Thrustmaster T300 Metal Bearing & Pinion Upgrade Mod

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This video is a step by step guide on how to upgrade the plastic belt tensioners and motor pinion for metal bearings and a metal pinion.
This should give a smoother feel and potentially make the FFB feel stronger.
Parts required:
Metal motor pinion, 3M-16T Step Timing Pulley Bore 4-8mm, 11mm belt width, 5mm bore
www.ebay.co.uk/itm/273850539897
6 Bearings (693), size 3mm x 8mm x 3mm
www.ebay.co.uk/itm/371164430935
Small washers (approx 5mm)

Пікірлер: 194

  • @Javier-yd5qf
    @Javier-yd5qf2 жыл бұрын

    Mod done!! The little bearings are a bit noisy but now the steering feels so smooth

  • @user-fz7rj2sc6j
    @user-fz7rj2sc6j2 жыл бұрын

    Great video. Ordered parts. We are waiting for the continuation.

  • @milosberka4588
    @milosberka45882 жыл бұрын

    Did this upgrade a while back and just went ahead and swapped out the other belt’s tensioners with bearings too. The other ones are definitely a bit more work, as you have to get/make replacement axles for the bearings - but definitely worth it. Was clearly smoother compared to stock even with just this, but replacing the other tensioners with bearings takes it to another level. 100% recommend!

  • @GRiiiMx

    @GRiiiMx

    2 жыл бұрын

    Hi mate do you have any more information on this please? How did you get around or make the replacement Axel's ? Thank you

  • @milosberka4588

    @milosberka4588

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@GRiiiMx Sure dude: Accessing the tensioners requires removing the front panel - a couple on the bottom and 5 or so on the front. The tensioners are screwed in from the front on sleds. The axle can be pushed out using a screwdriver. The replacement axle you’re going to need is basically any round steel with 5 mm diameter, which you then just need to cut to length (and possibly file to get rid of any rough edges). The bearings should be approx. 5x13x4mm, and you need 6 in total. Then just push the new axles into the assembly and through the bearings and reassemble. Once I found my materials, easy enough to do.

  • @GRiiiMx

    @GRiiiMx

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@milosberka4588 thank you! Time to shop!

  • @ZXR_SBK

    @ZXR_SBK

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@milosberka4588 im in the process of doing bearing mods to a TX wheel base, same internals as a T300 as far as motor, tensioners, and rollers go. why did you need to make custom axles for these rollers? maybe the TX is slightly different from the T300 on these rollers, but seems the stock axles would be fine with these same bearing sizes you listed.

  • @milosberka4588

    @milosberka4588

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@ZXR_SBK The stock axles have notches in them, with a smaller diameter in the middle vs the ends, so the bearings wouldn’t be properly supported.

  • @no-replies
    @no-replies8 ай бұрын

    Got a $90 new tmx last week and already taken it apart 4 or 5 times. If thrust master spent some time updating it, the tmx would be entry level king for another 10 years

  • @BabblingBubbles01
    @BabblingBubbles012 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for the link to buy the pinion. I've upgraded to the parts you have recommended. This is a good video....BUT your leaving out vital and potentially catastrophic things to pay attention to. Make sure you do not let the belt move without the pinions moving. You will lose TDC. Top dead center. You need to mark the belt and the tooth on the pinion. I like to mark the motor as well. It's just the belt you MUST NOT MOVE. The shift has a flat side. The pinion you recommend is almost too long. The retaining screws need to be lined up right because of the flat side. So just remember top dead center or your wheel will be turned and not calibrate correctly. It can get ugly. Lol. I know. I had to take my completely apart. It's all about the pully positions.

  • @simpulse5825

    @simpulse5825

    2 жыл бұрын

    Hi thanks for the points you made. It is a good idea to mark where the belt is, I didn't but afterwards I did have to use the downloadable software available via a google search which recalibrates TDC.

  • @BabblingBubbles01

    @BabblingBubbles01

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@simpulse5825 Just like you can toggle the cooling fan from auto to full time by holding 3 buttons.....MODE, SHARE AND START. I think?......there is a way to calibrate a new tdc and something with the pedals.

  • @azzaz905

    @azzaz905

    2 жыл бұрын

    is the pinion upgrade worth it? i have a t150 and i’m doing bearing upgrade and maybe do the pinion. but the only thing i’m scared of is losing the TDC

  • @simpulse5825

    @simpulse5825

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@azzaz905 it's hard to know if the pinion makes any difference, but you can mark where the belt is and refit in the same place, or refit roughly where it was and use the third party calibration software. You can find this on google.

