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Tim Duncan: 2003 NBA Finals Highlights

A video highlighting Tim Duncan's best plays of the 2003 Finals vs. the New Jersey Nets. Duncan's talents were on full display in this series showing the world that he was without a doubt THE premiere player in the league. Scoring, rebounding, passing (including leading multiple fastbreaks like a PG) and dominating on defense en route to winning his 2nd of 3 Finals MVP's.

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  • @dbreiden83080
    @dbreiden8308011 жыл бұрын

    Tim Duncan at this point in his career was insanely great. Look at these highlights. He is controlling every single facet of the game. His defense is impeccable, his offensive game so complete, his court vision and passing rivals that of top point guards, his leadership is off the charts. In an era of too many one dimensional offensive players, Tim truly he is one of the 10 best to ever play..

  • @Mateo.7777

    @Mateo.7777

    4 жыл бұрын

    Top 3 in my opinion

  • @joaquinmanansala3221

    @joaquinmanansala3221

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@Mateo.7777 p

  • @Joe-kv6tk

    @Joe-kv6tk

    3 жыл бұрын

    His passing is underrated. If he played in this fast paced era today he’d average 5-6 assists a game

  • @BootyKing

    @BootyKing

    3 жыл бұрын

    When people say Anthony Davis > Tim Duncan 😭😭😭😭

  • @wes2262

    @wes2262

    2 жыл бұрын

    Best in my opinion.

  • @isaiah91996
    @isaiah9199610 жыл бұрын

    The greatest power forward of all time at his peak

  • @isaiah91996

    @isaiah91996

    8 жыл бұрын

    Tim duncan has no control over the era he played in out of all the players you mentioned none of them have the resume tim duncan has and he is still adding to it and even at his advanced age is still a huge contributor to his team to this day

  • @Ometecuhtli

    @Ometecuhtli

    3 жыл бұрын

    The timing, the court vision, where he stood and how he knew what to do in every play, the hunger to win, even some hoops which of course gradually lost as the effects of his injury became more apparent, 2003 Duncan had it all. According to basketball-reference no other single player, including Lebron James, has made more for his team during the playoffs to win a championship in the history of the league.

  • @rosssmith9941
    @rosssmith99418 жыл бұрын

    The NBA will never be the same. Thank you Tim Duncan.

  • @theheebs100
    @theheebs1009 жыл бұрын

    watching tim duncan and david robinson play together is a thing of beauty. And all this time later, old man river walk is STILL making young guns look silly. I hope my favorite player of all time gets his 6th ring this year.

  • @jazzalex22
    @jazzalex2212 жыл бұрын

    This 2003 team of San An was so good. It didn't matter if they played the Pistons or Nets because I knew they were gonna win it right from the beginning. Every game was a 6 game series. Tim Duncan became the 3rd player to win league and NBA Finals MVP behind Shaq and MJ something LeBron will never do.

  • @back2back379
    @back2back3794 жыл бұрын

    the thing is, when you watched Tim play, you would always notice the impact first and foremost, whether he ended up with amazing stats or not. There's a clear difference between someone who compiles stats, and someone who gets stats through impacting the game, and Duncan was most definitely the latter.

  • @ManniLive
    @ManniLive11 жыл бұрын

    Tim Duncan is a true champion a decade later and he still dropping these stats

  • @wendelleasports
    @wendelleasports7 жыл бұрын

    I can't wait for nba2k18, we get this version of Tim Duncan rated at 98 on the Spurs all time team!

  • @eriCartmanable
    @eriCartmanable13 жыл бұрын

    Best PF of all time!!

  • @Maal7432
    @Maal74327 жыл бұрын

    Duncan is top 5 ever. Idc idc idc

  • @joseadlc03

    @joseadlc03

    6 жыл бұрын

    jmaal2345 Yes Sir!

  • @N8veJay

    @N8veJay

    3 жыл бұрын

    Your correct

  • @Joe-kv6tk

    @Joe-kv6tk

    3 жыл бұрын

    Yessir. I got him sitting right at 5

  • @hdaaap
    @hdaaap12 жыл бұрын

    tim duncan is in the top 5 of all time. if he played with multiple hall of famers/top 50 players of all time he'd be even higher. haters gonna hate!

