I like the fact that he didn’t hold back and he told you what to improve and how you can improve. Overall great video!

@Woodsaras

Жыл бұрын

The fk does Timbaland know, lol.

@akaashchandra3088

Жыл бұрын

@@Woodsaras you're kidding right

@prod.7aco194

Жыл бұрын

@@Woodsaras ??? Have you even heard of the dude

@Woodsaras

Жыл бұрын

@@akaashchandra3088 I'm not. His notes were abstract, subjective trash with no depth. Just because someone was successful at some point in time it sure dont mean they are a proper expert.

@Woodsaras

Жыл бұрын

@@prod.7aco194 yes, obviously

Oceans got wayyy better beats than what he displayed here

@blessdatrack4masssoundprod773

Жыл бұрын

Wat I said

@prodbysteve8783

Жыл бұрын

Agreed

@Sirenity01

Жыл бұрын

Facts tho

@Haku_records

Жыл бұрын

You are only as good as your worst beat.

@imgioni

Жыл бұрын

@@Haku_records i like this

honestly felt like you have better beats than what you showed him

@bluequest22

Жыл бұрын

Bruh 👀

@koalamusik

Жыл бұрын

word

@DrGuy118

Жыл бұрын

Honestly, T*m's music has been trash post Nelly Furtado... How in the f are you getting him to rate your music... His whole post Nelly Furtado catalog is all mid. I guess if the doorknob has clout, you're going to take his advice seriously.

@crazyace88

Жыл бұрын

@@DrGuy118 trash? Lol um ok.

@DrGuy118

Жыл бұрын

@@crazyace88 Without browsing wikipedia, or youtube, name one hot T*m song that was released since the the iphone 1 came out.

I like the willingness for Timbo to give back to a young producer like yourself. You humbly accepted his feedback and put it out there for the whole world to see. . It shows you seek growth on a level that keeps you grounded. Many blessings to you sir!

@bgallagrr

Жыл бұрын

He paid money for that feedback. Beat club ain't free.

@VX-cy4du

Жыл бұрын

He's not "giving back" anything, but yes, feedback is important.

@DrGuy118

Жыл бұрын

Honestly, T*m's music has been trash post Nelly Furtado... How in the f are you getting him to rate your music... His whole post Nelly Furtado catalog is all mid. I guess if the doorknob has clout, you're going to take his advice seriously.

@CuzzoTheGreat

Жыл бұрын

Honestly I'm honest

@ksager123

2 ай бұрын

​@@DrGuy118exactly

Its so crazy because its always the beats we actually love that when we let people hear them they usually dont like or pick them. They usually pick the ones we think are duds. It always happens that way.

@DrGuy118

Жыл бұрын

Honestly, T*m's music has been trash post Nelly Furtado... How in the f are you getting him to rate your music... His whole post Nelly Furtado catalog is all mid. I guess if the doorknob has clout, you're going to take his advice seriously.

@goingglobalmusicgroup2555

Жыл бұрын

That's why the beats you don't like should be the ones you pay attention to as beat makers. My inhouse producer always says so many artist didn't pick the beat I chose. I told him all artist don't hear the same thing fam. Just be creative and don't get caught in making what every else is making. If it feels good it is good on some James Brown!

@CuzzoTheGreat

Жыл бұрын

Honestly I'm honest

@eliv.o7105

Жыл бұрын

It those beats were shit…I wonder if he did that on purpose…Tim was being nice here

@nicholasjames5471

Жыл бұрын

Some producers produce to impress other producers, others make beats for rappers. I think most of the producers on KZread fall into the first category.

Inspiring how you show this basically unedited, its lowkey putting yourself up vulnearble and i think that's powerful.

@DrGuy118

Жыл бұрын

Honestly, T*m's music has been trash post Nelly Furtado... How in the f are you getting him to rate your music... His whole post Nelly Furtado catalog is all mid. I guess if the doorknob has clout, you're going to take his advice seriously.

@eskaylation

Жыл бұрын

@@DrGuy118 low can always learn from mid...

@DrGuy118

Жыл бұрын

@@eskaylation I'm sorry, but "your taste is trash" is not a constructive review... If you believe in talking to your students like this, you are well below mid.

@CuzzoTheGreat

Жыл бұрын

Honestly I'm honest

Жыл бұрын

EXACTLY!!!

Timbaland is also one of my fav producers so this is legendary!