  • @davidtran8206

    @davidtran8206

    Жыл бұрын

    Can you please provide the name of the third party software that you had used to recalibrate the TDC. Because I have the same issue as I lost control of my car and the TDC while driving in game. I tried resetting and recalibrating the TDC through the thrustmaster control panel and everytime I lose the TDC while in the middle of the game. Is the Hall sensor picking this mod up?

  • @joaoverissimo2555
    @joaoverissimo25552 жыл бұрын

    Very good content, keep the good work!

  • @simpulse5825

    @simpulse5825

    2 жыл бұрын

    Thank you :)

  • @user-ej5wl8zd1w
    @user-ej5wl8zd1w2 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for the video and links. I note that you can use 3 bearings 3x9x4 without any spacers and washers

  • @lc_dzn9112

    @lc_dzn9112

    2 жыл бұрын

    Sorry, may be a stupid question and also a bit late, but does it affect longetivity or anything in a negative way when you don't use washers?

  • @user-ej5wl8zd1w

    @user-ej5wl8zd1w

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@lc_dzn9112 I do not think so. I definitely recommend bearings without washers and mod from the author of this video. You will be surprised how the feeling will change

  • @wulokchun

    @wulokchun

    2 жыл бұрын

    3x9x3.5 are better if they exist.

  • @eduardarhot4903

    @eduardarhot4903

    Жыл бұрын

    hello, i found 3x8x3 and 3x9x4 bearings, which are better and why? thanks

  • @user-mw7uq3nl4n

    @user-mw7uq3nl4n

    Жыл бұрын

    ​@@eduardarhot4903 привет, лучше будут 3х9х4, т.к не нужно будет регулировать натяжение и искать баланс, также отмечу, что стандартные натяжители идут именно 9мм во внешнем диаметре, а не 8мм. Также если углубляться, то чем больше внешний радиус колеса(в нашем случае подшипника) тем больше нужно будет поворота ремня, чтобы прокрутить его одинаковое количество раз(я знаю что разница совсем не значительная, но на как-то это должно влиять, так как подшипник будет крутиться на слегка меньших оборотах )я не знаю как это объяснить по "инженерному" но чтобы понять, просто возьмите два круглых объекта, разных по радиусу, сделайте отметку в верхней точке, и прокрутите по столу, и вы увидите что круглый объект с меньшим радиусом пройдет меньшее расстояние по столу, до полного оборота. Не знаю зачем я это всё расписывал) Берите 3х9х4 😁

  • @sadrhogollsodia9505
    @sadrhogollsodia95052 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for the mod.

  • @frankf2856
    @frankf28562 жыл бұрын

    Hi i want to mod my t300 i was wondering what size washer did you use as the description only specify 5mm thanks and keep up the good vid 👍

  • @stel1992
    @stel19922 жыл бұрын

    very good upgrate , maybe i will do it one day

  • @ianbarnes6266
    @ianbarnes6266 Жыл бұрын

    Hi Buddy, great informative video, just one question, if you have gone to all that trouble, why not undo a few more screws and replace the bottom Nylon rollers to bearings ? Keep up the awesome content.

  • @karl_toffel

    @karl_toffel

    Жыл бұрын

    Because you have to make custom shafts

  • @MDaDonLegacy
    @MDaDonLegacy2 жыл бұрын

    I also did this to my Thrustmaster TMX. Worked great

  • @BluFrost8888

    @BluFrost8888

    Жыл бұрын

    Which Pinon size did you use? 5mm and 11mm is too large for TMX/150

  • @ndbr-z8x

    @ndbr-z8x

    11 ай бұрын

    @@BluFrost8888 Did you end up doing the Pinion mod?

  • @BluFrost8888

    @BluFrost8888

    11 ай бұрын

    @Brandon4179 nope lol, tbh I don't think it'll make a a huge difference anyways since the TMX/T150 is fundamentally worse than the T300/TX with its gear system. The bearings 3x8x4mm (693ZZ size) made a decent difference but nothing significant like going for a fully belt system on the T300/TX. I just saved the correct T300 pinion size that I ordered in my tool chest for whenever I get a T300 and sell my T150

  • @ndbr-z8x

    @ndbr-z8x

    11 ай бұрын

    @@BluFrost8888 Ah okay, I'll probably just do the bearing mod. Thank you for the response.