  • @officialmightynotoriousaka5463
    @officialmightynotoriousaka54633 жыл бұрын

    2-time league MVP Tim Duncan had an amazing 2003 playoff run avg 24.9 ppg 15 rpg 5apg and 5bpg(in the deciding GM vs New Jersey nets he'd had 21 pts 20 rebs 10 asst and 8 blks(2 blocks short for a quadruple double)

  • @CrimsonUniverse22
    @CrimsonUniverse2210 жыл бұрын

    The quality of this video starting at 6:04, it looks like this game took place in the 80's.

  • @Cotswolds1913
    @Cotswolds191312 жыл бұрын

    Don't be so sure of that, watch tape on Russell, you'll see that he was actually pretty darn quick for a center, his on-ball defense, defensive timing and awareness and shot-blocking were on par with any defender in history. Which is why he was SOO dominant.

  • @Ometecuhtli

    @Ometecuhtli

    3 жыл бұрын

    Russell was extremely well coordinated and had great timing! He was one hell of an athlete.

  • @Cmac636
    @Cmac63612 жыл бұрын

    It really should be PG: Magic SG: Jordan SF: Bird PF: Duncan C: Chamberlain

  • @mrpatfenis3148

    @mrpatfenis3148

    3 жыл бұрын

    Yeah..... No

  • @egg8133

    @egg8133

    3 жыл бұрын

    Switch Lebron for Bird and Kareem for Wilt

  • @elijahdevougas

    @elijahdevougas

    2 жыл бұрын

    I would switch Kareem for russel

  • @raginghandicap1115

    @raginghandicap1115

    2 жыл бұрын

    Curry Jordan Lebron Duncan Shaq At thier peaks.

  • @danielclark1247
    @danielclark12477 жыл бұрын

    What separates Duncan from any other power forward in NBA history....Go to 3:29 and watch him snag a rebound after contesting a Kenyon Martin drive, then he leads the fastbreak himself, and finally, he throws a picture perfect bounce pass on the money to a cutting Ginobli for a layup. Truly remarkable stuff from a 6'11 power forward/center. The only guy that was probably capable of doing that at that size was Bill Russell back in his day. #TheBigFundamental

  • @Ometecuhtli

    @Ometecuhtli

    3 жыл бұрын

    Props for knowing that Bill Russell and Duncan were the same size while playing the game (Duncan often mistaken for a "7-footer") :D

  • @heavylobster4339

    @heavylobster4339

    3 жыл бұрын

    Giannis does that too. He's got a ways to go to catch Duncan for best PF, but if anyone can do it, it's him.

  • @antonytolstunov7513
    @antonytolstunov751311 жыл бұрын

    PG-Magic, SG-Jordan, SF-Bird, PF-Duncan, Center-Bill Russell...that team would never lose...talk about a dynasty team, this team would be sick...bench players would be Isaiah, Stockton, kareem, wilt, oscar, west

  • @byw2291
    @byw229110 жыл бұрын

    timmy just got 27 pts after a decade. lol..

  • @CrimsonUniverse22
    @CrimsonUniverse2211 жыл бұрын

    I actually meant to put Hakeem. Their names sound so similar, I typed Kareem while thinking "Hakeem," lol. Yeah, Hakeem had virtually unstoppable offensive skills and defensive skills. That team I listed above is truly a LOCKDOWN defensive team, that could also score in buckets at will.

  • @AlanTheBoss33
    @AlanTheBoss3312 жыл бұрын

    PG - Magic SG - Jordan SF - Bird PF - Duncan C - Kareem

  • @stephenwa7417
    @stephenwa74173 жыл бұрын

    tim duncan is honestly and should be top 5 all time imooo

  • @AlexWong2002
    @AlexWong20028 жыл бұрын

    #‎Thankyou21‬ ‪#‎TimDuncan21‬ ‪#‎19yrs‬ ‪#‎spurslegacy‬ ‪#‎5titles‬ ‪#‎2xMVP‬ ‪#‎3xFinalMVP‬ ‪#‎15xAllstar‬ ‪#‎BestPFever‬ ‪#‎spursforlife‬ ‪#‎GoSpursGo‬

  • @whita998
    @whita9986 жыл бұрын

    This performance is so overlooked...

