It’s nice but I’m pretty sure parts and accessories along with dealer network makes the Grom more desirable to own.

@BaracW

2 жыл бұрын

Dealers are sparse, but parts are super cheap, it really easy to work on, and hop ups, though not as plentiful are available stateside.

@simonrankin9177

2 жыл бұрын

Thats what i was thinking ,,,is the parts and after sales service up to scratch. ..

@z33thr33

2 жыл бұрын

It's also made by a Chinese owned company. 100% guaranteed the manufacturing quality is not even in the same ballpark.

@jasonjulian1

2 жыл бұрын

@@z33thr33 Chinese manufacturing is absolutely capable of producing top world quality products. The problem is that they often just don’t. They manufacture to a low price instead of high quality. sadly many Chinese manufacturing companies have gotten really comfortable doing that instead of doing their best work. Does the stereotype persists. Mostly because it’s actually true.

@z33thr33

2 жыл бұрын

@@jasonjulian1 of course slave and child labor can produce good quality products, but they're not gonna make them for you. Anyone is CAPABLE of greatness, but that doesn't mean jack s***. They're usually racists who hate you. They literally teach a pathos in their schools and culture to rip people off, especially foreigners. There's also a notable difference deriving from understanding, designing, and refining a product, and replication based on stolen intellectual property. A big difference.

I had a Z125, got rid of it, missed it, found a great deal on one of these and picked it up almost a year ago. Compared to the Z125, the TNT135 feels a bit bigger and it has a less cramped seating position. It weighs about 30lbs more but it's not that noticeable. I can get it up to slightly higher speeds than I could get the Z, but it's still not fast by any means - a slight headwind or uphill will knock down the top speed, and I try to stay off of roads with a limit higher than 55mph. Also, the true "GPS" top speed is not 70mph. The speedo is quite a ways off from factory, so you can make it show 70mph, but you won't actually be doing a true 70mph. There is a way to adjust this setting in the dash to make it more accurate - I believe the true top speed is somewhere in the mid 60mph range. The shifting action is better than it was on my Z - I had lots of false neutrals and unintentional dropping of gears with the Z, and nothing of the sort with the Benelli. It has a 5th gear just like the new Grom, and the ratios are pretty close - it makes for a lot more shifting than the Z. The Benelli also uses an oil filter, has an oil sight glass, and comes with an oil cooler stock. There are only a few areas where the lower price point has shown through so far - the clutch lever has a lot of up and down slop from the factory, and the tires are "Cordial" brand (but they seem to get the job done for normal riding). Unfortunately it is currently in the shop to have some hardware replaced under warranty - it was corroded by a leaky factory battery, but I rode the bike ~45 miles of backroads a few days ago to get it to the dealer and didn't have a single hiccup.

Thank you, Alex, nice to see you in front of the camera. Appreciate your opinions and reviews

This is a really cool bike. I did buy one a few years ago, versus the Grom, after extensive research and comparison. I'm 270 lbs and can get it up to 65 mph (speedo has required correction) tucked in and on flat ground. I have had 0 problems with the TNT and love it. BTW, this is my 5th bike in 20+ years of riding.

@Moshes.Adonis777

2 жыл бұрын

You still have the bike? How many miles

@BaracW

2 жыл бұрын

@@Moshes.Adonis777 Yes, I still have it. About 1200 miles on it.

@iconacy

2 жыл бұрын

@@BaracW is it reliable? Does it have any maintenance issues?

@BaracW

2 жыл бұрын

@@iconacy It has proven to reliable so far. No problems whatsoever.

@leeflory1716

Жыл бұрын

“Extensive research” It’s called “Italian Motorcycle Disease”, there is no cure and the treatments get more and more expensive damhik ;)

It is a cool bike. I had one before I bought the 2022 grom. I’d a nightmare with mine. Broke down twice within 6 months of ownership and only had 300 miles on the clock. Couldn’t get parts from china and the dealer took it back. I wasn’t the only one with hassles. Be warned.

@alexp6409

2 жыл бұрын

What kind of issues did you have with yours? Mine is at the dealer right now having some hardware replaced - it was corroded by a leaking factory battery.