@DrGuy118

Жыл бұрын

Honestly, T*m's music has been trash post Nelly Furtado... How in the f are you getting him to rate your music... His whole post Nelly Furtado catalog is all mid. I guess if the doorknob has clout, you're going to take his advice seriously.

@prodbysimbapounce

Жыл бұрын

@@DrGuy118 But this guy has been in the game longer than Ocean has been so if anyone should be taking advice from anyone it’s Timbaland

@DrGuy118

Жыл бұрын

@@prodbysimbapounce Metro Boomin is DEFINITELY a more accomplished producer than T*m, post Nelly Furtado, and he is probably a few years younger than Ocean... So if Metro says "I like that orchestral, cinematic trap" who are you going to listen to?

@prodbysimbapounce

Жыл бұрын

@@DrGuy118 or even Nick Mira he hasn’t been in the game long and he has multi platinum hits

@DrGuy118

Жыл бұрын

@@prodbysimbapounce The whole session seemed judgmental... It was like a g*y person saying "If you like straight people, you are trash." or a straight person saying "If you like g*y people, you are trash... Ask the producer questions... How did you come to this conclusion? What is this beat being used for? and then say "If you want to produce for x, you might want to make it less cinematic. If you want to produce for y, it's perfect how it is." He basically called his daw "weird" and inferior. What kind of nerdy sh*t did we just watch?

The moments where Timbaland just mumbles ocean's melodies with his mouth are just gold

@DrGuy118

Жыл бұрын

Honestly, T*m's music has been trash post Nelly Furtado... How in the f are you getting him to rate your music... His whole post Nelly Furtado catalog is all mid. I guess if the doorknob has clout, you're going to take his advice seriously.

@viggofagerstrom9262

Жыл бұрын

@@DrGuy118 He literally produced Amari by J cole in 2 minutes

@CuzzoTheGreat

Жыл бұрын

Honestly I'm honest

@IMaBeastDoWatDEn

Жыл бұрын

@@DrGuy118 he’s old now but he’s still a goat and knows a lot about music and can offer info

@DrGuy118

Жыл бұрын

@@IMaBeastDoWatDEn I'm not here to bash T*m... To me, he is literally my #1 hip hop producer. ... still though, if your daughters dance teacher were to call your daughters lucky leotard ugly, would you allow that to happen without any clap back just because she has GOAT status in her field?

That face of Ocean after getting disrespect on every beat😂😂.

@mrtnm121

Жыл бұрын

It's called criticism.

@endless1247

Жыл бұрын

@@mrtnm121 ngl i think hes trying to force criticism

@mrtnm121

Жыл бұрын

@@endless1247 Yeah, I saw that to, but you just gotta take it coz he's the OG.

@simpiderman

Жыл бұрын

At the end of the day I learnt something

@Usenabt

Жыл бұрын

@@endless1247 🥴 his criticism was 100%, I’m tryna think why he’d play these beats to Timbaland

Im so surprised with your beats selection. You've created WAY BETTER beats throughout the years. Im confused

@celesongo

Жыл бұрын

If you've made beats for 8 years then you're at the point where every beat you make has to be somewhat "good" = It shouldn't really matter what beats you play. Also I think its better to showcase your "generic" beats because thats what you're really making/selling most of the time. Ofc you might have a really good beat once in a while but showcasing them here wouldn't really help to improve Ocean if he wants to actually increase sales and stuff

@Sonaurea

Жыл бұрын

Thats a good point

@jazz9236

Жыл бұрын

What’s the point for timb to come on just to say his beats is fire..the point of playing wack beats is for promotion

@moog5260

Жыл бұрын

makes more sense to play something he can criticise the audience can benefit more.

@DrGuy118

Жыл бұрын

Honestly, T*m's music has been trash post Nelly Furtado... How in the f are you getting him to rate your music... His whole post Nelly Furtado catalog is all mid. I guess if the doorknob has clout, you're going to take his advice seriously.

Having the ability to have Timbaland critique your work regardless of whether he messing with it or not is a big achievement. Theres lessons for everyone in this video too! appreciate you sharing your journey with us every time 🙏

Yoo HUGE respect to you for sharing this with your community! I really appreciate that a lot cause normally you only see the "perfect" world of producers who are always winning etc. But this shows that in reality even if you are as good as Ocean you still have to take some failure to develop as an artist. Thanks! You helped me a lot with this video!