  • @iwaneatmeat
    @iwaneatmeat12 жыл бұрын

    C Olajuwon PF Duncan SF Pippen SG Jordan PG Nash My best first five since 90s

  • @stephenscurlock1447

    @stephenscurlock1447

    4 жыл бұрын

    Great list fam

  • @jolobajita9791
    @jolobajita979111 жыл бұрын

    Duncan is my Hero

  • @VladimirCordas
    @VladimirCordas12 жыл бұрын

    You forgot about Robinson, who actually played this series... His career was plagued by an injury that brought Timmy to the Spurs. He was rookie of the year, MVP, got a scoring title and DPOY, 2 rings, bunch of all star appearences up untill the injury, and he is HoF... I'd go with Robinson/Duncan/Olajuwon/Jordan/Magic... Just for the lulz.

  • @badexperiment
    @badexperiment11 жыл бұрын

    if you're going for the best team, rather than just picking the best players of all time for that position, i'd put pippen instead of bird. you don't really need extra scoring with jordan on the perimeter, kareem and duncan inside and magic feeding them the ball. pippen can space the floor too plus he's a much better defender.

  • @91gt306
    @91gt30611 жыл бұрын

    Duncan was a PF, hakeem center.

  • @MultiBearsfan54
    @MultiBearsfan548 жыл бұрын

    flood warning cause them shots wet af

  • @COLBY611
    @COLBY61112 жыл бұрын

    The greatest ever.

  • @dsmoove480
    @dsmoove48010 жыл бұрын

    duncan was bad man and still is

  • @Ometecuhtli
    @Ometecuhtli3 жыл бұрын

    The 2003 playoffs were pure brilliance by Tim Duncan. The Spurs had a good squad but individually weren't the best players you'd pick for a championship team. It was Robinson's last year and it showed, Parker was just 20 years of age and didn't even play the deciding quarter against the Nets. Ginobili was injured and even during the playoffs was still adjusting to the team's style of play. Jackson was their second best player but couldn't rely on him too much because of his personality and the way he conducted himself on and off the court. The rest were mostly players past their primes and obviously couldn't contribute much if it wasn't for what the others could do, role players through and through. It was also a time when the western conference was superior to the eastern one, there was not a single series that they could just rest (all played for the first time to 4 games) for the next one, faced the defending champion Lakers with both Shaq and Kobe in their primes, the best defense in the league in the Nets and they beat them all in convincing fashion. If you watched this series only you'd think Kenyon Martin was just a good player while in reality he was considered one of the best emerging PFs in the game, and he got no chance against Tim. Don't get me wrong, I love Parker and what he did to the franchise, but to this day, and I think he does too, I wonder what would've happened if they landed Jason Kidd for the next season.

  • @ilias_p
    @ilias_p12 жыл бұрын

    timmy in his prime..... beast

  • @s11010895
    @s1101089510 жыл бұрын

    Tim Duncan is a good player

  • @idolnash13

    @idolnash13

    10 жыл бұрын

    you are so smart!

  • @DoUEvenLift

    @DoUEvenLift

    10 жыл бұрын

    water is wet

  • @NYCGERSON777

    @NYCGERSON777

    10 жыл бұрын

    DoU EvenLift Fire is burning.

  • @somekid1564
    @somekid156412 жыл бұрын

    Lets not forget Luke Walton. He is the crucial key for a warm bench.

  • @benarnao1720
    @benarnao17208 жыл бұрын

    GOAT?

  • @Maal7432

    @Maal7432

    7 жыл бұрын

    Ben Arnao He's up there.

  • @JH-bb8in
    @JH-bb8in7 жыл бұрын

    Wow, Duncan was fast.

  • @gpxjimmy
    @gpxjimmy3 жыл бұрын

    K-Mart was being blocked da shit out by Duncan and couldn't stop Duncan constantly scoring on himself, I guess even K-Mart started to salute Duncan after these games

  • @tkdpower
    @tkdpower10 жыл бұрын

    Amazing :)

  • @aikidoboynj
    @aikidoboynj11 жыл бұрын

    With Jordan on the team being the primary offensive weapon I think bird would space the floor out better than LeBron, (bird more of an outside threat...). That being said Lebron and Jordan together, what a pain in the ass that would be for any team to deal with.