@korbendallas71

2 жыл бұрын

@@alexp6409 I was told it was fuel injectors the first time as it was as misfiring burning rich and bogging down to a stall. Second time was more serious and the dealer didn’t know what the fault codes were relating too. I stood my ground with him as the first time he had my bike for 3 months. He took it back and cut my losses with it. When it was running I loved it. But I lost confidence in it once things started to go wrong. Hope you have better luck with yours.

@angelteamnolimit624

2 жыл бұрын

No way dude really ?

@korbendallas71

2 жыл бұрын

@@angelteamnolimit624 yeah it gave me a bunch of hassles. Couldn’t wait to get rid of it. I loved that bike too, never had a bike that got so many compliments and looks. Shame about the parts scarcity. I’m in the UK I don’t know how things are in the US. All in all In just about a year of ownership the dealer had it for 7 months waiting for diagnosis and parts

@faggianogeuiseppi5135

Жыл бұрын

China for ya

Well done video Alex. The first thing that caught my eye was the amazing looking exhaust. This is a Grom killer.

@intergalacticbasketballdro7186

2 жыл бұрын

Nice exhaust ? ✅ Grom Killer ? ❌ The Grom Squad is WAY BIGGER than the Benelli Band will EVER be.

I've never ridden a Grom, so cannot comment on them, but I've owned about 30 motorcycles of all varieties over the past 50 years. The mini moto universe is the only realm I've never visited. As a dedicated commuter in a urban-city environment, I thought it was time to take the plunge. Finding a Grom in my state turned out to be an excersise in futility. Finding out dealers were charging 5k OTD for Groms in other areas, made it necessary to move on. In short, I got a TNT135 for 3k and it has reinvigorated my love of riding. It's a total blast to rip around the city like a fool and totally under the radar. It takes me back to that feeling I got from the Honda Mini-trail I started on in 1970. Quality-wise, the only real standout cheapness, is the clutch lever. That is the only part that lives down to the "Chinese junk" reputation. Everything else is done very nicely and at least on par - if not better - than both Ninjas I've owned. Time will tell about reliability, but no issues yet as a daily rider, and more fun than I ever imagined. If your are looking for a peewee, don't pass these by, at least look, you may be pleasantly surprised.

65 mph on my 22 grom. Only exhaust so far was changed. But this TNT135 looks gorgeous

I have a 2019 just turned 15,000 miles on it. Far as I can tell it doesn't use any oil still runs great and I can get 68 mph GPS speed. No regrets buying this. Supper cheap and easy to maintain.

@Moshes.Adonis777

2 жыл бұрын

How's it going I'm debating making the purchase

@ridesoftail

2 жыл бұрын

@@Moshes.Adonis777 It depends on what you want it for I wanted cheap transportation to get me and my dog around to different parks in the area and still look cool and dependable I'd say it works good for me

@Moshes.Adonis777

2 жыл бұрын

@@ridesoftail have you run into any issues? How many miles do you have on it nowadays

@Moshes.Adonis777

2 жыл бұрын

Is it honestly reliable?

@ridesoftail

2 жыл бұрын

@@Moshes.Adonis777 I spent over $20,000 on my Harley it left me stranded 3 time's in 50,000 miles Benelli 0 time's in 15,000 miles

I could be wrong, but I believe the Benelli comes with an oil cooler also. Due to the oil coil, better suspension, larger engine, larger bore they used to weigh about 28 pounds more than the grom.

@HWM636

9 ай бұрын

The pickup is in the back of the motor so it can be stunted, just need to fill it a little extra

Thank you for the information with the Benelli it's not too hard to make a decision plus we got the Lifan xp150 also

At least it has a oil filter and oil sight glass... just gotta grom and im quite disappointing they didn't put them in the build. Oil spinners and dip sticks are a pain in the ass!!!

Being a China-made/produced motorcycle, this is a competitor to the Taotao Hellcat (about $1200). It should be priced around $1500 due to the upgraded top end of the engine. For $3000, this is WAY overpriced. Zero dealer support, zero manufacturer support, and basically no resell value. It'd be a fun ride, but it is not comparable to the quality of a Grom.

@BaracW

2 жыл бұрын

Wrong. A Taotao has carburetor, has an inferior engine and gear box. This is fuel injected, has a decent engine and a 5 speed gear box. You can't buy a Taotao at a Honda or Yamaha powersports dealer. That's who are selling Bennellis.

@alexp6409

2 жыл бұрын

@@BaracW Yup, quite a few of my local Honda and Yamaha dealerships have started carrying Benelli's.

