I'm drawn to the Citizen. I don't want a delicate watch. I want a solid, no-nonsense watch, everyday watch, for work.

@whereRbearsTeeth

2 ай бұрын

😂

Great review and probably the first I’ve seen preferring the prx after a detailed comparison. Kudos for the great work!

I have the PRX ice blue and has a superb value.

@whereRbearsTeeth

2 ай бұрын

Has the plastic movement broke yet lol?

@Paul_Runkles

2 ай бұрын

No seriously…I didn’t get one because of the plastic parts. I still want one though. 😬

Money no object, probably the titanium Twelve. If it was the steel, it would be a closer call between that and the PRX. I do love the PRX as well though. The Tsuyosa is one hell of a bargain and will be a big summer hit now that it's more widely available. Thanks for the brief, but detailed comparison. I particularly enjoyed the discussion on the measurements/fit and bracelets.

@OracleTimeTV

Жыл бұрын

Thanks Sean, glad it was helpful. The Citizen really does offer some incredible value.

For me it's the PRX the winner... Nice video

Very Nice. I’d go PRX all the way. While I do like the light blue I’d probably go with a different color because I like standing out from the crowd. I don’t want the same popular color.

Citizen def. doesn't wear the biggest, it wears smaller than the PRX. Sold the PRX because it was too big for my wrist, Citizen fits like a charm!

The Christopher Ward Twelve (Ti) is a master timepiece.

@Rover-gg8jj

Жыл бұрын

Christopher Who?

Personally, it’s less about the $500 difference and more about the fit. I don’t think anyone would doubt that the PRX is simply just less refined than the CW 12 with its larger clunky/chunky look, making it a bit more difficult to wear with those of us who have smaller wrists. Since the CW 12 is on back order anyway, with a little bit of patience once could wait to pick it up pre-owned for $900-$1000, closing that price gap a bit.

@MrLeSa95

Жыл бұрын

PRX case and bracelet look much better than CW 🤷‍♂️

@sanjay3415

Жыл бұрын

What about the 35mm PRX? I think that solves the problem

@bking82

Жыл бұрын

Prx has History, spacial 35 mm, ho is CW ahahaha maybe you need to check Michael Herblin nice price ,nice quality + Brand

@nathancarter5299

Жыл бұрын

The PRX is whack. I know it’s a remake, but the original was a failed attempt at a RO clone. Looks cheap AF to me. CW12 wins very easily.

@jwillwork3683

Жыл бұрын

@@MrLeSa95 I think the prx is just ok, seen it in person at AD for second time yesterday, can afford it but I just don't want it. The hype doesn't help, I hat e whatever is popular usually.

Could you not get the Christopher Ward 12 in steel ice blue for comparison?

I have a six inch wrist and the 40 prx is too big for me. Actually the tsuyoba fits great and I got the yellow one. I this it fits much better than the PRX. The PRX is really flat and hung off the side of my wrist. The tsuyoba doesn't overhang my wrist and actually fits perfectly.

@jovanierodriguez2949

8 ай бұрын

TRY Tissot gentlemen watch

@amandoreyes6780

7 ай бұрын

Thank you. I have a 6.5" ish wrist, and it is difficult to find input from a sub 7" wrist.

@genjermaine

7 ай бұрын

​​​​@@christga100 Dude exactly the same with me. Ended up with the new tsuyosa blue, super satisfied with it.

@scottlee6809

6 ай бұрын

I had a chance to try both Tsuyosa and the PRX side by side. My wrist is on the slimmer side and Tsuyosa definitely fits me better. The PRX's bracelet is higher quality but the fitment of Tsuyosa won me over. Plus, the "tiffany blue" of Tsuyosa looks better in person and got the wife approval factor.

