Tim Holtz Stamp Platform Vs MISTI

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After receiving the Tonic Studios Tim Holtz Stamp Platform I wanted to compare it to the MISTI and see which one was the better stamp positioning tool. I put the two head to head and see what are the pro and cons of both. Which one will I choose as the winner?
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  • @gabbyg561
    @gabbyg5615 жыл бұрын

    What I liked about this video is he got right to the point of the differences, and spoke in a clear understandable voice. He also did a short demonstration of how they both work. Great video! 👍

  • @OffKilterCrafterIan

    @OffKilterCrafterIan

    5 жыл бұрын

    Thank you so Much for your compliments.

  • @ShoshiPlatypus
    @ShoshiPlatypus4 жыл бұрын

    I bought the TH Platform and love it. I had looked at the Misti and didn’t like the look of it - it looked flimsy and cheap, and when I saw the price, I said to myself, “forget it.” I know a lot of people swear by the Misti but I think the TH one is better all round - robust, reasonably priced, easy to use, and it looks much nicer! This is a good review.

  • @LoisDiCicco
    @LoisDiCicco Жыл бұрын

    Thank you for this concise review of each platform. Exactly what I was looking for. I made my purchase of the Tim Holtz today!

  • @OffKilterCrafterIan

    @OffKilterCrafterIan

    Жыл бұрын

    You are welcome!

  • @fionawalker8184
    @fionawalker81844 жыл бұрын

    Thank you I'm was wanting to know which one to buy and this was very helpful.

  • @OffKilterCrafterIan

    @OffKilterCrafterIan

    Жыл бұрын

    Glad it was helpful!

  • @pammipayne3334
    @pammipayne33344 жыл бұрын

    Bought my first stamping platform today. Amazon Prime £23.60 Tim Holtz Stamping platform. I researched all the others and for me the Tim Holtz was decently priced and it had the best stamping area in my opinion. Thanks for doing this video. So glad I made the right choice. Happy crafting everyone.

  • @OffKilterCrafterIan

    @OffKilterCrafterIan

    4 жыл бұрын

    I’m so glad to hear you liked my review.

  • @violethastings6058
    @violethastings605810 ай бұрын

    Do I dare tell you that until today when I stumbled on your video...I had NO CLUE I could use rubber stamps in my Tim H platform. Seriously...you made my day!!

  • @OffKilterCrafterIan

    @OffKilterCrafterIan

    10 ай бұрын

    Glad I could help! Hope you enjoy the new found ability of your tool. 😁

  • @ruthbrown-eubanks9093
    @ruthbrown-eubanks90934 жыл бұрын

    Thanks, will be buying the Tim Holtz one.

  • @melissamurata3094
    @melissamurata30945 жыл бұрын

    Thanks so much for your comparison video of these two products. I’m just getting back into stamping and had no idea which one would be better? I agree that the Tim Holt’s stamp platform is more practical and definitely more price friendly. Your video was very helpful!

  • @OffKilterCrafterIan

    @OffKilterCrafterIan

    5 жыл бұрын

    So glad to hear you found my video to be helpful.

  • @tracythurnau8943
    @tracythurnau89436 жыл бұрын

    Thank you so much for posting this review!! I had been wanting a MISTI stamp platform for a while, and then saw the difference in the prices of each one. I just received my Tonic Tim Holtz platform, and I haven't had a chance to use it yet. I'm so glad; it looks like I made the right choice!

  • @OffKilterCrafterIan

    @OffKilterCrafterIan

    6 жыл бұрын

    You made a great choice. Let me know how you like it once you use it.

  • @Artmuse2011
    @Artmuse20116 жыл бұрын

    Thks for sharing. I have both and appreciate both designs.

  • @OffKilterCrafterIan

    @OffKilterCrafterIan

    6 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for watching.

  • @CraftedByChristyShop
    @CraftedByChristyShop3 ай бұрын

    I know this is an older video, but seriously, your video was exactly what I needed to see. Your comparison was precise, to the point, and showed everything I was curious about. Thank you!!❤😊😊

  • @OffKilterCrafterIan

    @OffKilterCrafterIan

    3 ай бұрын

    Glad it was helpful!

  • @notevenalittle8363
    @notevenalittle83639 ай бұрын

    Finally! Someone who is not afraid to say what he prefers. I have been wanting to buy something and everyone seems to run afraid from My Sweet Petunia because she is so litigious. Thank you. If I can find one, Tonic, Tim Holtz it will be.

  • @OffKilterCrafterIan

    @OffKilterCrafterIan

    9 ай бұрын

    I hope you can find one!

  • @LisaJensen-fg6jg

    @LisaJensen-fg6jg

    Ай бұрын

    Amazon

  • @Joconnor2973
    @Joconnor29737 жыл бұрын

    I did not buy the Misti because of its price. So glad I waited! Loving the TH Platform!!

  • @OffKilterCrafterIan

    @OffKilterCrafterIan

    7 жыл бұрын

    I wish I had waited.

  • @mariejones726
    @mariejones7266 жыл бұрын

    Thank you for the information and not having unnecessary conversation while doing your demonstrations. I am glad I came across this demonstration. I was about to buy the Misti stamper,but the price was too much for my budget so I was holding off for a sale. I will be purchasing the Tim Holtz thanks to this video.

  • @OffKilterCrafterIan

    @OffKilterCrafterIan

    6 жыл бұрын

    +Marie Jones I’m glad to hear you’ll be getting it. You will be happy you did.

  • @tjconkey9864
    @tjconkey98646 жыл бұрын

    Thank you for the review. We are brand new to stamping and this video review has helped us to decide which one to buy right from the start. :)

  • @OffKilterCrafterIan

    @OffKilterCrafterIan

    6 жыл бұрын

    I’m so glad to hear my review helped. I hope you enjoy it as much as I enjoy using mine.

  • @bubbanme4
    @bubbanme46 жыл бұрын

    Fantastic review! Thank you for creating and sharing this video.

  • @OffKilterCrafterIan

    @OffKilterCrafterIan

    6 жыл бұрын

    You are welcome. I am so glad to hear you enjoyed it!

  • @Evelyn-gi2ky
    @Evelyn-gi2ky6 жыл бұрын

    Great comparison video! I am making the switch! Thanks for helping me make that decision.

  • @OffKilterCrafterIan

    @OffKilterCrafterIan

    6 жыл бұрын

    +Evelyn Quast Glad to hear my video helped you make the switch.