@paulcondie2520

2 жыл бұрын

Benelli is made in Italy. Been making motorcycles since early 1900s. Probably way more of a quality bike than the Tao and just as well built as the grom

@msFez24024

2 жыл бұрын

Benelli was once an Italian company but were bought out by a Chinese company in the mid 2000s I believe. I own one and quality wise I would say it’s very close to the grom. But you can’t beat Honda, they have a strong hold on the market.

@paulcondie2520

2 жыл бұрын

@@msFez24024 👍, I didn't know they were sold. I know Benelli is one of the oldest motorcycles ever made! The impression I got from the other guys comment was it was just some cheap Chinese junk. I know all about Honda's reliability! Lol. Benellis are found all over Europe! I wouldn't be surprised if they're still manufactured in Italy under a Chinese name

I love my Benelli TNT 135 2022. I've done quite a bit of work and customization on my bike: after-market levers, gear shifter, vinyl wrap, light pod kit, gear indicator. It's a great bike and well made. I love the ergonomics and riding position. It scoots! (for a mini moto)

@irocss85

2 жыл бұрын

Where do you find aftermarket for these types of bikes? I'm just looking at getting into these. Got a ssr 140 pit bike I've always wished was street legal.

@onewaymyles

2 жыл бұрын

@@irocss85 aliexpress has a lot of part for them & steadygarage

@olesnapdaddy

2 жыл бұрын

@irocss85 I have the ssr 140 myself. Love it. Just bought one of these benelli tnt 135s Saturday. It's a blast!!!

Great little review, just enough!!!

Great video. You do a great job. Thanks !😊

Nice review, very informative. Really like the bike and the price point is great.

2 years warranty, in my country parts and aftermarket is cheap and plenty enough. Had 2 1st gen groms, first one welded itself stuck during a 400 kms trip after warranty, second one blew 2 headgaskets and brake lever fell off within 20k kms. Not to say the benelli hasn't had its problems, the oem chain broke off before the first service, i need to adjust the chain every 200 kms because it tightens itself up, had to adjust the rear brake and throttle, valves need to be checked every 3k kms. However it has now over 40k kms (most of those were on highways near to 9 k rpm) and it is still alive. I also own a mt 07 with just 10k kms (0 problems) and a benelli 302s with 5k picking up dust in the garage due to a broken crankshaft, i am by no means biased. Also in my country the grom costs almost twice as much as the tnt (2600 euros vs 4500 euros)

I bought one of these about a year ago after also trying the Grom, the Kawasaki Z125 and the cheap Chinese clones. I chose the Benelli mainly because it's a little bigger than the Honda or the Kawasaki, much more comfortable for me. And the extra power and 5-speed transmission are nice too. The quality seems to me at least as good as the Kawasaki or the Honda and to me it's better looking. There's a dealer near me.

@shaunjones8964

2 жыл бұрын

groms have a 5 speed now

@fukhue8226

Жыл бұрын

Markymark 6 months ago (edited) It is a cool bike. I had one before I bought the 2022 grom. I’d a nightmare with mine. Broke down twice within 6 months of ownership and only had 300 miles on the clock. Couldn’t get parts from china and the dealer took it back. I wasn’t the only one with hassles. Be warned.

Just bought Red TNT 135 , cant wait for the weather to clear to ride it

I've got my 2017 grom up to 73 on a flat road. Happy with that

@glenndoiron9317

2 жыл бұрын

The Grom (and the Benelli) doesn't have enough horsepower to do that. Your speedometer is probably off by 10-15mph.

Nice bike , still bought the grom sp 3 weeks ago.

I've checked these out (haven't ridden it) at my local dealer. They look decent, but taller riders are going to have their knees smacking right into the tank shrouds. Touch points are very important and that unfortunately makes this bike a no-go for me. Check out the Kymco Spade 150. It's more of a Honda Monkey killer given the retro styling, but it absolutely is a Grom/Monkey killer. It's a 4 valve head and makes 13 hp. I owned a Spade for a few months a couple years ago and it would push my 250 lbs + over 70 mph without tucking. For the $1500 I paid for that used Spade, it was a cool little bike. I did prefer the taller seating position on my Monkey and sold the Spade for a few hundred more than I paid.