@DrGuy118

Жыл бұрын

Honestly, T*m's music has been trash post Nelly Furtado... How in the f are you getting him to rate your music... His whole post Nelly Furtado catalog is all mid. I guess if the doorknob has clout, you're going to take his advice seriously.

@OfficialFetzTV

Жыл бұрын

@@DrGuy118 excuse me??

The Daw doesn't matter just pick one of the top 3 FL Logic or Ableton and learn one. Timbaland saying Logic is only Good for vocals is a Big L "A Good Craftsman Never Blames His Tools"

@DJAUDIO1

Жыл бұрын

💯

@billybarrett272

Жыл бұрын

That’s the only thing that bothers me about his critique here. Throwing shade at DAW is crazy. Daw’s are just a foundation for a creator to build what they hear.

@DJAUDIO1

Жыл бұрын

@@billybarrett272 Exactly. Create heat, regardless of DAW. I see this in the DJ world, where DJs are always bickering over the superior DJ application, be it Serato, Rekordbox, Virtual DJ, Traktor, Algoriddim. The average person listening to music doesn't care which DAW a song was created in or what DJ application it was played thru, They just want to hear their favorite songs. Use what works best for you and keep it moving. Too much gatekeeping going on these days.

I love how involved Timbaland is with the underground. He truly out here to help up and coming artists. He’s always gone be one of my favourites

Good job bro👏🏾🎉 Look how far uve come from the beginning to now. Keep going and keep grinding u got hella love from ure community, nd your inspiring others along the way , thats whats its about!!

Thank you for sharing this Ocean…it shows you got grit and humility to ALWAYS improve…gives the younger generation something to look forward to…thank you!!!

@DrGuy118

Жыл бұрын

Honestly, T*m's music has been trash post Nelly Furtado... How in the f are you getting him to rate your music... His whole post Nelly Furtado catalog is all mid. I guess if the doorknob has clout, you're going to take his advice seriously.

Ocean gonna reach even greater heights than he has reached now. From going to his tiny studio in Manchester in 2020 to where he is at now, and where his new studio is. He is unstoppable, he will always keep pushing and thats what inspires us as your audience to keep pushing and grinding too. Thanks Ocean!

@DrGuy118

Жыл бұрын

Honestly, T*m's music has been trash post Nelly Furtado... How in the f are you getting him to rate your music... His whole post Nelly Furtado catalog is all mid. I guess if the doorknob has clout, you're going to take his advice seriously.

@CuzzoTheGreat

Жыл бұрын

Honestly I'm honest

Wow he was right on and straightforward and honest. Thats how you get someone better at their craft though. Can’t sugarcoat anything. You just have to be able to humble yourself and really take it in and see if the advice resonates. If it does make the corrections and keep pushing.

Honesty is key, I like that he's telling you what you don't want to hear, it's the best way forward! 🌟💜📈

Congrats bro, you did put yourself on the fya and aint get burned!!! this situation is the best way to improve, like be advised by someone like Timbo is dope, for sure you gonna grow alot after it!!!

Imagine getting in front of Timbaland and playing this out of all your beats

Bro this is crazy that we usually hear better beats from you than what you presented to Timbo but hey having those feedbacks from a such legend is sick. This is one step forward to becoming a greater producer than you already are. & this gives us the opportunity to hear what we can do to improve our production, like i already said in the pass, i wish to collab with you one day. Keep up the good work 🤙🏾

@DrGuy118

Жыл бұрын

Honestly, T*m's music has been trash post Nelly Furtado... How in the f are you getting him to rate your music... His whole post Nelly Furtado catalog is all mid. I guess if the doorknob has clout, you're going to take his advice seriously.

i really love his honesty with you, and that will kinda push the best of the heck producer in you to show up

Levels! Big up bro keep it pushing, u put the work in 💯

the zoom ins on timbaland face be havin me cryin

I think Tim was pretty spot on. He has a seasoned ear of over three decades. And even though the music scene has past his sound by and modern music sounds much different then his era. He still has a great ear. It takes a lot of guts to post a video like this. Big up to you.

so dope, alot of respect to have him in a Ft. i like how you showed off the not so usual beats to him for this video... kinda curious on the beats you showed him that he fucked with heavy. you make killer beats, and i know you had some in your arsenal that you shot out.

keep doing your thing, man. appreciate the rawness and vulnerability in sharing. You're an amazing artist NONETHELESS. Take what you need and go.