I just bought the gold 40mm PRX and it's a beauty. I love the retro classic look and that it echoes the AP. Why not? I don't wear fakes and it isn't an homage as it is actually based on Tissot's own 1970s design. The integrated bracelet is well-made and very comfortable on the wrist. I prefer the idea of an in-house movement in the Tissot (albeit from Swatch) and the longer power reserve is handy if you alternate your watches. The gold is very warm visually and makes a change from the usual stainless steel and leather or rubber straps on many non-precious metal watches. At the price point, it is considerably less than the CW, making adding to a collection more reasonable.

@tatetv7729

3 ай бұрын

After the gold one, what’s your favourite colour dial.

@kevinleighuk

3 ай бұрын

@@tatetv7729 the light blue looks nice.

@whereRbearsTeeth

2 ай бұрын

😂😂

Very good comparison 🍻

@OracleTimeTV

Жыл бұрын

Thanks Alex 🍺

Both design, while beautiful, certainly takes inspiration from a number of other luxury sports watches. However, the PRX is the better watch. Older more establish brand, more advance movement with modified barrel housing, thinner main spring, 80 hour reserve, Polymer escapement and fork, Patented Nivachron balance spring, movement made of ARCAP, an alloy of copper, nickel and zinc (at least in part) from similar a material. Giving it antimagnetic properties. It is lower price is more appealing due to the higher brand perception and technology advantages of the movement. I also own a Tissot COSC certified watch and the PRX is very accurate when compared.

@Ae073001

Жыл бұрын

If referring to the CW, because the post didn't specifdnt, but I dont know if I can agree that the PRX is the better watch. I can't even definitively say it has a better movement since the SW300 is COSC certified and runs at 28800 vph. The CW definitively has the more refined case, better finishing, is lighter due to Titanium, the dial has more dimensionality with a wonderful fume coloring. Why again is a PRX a better watch? It may be preferred, especially because of cost, but better?

@kbarnbrook4993

11 ай бұрын

​​@@Ae073001I have heard from other reviews that the bracelet on the PRX is rather tinny compared with the CW, which feels more refined and luxurious.

@undercovermc

6 ай бұрын

Most people who have bought or reviewed both prefer the CW. The pros for it trump the pros you've listed for the PRX. I also sense that you're very biased towards Tissot. A lot of people with lower budgets confuse "better value for money" with a "better product". An affordable Android phone with a great camera may be better value for money than the Samsung Galaxy S24 Ultra, but it isn't an objectively better phone. Anyway, I don't think it's fair to compare the PRX and the CW Twelve due to the price difference

the Tudor Royal is higher quality and can be bought for around the price of the CH Ward

0:50 the CW hqs the applied logo made of crosses and squares but it DOESN'T line up with the crosses and squares on the dial texture?!?!

I personally prefer the PRX. the cristopher ward dial just feels so busy

If i had to chose i would go fot the CW, but not because i think that its "better" than PRX in any way, HOWEVER the prx is just overall too chunky. The case and bracelet tapers too little making it look more like a bracelet than an actual watch. Also my subjective opinion is that prx has a wayy too small dial compared to the case making it look more like a toilet seat than a watch. Hopefully next gen prx will get better

I’ve worn the PRX. I own the citizen because it wears better in my smaller wrist….the angled lugs on the Tissot make it wear larger and give it the flying saucer effect….

@davidkendall1614

11 ай бұрын

There is a 35mm PRX too

Please, dump the music in the background or at least take it down a couple of notches.... Otherwise thx for an entertaining video!

Correction, the lig to lug is bigger in the PRX vs the citizen.

The titanium 12 uses an SW300-1 which is COSC certified. The stainless steel "the Twelve" uses an SW200-1 which is not COSC certified. As you should know the specification for COSC certification is -4/+6 seconds per day and definitely not the +/- 12 seconds your own slides show. I find the CW to be overwrought and so I'd go for the dark blue PRX. Sorry Citizen but a cyclops is never a good idea.

@OracleTimeTV

Жыл бұрын

Hey Mark, yes you're right. As stated at the beginning of the review, although we have the titanium version we're pretending we have the steel, for a more like-for-like comparison.