Pretty cool-looking little bike. I never heard of it before. I hope you guys can get one to give us your thoughts on how it rides.

Late to the party. I have owned 100+ motorcycles and currently own 10 and this dude is one of my favorites. I've had one for 2 years. Awesome little bike. 72 mph (gps) with a 230lb guy on it all day. 4800 miles on mine, no issues at all. Thing rocks.

@Moshes.Adonis777

2 жыл бұрын

How's it going

@MotoStoriesandmore

2 жыл бұрын

@@Moshes.Adonis777 TNT135 has 7000 trouble free miles. Still rocking. Just rode it 438 miles at WOT doing the Lake Erie Loop Race. Love the little bike!

@kobebetty

Жыл бұрын

I wonder how fast I would go I weigh 140lbs

@MotoStoriesandmore

Жыл бұрын

@@kobebetty Less weight won't increase the mechanical top speed. The red line kicks in at 10K, the gearing etc will keep the bike at 76 indicated. (probably 68 GPS)

My buddy just bought a black one and he loves it

theres a couple near my local dealer and they look really nice

I bought mine last year and put 3k miles on it in less than 6 months. Took a 600 mile road trip on it (stock) and although not super comfortable it was a fun trip. At first wish I would've gone with a Grom but if you're planning to upgrade after a year like I am it's a much cheaper option while sacrificing little. For longevity go with the Grom, for cheap quick fun go with Benelli.

@pauld.b7129

2 жыл бұрын

The Grom would have been worse. It's a 4 speed and has like 30% less power. Also isn't nearly as comfortable or good looking.

@Chestwolf

2 жыл бұрын

@@pauld.b7129 idk about 30% less power, the HP isn't that much of a difference from 125cc to 135cc. Also the 2022 Grom is a 5 speed like the Benelli so a slightly higher top speed than previous models. Like I said I personally think with the Grom is better when it comes to quality of the bike but with such a small cc you can't really go wrong either way unless you just really want the ABS model Grom.

@pauld.b7129

2 жыл бұрын

@@Chestwolf it's about 30%, the Grom has 9.5 horsepower and the Benelli has 13. Revs higher as well meaning more rev range in each gear. I've rode both, the Grom feels so much slower and lazier in it's power delivery. They are both good, I never liked the Grom to begin with though. Just too underpowered and the 4 speed bothered me, at least pre-2022.

@amatureskater15

2 жыл бұрын

@@pauld.b7129 11.3hp

@garymiller3754

Жыл бұрын

@@pauld.b7129 I know this is an older post, but im replying because i bought a 2023 abs model grom this past year with the five speed trans, and 10 to 1 compression motor, and the red, white, and blue color scheme that came with it. Im 70yrs old, and at 255lbs, that little bike pulls me just fine, and the fastest top speed i had it to going with the wind was 68mph and its stock. 50-55 is the norm for this bike, but like another person said, i don't go on roads with limits over 50-55mph, and going against the wind will cut that limit down a lot. People always comment about how nice it looks, and ask where to get one, and these are pretty scarce. Im in Illinois, and i found mine in Iowa, 445mi. away, but i did a turn and burn, went there with cash in hand and brought it home. The abs model was higher because of the abs brakes, and other things, bigger motor, 5 speed trans and what not $3,800.00 and $4,100 out the door with taxes and set up and all, but i would not sell it for double that, to hard to replace, and a fun little bike. I will look into this Benneli TNT-135 though, if it has the power they say it does, and a little better top end, i might pick one up, but i will never trade, or sell my grom. They have the big bore kits, and high perf stuff for the grom, but i just cant see tearing apart a brand new bike for a few more miles per hour. But i am looking for a pair of throw over bags, or a hard bag setup for carrying other stuff, tools, mini usb air compressor and things. Iv'e always been a Harley, and Goldwing guy, and toured a lot of states with my wife over the years, but, i like my small bikes also, for trips on the back roads. I think true Grom riders, and owners will never give them up for these other bikes, but they will buy one, and ride it, and park it in the garage next to their grom. The first to months i had my Grom, i put 1043mi. on it, then cold weather showed up, but 60 degrees and higher, ill be ridin.

Went for latest Grom over TNT, build quality so much better on the Honda IMHO, easier to work on too.

nice review Alex.

