, Dreamweaver, Mac OS, ?????? 😃 Davids been everywhere recently and its crazy how nobodys asked him if he's OK which to be fair he seemed alright in all of his interviews lol

I made a car out of spaghetti.. My wife never believed it until i drove pasta

I would go the chance of seeing the titanic is just amazing I grew up watching that movie it’s just an unbelievable story

@danteanderson9052

11 ай бұрын

Then go.

@thiscorrosion900

11 ай бұрын

I wouldn't. It's been well documented already, no reason to risk one's life. It's spectacularly dangerous no matter what craft it is. If it were up at 500 ft. or 1000 ft, it wouldn't be as huge of a risk.

@cassie6583

11 ай бұрын

It's a made up story. Fiction. Capiche..!!!!!!

@McLarenMercedes

11 ай бұрын

The main characters of that movie are *fictional*

He said he was a outlier. Now he's out lying on the floor by the titanic.

So many For Dummies books. I wonder why.

@DavidPogue

11 ай бұрын

I wrote them. :) Those are all the international translations on those shelves.

“Some people are adventurous” well then pay for your own search and rescue team then

@rawx485

11 ай бұрын

Oh.... he paid. Edit: the dead rich guy I mean

calling it MacGyver-ing is pure insult of MacGyver-ing.

I wounder why the company did towed out Titan to drop zone in rough weather, but in this video its onboard the ship HORIZON ARCTIC? And it was so many time they have to cancelled launch for many reasons. Great content.

Would interpol have been able to intervene?

Millionaires grieving their own vanity..

David, how dare you to put this on Cameron. It wasn’t his responsibility to babysit Rush, who would not have listened anyway. Cameron designed his own submersible with the help of a co-designer and it took them seven years to complete it. He went solo to the deepest part of the Mariana Trench which is the challenger deep. But his submersible was a single seater and his risk didn’t include other people.

The moment they inform you needed to be bolted in would be the time you give it a miss.

With all due respect, and as someone who is clueless about submersibles the last person to object was not back on 2019, it was this year when the father rejected the offer of boarding/diving in that thing outlining safety concerns alerted to by his son. It's ok, this now famous journalist is probably suffering right now from pts so he must be hallucinating when he says that people only now have come out saying that they warned him. Rush himself is captured multiple times on video saying he'd been warned during this journalist's own interview with Rush (e.g. when he said the industry opposes his design and is an outcast within his own industry). When the letter was written to him on behalf of those who follow submersible safety rules and begged him to stop he didn't. This alone means that the warning effectively stands (time doesn't change this) until the behaviour is changed which would mean certification. Otherwise he would have allowed the necessary inspections to take place which they begged him to in that same letter and outlined the logical and humane reasons as to why. Do warnings about an impending danger necessarily lose their value when they cease? Perhaps, to the perpetrator it's a green light to continue behaviour. This can feed on the delusion. Does that mean that the warning wasn't made? Certainly, the warning was made.

The waiver doesn't matter if there was negligence.

This is the definition and prime example of just because you can. doesnt mean you should

Watch the videos of James Cameron, whose decades long efforts to develop his own DSV lead to his exploration of the challenger deep. A few takeaways. Rush said that he was not making any money on the endeavor. In that interview, (twice) I heard Rush say he spent every penny on fuel for that expedition. I think money was Rush’s Achilles tendon. A limited cash flow may have lead directly to the demise of these people. Rush was pulling in enough cash to fund his expeditions. Rush was short on money. Cash. He needed a stark cash infusion. I don’t believe he had the funds to cover R&D and on these new toys.

Your wouldn’t fly to space in a home made rocket…

No one talks about they tried to drop ballast before communication stopped

@jeaniechampagne8831

11 ай бұрын

I've seen / read it somewhere. They were on their way up. Cameron said there would have an alarm, well maybe. He thinks they knew they had a problem. That poor kid.