Honestly keep doing you. The artists will come to you. Not all beats need to be nor should be Timbaland approved.

@DrGuy118

Жыл бұрын

Honestly, T*m's music has been trash post Nelly Furtado... How in the f are you getting him to rate your music... His whole post Nelly Furtado catalog is all mid. I guess if the doorknob has clout, you're going to take his advice seriously.

@CuzzoTheGreat

Жыл бұрын

Honestly I'm honest

@qtippz

Жыл бұрын

Yeah those beats really don't need his approval. I've never really been a big Timbo fan especially in his later years. To me he's become that old guy in the room stuck on old ways that thinks they still got it or know what they're talking about. Times have changed and styles have also. Ocean could definitely find someone on any of those beats.

@DrGuy118

Жыл бұрын

@@qtippz Somebody give this man a Grammy for this comment... Plus, you can't really fully mix a song unless you have vocals on it, or else the song won't match with the vocals. Listen to this song kzread.info/dash/bejne/gKZt2ctxadrLpZs.html It's fairly straightforward beat... I am sure T*m would trash the beat, but the way it is mixed makes it my top 5 song in '22.

@79Glitch

Жыл бұрын

@@DrGuy118nah, he had the Timberlake album around the same time, and Shock Value had a lot of fire beats-I think I preferred that one over the the Timberlake and Furtado albums, just for the variety if nothing else. He was addicted to pain killers (OxyContin, I believe) shortly after that and almost died. So he lost a lot of time because of that, had to regain his health and sobriety, and then music changed to cutesy, teen tik tok trap music that all sounds like it was made by the same guy or A.I. bot. The guy still has a lot of knowledge, though. I would bet that he’ll still find a way to come out with something dope before it’s all said and done. I think he has one more classic in him, he’s just waiting for the right time and project.

I’ve been in this type of situation before. You tend to present your worst beats when the time comes to present something to the pros in the industries. And also one thing, we producers, the beat we like is usually the worst of all the beats we do. I don’t know why it’s always like that. The beat I don’t love among my beats and music in general is what people around me tend to move their body to. I totally understand what ocean was facing at this point

I love you ocean. I learned practically everything on logic from you and you’ve got pretty dope sounds that would have blow Timbo away. The world gonna recognize your great talent soon enough and great coaching by a mentor and icon timbs love❤

Respect to you and your grinding bro! Im always super honest even doe it might hurt its better to be honest. The problem with these beats you showed are that they are not unique, you are doing what has been done for 10 years or more. I think i almost recocginze all the drum sounds, and just starting there, record / pitch / combine your own drum sounds, or dig and find your own samples, otherwise you sound like 97% of all the beatmakers out there. There is to much of everything everywhere on the word wide web and to make good stuff one have to be unique, simply just being 100% yourself. Fins inspiration somewhere else than the music your going to make, travel, I dont know, hehe your own roots dig there. THere are milions of ways to explore and find a unique own sound. Avoid the comercial sample stations!!! God bless u bro, love your grind! big RESPECT

Damn, I felt nervous for you as you was playing him your beats. It must have felt like waiting for approval from your parents or something. Great vid tho

@ashwinniamat8560

Жыл бұрын

Why. He just a dude. They all are lmao.

@n0follow

Жыл бұрын

@@ashwinniamat8560 nope, for a producer Timbaland's opinion is worth more than just some dude's that's like a bball player looking up to lebron and you saying he's just some guy

@simpiderman

Жыл бұрын

@@ashwinniamat8560 Timbaland is what we all want to become. He is inspiration. Whenever I feel down, I listen to his podcasts. He inspired to many artists. His timbaland course made what I'm today. (That course was lit only for his interview).

@ashwinniamat8560

Жыл бұрын

@@simpiderman That's okay. But if you would ask timba, should you idolize of become unique. Guess what my man's gonna say. Ashwin is right. So that's what im referring to. To many clones out here.

@simpiderman

Жыл бұрын

@@ashwinniamat8560 taking inspiration and copying them is different thing

NAH DAWG THATS LEGENDARY THIS IS SO COOL Edit: just finished the video and damn what I would give to be able to have him coach me too that sounds really fun and also super informative

@RareTechniques

Жыл бұрын

because everything he says is str8 FAX lol, living legend

@DrGuy118

Жыл бұрын

Honestly, T*m's music has been trash post Nelly Furtado... How in the f are you getting him to rate your music... His whole post Nelly Furtado catalog is all mid. I guess if the doorknob has clout, you're going to take his advice seriously.