The Grom wins for me love it, I like everything about it, if I were going get something that was an alternative I would get that Honda cub trail just because it looks a great bike for me to go fishing on. great channel. I can get parts pretty easy for the Grom

@intergalacticbasketballdro7186

2 жыл бұрын

The Grom has more aftermarket mod parts available than any other motorcycle made. Honda is #1 in quality. Grom is the #1 stunt cycle for beginners. The 125cc Honda Grom is $800 cheaper than the 125cc Honda Cub and $800 cheaper than the 125cc Honda Monkey ! The Grom has a better, more advanced suspension system than the Cub and the Monkey have.

@pauld.b7129

2 жыл бұрын

The Benelli is better in almost every way. More power, 5 gears, larger frame, more seat space.... These look great with knobbies on them too. And what parts do you think you'll need? Unless you need to rebuild the engine, most things are universal.

@m6dspartan903

2 жыл бұрын

​@@pauld.b7129 the past 3 years of grom have 5 gears

That think is absolutely KILLER looking

Trying get this bike for learn manual bikes, the look is sic! I like bigger cc aspect as well ;)

The Kymco Spade 150 is also a great option for a less expensive grom competition

@intergalacticbasketballdro7186

2 жыл бұрын

Nobody wants a Kymco 150. They want quality. They need quality. (Something that will last) Most people would rather have a 50cc Honda Ruckus than a 150cc Kymco .

@glenndoiron9317

2 жыл бұрын

@@intergalacticbasketballdro7186 Kymco isn't a junk Chinese brand, they have Taiwan quality.

Personally, I would like to see Yamaha or Ducati cut into this market segment to see what they would come up with… …

@letsgobrandon7637

2 жыл бұрын

I have thought the exact same thing. YAMAHA R01 or R.1

@captainthruster9484

2 жыл бұрын

The two best companies for beautiful motorcycles. Yamaha is the best styling for the big 4 and always has been. Aprilia and ktm make beautiful motorcycles, but Ducati truly is the Ferrari of two wheels

@FBA_God_Emperor_Doom

Жыл бұрын

The Yamaha mt-03 is 200cc if I'm not mistaken but it's $4,500

i definitely dint know about these untill now top speed is a big deal for me so this would definitely do it imma try to test ride all 3 next week

ive always wanted a faster grom imma buy this without question!

I have a Grom, but rode a TNT135 recently & the quality difference was amazing. The TNT controls were a lot tackier, the engine with 4000km's on it was rattling, the mirrors were awful & overall it had the feel of a cheap Grom copy. Yup, it goes a bit better, but for how long?

@Copperhead47

2 жыл бұрын

No it’s not. I have a grom and this benelli, and I would say the opposite. This feels better to me.

@armdrop101

2 жыл бұрын

Tnt feels solid holds the road better. I have both

@benbarcham1500

2 жыл бұрын

I had a 2017 grom and it was ok. But for a Honda it felt cheap. I would definitely have the benelli over the grom

@armdrop101

2 жыл бұрын

@@benbarcham1500 tnt is a solid bike

@rickyb6086

2 жыл бұрын

Almost 4000 miles on my Benelli, and still going strong. I always change the oil, and run premium 91 octane. It's all about maintenance, if you maintain your bike it will last.

Benelli TNT Pros: Fuel injection Quad OHC 5-speed gearbox 135cc's (10 more than Grom) Looks awesome!! Rides awesome 👌 Cons: Finding a dealer, or parts. However, I've found out there is quite the selection online, if you know where to look.

@irocss85

2 жыл бұрын

Where do you look???

@BigDaddyPump959

2 жыл бұрын

I’m with that guy, I’m stuck on Honda Grom and I’m tryna Give this Benelli a chance but finding parts is just Painstakingly rough bro

Man I bought my grom in early November. I've not had hardly any time to ride it cause its freezing outside but I've done alot to it, exhaust intake, tune.... But these bikes look soooo good. Look at that brake pedal. The grom has a brake pedal made of tin. I went offroad and spilled myself onto the road and rolled a few times, shook it off and grabbed the Grom and the brake was sticking up 90° one good foot slam bent it back down. Point is. Nothing should bend that easy. Weird for Honda to skimp on a part so serious.

Here in Norway you have to have a class 2 licence for a 135 cc where the limit for class a is 125 ccm. but yea the bike is nice..

Nothing will ever kill the Grom.

