Epona has dialogue in TP if you talk to her as a wolf. She seems pretty intelligent, she knows that you're Link when most other characters don't, and tells you to transform back so you can get moving.

@Gourune

16 күн бұрын

If you could do that in BOTW my horses would say some pretty awful things about me.

@Leo-pd4fc

7 күн бұрын

That's why Epona is a good horse it knows who's he's master even as a wolf! 😮❤

@Leo-pd4fc

7 күн бұрын

​@@Gourunecould it be possible with Wolf and Midna Link amiibo?😊

If you count king of the red lions, then by this same logic, mineru is playable in totk.

Groose makes me so confused, I swear I started that game hating the s**t out of him and by the end of the game I found myself almost with his face on a shirt, a little flag and asking "how did I get myself here?". Okay, to be fair, he does have a gradual redemption arc while also not becoming someone else, that's hard to write when he is not even a protagonist Edit: Oh, also, I really liked the video! Good job, keep it up :)

@Gourune

16 күн бұрын

I really hope the next Zelda game has a character like him that isn't the main protagonist, but is still prominent in the story and grows along Link.

If sailing with the red lion count as playing as him, then you also play as linebeck in phantom hourglass, is he is the one controlling the ship, you only decide the route

We should’ve played as Kafei more

you forgot the statues in wind waker and twilight princess. The falcon, twili carrier bird and midna are technically controlled by the player in TP. Also, Tingle in Wind Waker if you count the Tingle Tuner

@lipecau

17 күн бұрын

oh wait! The Cucco in TP aswell!

@meow762

17 күн бұрын

​@@lipecau that was so fun! TP was my first zelda game, i remember being shocked when in other games the cuccoo started hitting me back instead of letting me control them lol

@Gourune

16 күн бұрын

I did consider most of those, but shot them down early on. I wanted to go with ones that were more niche which is why I shot down Midna since she's your guide in TP. That's also the case for Zelda in ST, but only 12 people played that game lol. The statues felt a little forced and didn't give me much to work with. And like I said I only wanted to do one entry per game, so I went with Red Lions instead for the bit. Thank you for bringing those up though!

Playing as Zelda in Skyward Sword sounds cool until you remember that she took the same path as Link. So you'd have to travel to the 3 main regions again on top of the multiple times the game already forces you to do so.

Dont forget about the animal companions in the oracle games: Moosh the flying bear Rikki the boxing kangaroo Dimitri the red sea lizard/crocodile

@Gourune

16 күн бұрын

I have a confession, I've never played the Oracles games :(

Might just be me, but I enjoyed Phantom Hourglass on my replay a couple years back even more than when I first played it as a kid. For some reason I didn't find returning to the Temple of the Ocean King repetitive at all despite my recollection and the internets general consensus

@grak6363

17 күн бұрын

i adore phantom hourglass and think it still holds up, plus the ocean temple is legit speed running heaven so idk why people as a whole are so against it. glad to see another phantom hourglass defender 🙏

@LeopoldLitchenstein

17 күн бұрын

I just didn't like the touch controls in those games. I think they have some great ideas, but the touch controls make them one and done for me

@Keanine

17 күн бұрын

@@LeopoldLitchenstein Honestly fair. My second playthrough was on an emulator on my phone, so the controls actually worked really nicely! There's also a mod out there which enables d-pad movement, playable on hardware with an R4 cart, but I think you might still need the stylus for a couple things, I don't remember

@Keanine

17 күн бұрын

@@grak6363 right! I really enjoyed how each area seemed to have multiple ways of getting through them, each faster than the next as you got more items. It's so different each time you return! I honestly wonder if maybe I didn't realise those paths existed and I went the long ways as a kid?

@toumabyakuya

17 күн бұрын

@@grak6363 Because, without an speedrunner's mindset, repeatedly returning to it is tedious and boring.

I would say it doesn't matter if Link is telling the King of Red Lions where to go, as long as he's not actually steering. And it doesn't look like he steers in any way. It's more like he jumps in, tells the ship where to go, and it does what it needs to go there.

@Gourune

13 күн бұрын

@@ZipplyZane Link jumps in and goes “MUSH!”

@j00j7

6 күн бұрын

He’s steering using the crank on the back, he’s got his hand on it the whole time and turns it when the boat turns

@ZipplyZane

6 күн бұрын

@@j00j7 I actually found and watched a video to be sure before I posted. And yet I totally missed that. You are correct, in both HD and the original. I will delete my post in a bit.