  • @traceybradshaw6558
    @traceybradshaw65587 жыл бұрын

    Thank you Ian, I am a brand new subscriber to your channel, but For what I have seen so far I am going to be here quite often. Great job on the comparison.

  • @OffKilterCrafterIan

    @OffKilterCrafterIan

    7 жыл бұрын

    +Tracey Bradshaw Thank you for subscribing! I really hope you enjoy my future videos. I always love to hear from you in the comments of each video.

  • @lisadavis4807
    @lisadavis48077 жыл бұрын

    Thanks Ian. Great comparison and I totally agree! Nice to support a company that stands by their products!

  • @OffKilterCrafterIan

    @OffKilterCrafterIan

    7 жыл бұрын

    I agree too.

  • @OakwildeDesigns
    @OakwildeDesigns7 жыл бұрын

    Totally agree with you. Great review. I'm gifting my mini misti away. Love the Tonic platform! I'm so grateful Tim was able to bring it to us. 😃

  • @OffKilterCrafterIan

    @OffKilterCrafterIan

    7 жыл бұрын

    I after for such a great price too.

  • @bridget22868
    @bridget228684 жыл бұрын

    I’m making the switch!! Thanks for sharing.

  • @OffKilterCrafterIan

    @OffKilterCrafterIan

    Жыл бұрын

    Hope you enjoy it!

  • @avidscrapper1
    @avidscrapper14 жыл бұрын

    Thanks so much for this review. I agree with your decision.

  • @OffKilterCrafterIan

    @OffKilterCrafterIan

    Жыл бұрын

    My pleasure!

  • @beaconoflight37
    @beaconoflight376 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for the detailed review. I have the MISTY and was interested in the Tim Holtz Platform. Your information was very helpful.

  • @OffKilterCrafterIan

    @OffKilterCrafterIan

    6 жыл бұрын

    +beaconoflight37 I’m glad my information could help.

  • @grouchostarx531
    @grouchostarx5316 жыл бұрын

    I think it's a shame that My Sweet Petunia has been able to get away with claiming that the MISTI is an original invention. Although printing presses have been around for centuries, a man named J.B. Lieberman is the one who actually invented the personal printing press (which is essentially what a MISTI is) and called it the Herity Press. J.B. Lieberman was actually such a purveyor of personal printing that he wrote a book about printing as a hobby, and even had a printing club. He even went so far as to have his personal printing press patented, and you can still view the patent (along with J.B.'s detailed diagrams of the press, so you can see how obviously similar the MISTI is to it) on Google's patent database. Iliana, a.k.a. My Sweet Petunia, has basically stolen his invention and claimed it as her own, and then was able to get a court (who is undoubtedly ignorant of the original invention) to support her claim. All of this in addition to her reputation regarding her unprofessional treatment of customers in the past, which I will not delve into right now. Long story long, I will never buy anything from her.

  • @OffKilterCrafterIan

    @OffKilterCrafterIan

    6 жыл бұрын

    +Alegra Kuiper My goodness! I didn’t know all of that about the MISTI creator.

  • @mcescher1957

    @mcescher1957

    5 жыл бұрын

    Totally agree Alegra! That woman is a real piece of work. My blood boils every time I see a craft influencer go on and on about this "fantastic" invention. The fact that she then tries to pass herself off as a christian gives me an additional bad taste in my mouth.

  • @nenaduran24

    @nenaduran24

    5 жыл бұрын

    i think what is remarkable about the fact is that sweet petunia brought back a good invention and modernizied to get into the world of crafts, and i enjoyed it every time i use it. that`s what is good about it, and above all that is a wonderful tool. Instead of worrying who invented it, why don`t people invent or re - invent other tools we may use as well.....

  • @elizabetheddy1073

    @elizabetheddy1073

    5 жыл бұрын

    Allegra, I totally agree with you! There are other companies like Stampin’ Up! that have also made stamping tools similar to Tim Holtz and the Misti!! I don’t understand why sweet petunia isn’t suing Stampin’ Up too?! LOL 😂 I think that the owner of The Misti is upset because Tim Holtz’s price is so much more affordable, bigger and better than what she “invented”!!! It’s ridiculous, everyone in this industry and others come up with similar stamps, inks ect. Tim Holtz rocks, he has a great personality, and has come up with such amazing products! 💗👍🏼 Like they all say, “karma’s a bitch!” What goes around comes around! Thanks for the info, I had no idea about the original inventor?! PS This just goes to show you how much class Tim Holtz actually has! Maybe that’s why he’s so much more successful than she’ll ever be!😊💗👍🏼

  • @lizziedae91

    @lizziedae91

    5 жыл бұрын

    That’s just not how patent law works

  • @monica5397
    @monica53976 жыл бұрын

    Just ordered the Tim Holtz Stamp Platform today and can't wait to use it!!

  • @SUSSDUE
    @SUSSDUE7 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for this video! I saw the Misti in a video some months back and wanted one but the price.....!!!! So I found an online video that shared how to use an IKEA frame to do a stamping tool yourself. So I made one ( I am Swedish after all;-)!) and have really liked using it. The cost came down to around ten dollars. The problem, as with the Misti comes when I want to stamp on larger papers. So I will definitely go for a TH platform now thanks to your clear and good review!

  • @OffKilterCrafterIan

    @OffKilterCrafterIan

    7 жыл бұрын

    I love the fact that the Tim Holtz Stamp Platform lets you get bigger papers in. I can't stop talking about how much I love this tool.

  • @mandibluscraps3896
    @mandibluscraps38965 жыл бұрын

    I do have a Tim Holtz version. Love it. I never even looked at the Misti....over priced for one. Two....I dont buy from people claiming to be Christian, throwing it out there to get business then turning around and being so very rude and hateful to people via social media, etc. Being a Christian shouldn't need to be said, people should see it in your actions and how you treat others.

  • @PrettyPlanWithMe
    @PrettyPlanWithMe5 жыл бұрын

    Awesome Review. I'm glad I got the Tim Holtz. Tfs 😊

  • @bettelovelace4456
    @bettelovelace44566 жыл бұрын

    Thanks Ian .. we’re about to order so glad for your info💜

  • @OffKilterCrafterIan

    @OffKilterCrafterIan

    6 жыл бұрын

    Glad to hear it. You will enjoy it!