Hondas will always be more reliable. When the Benelli engine blows the grom will still be going strong. Lifespan is twice as long if i had to buy 1 I’d get the grom or z125

@bfarm44

2 жыл бұрын

Lots of issues with the new Honda 5 speed transmission that they are not fully addressing. No issues with the Binelli as such. 1,000 bucks less.

@flibbertigibbet6200

2 жыл бұрын

Benelli has a 5yr warranty

@abeandmel

7 ай бұрын

@@flibbertigibbet6200Are they transferable? Looking at one currently.

I looked at all the mini's, and I bought the Lifan. Had a bout a year now, NOT A SINGLE ISSUE!, its a 150, I'm close to 280 lbs, In my 70's , and I can do 63 mph without Redlining. I also put knobbies on it and as long as pick your line so as to keep in mind the low pipe, you can churn thru dirt with a serious grin on your face. For what I do, traveling secondary paved roads to run the dirt back roads that about in my US South Central rural area, it's simply one hell out of lot of fun. A lighter guy could change the primary sprocket and get 70 mph, good torque for a 150. Oh, last thing, the Lifan is less expensive than ALL the other mini's, and less than half the price of the Grom / Benelli out the door. Heck, in the state I'm in, there aren't even any taxes on the purchase cause the price is so low....:)

The difference is: I have a Honda PC50 moped from 1970 that still starts first pedal and rides beautifully. I’d bet my Honda moped will still be running long after that Benelli is toast. Hondas are built to last forever if they are maintained basically, and the parts and service are easy to deal with. I prefer the Monkey to the Grom by far just on looks, but I’d never step away from Honda to save a few hundred bucks.

@johndough1703

10 ай бұрын

Great comment

Awesome review on the Benelli. I still like the Grom killer that I ride, The Rps Condor. It's a 150 cc 5 speed and I've gotten it to 70 mph and costs way less than both, 2k less than the grom. I do like how this mini moto looks over all.

@totalglitch

10 ай бұрын

Where is it made? Amy issues so far?

Funny every competition of the grom can never get out from the shadow of the grom. They can’t be an original idea but instead they always wants to be “the grom killer “

@punkr6

4 ай бұрын

And they never succeed.

My only issue was too much green so I carbon dipped the wheels and front fender then changed out the pipe. Great little bike but crapolla headlight.

Great job guys so I brought all these thumbs ups 👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍💥💯

Checked one out yesterday at the local Honda dealer in Maine . Ticket price was $2999 and walk out the door price was $4350 , taxes , doc , setup etc was pretty close to 42-45%of the the bike cost . WTH deciding not to venture down this avenue !!!!!!!! 🤬

Looks cool AF, but no fuggin way if “assembled in China.”

@korbendallas71

2 жыл бұрын

True I had one. It’s the benelli tnt 125 in the uk. Several breakdowns and dealer couldn’t get parts. A real pain when things go wrong, and they will go wrong. Dealer took it back and I bought the new Grom.

@ciscojulian5552

2 жыл бұрын

most apple products are assembled in China so are most of your computer motherboards and other electronic parts. China once ruled the world in years gone pass during the Klan Dynasty. I sold both of my 2014 Groms which had Takegawa 181-4v engine once I bought my first 2020 Benelli TNT 135. Where can you get 5 speed, 4v 135cc engine, onboard oil cooler, LED lights, and cool looking for a lot less price compared to the Grom.

@GrimYak

2 жыл бұрын

Sorry to break it to you, but most of your electronics may be assembled in china.

@whatsappscambot1802

2 жыл бұрын

The Chinese are pretty good at making electronics. They are not good at making motorcycles.

@nielsdebakker3283

2 жыл бұрын

@@whatsappscambot1802 They make tesla's ;)

Looks nice, and wouldn't mind the extra ponies. Not sure if there's a dealership in Colorado?

Nice looking bike but in the country that I live in, Grom parts are dirt cheap and plentiful. This includes a head with bigger valves (28/24) for $40, a block and piston upgrade (160cc) for another $40, a racing cam for $10, bigger injector for $12, higher flow exhaust $20 and ECU mapping for $15-$20. Everyone knows that Italian bikes are notorious for having loose tolerances and dirty assembly.

@connor3288

2 жыл бұрын

That's US dollars? What country are you in? The new Grom GP/SP and Spade 150 are most appealing to me, Grom looks great with the gold wheels. Know of any aftermarket companies for Spade 150? I only know of steadythrottle and mnnthbx.

