25/10 for freestyle bikes 39/17 for racing (type) bikes are common and both happy medium gearings. Easy start, fairly easy pop and still have some sprinting ability.

I’m 44 and just got back into bmx and I was like what the hell is with these tiny sprockets lol 😂

@danielanderson8502

11 ай бұрын

Same here. I’m 49!

@AlfredoMancuso

11 ай бұрын

Hahaha it’s a noticeable difference for sure

@SamanthaTheyThem

11 ай бұрын

Bro, we are all getting back into it at 40. Pretty sure 78% of bmx youtube videos have a guy commenting "hey im 40 and getting back into it" I've been that guy and replied to those guys a few times.

@SamanthaTheyThem

11 ай бұрын

Also, I only say bro because my kids say that 3367383743838283 times a day, so it is part of my vocabulary now. I normally don't say bro to other adults, unless I/We are mocking how stupid our children talk. Ok thanks, bye for now.

@jonsharman6853

11 ай бұрын

I’m 46 and got back in to it a year ago, dusted down my mid school bike and thought if 25/9 is the norm now I guess I have to try it but I’m not happy about it, it was of course so much better and wouldn’t go back, still riding my mid school mongoose tho, it’s indestructible

I totally didn't understand this! Thank you for making this video! Just came across your today channel today..im stoked I found it!

Thanks for the reEducation of BMX broski. Useful info and chill vibes with your crew always. 😎

You got the best videos. Thanks man!

Great video 👍 I'd add, as a general rule a smaller sprocket/chainring and shorter chain will wear more quickly than a bigger drivetrain but for freestyle BMX the clearance and weight advantages far out-weigh slightly accelerated wear.

@AlfredoMancuso

11 ай бұрын

That’s a real good point Sandy!

@otavioraupp

11 ай бұрын

I looove my odyssey 13t F/W, i still have it, I rode 36/13 on my #2 bike until recently. But to me, riding 25x9 or even 30x10 is way too small (23x8 is just ridiculous). I ride 32x11 on my #1 bike, and I would ride something like a 33x12 too, I think it's the perfect weight/size/wear balance. As for hitting the coping... just hop and dive in! 🤘🤘

dope videos 🤙🏽

@AlfredoMancuso

11 ай бұрын

Thank you!

Good video. 👊🏼

Remember having the GT "Compact Disc" chainwheel, with the GT logo on it, maybe a 43? Also remember hanging up on disasters terribly as well.😮😂

Lol soon as you said grab your pants leg lol oh the memories Bahahahahaha

I run 28/9 and love it

Great info. Love the explanation. I am building a pit bike for my son to add to his collection. This helps me a lot when I am ready to purchase the cog,chain and chainring. Thanks.

When I raced BMX in the late 70’s, I ran a 40 / 14, a Roger Decoster frame and Redline fork.

@AlfredoMancuso

11 ай бұрын

40T must have been hard to find

@Chuckster1963

11 ай бұрын

@@AlfredoMancuso I don’t remember it being difficult, but that was a long time ago! I used a Takagi spider with a Ashtabula crank.

@M4c223c

11 ай бұрын

Mid 90’s I was racing ABA with 46/16 with 187.6 mm cranks. I’m 6’1 so I was cranking for speed

I just hated get my jeans caught mid sessions and having a rip all the way up my leg.

@AlfredoMancuso

11 ай бұрын

That was traumatizing for sure!

@iStayKrafty

11 ай бұрын

@@AlfredoMancuso terrible on the whitey tightey days lol

This video was absolutely amazing. As someone who rode BMX back in 2001-2005 I grew up on the 44T/16T. I actually ran that FBM and S&M sprocket you have on the table haha. So when I came back around BMX (I stopped riding in 2005 but still like to look at the bikes today), noticing the smaller sprockets and cogs blew my mind. It made no sense to me haha. So the video was funny, brought back memories, and was informative for us older gen guys. Just imagine having that technology back in the day with those beefy ass Haro and Standard frames haha. I've watched your other videos on the new chains and cogs/flywheels those were interesting as well. I don't remember cassettes really being a thing back in 05? I'd say probably 95% of us all used flywheels. It's honestly good to see some of these older company's still around such as S&M, Kink, and Fit. Keep these videos up please not ust to inform but for us older guys who miss the old days of riding and just enjoy the trips down memory lane. Thank you for what you're doing. I should add do riders still not do sprocket grinds anymore? Hell back in the day we even had sprocket guards on those monstrous things haha. With them being so small is it even still possible to do?