@prod.7aco194

Жыл бұрын

@@DrGuy118 you’re acting like I’m boutta take his word as completely law with no questions.. you can’t be surprised that I would want to take the opinion of one of the most influential and decorated producers of all time into account tho so yeah no shit I’m gonna take his advice seriously 😂

@DrGuy118

Жыл бұрын

@@prod.7aco194 Decorated 20 years ago... What have you done for me lately except shoot down some amazing ideas?

@prod.7aco194

Жыл бұрын

@@DrGuy118 bruh I don’t even know you you were the one who came into my comment being all hostile calling tim trash and even censoring his name like ????

Hey man, props to ocean for putting himself out there like that. There's a fine line between constructive criticism and completely deteriorating somebody's confidence in perfecting their craft. Timbaland is one of the best to ever do it and this criticism is more valuable than any piece of equipment money can buy. Keep pushing Brotha!!!

Love this content bro, it's dope that you put yourself out here like that.

i catch some of the beatclub streams from time to time and tim is very selective. good that he actually had a conversation and gave you some direction instead of just dismissing it like some of the things that get played for him.

@DrGuy118

Жыл бұрын

Honestly, T*m's music has been trash post Nelly Furtado... How in the f are you getting him to rate your music... His whole post Nelly Furtado catalog is all mid. I guess if the doorknob has clout, you're going to take his advice seriously.

@CuzzoTheGreat

Жыл бұрын

Honestly I'm honest

@matt-lv7jl

Жыл бұрын

@@DrGuy118 he produces some of the songs out there today but is behind the scenes, we only really hear about it if people start talking about it, e.g. when he made J Cole's "amari" beat live on twitch (and deleted it because it wasn't good enough for tim) and j cole contacted him for it and he had to remake it, we don't really hear much about what he does, but there's also a video of him with billie eilish and his producers playing some beats for her, so who knows what he does behind the scenes

@DrGuy118

Жыл бұрын

@@matt-lv7jl I really do not take offense or question T*m's ability to make a beat... I question his ability to handle his student with respect and to have an open mind.

Super proud to see this Ocean. Keep going bro!

@DrGuy118

Жыл бұрын

Honestly, T*m's music has been trash post Nelly Furtado... How in the f are you getting him to rate your music... His whole post Nelly Furtado catalog is all mid. I guess if the doorknob has clout, you're going to take his advice seriously.

It's always great to get feedback from a friend or fellow producer... it's even better that it was Timbo helping you out. Now I'm second guessing MY tag. lol I kinda ran into something similar while tryna make a reggaeton beat... where it sounded it good but something was missing cuz it just felt like I was tryna mesh two different genres. Add a lil percussion and speeding up the melody a little might help. Or like Timbaland said, try a different one. He's right though... you're getting there and that's dope. Keep doing big things Ocean.

Wow man he really put things in perspective. Everybody need to work things out. Sometimes it hurts to hear the truth, but if you put that behind yourself and really dig in and start experimenting it will change everything you do. I am going through this same thing and have been for a few years. I had to rework my melodies and drums. I use Ableton and the Akai Force to produce. So I had to rethink my workflow a little and come up with a smoother way for me to make less generic sounding stuff. It's not perfect, but I'm getting closer to finding my sound.

It's funny how we are judged by the pros, lol but this is art, you are actually seeking many opinions. Not from one person. Most people who listen to music just enjoy it. Those beats are 🔥and depends on who sing or rap on them that makes the hit song.

@Usenabt

Жыл бұрын

They aren’t 🔥🤦🏾‍♂️

@Erisbeatz

Жыл бұрын

@@Usenabt yeah.. I listen to a lot of top charting songs that beats not up the ones reviewed here.

@ShivamKumar-ip6sk

Жыл бұрын

@@Erisbeatz what he played was very generic bro, nothing new, if you take generic beats to a legendary producer, he is going to shit on it that's very obvious. Literally every drill beat sounds like the one here, literally every lil baby type beat sounds like the first beat. you gotta be unique man.

@Erisbeatz

Жыл бұрын

@@ShivamKumar-ip6sk agreed, But it doesn't mean if those beats are used by big names it won't be a hit, one thing is to be unique another is to be there.