@irocss85

2 жыл бұрын

@@connor3288 wouldn't you like to know. Lol. Me too........

@johnnie5wreckingyard

2 жыл бұрын

The only thing italian about this bike is the name

Benelli has been in the Philippines for a years already. They don’t sell well. Re sale value is bad, not much accessories, reliability is in question.

As a Benelli tnt135 owner, stock for stock it will beat the Z125 and Grom. Quality is actually really good. I have about 700 miles and average about 92mpg. The speedo has to be calibrated and the top speed is exactly 65. that is 5th gear on the limiter. It is super easy to work on. My biggest complaint is the total lack of under seat storage. Plan to shove your insurance and registration in your pocket or backpack.

@sargera1

Жыл бұрын

exhausr was derived from an f4 agusta how rhose 2 mini can beat itr lol

@jimdavidson5461

Жыл бұрын

So 18 from has higher top speed. Took mine to 70mph with slight downhill. Speedo corrected 100% true miles

@stever7627

Жыл бұрын

Insurance? Registration? What is that? 😇

@Skitzo00

Жыл бұрын

@@stever7627 🤣

@spammyhandles

Жыл бұрын

​@stever7627 No kidding. The fact that the government requires registration on a bike that legally isn't allowed on the highways. 🤔 My tabs for my grom were as much as my car. I live in Washington state where you can only ride in the sun three months out of the year. I have a grom and a Z that only go off road now or I roll dirty because the government can go eat a....

The dealership my son worked at sold the TNT. Every one they sold broke or fell apart.

My biggest concern with it is aftermarket support, and the fact it's a vertical upright bike. I'd feel confident in saying that at least 40% of enthusiasts who buy the Grom (notice I said enthusiasts and not COMMUTERS) are stunters or people who pick up the front tire even slightly from time to time to have fun with the bikes lightweight nature. Having an engine that is vertical like this may cause serious oil starvation to the pump depending on where it's located, we'll see.

@redbullpitbike

Жыл бұрын

More power lmao u ain’t seen any real grom builds then 55whp is possible

@johndough1703

10 ай бұрын

@@redbullpitbike 55??? I’m not saying you’re lying. I’m just saying I can’t wrap my head around 7 becoming 55 on the same block

@johndough1703

10 ай бұрын

Thank you for this comment. This is the info. I needed to make the proper decision. Grom it is.

@HWM636

9 ай бұрын

The oil pickup is in the rear so it can be stunted. Just needs a little extra oil put in. Check out Brian 636 review of this bike stunted out

@HWM636

9 ай бұрын

@johndough1703

Back in the day the Benelli Volcano was the hot ticket. Think of a Honda 50 frame with a hot 180cc two stroke. Italian made quality back in the 1980's

Honda I will take before I trust my life on that

That headlight looks familiar. Is it a Hecatonchires?

got one today! only complaint.... wooden brakes....faster than my trail 125...a bunch less cash to boot! Wife's bike....she sure is impressed...

I love my grom but a z125 or a tnt are fire as well

5:05 My OG grom does 62mph. At the high end of the rpm. If it had the 5sp. It would be nice. But I would trade mine for it. The styling is so sick

@ItalianMetalHED

2 жыл бұрын

My 22 grom shift light indicator flashes when I reach 55 but got up to 60 pinned

I got about 20k on mine no problems except my muffler mount broke and pipe cut into wires causing the fuse to blow. Finding parts and info is a bit of a problem but haven't had a grom pass me yet lol. The speedo is set wrong it will do 60 pinned.

Just bought a 2022 Grom SP. Quality. Mine will runs for years after this SSR falls apart.

@pauld.b7129

2 жыл бұрын

You know the grom is assembled in China right? Along with all the 300s and other small bikes.

Gpx (or pitster pro) adv190r would be my choice of the bikes in that class. Benelli looks really good though

That exhaust reminds me of mv agusta brutale.

I love the idea of these little bikes but I really would need it to be able to do 120 km/h without issue to be usable where I live since you have to take the freeway to get just about anywhere. If these mini bikes were 150cc instead they'd be a lot more usable, I think.

@intergalacticbasketballdro7186

2 жыл бұрын

For sure !