@MadMetalShop

8 ай бұрын

Im still running an original haro grind disc on my 01 mira 540 air 🤣

I’m 46yrs old and been buying and building the bmx’s from my time but it makes since. I did notice the new age have the smaller sprockets but if the gear ratio is the same and lighter then it’s a win.

@AlfredoMancuso

11 ай бұрын

Exactly 🫡

One of the first sprockets I bought was a 36t profile black jack

5:06 - "I don't have a crack scale" - LOL

When I was a kid I couldn’t afford a cassette hub. So I rode a 25t to 16. 😂😂😂

@AlfredoMancuso

11 ай бұрын

Oh me and my brother @mancobra did the same 😂

I'm 13 and I run 16:44 I like it because I prefer to go fast and its better to catch up with everyone and go faster than them. and i ride a 2008 HARO Backtrail

@AlfredoMancuso

11 ай бұрын

Nice! Whatever works for you!

I use a 44 - 13 & I love it

@AlfredoMancuso

11 ай бұрын

Godly setup

I used to bend 44t sprockets constantly, which would then snap my chain. This is an amazing innovation. I just wish I had a 28 or 30t fbm sprocket

I started on 44-16, then went to 36-13 and been at 25-9 on a freecoaster for long time now. It's great not to have to worry about the driver getting messed up in grinds being it's small and having a hub guard for it, but when I had the 44-16 and 36-13 I had the HTP(HOME TOWN PRODUCTS) dropout protector to help especially being I had the aluminum 2hip pork at the time

I run 22-9 and I love it.

@lconthebeat

11 ай бұрын

25-9 for me but ive ran 30-9 and gotta say i liked the extra speed

I had a newer Haro 300.1 and it was like a hamster on a wheel... Still a fan of midschool bmx the most, heavy sturdy and fast.

@AlfredoMancuso

11 ай бұрын

Haha feels unreal to pedal so much

My redline came with 41/14 (2.92), I went to 39/14(2.78) to try to get close to that magical 44/16 (2.75). The mini gears might add a bit of extra stress on the chain over time, but mostly they are just ugly. One thing, with the larger gears, fine tuning is easier. going from a 44 to a 43 or 45 just tunes it slightly to you and your preferred setup. With the smaller gears, a one tooth change is an amplified change, or about equivalent to a two tooth change on the larger gear set. Maybe its a fair trade for weight, but its not for me, Ill take the big gears.

@AlfredoMancuso

11 ай бұрын

The rule of thumb when downsizing or upsizing is 3 teeth in the from and 1 tooth in the back so you’d go 22:8 then 25:9

@doctajuice

11 ай бұрын

That's why they still use them in racing

@swiftxrapid919

11 ай бұрын

We have half link chains now for fine tuning way better then before. Especially since modern bmx frames have built in chain tensioner.

Maybe around 2004ish I got the Standard Bash chainwheel it was 36t, that was small as hell for the time.

@AlfredoMancuso

11 ай бұрын

That was a dream sprocket 🤩

I remember one of my friends running 23/8 gearing his chain where'd out quicker and went to 25/9 gearing, back in the day the gearing I went through 44/16 45/16 36/13 33/10 26/9 25/9 still on now 👍🚲💨

44 just got my GT so much has changed from my days

Good video my dude where is your shop located??

I was born in 2000 and as a kid in a small town never heard of Bmx before and the first time I seen a Bmx bike with a tiny sprocket it tripped me out like “Wtf is that shit “😂!

The clearance is a huge factor.

You are the Best 💕

My first bmx had a 48 tooth front sprocket and a coaster brake. Early 1990s were wild

@AlfredoMancuso

11 ай бұрын

I’ve never seen one this big

Got a ticket for running too fast in a school zone. 44/15 B.S.O. had no sense of humor. I was just going slightly over 35mph. Damn I miss the 80's. 😂

@AlfredoMancuso

11 ай бұрын

Hahahahahaha

I had My Eyes on that FBM sprocket!😁😁

I'm still using a one piece crank and a 36/12 gear set... I'm this old ?! Daaaaaamn...

@AlfredoMancuso

11 ай бұрын

Haha yes

That' FBM sprocket is beautiful

@AlfredoMancuso

11 ай бұрын

Yes!!

30T FTW!

Mid 40's to understand? The faq? Im in my mid 30's and remember Edwin ran a 22-8 gearing. Lol

Back a long time ago, the best buy i made on my first bmx was the Macneil full guard 44T 😅

What current frames have clearance for a bigger gear ratio?