@DrGuy118

Жыл бұрын

Honestly, T*m's music has been trash post Nelly Furtado... How in the f are you getting him to rate your music... His whole post Nelly Furtado catalog is all mid. I guess if the doorknob has clout, you're going to take his advice seriously.

I understand some may think of better beats however, I feel this feedback was super vital regardless of how the records sounded. We all know Ocean goes hard, so that same feedback he will apply to any of his records from here out. This was such a humbling experience and you earned it Ocean!!💯

I think you did great Ocean, keep pushing and elevating your sound. 💖

This was really cool to see. In a clout chasing world often times I see to many 🔥 emojis to the most basic beats more so because that person wants to get recognized by whoever’s post they’re commenting on, or just want to boost that persons ego. This also goes to show you can do this full time and still have a lot to learn and improve on. To be fair, I don’t think these are the best beats I’ve heard from you, but I applaud you for uploading this and being transparent that we’re all on a journey and gotta grow everyday! Huge W regardless man Timbo the GOAT

Yo! that was amazing. I guarantee with no doubt in my mind you are going to get 100 times better. Logic is my favorite daw but Ableton and Fl Drum just hit differently, Sometime you have to get off your comfort zone

@sandmanlopez9920

Жыл бұрын

Wow 😯

@giano6343

Жыл бұрын

WTF since when drums hit different on different daws. Never heard stupid stuff like this

he just didnt tell you something that you wanna hear but something you HAVE TO hear. That was cool and it showed that he really want to help you

extremely useful feedback i must say. you can hear each of the suggestions/problems he pinpointed. and sure, you can agree or disagree but the main point is to use his ability to dissect and hear the complete track and its parts in other contexts in his head, instantaneously. It forces you to really think of what you are doing.

Ocean gonna be the upcoming taking it over, big ups to wanting to sement your craft through tough fires!

The beats are very good. Timbo just likes to be a super coach. Ocean, you dont need to get those negative comments too serious. Great beats👍

@prodbyocean

Жыл бұрын

Ofc! It’s all love, +ve criticism

@garycummingsjr.6896

Жыл бұрын

Nah ocean take the lessons. Only weak people see it as negative or hate. He paid his dues.

@doncheadle898

Жыл бұрын

weak mindset

@DrGuy118

Жыл бұрын

Honestly, T*m's music has been trash post Nelly Furtado... How in the f are you getting him to rate your music... His whole post Nelly Furtado catalog is all mid. I guess if the doorknob has clout, you're going to take his advice seriously.

@CuzzoTheGreat

Жыл бұрын

Honestly I'm honest

Timbaland just doesn't like logic! 🤣 But I loved the third beat and the last beat. Proud of my boy Ocean, well done! 💪🏽🔥🔥🔥

I can’t wait to hear ocean new stuff after this 💪🏾

Nice of you putting this online man. It's nice to have The one and only Mr Timbaland reviewing your songs and giving tips on how to improve yourself. Great stuff! And I know what he means because I always have the same problem with my beats, the Melodies are too much and they need to give more air for a rapper to rap on it. Same as in a band everyone needs to give space for the other instruments. Thanks for putting this online, helps a lot!

@DrGuy118

Жыл бұрын

Honestly, T*m's music has been trash post Nelly Furtado... How in the f are you getting him to rate your music... His whole post Nelly Furtado catalog is all mid. I guess if the doorknob has clout, you're going to take his advice seriously.

Everything happens for a reason my bro. Maybe you weren’t meant to show him your best beats for a bigger reason and to just make you a better producer. Because I’ll echo what everyone else is saying here that you have muchhhh better songs than what you displayed to him but sometimes we can all get things out of perspective on our art. Either way this is legendary that you were able to have this experience. Keep doin your thing homie you’re crushin it 🙏🏼💪🏼

Bruh this is legendary, Simon is gonna be pissed😂,that’s his fav producer

Timbaland said "Too Rockyish" haha. I really enjoy your channel, and I do like these beats for real - great work. I'm a fan of big instrumentation which I tend to lean into at time with my productions as well. His feedback is great - I will say definitely aimed for MCs. That's the tough part, picking something you are proud of but also want to lead with your best artwork from the listener's perspective. It's really hard to pick! You probably have hundreds of awesome beats in the wings and knowing which ones will be the top is tough...I felt nervous for you haha. Keep it up though, great work and it says a lot about you willing to expose critique and be humble in doing so. Awesome stuff Ocean.