@pauld.b7129

2 жыл бұрын

You'd be surprised. If you use the "avoid highways" setting on Google maps, you'd be surprised how many B-roads there are in cities that can get you where you want to be. Sometimes faster than the highway if you get green lights. I used to ride a 250 in San Diego, but I never took the highway because I didn't wanna do 80mph all the time on it.

@Thirsty_Fox

2 жыл бұрын

@@pauld.b7129 Depends on the town. In my large Canadian city, you need to take either 80 km/h roads (people go 100) or the freeway to get anywhere in remotely decent time. The Grom is nearly fast enough flat out, but another little bit would really make it more useful.

@Thirsty_Fox

2 жыл бұрын

@Trevor Fluck It's just enough to make the difference of being able to take lots of the faster main roads. I don't think they offer the ADV150 here in Canada.

@just2botheru

2 жыл бұрын

TNT150? I'm not sure about reliability or accessibility, but it exist.

Does the plate sit on that rear wheel trim?

I've seen 63 on my 22 grom. I'm around 150 though.

Man that is much nice than both the Grom and Z125 💯 I bet it is somewhat cheaper too?

I started on a tnt300 actually not bad at all . Kinda sucks no parts have to order and wait a ton of time

Like the look of this bike but bought the Grom because I trust the Honda network

Really cool bike. My only issue is reliability over time . I will get a Grom over the Benelli because of spare parts and Honda's dealer network.

We need a grom 150 now

You know competition is fierce when , you talk down to decimal for hp..

You should look into getting a Honda Navi😃 The price is amazing and the parts are super affordable😃 plus it’s a Honda so you know it’s going to be reliable👍🏼

What center was the expo at?

I wonder if it’s the same Company as the gun maker? Very well made guns.

With gas prices going up everyday, its a good choice to have one of these for just going around town to run to local stores..........

Take this from someone who's bought in several cheap bikes and had trouble getting parts getting worked on go with the Honda you can have it fixed anywhere and it's a Honda top quality

Actually I'd like to know what that bike behind the TNT is. The one with the same color scheme but bigger.

how's this run against the kymco spade 150i ?

Out of curiosity, could someone ride this like on a 900 mile trip? Seems it goes fast enough or would the prolonged motor running at like 60-65 mph not be a good thing?

What kind of quad is that in the back ground?

Cool looking bike but tough to compare to the Grom and Z125…both proven reliable bikes. I’m a Honda guy but I’m looking hard at the Z125 due to the dealers wanting huge markups on anything Honda right now (especially Groms, Navis, and ADV150s)

What is the 4 wheeler beside it

If you’re talking Harley or a 1000 cc sport crotch rocket ‘styling’ is key, and I’ll admit it’s a real sporty looking small bike. But the Grom buyer pretty sure is most interested in reliability and conveniently located dealer network.

Yep I would

Its all depends on the aftermarket parts availability, machine pricing, sales support, resale value and budget of individual riders. Some are so tight budget that they go for china made cfmoto motorcycles or even taiwan made sym or kymco. You are not wrong about the benelli though. But any given day, i wont feel ashamed of riding taiwan made tgb delivery scooter instead of the bmw gs adventure. I dictate my ride instead of my ride dictate me. But of course my weekend ride are husqvarna 701 supermoto and yamaha vmax. To all riders around the world, im happy with whatever rides yall can afford. Just ride safe and dont forget to wave at me if i ever ride in your country and wave at you! Loves Hayliee.

I'd love to see this bike compared to a lifan kp mini 150cc

It's a nice bike. But the Grom is the symbol of mini bikes. And Honda is quality. It's like a original.

I have a Grom. It's the most expensive and most popular. Why's that? Aftermarket and build quality. And i put an intake and exhaust and it hits 65mph easily. My last Grom did 6,000mi of freeway. I've never seen a Benelli over 6,000mi even when babied. My 2015 stock Grom hit 72mph before the fuel cutoff.

What's that 4 wheeler in the background? ;)

How reliable would it be compared to the Honda?

Id spend the extra $400 on the grom. 1000% if you drop the grom or have issues, parts are super cheap and easy to fix.

It looks cool but the front turning lights are sticking out way to far from the head lights, they could break easily.

I'll still take a grom for the 250 or 300cc engine swap ease haha

Would you recommend over the Kawasaki Z125 Pro?

What about parts and service?