  • @Crazy4Crafting50
    @Crazy4Crafting506 жыл бұрын

    I loved this! Thank you! I was wanting a Misti for over a year, since seeing it on Jennifer McGuires channel. However, when Joann Fabrics was having their spring sale a month ago, the Tim Holtz stamp platform was about 35% off so I bought that instead. I'm so glad I did! It's a much better tool by far, after seeing the Misti up close in your video. I didn't realize the acrylic top on the Misti was so flimzy! Wow! I'm really happy with my choice now! Thank you!

  • @OffKilterCrafterIan

    @OffKilterCrafterIan

    6 жыл бұрын

    Glad to hear your happy with your choice. Thanks for watching my video.

  • @jmgs24lady
    @jmgs24lady6 жыл бұрын

    Hi Ian! I just got my TH Stamp Platform, and have been playing with it today....I LOVE IT!!!! OH.MY.GOODNESS!!! IT. IS. AWESOME! I cannot say enough good things about it. The quality of Tim Holtz products, at HALF the price....(that just makes me sad) is second to none!

  • @OffKilterCrafterIan

    @OffKilterCrafterIan

    6 жыл бұрын

    I'm glad you are enjoying your Stamp Platform.

  • @SophieDuncan
    @SophieDuncan7 жыл бұрын

    Great review. I have always held off from buying a MISTI due to the exorbitant price, so I was so happy when I started to see reviews for the Tonic platform. I bought one last week and I love it! :)

  • @OffKilterCrafterIan

    @OffKilterCrafterIan

    7 жыл бұрын

    Woohoo! Glad you got it.

  • @craftylittlerthings
    @craftylittlerthings6 жыл бұрын

    Hi I’m a new subbie, when the Misti come out, I so so wanted it, but the price was way beyond my means, so I started to save. Then something else come up and I had to use the money I had. (Just thought I’d say I’m not a kid I’m almost 60 and been crafting since I was 3) so house and family have to come before crafting. But I could still stamp the old way so I could wait........then the Tim Holtz come out, as soon as I saw it I knew it was for me, so I changed from the Misti in my mind! A wee while later I was looking at a craft magazine, they were offering the Tim Holtz one as a gift for subscribing to the magazine, well I’m disabled and can’t always get out to get my fav mag, so was looking for the best deal in the mags I like (I like them all lol) so this was manna from heaven.......so I got my Tim Holtz AND my fav mag that I pay for each quarter, so what could be better.......nothing, I love it, I’d fight to keep it if I had to lol, now I’m looking at all his stuff, they are such great value, I think that is because he is a crafter and a normal guy who loves what he does and loves to share, he gets out there showing what he has, not like a lot of others hiding behind the name of a company. So I think you could say, this oldie is a Tim Holtz fan!!! I watched this because I find it interesting the comparison videos, and also male crafters, we need more of them on the tube, they have different ideas a lot of the time.....so I’m off to see what else you have done, I know this was last year so am hoping there is some goodies to watch! Huggles xxxAnnxxx in Uk 🇬🇧 .

  • @OffKilterCrafterIan

    @OffKilterCrafterIan

    6 жыл бұрын

    Ann thank you so much for the wonderful words about this video. I really do hope you enjoy my other videos and please comment on my videos letting me know what you thought or if you have any questions. So glad to hear you got the Tim Holtz's stamp platform and I so happy to hear you love it. I use mine SO much!

  • @anotsocraftycrafter
    @anotsocraftycrafter7 жыл бұрын

    Hi, new subscriber here. I LOVED this review. I appreciate how you shared using a larger sized piece of paper, and how it worked, especially with the Misti. I will be biting the bullet and grabbing a TH platform. I did purchase the WRMK stamp tool, and its ok, but as I learn and grow, I want better quality tools. And we ALL love TH products.. Thanks for all the info!!

  • @OffKilterCrafterIan

    @OffKilterCrafterIan

    7 жыл бұрын

    +Susan Humphreys Glad you found this video to be helpful. Also, thank you for subscribing. I hope you enjoy my future videos.

  • @Crafty-xy4or
    @Crafty-xy4or5 жыл бұрын

    I just order the TH traveler stamp platform and can't wait for it to get here! As I was looking for a stamp platform, I came across the misti and I wear my heart skipped a beat at the price! Never will I ever pay that much for a stamp aid! Id rather spend the money on art and craft supplies where i get more bang for my buck! Seeing that Tim and Tonic came out with their own design (which looks more professional) I was so happy and could wait to get it! Things came up and I couldn't get it right away and now hearing that it's being discontinued I jumped on it paying $25.00 on the Wal-Mart app. I don't see how people have issues with stamping with TH unless their stamp is too close to the raised edges or too close to the magnets. I dont like stamping on foam unless im stamping in my art journal which I have an old mouse pad for that reason. Seeing how raised all 3 edges of the misti are would bother the check out of me because I can see the paper bending and wrinkling like you had happen and also since the paper isn't flat all around, makes it seem easier to hit and mess up plus are you really going to get a 2nd press correctly with the paper bending like that? I don't think so. Also just by looking at the misti it looks like a diy picture frame one with the 3 rulers looking like they're pieced together instead of one piece, the stamping glass looks really cheap and if hit on a soft spot could cause it to crack or break into pieces even. I just think for $80 probably plus shipping it should look totally more professional made and not have all 3 sides raised so much. Now comes to the fact that i don't understand how misti can sue TH and Tonic as they are 2 completely different designs but just serve the same purpose. To me that's like Velveeta suing Kraft. 2 different recipes but they're both mac n cheese. To me that's beyond petty and THE MAJOR reason im so glad I didn't get a cheaper smaller sized misti.

  • @OffKilterCrafterIan

    @OffKilterCrafterIan

    5 жыл бұрын

    I like the analogy of the recipes. Good job!

  • @thebiscuitscraps
    @thebiscuitscraps6 жыл бұрын

    Great review! Thanks. Love the shirt!

  • @OffKilterCrafterIan

    @OffKilterCrafterIan

    6 жыл бұрын

    Thank you on both accounts!

  • @nancykelley1251
    @nancykelley12512 жыл бұрын

    I’m waiting on my Tim Holtz to be delivered! Now I’m MORE excited!

  • @OffKilterCrafterIan

    @OffKilterCrafterIan

    Жыл бұрын

    Awesome!