First , thank you for sharing this with us. secondly, I like how you took the criticism positively to enable you be more good at your craft. Thirdly, This channel is 🔥

@DrGuy118

Жыл бұрын

Honestly, T*m's music has been trash post Nelly Furtado... How in the f are you getting him to rate your music... His whole post Nelly Furtado catalog is all mid. I guess if the doorknob has clout, you're going to take his advice seriously.

@CuzzoTheGreat

Жыл бұрын

Honestly I'm honest

Nice to see Tim put you in the right direction much respect

Love this! Thank you for sharing. Many people dont want to see others that where they could improve.

My Guy Ocean is Dope. Being able to Handle both Constructive criticism and Subjective input is the fuel that u need for the fire to burn Cancel

Well the truth is bitter, the GOAT was right. If he'd played the beat for like small producers we'd be like 🔥🔥😤.

I’ve been watching you since I started producing two years ago!You’re an amazing producer and I’m excited to continue to see your journey and growth. I love the feedback TIMBALANDD gave cause that’s the only way we get even better. I do feel like you have better beats tho 😅 flowers to you Ocean, sending love from nyc 🔥

@DrGuy118

Жыл бұрын

Honestly, T*m's music has been trash post Nelly Furtado... How in the f are you getting him to rate your music... His whole post Nelly Furtado catalog is all mid. I guess if the doorknob has clout, you're going to take his advice seriously.

@DrGuy118

Жыл бұрын

@@garysyoutube T*m is an amazing artist... I just feel that a few comments he made, he had no right to make... Other than that, he is a stellar producer.

Keep doing your thing, Ocean. I think you’re beats are sick even though I’m an underground conscious hip-hop head who likes Boom Bap and can’t stand drill and trap. Reggaeton is awesome though. Me gusta reggaeton mi amigo. It’s very competitive in general. You’re doing very well though!

Respect to you Ocean for letting Timbo hear your beats. That’s how you get better man. Wish you nothing but success in 2023.

3:47 i don’t think it‘s too „cinematic“ or not even „outdated“ as Timbaland says. @ocean just check out the German rapper LUCIANO with his newest album „MAJESTIC“. this is definitely a beat that he‘d rocked and also nearly all beats from this album are like yours. I love it bro!

"I dont hear no song over it" alot of beat makers tend to forget that 🔑

@spartanghost_17

Жыл бұрын

Exactly they get lost in making cool noise that nobody can make songs on. I'm shocked ocean only played trash beats on this. He has way better stuff

Damn well i respect him keeping it real and explaining things and how to make each track better. You gonna switch to FL or ableton or you already too deep and comfortable in Logic? Never used Logic but i know some of favorite producers do like Backwhen and Marsh

love wht u do ocean keep it up

Logic Gang! Ocean and Timberland 🔥🔥🔥🔥

@Silence867

Жыл бұрын

uncomfy shoes

Nah the drill beat was on point - it’s all about who you work with for one like that

The best about this is that you shared it with us. True!

Bro this is intense man lol Ngl Ocean I’ve heard you make wavier beats than what you showed Timbo man!?! Wagwan?!

Do you think that part of this is that you and Timbaland have very different styles? I’m surprised at the selection you played him vs the other beats you’ve put up on your videos in the past that I think would have resonated with him more.

Goat for getting the Timbaland collab

You know what even having timberland roast your beats is a level most people will never get to keep going bro I’ll see you at the top

Ocean my G! The patience and how he kept his cool as his beats were being criticised.... True master .... Patience is key

Keep doing what your doing Ocean. Take Timbaland’s advice and apply it to Logic. Let this experience guide you to become a better producer!

To my ear, I see a career in sync and film music with Ocean. Everyone has a niche.

@unpublicized

Жыл бұрын

fax i feel like his beats are a bit too conventional for rap songs today at least, not to take anything away from him though.

Ocean did awesome on his beats. An that was awesome how he got trained or coach from another professional. Love the video. 1:26

I learnt so much from this. Thank you for your willingness to have him critique your beats. I can now see all the areas where I need to improve myself. It really is a process.

Ik ocean was crushed when Timb said to take his tag out 😭

@ahmeg.

Жыл бұрын

💀

@sebastianramirez2102

Жыл бұрын

na 😭😭

This is dope as hell but I think you for sure have better beats lol But I guess the point wasn't to impress him but to get meaningful feedback on your weaker areas. Shout out to you my boi!