Growing up these where like pogs and slammers. We would trade,swap, buy new or used I had everything on that table. Pretty sure I still have 4 combos in a box somewhere. I always slammed into febs or bouble peg on a ledge. I slammed hard because higher then Iv done and wanted to stick it to 360 out. I broke a lot of chains and sprockets. Doing street with a dirt set up bike. We worked with what we have and had fun. Later realized a park bike was my all around bike. Just doing xups or a bar was hard with wide bars. Back then chopped bars was the answer 😂. Shorter the better until you get broke off.

I never had a problem with 44, and 180 mm cranks, good leverage

@AlfredoMancuso

11 ай бұрын

For the time they were great!

I'm only 30 and it was weird to me when I got back into it also, even though I always had Walmart bikes before. The clearance gave me the confidence to learn how to drop in, but I'm definitely gonna step up to a 28:9. I just cannot get enough speed it seems like.

I was on a DK 40t for quite a while.

I got a 39t sprocket n 16t freewheel set up n it works alright lol

What is a good gear ratio if I use a 33 tooth sprocket? On a 26 inch bike I am saying that because the wheels make a difference also

What about 36t sprocket? What freewheel can we go with?

28/9 is the place to be. Bikes are nearly perfect these days. It all comes down to price point, geometry, and materials. My 26” hardtail will always be lighter than my bmx and that’s just fine.

@AlfredoMancuso

11 ай бұрын

It’s a little hard for the streets but if you ride trails or parks then it’s some awesome pedal power

@JeremyPoythress

5 ай бұрын

upgraded my 2023 redline recon to a odyssey la guardia 28t gear. plan on using it as my dirt /trail bike. also added some weighted bars ends and all metal parts to make it feel like a speedy tank.

Can you run an old school free-wheel with a 28 t chainring?

Is that the chain ring from pink and white gt episode that needs to be completed in a update video?

I definitely get having a smaller one in the front but I use my BMX more for cruising around and less for tricks so I still want to be able to go fast so there's definitely a dilemma... But I'm currently driving around on the old school Mongoose from Walmart and I also have a really nice GT All Chrome all original... $$$

Did you guys ever score an 1986 GT Pro World Tour? I see performers and stuff on your channel but did you get the Pro World Tour? It's kinda rare because they got sued over the name and had to change to Pro Freestyle Tour halfway through 1986. Please find and do a video on the Pro World Tour. Thanks!

I'm 38 I remember the bigger better cranks I feel like the smaller ones was a fad in my teenage years

Remember when the trick disaster had a meaning to it?

Was wondering if anyone knows why my stem is making a crack noise when I push or pull on them forks are tight so nothing is moving that shouldn't thanks

Phu the bmx gear head 🍻

@AlfredoMancuso

11 ай бұрын

Gearguys

I RUN 44 GT WINGS SPROCKET ON MY DYNO DETOUR WITH 16 ON THE WHEEL

give me 27 -9 , then ratio would be 3.00, 😂

Use a scale for these vids, please.

@AlfredoMancuso

11 ай бұрын

You heard PHU, send the scale and we’ll use it haha

Hey was up where you guys located I need parts for my restoration bike

The more teeth the chain is engaged on the safer but you have to find the right size to where it's not too big that it hits everything. I personally prefer a slightly harder gear ratio so I run a 28/9 atm, I'd prefer a 30/10 though so there are more teeth engaged at both ends, I'm also running a slightly stronger than normal 510 chain because of the harder gearing.

@AlfredoMancuso

11 ай бұрын

I like this theory

@M4c223c

11 ай бұрын

That was our theory racing in the mid 90’s. Guys were toying with smaller gear but equivalent ratios for weight but the rear freewheels were the weak point. Racing is a whole different mindset to design where your drive train is the link to your holeshot off gate drop. You need your parts strong AF

I miss my 22-8. The boys and i were talking about this just the other day.

My 87 Detour had the same white (salad plate) sprocket 😂

Still ride my profile 44t on my custom 125r with 990 mounts. Can't take the mid school out of me. When I do a disaster at the park I hop out of it. All Gucci

What gear ratio is best for Big BMX bikes? I like 33/16, then 36/17

Will a 44/10 work on an old school bmx with 24" wheels?

30 x 9 on my "commuter" rig, for my normal rig still on a 25x9 but contemplating on going 28x9

Phu told me he runs 30:8 gear ratio.

@AlfredoMancuso

11 ай бұрын

He lied

@zbignoz.tunnlerwitz_109

11 ай бұрын

@@AlfredoMancuso Phu knows who did run that set up though.

had velccro straps I put around my pants when I wore pants to ride. Usually shorts. I ran a 43 16 actually.