  • @shadowguard3578
    @shadowguard35783 жыл бұрын

    Useful video, thanks, even though I ordered the TH stamping tool last week from Amazon and it’s coming from the UK, it’s good to see a video reinforcing my belief that I made the right choice. My TH stamping tool is arriving this week and I can’t wait. I’m terrible at stamping with acrylic blocks. I’ve dropped them too many times on to my ink blended backgrounds with an inked stamp attached, and ruined the background, or the image or sentiment I stamped was incomplete and I find it impossible to restamp an image with acrylic blocks. On principle I refused to buy a Misti because the company sued competitors, and the ridiculous price point also put me off. Two pieces of plastic with a hinge for almost twice the price of a TH platform, is absurd. Anyway, no more stamping errors for me!

  • @OffKilterCrafterIan

    @OffKilterCrafterIan

    Жыл бұрын

    👍🏻

  • @Yvon748
    @Yvon7487 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for the review. I love them both for different reasons--- Leaning towards the Tonic more.

  • @OffKilterCrafterIan

    @OffKilterCrafterIan

    7 жыл бұрын

    It's a good way to lean ;-)

  • @bettyjohnson1365
    @bettyjohnson13656 жыл бұрын

    Excellent review. Thank you.

  • @OffKilterCrafterIan

    @OffKilterCrafterIan

    6 жыл бұрын

    Thank you! I’m glad you liked it.

  • @disneygal200016
    @disneygal2000164 жыл бұрын

    I’m definitely switching to the Tim Holtz stamp platform. Thanks for the info!

  • @OffKilterCrafterIan

    @OffKilterCrafterIan

    4 жыл бұрын

    Your welcome!

  • @LollyPalooza
    @LollyPalooza Жыл бұрын

    When I first saw the MISTI online, I had no prior information to affect my opinion of the tool. My first thought was that it was a great idea, but then I saw the price. I believed that it was grossly overpriced for a plastic tool and refused to buy it. Then the TH one came out! In my opinion, his design is superior, and his price point is what I would expect for a tool with that size and spcification. I bought his and love it!

  • @OffKilterCrafterIan

    @OffKilterCrafterIan

    Жыл бұрын

    I love it too.

  • @aliciamayo1075
    @aliciamayo10756 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for helping me decide on which stamp platform to buy...Tim Holtz stamp platform looks like the winner.

  • @OffKilterCrafterIan

    @OffKilterCrafterIan

    6 жыл бұрын

    +Alicia Mayo I agree!

  • @susanhilley5822
    @susanhilley58227 жыл бұрын

    You made my decision as to which one to purchase!

  • @OffKilterCrafterIan

    @OffKilterCrafterIan

    7 жыл бұрын

    +Susan Hilley Glad I could help you make a decision.

  • @margaretlaughlin6911
    @margaretlaughlin69116 жыл бұрын

    love the comparison, looking to buy a stamp platform and after your demo I will be buying the Tim Holtz..Thanks for the review

  • @OffKilterCrafterIan

    @OffKilterCrafterIan

    6 жыл бұрын

    +Margaret Laughlin You are welcome. I hope you enjoy it.

  • @KathyJo
    @KathyJo4 ай бұрын

    I have a large Misti, but I'm looking for something a bit smaller and more convenient for more general use. I'm sold on the Tim Holtz Stamp Platform. Tonic Engineering does it again. Your demonstration and comparison were super helpful. Thanks.

  • @OffKilterCrafterIan

    @OffKilterCrafterIan

    4 ай бұрын

    Thank you! Glad you found my video helpful.

  • @daboyzmomAnne1961
    @daboyzmomAnne19617 жыл бұрын

    I sold my Misti and bought a TH platform. Best decision I've made in a while. 🙂 Anne

  • @OffKilterCrafterIan

    @OffKilterCrafterIan

    7 жыл бұрын

    +daboyzom1961 Good for you! I might give mine away.

  • @devilblueduke
    @devilblueduke6 жыл бұрын

    I don't own any platforms, so with this video I'm going with the Tim Holtz one. thx u for your input Crafter Ian.

  • @OffKilterCrafterIan

    @OffKilterCrafterIan

    6 жыл бұрын

    You are so welcome.

  • @jac4YouTube
    @jac4YouTube4 жыл бұрын

    I prefer the MISTI, first of all most people stamp on standard card sizes and not on 12x12 sheets so that part doesn't matter anyway , and the MISTI is easier to store if you have a smaller craft room with limited space

  • @cheryljohnson8838
    @cheryljohnson88386 жыл бұрын

    I waited for someone to come up with a platform that was less expensive than the MISTI, and was thrilled when Tim came out with his, as I could tell, it was not only cheaper but better made, and it could easily hold larger paper. Thanks for your comparison. I love. my TH Platform!

  • @OffKilterCrafterIan

    @OffKilterCrafterIan

    6 жыл бұрын

    +cheryl johnson Woohoo! Glad you are enjoying yours as much as I love mine.

  • @helenwebb8383
    @helenwebb83836 жыл бұрын

    Love the reviews, really helpful. But even better, the Dr Who T shirt. So cool.

  • @OffKilterCrafterIan

    @OffKilterCrafterIan

    6 жыл бұрын

    +Helen Webb I love me some Doctor Who! Lol

  • @victoriaburgess5868
    @victoriaburgess58686 жыл бұрын

    Thank you for the comparison, it confirmed what I thought. I have the misti but loved the idea that you can stamp larger cards or background stamps with TH Stamp Platform. Also the two flat edges are perfect for ease of stamping larger sheets of card etc. Husband buying me a TH Stamp Platform for my birthday this week 😜

  • @OffKilterCrafterIan

    @OffKilterCrafterIan

    6 жыл бұрын

    +Victoria Burgess Happy birthday and I hope you enjoy it as much as I do.

  • @dragonflygrandma
    @dragonflygrandma4 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for the video, didn't even realize the lid changed around. I'm such a dummy. Thanks again!

  • @OffKilterCrafterIan

    @OffKilterCrafterIan

    4 жыл бұрын

    Glad this video helped!

  • @VeganForLife-vw3zb
    @VeganForLife-vw3zb7 жыл бұрын

    Thank you ian. I have the Tonic platform and love it.

  • @OffKilterCrafterIan

    @OffKilterCrafterIan

    7 жыл бұрын

    +Jeanine Delsignore It's so amazing.