Wish we could have played as Groose more too

i lost at the kafei quest as a kid :( i remembered it being so difficult lol

Eh, liked the overall video but your sarcasm wasn't really required. Also: Kafei was turned into a kid by Skull Kid, did you truly expect him to fight monsters with his weak body?. Zelda isn't boring to play as on Spirit Tracks, it just sounds like you (like most modern players) want everything done immediately and lack patience.

@Gourune

16 күн бұрын

That would be cool if he did. People have theorized Kafei is the Termina-counterpart to Link, so maybe he's got a few tricks up his sleeves that are too big for him now that he's a child. With Zelda it's not a matter of patience, but a lack of depth. It would've been sick if she could possess other enemies, bosses, NPCs. Seemed like missed potential to me. Also the sarcasm is a form of flattery! When I sound like a massive hater for something I actually love it with all my heart. You should hear me play TF2.

@toumabyakuya

16 күн бұрын

@@Gourune *"When I sound like a massive hater for something I actually love it with all my heart."* Yeah, no, I don't like it. It just sounds way too harsh and negative for no good reason. *"People have theorized Kafei is the Termina-counterpart to Link,"* That would be cool. Sadly, we only saw Kafei when he was cursed to be small in MM, so he couldn't do that. *"It would've been sick if she could possess other enemies, bosses, NPCs."* That's not how her power works. She can posses the Phantoms because they lack a soul. All other monsters cannot be possesed by her.

Technically you play as medli and makar, but using command melody in wind waker

@KeiranTrick

17 күн бұрын

Having not watched the video yet, I'd argue those (and the statues) don't really count. You're not playing as Medli and Makar, you're playing as Link who is mind-controlling Medli and Makar. Same with the seagulls.

@Gourune

16 күн бұрын

@@KeiranTrick Medli and Makar are in a weird grey area for me. You do control them through Link, but they have their own unique abilities like being able to fly/glide. That's why I didn't count the statues in WW or TP as all you really do is hop around.

On the GameCube version of WW, if you have a gameboy and a connector cord (idk the official name of it), you can play as Tingle. Very limited but you can drop bombs and a couple other things for Link.

You talked about how you can control Zelda in Spirit Tracks' Tower of Spirits and *completely forgot* to mention how you also have her playable during the Final Battle. First with the battle at the top of the Demon Train against Malladus & Cole where she possesses a Guardian and acts as your shield to get to her possessed body, and then as your assist against Malladus final phase where you distract him so you can then move her in his back to shoot him with the Light Bow. One of my favorite boss fight of the franchise beacause of this who makes this mechanic relevent (and imo fun) 'til the very end

My man forgot you can play as the cuccos on twilight princess if you hit them enough

That moment when Zelda dies in the funny choo choo game:

😲 - Woah!

Tingle games are surprisingly fun. That's a hill I'm willing to die on.

@Gourune

16 күн бұрын

I believe you, I can be mean sometimes...

Remember tingles rosey ruppeeland

Bro how is no one talking about echoes of wisdow where you play as zelda.😂😂

Cool Video Bro.

@Gourune

16 күн бұрын

ty ;)

@fatalwaffle1715

16 күн бұрын

Np.

i only wanted zelda playable for coop because multiplayer makes every game better

If characters you can steer are considered as a "Playable character", then Tears Of The Kingdom DID give us playable Zelda, because she technically guides us in the sky when fighting the Demon Dragon at the end of the game.

Groose is kind of reddit shit but so is playing as zelda in general imo. Like "they did the thing omg". That being said I do hope the new game is fun, despite not being the biggest fan of the visuals from the links awakening remake

What about links awakening, wouldn’t Marin count as a playable charecter

HI KAFEI!!!!!!!!

wtf? Where’d you get guardians? 😅 They’re called phantoms commonly

Nintendo direct

@Gourune

16 күн бұрын

yuh.

this video is kinda reddit

I didn't even know Kafei had a slap. Although to be fair it is completely pointless. At least rolling can maybe make you go a little faster

@Gourune

16 күн бұрын

I only discovered it through complete accident. When I got to Sakon's Hideout, I was messing with the buttons to see if he could do anything cool lol.

@LilacMonarch

16 күн бұрын

@@Gourune It makes me wonder if at some point they considered using crystal switches or something

@Drizzilenotreal

9 күн бұрын

it looks more like a punch {at least in mm3d} to me tbh

Oh boy you're now idea what danger you're in now that you criticized Spirit Tracks. They're coming... I'm already...

@BillMCypher

5 күн бұрын

as someone who loves spirit tracks, the game is certainly flawed, and could definitely be better.

YOU SHUT UP ABT THE TINGLE GAMES THEYRE GOOD