Мне нравится Citizen но я абсолютно уверен что цена во много раз завышена. тут нет ничего чтобы стоить 450 долларов которые Citizen спрашивает на своём сайте. я думаю тут даже нет ничего что могло бы стоить 150 долларов. хотя сами часы красивые

I was toying with the idea of the Tsuyosa as a less expensive alternative to the PRX. But the more I thought about it, the more I came to view these integrated bracelet designs as being all about the bracelet. And on that count, the Citizen falls flat whereas the Tissot shines. I just ordered an Ice Blue PRX. I like the Twelve very much. Especially that dial. BUT, it costs twice as much as the PRX and I would have to cough up another $200 or so to pay duty. Just not worth it for me. CW needs local representation…as a really like one of their GMTs.

@matyasd007

11 ай бұрын

The bracelet and the wearing experience is waay more comfortable than the PRX. The PrX is super chunky and does not sit well on my wrist due to those end links. The bracelet and the clasp is overrated by watch nerds. No micro-adjustments, and terrible to operate that butterfly clasp.

@davidkendall1614

11 ай бұрын

@@matyasd007 I assume you are referencing the Citizen, not the CW? The one that the reviewer refers to as being “more chunky”? The Citizen bracelet can hardly be considered a quality piece. Rattlely, pressed clasp President wannabe. The style and finishing hardly suits the case. Guess I am a watch nerd, because the PRX looked and felt a helluva lot better to me. But whatever you like. However, if the 40mm is too “chunky” for a small man, there is a 35mm option.

It’s the CW twelve for me - but then I own one so I’m biased

@OracleTimeTV

Ай бұрын

A brilliant piece!

Цена гражданина, выигрывает. Более дорогие конкуренты, конечно, лучше.

12

what is your wrist size ?

@OracleTimeTV

10 ай бұрын

17cm in diameter.

PrX easily best value for money and it was also the first to revive the style back, so basically other two are copycats.

The Tsuyosa is at least one league below. I own a PRX and a Tsuyosa and I barely wear the Citizen. The bracelett feels cheap in comparison and the clasp is even worse. It´s still a nice watch but I fell out of love with it

@Goxilla

8 ай бұрын

I hope there will be an after market option at some point. I´m also considering to remove the cyclops @@christga100

Not really a fair comparison. If you ignore price / value, the CW 12 is by far the better watch, at least in terms of quality and finishing.

@samuelkessler8659

Жыл бұрын

But then the GP Laureato and Bulgari Finissimo it took half its design from are even better quality... Can't ignore price on this.

Always the Twelve

@Rover-gg8jj

Жыл бұрын

Christopher Who?

@thepit2013

Жыл бұрын

@@Rover-gg8jj NPC behavior

@Rover-gg8jj

Жыл бұрын

@@thepit2013 NPC behavior is when u think "the twelve" is something special.

@thepit2013

Жыл бұрын

@@Rover-gg8jj for the price it is, the finishing and overall quality is on par with much expensive brand. You got a lot for your money. Of course it's not a well known brand like longines and you name it, but it provides outstanding value.

PRX is still the king in this "category". The Twelve is overpriced and overdesigned. The mechanism is better than Powermatic and more serviceable, finish might be better, but visually it is almost as convoluted as Seiko Alpinist. And Tsoyosa... it's ok, but I still think that quartz PRX would be much better choice value wise than Citizen with underwhelming finish and very basic automatic mechanism.

Prx wins

@jeffreygoss8109

Жыл бұрын

Especially being $500 less.

The normal Christopher ward is not cosc certified

Not a fair fight, the Tissot is the better watch

@kbarnbrook4993

11 ай бұрын

Of course all slab sided watches, with tinny straps are the best watches ever.

Did you say I have to look at a logo with a macro lens. HAAAHAHAAHAHAH. That's stupid.

Citizen doesn't even belong in this comparison