  • @jaytee2642
    @jaytee26424 жыл бұрын

    I'm really glad that I came across this video. I saw a video quite a while ago (probably on Tim's channel) showing his platform). I'm new to stamping and had never seen such a device and was amazed by the ingenuity, but I didn't really feel a need for it until very recently. And the most recent stamping videos I've watched show the Misti (which I had never heard of, being familiar only with Tim's version). Well, crafter after crafter seemed to be using the Misti, which made me wonder if it was superior to Tim's. Thank you so much for this comparison, I'll be purchasing one of Tim's platforms. 👍🏻😁

  • @OffKilterCrafterIan

    @OffKilterCrafterIan

    4 жыл бұрын

    Awesome! I’m glad to hear my video helped.

  • @donamariecolandro395
    @donamariecolandro3956 жыл бұрын

    Thx for the video now I know which one to buy. Tonic Studios Tim Holtz Stamp Platform

  • @OffKilterCrafterIan

    @OffKilterCrafterIan

    6 жыл бұрын

    Better do it soon. They are going to stop selling them soon.

  • @mariejenkins8971
    @mariejenkins89714 ай бұрын

    Way back when I was looking for a stamping platform, I looked at the Misti. There were two things I didn't like, the price "yikes"!! and how confining I felt it was. I bought a Stamparatus from Stampin Up, before they stopped selling them. So glad I did. After seeing your video, I like the Tim Holtz. It has some of the same features as the Stamparatus.

  • @OffKilterCrafterIan

    @OffKilterCrafterIan

    4 ай бұрын

    I totally agree!

  • @RachJCullen
    @RachJCullen7 жыл бұрын

    Excellent review - I've ordered a Tim Holtz SP off the back of this video :)

  • @OffKilterCrafterIan

    @OffKilterCrafterIan

    7 жыл бұрын

    +Rach J Let me know how you like it.

  • @Danielskrafts
    @Danielskrafts7 жыл бұрын

    Loved the review! And I love my Tim holtz stamp platform. Thx for the video:)

  • @OffKilterCrafterIan

    @OffKilterCrafterIan

    7 жыл бұрын

    +Daniels krafts Glad you enjoyed the review.

  • @michelleadamchak1330
    @michelleadamchak13304 жыл бұрын

    Nice tutorial Ian, thank you. This makes me sad that Tim's stamping platform is now so hard to find. I found it on Amazon for $57, with free shipping, but as of 12/20/19 there are only 5 in stock. Guess who's gettin that for christmas!!

  • @OffKilterCrafterIan

    @OffKilterCrafterIan

    4 жыл бұрын

    Very nice. I hope you enjoy it.

  • @VicToria-sd1dn
    @VicToria-sd1dn6 жыл бұрын

    So glad I didn't MISTI anything :) The price is forbidden, and the quality is unacceptable. I'm going for a Tim Holtz! Yay! You got a new subscriber here Ian.

  • @OffKilterCrafterIan

    @OffKilterCrafterIan

    6 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for subscribing! I hope you enjoy my future videos.

  • @LZCatt
    @LZCatt7 жыл бұрын

    Great comparison/review, Ian! I currently own the MISTI you used in the demo and love it. I'm very tempted by the new TH Platform and will most likely add that to my tool arsenal in the future especially for my larger projects. I'll keep my Misti for traveling and for my smaller projects. I also like the foam piece in the Misti for the clear stamps as it helps create a clean image with the first stamp so I think I would miss that in the TH Platform. The only thing I would add to your review is that if you have never used a stamping platform, you really need to get one. It will change the quality of your work for the better. It also makes creating layered stamp images so easy. I have actually stored away most of my stamp blocks in favor of my Misti. Thanks for the great review. I always enjoy your videos and find them very helpful.

  • @OffKilterCrafterIan

    @OffKilterCrafterIan

    7 жыл бұрын

    I think you are right, if you don't have a stamp tool you really should get one. Glad you liked the review!

  • @karenbrauneis4290

    @karenbrauneis4290

    7 жыл бұрын

    Leslie, you should check out Hedghog Hollow's review on the TH Platform. She added a thin piece of Fun Foam to fix the problem you spoke of regarding the clear stamps. She had some other good ideas you might be interested in.

  • @RobertaSharpe
    @RobertaSharpe6 жыл бұрын

    My next investment. Thanks for the video and great review!!!

  • @OffKilterCrafterIan

    @OffKilterCrafterIan

    6 жыл бұрын

    Thank you for watching. I hope you enjoy it!

  • @Genial112
    @Genial1126 жыл бұрын

    I love it, just got it yesterday. Order it from Walmart, price $29.99. Now that is a great price.Scrapbooking-Warehouse has it 26.49, did not see that in time. Love the entire design.

  • @OffKilterCrafterIan

    @OffKilterCrafterIan

    6 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for the price alert! 😍

  • @Bedalouwho
    @Bedalouwho4 жыл бұрын

    I have the Tim Holtz platform mini and am getting the larger one. I love it for the price.

  • @OffKilterCrafterIan

    @OffKilterCrafterIan

    4 жыл бұрын

    Tiger price is great!

  • @catherinecowie4358
    @catherinecowie43586 жыл бұрын

    I would have purchased a MISTI but over here in Australia the price is ridiculous. After seeing my friend's Tim Holtz Stamp Platform I decided to go with it instead. I even managed to buy it when it was reduced in price and with no shipping charges. Yay! This is great comparison vid and the Tim Holtz one looks sturdier. So glad I didn't splurge on the MISTI. Oh and I have just subscribed and given this vid a thumbs up.

  • @OffKilterCrafterIan

    @OffKilterCrafterIan

    6 жыл бұрын

    +Catherine Cowie You made the right choice in my opinion. Thanks for subscribing and I hope you enjoy my other videos.

  • @vlawton100
    @vlawton1006 жыл бұрын

    I have both and will continue to use both

  • @OffKilterCrafterIan

    @OffKilterCrafterIan

    6 жыл бұрын

    That’s great!

  • @minnahumble2294
    @minnahumble22942 жыл бұрын

    Great review!

  • @OffKilterCrafterIan

    @OffKilterCrafterIan

    2 жыл бұрын

    Thank you!