@AlfredoMancuso

11 ай бұрын

Oh snaps

I remember back then, my riding buddies rode 16x22 while i was on 16x32 gearing, . We were pedaling so fast but not getting far. The richest kid in our crew has a Haro cassette hub. Curious micro drive never caught on. Chain snapping was solved by half link chains. Was there more strength issues on the driver that i dont know of? With the trend of frames getting shorter, i cant even go up 28t (26 and 27t sprockets are rare) without sacrificing a straight chainline. 8x25 sounds good.

@AlfredoMancuso

11 ай бұрын

Yea the tiny bearing in the driver and the stress on the half link chain still made it undesirable

eventually i do want to switch to a smaller setup but until i get the money im happy where im at with the bike

@AlfredoMancuso

11 ай бұрын

Sounds like a plan

use the fish scale

@AlfredoMancuso

11 ай бұрын

Touché

32/9 over here.

@AlfredoMancuso

11 ай бұрын

That’s wild

@x88868

7 ай бұрын

​@@AlfredoMancuso I dropped down to 31/9. 32/9 was too hard and my chain alignment was way WAY off. I now run a smaller dust cap and 31T sprocket that is basically a hairline away from the frame, this having my chain alignment almost straight and aligned with the frame and ever since then, it has been so much better. And I feel I move so much faster as well, even tho it's a tooth smaller. I'm thinking about going 30/9 because where I currently live since I last left the comment, I live in Alhambra, which is a hilly type area and it's hard to pedal the 32/9 and even the 31/9.

Fu looks fucken hammered haha,,cheers guys from nyc

Good stuff. Racers still run those big gear ratios though

@AlfredoMancuso

11 ай бұрын

Good point

@johneeeemarry34

11 ай бұрын

Smoother, ie less link movement so less friction and subtler, ie 44/16 , 45/16…

I always rode a 45 16. With no issues 🤣😂🤣😂

Alot of people evan my age dont know about these newer sprockets

anyways im dealing witha pop on my bike im guessing the worn out sprockets havent brokew in with teh new chain

@AlfredoMancuso

11 ай бұрын

Or improper drive train alignment

Sprocket Taco 🌮 now I have 35 to 9

Looking for a smooth and reliable hub set that does t break the bank. Thanks in advance for any recommendations?

@csj9619

Күн бұрын

BlackOps, ACS or Odyssey would fit the bill methinks

Anyone with an old school bike looking for new wheels that fit, Profile BMX hubs with female axles are your answer. And Profile has custom cog sizes, not just 9 tooth. ⚙️

I’m still running a 52t front 22t rear, let’s just say it loves parking lots

Can anyone tell me info about 33/15 gear ratio? That’s what’s on my SE big ripper

I'm sure you can find people riding both style gears but I always thought the bigger gears come on race bikes, park/trail bikes get the smaller gears because you don't need a lot of speed in a skate park... on trails you pump to get speed where as in a race cranking may be the difference between first and second place

30/9 makes me as fast as a car...and Tom Dugan.

For street/park it's great but you won't find that set up on a race track. Also, if you bent the steel one, you could probably straighten it. If you bring that aluminum to that point, it's snapping.

@AlfredoMancuso

11 ай бұрын

Solid point

@M4c223c

11 ай бұрын

We always ran aluminum on the track. Ounces equals pounds, pounds equals pain. For a while we started changing all our cromoly parts to titanium

Thank Profile for bringing the cassette to bmx.

@johneeeemarry34

11 ай бұрын

It was Shimano that introduced the cassette to BMX in 1979, but profile stuck to the concept and everyone else followed suit so your point is on point…

@weatheranddarkness

2 ай бұрын

@@johneeeemarry34 Profile brought the one piece driver wwhich enabled 10, 9, and then 8t. Shimano always had a swapable cog, so you could never get down below 12t..

On a 26" bike can I run 33/16?

Hehehe...😎 I'm a almost 50 year farth, I get that!👍 thanks for the video!😎👍

Please I need an mtb cassette louder hub sound.how much sir?

Ethan said Bobby Lee is your older brother….

I’m still using 30-11

I run a 33 9

I can't believe you guys don't have a crack scale.

I remember those big-ass sprockets (not to be confused with big ass-sprockets)

@AlfredoMancuso

11 ай бұрын

Hahahaha

Currently running 23/9

I know you know what you need to talk about it Bmx isn’t Just Street and freestyle there’s a couple 500,000 kids in race bmx using a lot different gears from 4416 to One of my young riders is a 3915 so the the range is very big can you please explain to people Bmx is not just freestyle

28x9 is the best