Respect for putting this up man. Heed Timbo’s advice! Dude is the OG for a reason. You’re already great at what you do, but you’re gonna evolve even more now. That being said, can’t lie when I say this is motivating me to pick up Ableton as well since I’m starting to incorporate more FL into my workflow

@DrGuy118

Жыл бұрын

Honestly, T*m's music has been trash post Nelly Furtado... How in the f are you getting him to rate your music... His whole post Nelly Furtado catalog is all mid. I guess if the doorknob has clout, you're going to take his advice seriously.

@KhalifBeats

Жыл бұрын

@@DrGuy118 smh lol

I think these advices are super boost for your career. Good luck!

I feel like you’ve made way better beats then the ones shown in the video.

It's all a matter of opinion. Timbaland can say "oh you need to keep it simple" but then go listen to his beat from "Ayo Technology" 50 Cent Feat. Justin Timberlake. It's like, he's critiquing because he's supposed to. Because if someone like Metro Boomin played him these exact beats he would be nodding his head like crazy saying how fire they are. Of course, it's Timbaland and his opinion is very valued in the field. But like I said he has to critique because Ocean is up and coming and he's a legend, I get it. But like I said if an established mainstream famous producer played these same beats he'd be singing their praises. So it's hard for me to really value his opinion too much.

Only gana make you better bro like the honesty tho keep going bless up

I smiled and was so happy every time Timbo was like, "You got another beat?"

Ocean was trollin 😂

@sebastianramirez2102

Жыл бұрын

😂

@TheCrazySquirell

Жыл бұрын

Only explaination, some of them beats sounded like a year 11 made them in GCSE Music... Nothing like some of the stuff he's put out.

@humblemindsmusic4878

Жыл бұрын

idk a lot of producers out here don't know that the beats they think are the best are the worst ones. trust me this is me sometimes.

just saying ocean u have better beats any reason for picking these?

@NainzSiki

Жыл бұрын

tru bruh

@tabibyte

Жыл бұрын

why show good ones for criticism though

@makerbreaker6384

Жыл бұрын

@@tabibyteso you can be critiqued on your best work, if you're displaying mid and you know why it's mid then why even show it

@tabibyte

Жыл бұрын

​@@makerbreaker6384 sometimes there are beats that doesn't hit hard and you dont know what you can improve on

would be great to get a follow up video and share your thoughts on what Timbo said if in anyway thing it changes your approach when producing. also would have been great if you pushed him on what his beef with logic is?

it must feel great to have somebody like timbaland to listen and give feedback about your music. I been watching your vids since 2019, I no longer use logic but you taught me the basics of producing! forever grateful

@DrGuy118

Жыл бұрын

Honestly, T*m's music has been trash post Nelly Furtado... How in the f are you getting him to rate your music... His whole post Nelly Furtado catalog is all mid. I guess if the doorknob has clout, you're going to take his advice seriously.

@mtuncrr

Жыл бұрын

@@DrGuy118 not that deep for me bruh. I aint listen to no timbaland record except ones with 50 and shii. Im 22 and didnt grow up to timba music. But I know he is a respected og in the game. love

@DrGuy118

Жыл бұрын

@@mtuncrr crazy name man. 🍼🤦🏾‍♂Wockpharma, lol I love T*m, I just feel he can talk to the students with a little more respect...

He really roasted it🥶

i have never heard a really good ocean beat....its awesome he has a channel to help others but aint no way he was ready for that.

@kostoglotow

Жыл бұрын

yeah he ok, but nothing mind blowing; even in the YT scene I always felt his stuff kinda mid tbh.

This was pretty cool man. How did you get a piece of Mr. Mosleys time?

Nahh that last beat was fire no cap, keep this shi up dawgie

LMAO OCEAN WAS TRYING SOO HARDD NOT TO LAUGH

@jaystonn

Жыл бұрын

I though I was the only one who noticed 🤣🤣

Ocean said let me pick my most ass beats to show this man

I remember when I sent my first beat to Timbo, he's being honest. and as much as we want to be creative and use what ever sound we want to use; sometimes we walk all over the idea that maybe the sound doesn't fit or the melody. When I hear "the melody doesn't fit, the first thing I think of is" the track is lacking syncopation. Keep rockin 🙌🏾

He knows so much about music bro he is the master 🙌 🙏 God bless you both ocean 🙏

Tim doesn't like logic lol