  • @KLThames
    @KLThames7 жыл бұрын

    I just got my platform yesterday, and I've not had a chance to play with it yet. I do have the original MISTI, and I have to say that at just my own first look of the platform that it really makes me feel like it is STURDY. I REALLY like that this doesn't have that stupid plastic covering over the grid, and yes, I recognize that the current MISTI's don't have it, it still is an annoyance every time I touch the lid; my fingers don't like that texture at all. I have always had great performance with my MISTI, and have no complaints about that at all. So, for me, it comes down to the design of the actual tool. I like that I don't have to have a "Memory" version to stamp on 12 x 12 papers. The design is actually so well thought out. If you look at the rulers on the sides of the original MISTI, there's an extra tick or two between a couple of the numbers on the ruler. Obviously I am not a freak about being exact or that would drive me crazy. I have a second MISTI that I got when my first MISTI started cracking on the edges and hinges, and I have just set that aside for use when the first one actually did bite the dust. So, what am I going to do? I'm going to reach for the Tim Holtz platform as my first choice of a tool. I am going to keep my MISTI in use when doing assembly line type of stamping, and my 2nd MISTI that I can use with Tack n' Peel for all those unmounted stamps that I've wanted to use, but haven't mounted yet. I also have a cheap-o DVD case that I keep set up with the stamps that I use on the backs of cards that I make, and that will continue to be at my fingertips. But when it comes down to nuts and bolts, I am glad to put my new TH stamping platform into the work-horse position, and as the MISTI's begin to crumble and break they will just go into the trash and I'll chalk that purchase up to a lesson well learned. I am also glad to support a product made by a leader in the industry and someone who hasn't gone crazy threatening to sue people for making their own versions of the tool.

  • @OffKilterCrafterIan

    @OffKilterCrafterIan

    7 жыл бұрын

    I could not agree more! I am so impressed with how steady the Tim Holtz Stamp Platform feels. I feel like I could stand on it and it won't break. That of course is not true, but all kidding aside it really does feel like I can put some heavy pressure on it and it is not going to break. Thanks for taking the time to watch my review and share your thoughts with me.

  • @kristenk1995

    @kristenk1995

    7 жыл бұрын

    Well said. I honestly regret giving the creator of MISTI any money because of her less than professional behavior even when she was shipping out defective product. Glad to see there are better alternatives now.

  • @Joconnor2973

    @Joconnor2973

    7 жыл бұрын

    I tend to stamp on things, much thicker than paper. I didn't stand on it, but I did kneel on it, as I was stamping on corrugated cardboard. . Of course I didn't put all of my weight on it, but the platform was fine afterwards!! This would depend on a persons weight of course, and I am sure Tonic and TH do not advise doing this, but I was willing to chance it!! Lol!

  • @HISIAM888RUHIS888
    @HISIAM888RUHIS8886 жыл бұрын

    Ian!.. Loved Your Demonstration!! & Comparison!! I have Not.. as Ayer.. bought either!.. Didn’t realize I needed one!! But! Lo & Behild!.. I DO!! Will go with the TH!! Thanks Again!! GBU!❤️

  • @OffKilterCrafterIan

    @OffKilterCrafterIan

    6 жыл бұрын

    I’m glad you liked my demonstration and comparison. I hope you enjoy it just as much as I enjoy mine.

  • @kimhargis6616
    @kimhargis66167 жыл бұрын

    I've been using the Tim Holtz for a couple weeks, and have a couple points to add: 1) if you are using a big ink pad, the lip on the lid gets in the way and is a little messy, 2) I don't think photopolymer stamps stamp as well on the Tim Holtz-- seems to give some uneven coverage vs. the misti with the foam pad. My verdict-- I like both for diff. Reasons, but am not ready to trash my misti!

  • @OffKilterCrafterIan

    @OffKilterCrafterIan

    7 жыл бұрын

    +Kim Hargis That is totally fair.

  • @elg762

    @elg762

    7 жыл бұрын

    As demonstrated in a KZread video for the Tim Holtz Stamp Platform, if you are having trouble stamping clear stamps with the Tonic Stamp Platform, buy a 2 mm thick 9" x 12" or 12" x 18" (not sure of the dimensions on the double size foam) at Michaels or Joann's for 89 cents or 99 cents, respectively. Don't buy thicker foam for obvious reasons (surprising that a stamper can't figure that out) or your cardstock will "slip" off of the foam! You can then place the 2 mm foam onto the Tim Holtz Stamp Platform to stamp clear cling stamps if that's your preference. But as several KZread videos for the Tim Holtz Stamp Platform demonstrate, many stampers do stamp clear cling stamps with no problem. I haven't had a problem so far on the hard surface. But I did buy black foam at both Michaels and Joann's to see if they work with the Tim Holtz Stamp Platform after reading that a stamper's cardstock "slipped" off of the foam. There's no problem as long as you buy the 2 mm foam. Myself, I prefer stamping clear stamps without the foam on my Tim Holtz Stamp Platform and have gotten great results. I prefer stamping big background stamps with the Tim Holtz Stamp Platform vs stamping them with my MISTI because the solid sturdy Tim Holtz lid seems to produce a more solid image than that done with the MISTI. I think it's because the weight of the Tim Holtz lid helps in stamping/applying pressure to a large image. The MISTI lid is very light weight; so, it seems that I have to press more firmly and more times when stamping large background images using my MISTI. I especially like that the Tim Holtz Stamp Platform lid is detachable as I take my lid with stamps to the sink to wash off/clean my stamps and lid. I find that I spend more time cleaning my MISTI and don't use the 2 Novus acrylic cleaners that I bought when I got my MISTI because of the toxic warnings on both bottles. I also especially like the *lower* price and higher quality of the Tim Holtz Stamp Platform!

  • @marybarden7382
    @marybarden73823 жыл бұрын

    I agree. The TH stamp platform is a better value. Misti’s price was way above what I could spend, but I got the better bargain by waiting. Love it!

  • @OffKilterCrafterIan

    @OffKilterCrafterIan

    Жыл бұрын

    Awesome!

  • @trichar5
    @trichar53 жыл бұрын

    I have a mini misti, but I will be getting the tonic platform, just makes more sense $$$, thanks

  • @DesWorld910
    @DesWorld9105 жыл бұрын

    Thank you for your video. I was torn between the MISTI and the Tim Holtz stamping platforms. I will purchase the Tim Holtz stamping platform as it meets my needs better.

  • @OffKilterCrafterIan

    @OffKilterCrafterIan

    5 жыл бұрын

    I’m glad my video helped. Make sure to buy it soon as it will be pulled from shelves soon.

