There is a podcast called "This Is A Disaster".... Their first episode was on the plague of Athens! Well worth a listen!!

Thucydides's descriptions is so great! I feel bad that my Greek class last semester only got three books in before we ran out of time to finish Thucydides. You make a good point that T is very much more to the point, practical (more like a modern historian) as opposed to Herodotus, who loves his amusing stories. Though I still prefer Herodotus more, which makes sense because I love narrative stories.

@michaelk.vaughan8617

2 жыл бұрын

Yes, I love Herodotus more as well. I do love this book though.

Really looking forward to this series, will go and find the books now so I am ready. Thank you !!!

@michaelk.vaughan8617

2 жыл бұрын

You are so welcome! Thanks for watching!

Yeah I get the feeling that Robert Howard must have read some of these classics, considering the realism and depth that he was able to present in some of his big battle scenes.

@michaelk.vaughan8617

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Yeah, I’m pretty sure REH read this.

I’ll be buying the Landmark edition soon! Great discussion.

@michaelk.vaughan8617

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks!

I love your ancient history series. More please!!!!

@michaelk.vaughan8617

2 жыл бұрын

Okay! There will be much more.

I’m new here. I heard of the book, searched and your video popped up. Excellent video, and as someone who mostly reads regular fiction - the reading gives me the insist that the prose seems to be very readable! Thanks a lot.

Great video. I have recently been reading Thucydides’ classic work “History of the Peloponnesian War.” I can understand why this has been a classic for so long and helps illuminate the historical events that took place and is also useful when it comes to political philosophy and political theory. I am new to this work though and there was one passage that really stuck out to me. It is from the fourth book, chapter 50: “The next winter, Aristides, the son of Archippus, one of the commanders of a fleet which the Athenians had sent out to gather tribute from their confederates, apprehended Artaphernes, a Persian, in the town of Eion upon the river Strymon, going from the king to Lacedaemon. When he was brought to Athens, the Athenians translated his letters out of the Assyrian language into Greek and read them; wherein, amongst many other things that were written to the Lacedaemonians, the principal was this: that he knew not what they meant, for many ambassadors came, but they spake not the same thing; if therefore they had anything to say certain, they should send somebody to him with this Persian. The Athenians afterwards sent back Artaphernes in a galley to Ephesus, and ambassadors with him, who heard there of the death of King Artaxerxes, son of Xerxes, which took place about that time, and so returned home.” - Thucydides, History of the Peloponnesian War 4.50 This passage sounds very fascinating, but I do not fully understand since I am not fully aware or knowledgable about the exact historical content and historical context behind it. I was therefore wondering what is the significance of this passage from Thucydides? Thanks.

Gotta love the Landmark series.

@michaelk.vaughan8617

2 жыл бұрын

It’s so great. It’s been a wonderful series if only because it’s improved my knowledge of ancient geography.

Graham Allison, my former Harvard professor, adores this book so much, he's even written a book based on this book : "The Avoidable War"- check it out, it's a knockout.

@michaelk.vaughan8617

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Thanks for the recommendation! I appreciate it!

Always an education! Thanks!

@michaelk.vaughan8617

2 жыл бұрын

Sure thing! Thanks for watching!

great review !

I’ve noticed that so many great book reader/collectors have Sherlock Holmes in their collections. That really says a lot

The father of history.

This was interesting! Great book discussion and recommendation. I'll have to check it out someday!

@michaelk.vaughan8617

2 жыл бұрын

Yes! Someday! Next to Malazan it should be an easy read!

Your musings on ancient history are always entertaining. I've got copies of Herodotus and Thucydides, but I haven't read them. Perhaps 2022 is the year. 😛Neither are the Penguin editions, unfortunately, but they're supposed to be pretty good translations. I've got the Steven Lattimore translation of The Peloponnesian War and the Oxford Classics edition of The Histories, translated by Robin Waterfield. Have you read either of those versions? Let me know if I made the right decision, lol.

@michaelk.vaughan8617

2 жыл бұрын

I have not read the Lattimore. The Waterfield is excellent.

@BartelsBookshelf

2 жыл бұрын

@@michaelk.vaughan8617 Good to know! Thank you. 😊

Great review

@michaelk.vaughan8617

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks!

This book is the foundation of the realism school of International relationship theory. Would be great to find a copy in our libraries.

@FortressMT

Жыл бұрын

It is super easy to find on Amazon

I'm currently reading the Jeremy Mynott's translation; I think it's the most readable ones.

Yeh I really should read it. I've only read Kagan's The Peloponesian War, which I liked but I should read the real thing.

@michaelk.vaughan8617

2 жыл бұрын

Yes, definitely read the genuine article!

2:38 he was Athenian, not Roman

@michaelk.vaughan8617

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Of course. I can’t believe I said that! That’s what I get for not editing.

@Moribus_Artibus

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@@michaelk.vaughan8617 I mean I knew what you meant. I'm just a little picky sometimes. Great review!

Thucydides! And you say you can't province anything! 👌😄