  • @Ometecuhtli

    @Ometecuhtli

    3 жыл бұрын

    Indeed

  • @nuddin901
    @nuddin90113 жыл бұрын

    I love u

  • @relive911
    @relive91112 жыл бұрын

    14:10 21 pts 20 rebounds 10 asst. 8 blks?! ALMOST A QUADRUPLE DOUBLE!!!!

  • @onblock7
    @onblock712 жыл бұрын

    @rafikz77 Yeah it sucks to see that as a long time fan! I remember this Duncan well, how many forget so soon how great he was on his prime. He could do it all, midrange, bank and inside, dude was a flat out beast in his prime! Untouchable that year especially.

  • @eriCartmanable
    @eriCartmanable13 жыл бұрын

    duncan ate kenyon martin alive!! TOTAL DOMINATION!!

  • @143jetblack
    @143jetblack10 жыл бұрын

    The fact that the Spurs never achieved a repeat but hats off to their performances especially Duncan

  • @DeCavalcante

    @DeCavalcante

    10 жыл бұрын

    They play in the west, its a tough conference, plus they had to worry about the great Lakers.

  • @91gt306

    @91gt306

    10 жыл бұрын

    lol as if that matters. 5 championships

  • @CrimsonUniverse22

    @CrimsonUniverse22

    10 жыл бұрын

    They may actually do it this time.

  • @Ometecuhtli

    @Ometecuhtli

    3 жыл бұрын

    The fact that the Spurs played against one of Lakers' dynasties and as a small market team often got overlooked by most free agents.

  • @anthonybryant4944
    @anthonybryant494410 жыл бұрын

    2003 was a common year cause I was 9 years old back then

  • @SleazyNA

    @SleazyNA

    10 жыл бұрын

    Me too :)

  • @anthonybryant4944

    @anthonybryant4944

    10 жыл бұрын

    SleazyNA Being 9 years old was pretty tough

  • @confoundb4
    @confoundb411 жыл бұрын

    Basketball was still developing back in those days. Honestly you cant compare any of those to Tim Duncan. Have you watch TD's agility in this video for such a big man?

  • @moviehypno23
    @moviehypno2312 жыл бұрын

    @LakersDynasty42 we're generally agreed on that, yes

  • @hdaaap
    @hdaaap12 жыл бұрын

    more duncan videos!!!!!!!!!! please!!!!!!

  • @bigedjr1780
    @bigedjr178013 жыл бұрын

    @LakersDynasty42 beyond astonishing

  • @iBoxPhone
    @iBoxPhone12 жыл бұрын

    How did I act like I've seen them play? Lol? All I did was look up a few dates and connected them incorrectly. Probably 90% of the people on KZread don't even know WHEN these greats played, I just happened to get a few dates mixed up.

  • @alistilla2
    @alistilla212 жыл бұрын

    PG - Magic Johnson SG - Michael Jordan SF - Scottie Pippen PF - Dennis Rodman C - Hakeem Olajuwon

  • @Tdsan26
    @Tdsan2612 жыл бұрын

    PG Magic--SG Jordan---SF Bird---PF Duncan---C Hakeem

  • @banklikefrankwhite1
    @banklikefrankwhite113 жыл бұрын

    @bigedjr1780 you know..you are the first laker fan i've seen that has said good things about the spurs?...that's kind of cool lol

  • @rafikz77
    @rafikz7713 жыл бұрын

    Thanks LD Man, Timmy was so mobile back then... He is not the same player anymore :-(

  • @GoDiGY93
    @GoDiGY9312 жыл бұрын

    Even Walton calls Duncan a Center which is what he really is.

  • @banklikefrankwhite1
    @banklikefrankwhite113 жыл бұрын

    @lagosdre oh also...ginobili and parker are ALWAYS mentioned in the greatest player of all time conversation lol like kobe is...( although i think ginobili SHOULD be considered a top player, not best ever, but certainly has put in the work to deserve more recognition than he does)

  • @patricklee780
    @patricklee7805 жыл бұрын

    Just 2 blocks shy of a quadruple double. Let's see you do that Lebron.

  • @Cotswolds1913
    @Cotswolds191312 жыл бұрын

    You obviously have no idea how athletic and mobile Kareem used to be in his peak years. He also brought WAY more value to the defensive side of the court then Shaq.

  • @Paragon231
    @Paragon23111 жыл бұрын

    "Tim Duncan became the 3rd player to win league and NBA Finals MVP behind Shaq and MJ something LeBron will never do. " Really?