  • @stephaniedrury6557
    @stephaniedrury65577 жыл бұрын

    Hi Ian, I have the middle size Misti, I got the Tim Holtz platform as a free gift in the UK, I love it, I like that it feels more robust. I've not had any problems with ink staining, I reach for it before my Misti which I loved but it always felt like I might break it ( I'm 6ft tall with big hands) lol. Ps loving the Dr who Tshirt. X

  • @OffKilterCrafterIan

    @OffKilterCrafterIan

    7 жыл бұрын

    +Stephanie Drury Could not agree more. Thanks for noticing my shirt. 😍

  • @emfahel105
    @emfahel1054 жыл бұрын

    I have both and I use the mist you the most, mostly because I almost had to stand on the TH platform with a bigger stamp. I have often wondered if my particular platform has a problem and shouldn’t be that way. Thanks for the great comparison.

  • @janetteaguirre-terry2986
    @janetteaguirre-terry29866 жыл бұрын

    Just bought a stamp platform Tim Holtz. Can’t wait to get it in the mail. Thanks for the review.

  • @OffKilterCrafterIan

    @OffKilterCrafterIan

    6 жыл бұрын

    I think you are going to love it.

  • @janetteaguirre-terry2986

    @janetteaguirre-terry2986

    6 жыл бұрын

    Thanks again Ian. Yes! Totally gonna love it and you can’t beat the price! I paid only $24. Heck ya! I did a Joann’s online haul. Got carried away. LOL can’t wait! Do you have a review on ink pads (dye, pigmented, and hybrid ink pads)? I was just going to order one from each company. (Stampin up, Simon Says, Hero Arts, Gina K, My Fav. Things, and so on) to try them all out. I want them all!!!! LOL.

  • @ritabracy4251
    @ritabracy42517 жыл бұрын

    Got the Tim Holtz Platform and sold my MISTY, both sizes. It sure made making 30 invitations super easy! Love, love, love it!

  • @OffKilterCrafterIan

    @OffKilterCrafterIan

    7 жыл бұрын

    +Rita Bracy Sweet!!

  • @vincentiafaddis5511
    @vincentiafaddis55117 жыл бұрын

    Am laughing at the sour reviews from Misti users not that I blame them since for the price of their 1 Misti they could get 2 Tonic/Tim Holtz platforms, oh BUT they'd buy the Tonic/Tim Holtz one if it was carried in a store with 40% off coupon. You know they never got their Misti for 40% off!!! I thought the Misti was clever but their price point was way too high for what it does plus I had the WRMK letterbox press that could do similar task but took up a lot of space. I've seen the Tonic/Tim Holtz one as low as $31.99 - skip a few fast food meals one month or Starbucks coffees and you can afford that. My health thanks me for skipping the fast food and my craftroom likes the new Tonic/Tim Holtz stamping platform.

  • @OffKilterCrafterIan

    @OffKilterCrafterIan

    7 жыл бұрын

    +Vincentia Faddis It's such a great tool!

  • @Natalia-009

    @Natalia-009

    7 жыл бұрын

    Vincentia Faddis I got my Misti for 40$ lol The normal sized not the small one.

  • @karlene1972
    @karlene19727 жыл бұрын

    I have the Hampton Arts Stamp Perfect , and I like it well enough but I am seriously thinking of trying the Tim Holtz one. Thanks for the review :)

  • @OffKilterCrafterIan

    @OffKilterCrafterIan

    7 жыл бұрын

    +Karlene Moore I think you should give it a try.

  • @Morena1268
    @Morena12686 жыл бұрын

    Thank you for this video Ian. I didn't know which one to invest in but after seeing this I'm now sold on the Tim Holtz. . I'm a new subscriber to your channel by the way and so far I love it! Keep up the great work.

  • @OffKilterCrafterIan

    @OffKilterCrafterIan

    6 жыл бұрын

    +Morena1268 I’m so glad to hear my video helped you. I’m also glad to hear you subscribed. I hope you enjoy my future videos.

  • @OscarsUpholsteryStudio
    @OscarsUpholsteryStudio6 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for the review. I am definitely going to buy the Tim Holtz platform. It looks as though it's a great tool like most of Tim's products.

  • @OffKilterCrafterIan

    @OffKilterCrafterIan

    6 жыл бұрын

    I think you will enjoy it. Let me know your thoughts when you get it.

  • @TheCreativeChica
    @TheCreativeChica6 жыл бұрын

    Can't wait for mine to arrive!

  • @OffKilterCrafterIan

    @OffKilterCrafterIan

    6 жыл бұрын

    I bet! It’s going to be so much fun.

  • @susandickson9869
    @susandickson98697 жыл бұрын

    I bought the original MISTI and waited until inventory met demand to get it. There were no magnets or grid papers included then. I don't mind the protective sheet I keep on the lid when I store it, and I bought the recommended cleaning product (I found it and magnets for a better price elsewhere) to preserve the etching on the lid. My only gripe has been a fear of cracking the hinges because the lid doesn't lie flat on the table when open and inking my stamp. Cure: a few sheets of fun foam and all is well. IF my MISTI ever breaks I will probably replace it with the TH platform, but I am sticking with my MISTI until or if that happens. Thanks for a great comparison!

  • @OffKilterCrafterIan

    @OffKilterCrafterIan

    7 жыл бұрын

    +Susan Dickson I totally agree if you have one already, use it until you wear it out. For those looking to get one the Tim Holtz one is the best one to go with in my opinion. Great idea about using the fun foam!

  • @mydyisgod
    @mydyisgod4 жыл бұрын

    Great video Ian and thank you. I’ve had my Tim Holtz platform for some time now and love it. I’ve been thinking of getting the Misti, but after seeing your video I believe I will pass on that purchase. From the first time using my TH, I’ve loved it. New stubbie here.

  • @OffKilterCrafterIan

    @OffKilterCrafterIan

    4 жыл бұрын

    I’m so glad you found my review helpful. Thanks for subscribing.

  • @annajaawre7749
    @annajaawre77496 жыл бұрын

    Thank you for showing! I'm going to buy the platform from Tim Holtz.

  • @OffKilterCrafterIan

    @OffKilterCrafterIan

    6 жыл бұрын

    Glad to hear it. Make sure to share what you make with me.