  • @balintbogdanmihai
    @balintbogdanmihai13 жыл бұрын

    @elmagicomessi Only a persone that doesn't know anything about basketball could have said that . you definitely are one of those people !

  • @badexperiment
    @badexperiment12 жыл бұрын

    yeah you are right, just 8 other hall of fame centers

  • @droctagon3k
    @droctagon3k11 жыл бұрын

    Duncan needed to be reported to social services this series, he absolutely abused Kenyon Martin

  • @DoUEvenLift
    @DoUEvenLift11 жыл бұрын

    I agree, I'd sub Kareem for Hakeem though

  • @radovlasic12
    @radovlasic1213 жыл бұрын

    @elmagicomessi TOP 20! WHAT THE FUDGE ARE YOU TALKİNG ABOUT? HES THE GREATEST POWER FORWARD OF ALL TIME!!!

  • @messiguns10
    @messiguns1011 жыл бұрын

    2 blocks away from being a bigger legend

  • @CSeyoum
    @CSeyoum11 жыл бұрын

    Lebron looks like he about to do it.

  • @iHaunted1
    @iHaunted112 жыл бұрын

    PG Nash---SG Jordan---SF Bird---PF Duncan---C Shaq

  • @BeachPleased
    @BeachPleased12 жыл бұрын

    @TheRafaelBond Pippen is ten times all NBA-defensive team (8 as a first team)

  • @tharock220
    @tharock22012 жыл бұрын

    Shaq, Hakeem, Russel, Wilt, Kareem...I can see an argument made for an of them as best center ever. There's really no argument for Nash as the best point guard ever. I can't think of any point guard to compete with Magic either. Isiah, Robertson, Stock, none of those guys were ever even arguably the best player in the league.

  • @TheNBAfan101
    @TheNBAfan10113 жыл бұрын

    @TheRody12 EXACTLY

  • @tharock220
    @tharock22012 жыл бұрын

    This has been done by Magic Johnson, Larry Bird, Hakeem Olajuwon, and Kareem Abdul-Jabbar as well.

  • @clutchcity25
    @clutchcity2512 жыл бұрын

    Hakeem gets no love here?

  • @ShadeXH
    @ShadeXH10 жыл бұрын

    Man could David Stern have sounded less excited there? I don't think so.

  • @CrimsonUniverse22
    @CrimsonUniverse2211 жыл бұрын

    Lebron for Pippen, and Hakeem or Kareem.

  • @jacobfrye8648
    @jacobfrye86483 жыл бұрын

    Nobody: Tim Duncan: Does some Magic Johnson pass fake to finger roll layup on the fast break!!! Pop: 😑

  • @LakersDynasty42
    @LakersDynasty4212 жыл бұрын

    You're forgetting about Reed (1970), Kareem (1971), Moses (1983), Bird ('84 & '86), Magic (1987) & Hakeem (1994). LeBron James just accomplished this feat a few days ago.

  • @confoundb4
    @confoundb411 жыл бұрын

    Feeling great, Spurs swept 2 teams in this years playoffs. Next on the bucket list is destroying miamia heat, well thats if they stop struggling against an amateur team. I laugh every time I think about miami sweating over the pacers. I count at least 10 blocks from tim duncan on wade and james. How you feel now?

  • @dthomxa
    @dthomxa10 жыл бұрын

    Duncan still got them moves though.😴😴

  • @Cotswolds1913
    @Cotswolds191312 жыл бұрын

    Well, for starters, Hakeem owned David Robinson in the playoffs, and both he and Ewing could shoot 3's. But Kareem and Tim Duncan were both better as well.

  • @user-oj3yf2kw1p
    @user-oj3yf2kw1p Жыл бұрын

    3 three pointers made for each team by the 4th quarter lol

  • @moviehypno23
    @moviehypno2312 жыл бұрын

    In terms of size you're right, Russell's more a Power Forward by today's standards, Kareem would probably be a better choice haha

  • @Ometecuhtli

    @Ometecuhtli

    3 жыл бұрын

    And now we got 6'7 Draymond Green playing center XD

  • @TheNBAfan101
    @TheNBAfan10113 жыл бұрын

    @elmagicomessi Ok, 4x NBA Champion 3x NBA Finals MVP 2x NBA Most Valuable Player NBA Rookie of the Year 13× NBA All-Star 9× All-NBA First Team 3× All-NBA Second Team All-NBA Third Team 8× All-Defensive First Team 5× All-Defensive Second Team NBA All-Rookie First Team NBA All-Star Game MVP Naismith College Player of the Year 2× ACC Player of the Year HOW THE HELL DOES HE NOT BELONG IN THE TOP 10?!