  • @sarahnubin3529
    @sarahnubin35296 жыл бұрын

    A GREAT REVIEW-THANKS

  • @OffKilterCrafterIan

    @OffKilterCrafterIan

    6 жыл бұрын

    You are welcome.

  • @christinebishop5419
    @christinebishop54196 жыл бұрын

    I am SO glad you did this comparison. I agree with you that the Tim Holtz and Tonic Stamping Tool is a better value than MISTI. I have used the MISTI since it has been available. I tried to stamp a piece of 12 x12 cardstock with a cling stamp and the lid of my MISTI cracked with the CPR method of trying to get a good image. Also, my card stock wrinkled. I realize there is a bigger MISTI for the larger card stock, but I didn't expect the lid to crack with light pressure. Thank you for showing us this comparison. I know what my next crafting purchase will be.

  • @OffKilterCrafterIan

    @OffKilterCrafterIan

    6 жыл бұрын

    +Christine Bishop Oh no! Sorry to hear you cracked your MISTI. I hope you enjoy the THSP!

  • @KarenHasheck
    @KarenHasheck6 жыл бұрын

    Totally agree Ian- I have both and you are right on the mark with the comparisons! I just found your channel and subscribed and gave your comparison video a thumbs up. I think they are both great tools and am not going to get involved in all the fighting between the lovers of both. But if I had to choose only one or had not bought one yet, I would recommend the Tim Holtz Tonic Studio Stamp Platform and I used it on a video I posted today (which is why KZread recommended your video to me:)

  • @OffKilterCrafterIan

    @OffKilterCrafterIan

    6 жыл бұрын

    Glad to hear you agree Karen. Well said!

  • @colleengoodbrand9670
    @colleengoodbrand96705 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for a great tutorial. I am researching 3 different platforms right now. By the way, you have beautiful hands - you should be a hand model!

  • @OffKilterCrafterIan

    @OffKilterCrafterIan

    5 жыл бұрын

    Well thank you!

  • @sheilaironside8099
    @sheilaironside80997 жыл бұрын

    I'm pretty sure I'm switching to the Tim Holtz! Thanks so much for sharing

  • @OffKilterCrafterIan

    @OffKilterCrafterIan

    7 жыл бұрын

    +Sheila Ironside You are very welcome!

  • @candacehill3971
    @candacehill39716 жыл бұрын

    Glad to see this before buying the MISTI. And, currently the Tim Holtz platform is $29.99 on Amazon :)

  • @OffKilterCrafterIan

    @OffKilterCrafterIan

    6 жыл бұрын

    Sweet! Sounds like a deal.

  • @surgicaltechcrafter2169
    @surgicaltechcrafter21696 жыл бұрын

    Thank you for your time doing this video. I decided on the Tonic. I will give a shout out to office supply they had the best price for the Tonic even with the shipping and handling. Hope this helps if you are looking to save some money.

  • @OffKilterCrafterIan

    @OffKilterCrafterIan

    6 жыл бұрын

    +Beth Maciaszek Good to know.

  • @lavonnesylvester8827
    @lavonnesylvester88274 жыл бұрын

    This was a great video. Thank you so much for the comparison of these two products. I have the original misti and was quite excited about it when it first debuted. My enthusiasm has since waned..quite a bit. My cover has cracked quite badly. Sometimes I think the only thing holding it together is the protective vinyl sheet. Which I had a very hard time positioning. I have now been looking for the Tim Holtz stamp platform and only recently found that it is almost impossible to find. So sad. Wish I had bought one when they first came out. Thanks again for a very well done video.

  • @OffKilterCrafterIan

    @OffKilterCrafterIan

    4 жыл бұрын

    I have been able to find it on Amazon still. You might try there.

  • @lavonnesylvester8827

    @lavonnesylvester8827

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@OffKilterCrafterIan thanks. I did look there but the shipping is almost as much as the platform. Will see what happens.😏

  • @kganda415
    @kganda4153 ай бұрын

    I'm a newbie in cardmaking and wondering what to buy. Glad that I saw your video. Thanks.

  • @OffKilterCrafterIan

    @OffKilterCrafterIan

    3 ай бұрын

    I hope you can find it. Unfortunately, it was discontinued so it may be hard to find.

  • @kganda415

    @kganda415

    3 ай бұрын

    @@OffKilterCrafterIan oh no!! 😔 Didn't even notice that your video was 6 years ago. Got excited.

  • @beryllello6651
    @beryllello66515 жыл бұрын

    Looking to buy thus comparing. I do like that the Misti 'lid' opens up like a book. Just seems easier for transferring ink. I agree the difference in cost is a little ridiculous.

  • @greatfulandblessed3665
    @greatfulandblessed36653 жыл бұрын

    I have the stamparatus by Stampin up and Tim's platform. Can't say that I like Tim's all that well to be honest.

  • @Canadian693
    @Canadian6936 жыл бұрын

    I have the regular and small Misti, as well as the Tim Holtz platform and I like using them all!

  • @OffKilterCrafterIan

    @OffKilterCrafterIan

    6 жыл бұрын

    They are all good tools. I still have my MISTI.

  • @kathyspharler6054
    @kathyspharler60546 жыл бұрын

    I have both sizes of MISTI and like them both, great video i will be getting the TH platform too :)

  • @OffKilterCrafterIan

    @OffKilterCrafterIan

    6 жыл бұрын

    Glad to hear it. Thanks for the compliment.

  • @susanforti1606
    @susanforti16067 жыл бұрын

    Great review and comparison Ian. I refused to pay the outrageous price for the MISTI. I purchased the We R platform from HSN very cheaply before the legal issues and before I heard about the Tonic Tim Holtz platform. Even though the We R doesn't have a magnetic base, it's been great. However, if I ever have issues with it not being magnetic, I will definitely buy this one. In my opinion, they are both much better than the MISTI. TFS! ❤️

  • @OffKilterCrafterIan

    @OffKilterCrafterIan

    7 жыл бұрын

    +Susan Forti I wish I had never bought MISTI now that I have this one.

  • @leanneusher1001

    @leanneusher1001

    6 жыл бұрын

    you can magnetise your We R platform too - Google it. Having said that - I just bought the Tim Holtz stamping Platform - because I didn't have any at all - except the Stampin Up Stampamajig - which I used a fair bit :) kzread.info/dash/bejne/mKGjlJZrXbDVfpM.html

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