  • @LakersDynasty42
    @LakersDynasty4212 жыл бұрын

    @moviehypno23 I don't agree with Shaq being there either but at least he's a Top 10 player.

  • @maikelion
    @maikelion12 жыл бұрын

    Hakeem anyone?

  • @dbreiden83080
    @dbreiden8308011 жыл бұрын

    82-0 every year...

  • @nuknuknuk111
    @nuknuknuk11112 жыл бұрын

    no Wilt the Stilt??

  • @banklikefrankwhite1
    @banklikefrankwhite113 жыл бұрын

    @lagosdre oh also...ginobili and parker are ALWAYS mentioned in the greatest player of all time conversation lol like kobe is...( although i think ginobili SHOULD be considered a top player, not best ever, but certainly has put in the work to deserve more recognition than he does) and you're making a comparison?

  • @SntYvsLrnt
    @SntYvsLrnt11 жыл бұрын

    How do you feel right now?

  • @Paragon231
    @Paragon23111 жыл бұрын

    "something LeBron will never do" He's done it twice in a row now.

  • @noobestofdamall
    @noobestofdamall11 жыл бұрын

    Lol, he did it. Probably doing it again.

  • @joeykiller
    @joeykiller10 жыл бұрын

    Tim Duncan, David Robinson, Tony Parker, Manu Ginobli... thats just unfair...

  • @CrimsonUniverse22

    @CrimsonUniverse22

    10 жыл бұрын

    Um, Robinson was old as dirt, Parker was only in his second year, and Manu was a rookie. This group isn't as talented as it seems. Duncan CARRIED this 2003 team.

  • @Rfranklinz45

    @Rfranklinz45

    9 жыл бұрын

    This was the end of Robinson's career and just the start for Tony and Manu. Tim Duncan was the man on this squad.

  • @chargerjake73

    @chargerjake73

    7 жыл бұрын

    joeykiller this year Tim carried the Spurs to the finals and through them as well. The best all time stat line ever for a finals MVP imo. 24-17-5 and 5 blocks.

  • @wendelleasports

    @wendelleasports

    7 жыл бұрын

    joeykiller yea I know! And lets not forget Stephen Jackson coming off the bench!

  • @wendelleasports

    @wendelleasports

    7 жыл бұрын

    Anthony Domingo you're absolutely right! Pop benched Tony Parker for speedy claxton because of his poor play, Duncan Carried the team

  • @moviehypno23
    @moviehypno2312 жыл бұрын

    @LakersDynasty42 let's not forget, Shaq over Kareem or Russell? C'mon

  • @TheNeutralizer27
    @TheNeutralizer274 жыл бұрын

    He should've had a quadruple double because they didn't count the two blocks.. smh why did they get that wrong

  • @jamesrichards6731
    @jamesrichards67317 жыл бұрын

    1.11 Steve Kerr lol

  • @Ometecuhtli

    @Ometecuhtli

    3 жыл бұрын

    The one and the same who stopped Nash in the Dallas series, yes.

  • @whita998
    @whita9986 жыл бұрын

    Also the these finals ratings mustve been so trash no one was trying to see this

  • @iBoxPhone
    @iBoxPhone12 жыл бұрын

    Don't be so damn ignorant. I've been a hardcore Spurs fan for life and he may be a Top 10 player, but a Top 5 player? No.

  • @21webb
    @21webb12 жыл бұрын

    I'll take Hakeem Olajuwon...

  • @egg8133

    @egg8133

    3 жыл бұрын

    Nah

  • @eyeofthetiger444
    @eyeofthetiger44412 жыл бұрын

    @GoDiGY93 100% false. Shortest player was 6'1". Truth is there actually were more big guys back in those days than there are now. You're on the Internet buddy shouldn't you research this type of thing before you make a bogus comment?

  • @LakersDynasty42
    @LakersDynasty4212 жыл бұрын

    @iHaunted1 Nash over Magic? Please.