  • @MRDEEGAMING
    @MRDEEGAMING2 жыл бұрын

    Cheers for the video I'm now going to grab these parts and do this myself 🙂

  • @jctinkler88

    @jctinkler88

    2 жыл бұрын

    Where can you get the metal pinion?

  • @simpulse5825

    @simpulse5825

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@jctinkler88 ebay, link in the description :)

  • @Lukeghfa

    @Lukeghfa

    3 ай бұрын

    @@simpulse5825 does 10mm belt width work too? thats all i can find online currently in my area

  • @Adrytb
    @Adrytb2 жыл бұрын

    Hello, very good mod 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻

  • @thatcamowrx551
    @thatcamowrx5512 жыл бұрын

    Just ordered a t300 base was wondering if you could make a video showcasing a few minor part replacements and tips to extend the life and reliability of the wheel anything from metal replacements, betters motors and fans would be appreciated

  • @simpulse5825

    @simpulse5825

    2 жыл бұрын

    Hi thanks for watching. I have another video showing how to replace a failed motor with a like-for-like but unfortunately since the video, the motors have been almost impossible to get hold of. Aside from that, many people have upgraded the fan but I have not. I use the 'forced cooling' mode which keeps the fan on all of the time. This is definitely recommended.

  • @martinmavroforakiss6024
    @martinmavroforakiss6024 Жыл бұрын

    Hello, In the video description you mention we need an 11mm belt width 5mm bore motor pinion, would a 12mm belt width 5mm bore motor pinion work? Shipping is around 2 months waiting time for me and waiting that long for the pinion is not something I'd like to do. I found one locally that is 12mm in width but I don't know if that one would work.

  • @holierholer60
    @holierholer602 жыл бұрын

    Does this get rid of the notchy feeling at center?

  • @bla20428
    @bla20428 Жыл бұрын

    waht would happen if one would change the gear ratio ? say from 16 teeth pinion > 15 ? would the software still be able to calibrate correctly or would u like need to put in higher wheel rotation software wise to get the same amount of wheel rotation like with the original gearing ?

  • @alphaq7707
    @alphaq7707 Жыл бұрын

    What is the actual width of the timing belt? Will this work with 10mm belt width timing pulley?

  • @thepaisleyproject
    @thepaisleyproject5 ай бұрын

    gotta try this

  • @nick.reviews247
    @nick.reviews2472 жыл бұрын

    The supplier of the pinion wont ship to the united states & I cant find it on ebay. Does anyone have a link for a united states based supplier?

  • @Chris_Vasileiou
    @Chris_Vasileiou2 жыл бұрын

    can this work on ts-pc racer? or the pinion is slitghly different?

  • @renatotradico3003
    @renatotradico30034 ай бұрын

    Hi ...thanks ...beautiful tutorial. Where i can find this mode ? Thanks

  • @Daniel200583
    @Daniel2005832 жыл бұрын

    How wide is the strap on the t300rs?

  • @stefanorinaldi3121
    @stefanorinaldi3121 Жыл бұрын

    E possibile sostituire anche la cinghia con una più resistente?

  • @xnitro6794
    @xnitro67942 жыл бұрын

    is there a way to get these from or to the usa they dont post to the US

  • @Kinqhome
    @KinqhomeАй бұрын

    Hey man, I was doing the bearings and the first one got stuck in the middle of the rod. I have bought the 693, which was 3x9x3, and it doesnt go all the way in or out. What can I do? edit: glad I have read every comment here to see if anyone has the same problem... sanded the shaft using 240 grit and bearings fits easily

  • @MikeGameOver
    @MikeGameOver4 ай бұрын

    So this is not a kit? Sounds awesome but it not really having any support worries me to try.

  • @sinceredevotee198
    @sinceredevotee1982 жыл бұрын

    Всем привет. А где вообще можно найти какой диаметр руля применяется в ралли?

  • @RheaTempleton
    @RheaTempleton Жыл бұрын

    Can you use bearing size 3mm 8mm 4mm?

  • @MRDEEGAMING
    @MRDEEGAMING2 жыл бұрын

    Just ordered them now after fixing my wheel there is also another belt that has 2 tensioners I wonder if they can be changed as well I've got a spare one here will have a look to see if there the same size and let you no

  • @user-ej5wl8zd1w

    @user-ej5wl8zd1w

    2 жыл бұрын

    Hello. Were you able to replace the other tensioners?

  • @darreng75

    @darreng75

    2 жыл бұрын

    Any luck on them fitting

  • @SOGAVII
    @SOGAVII6 ай бұрын

    Здравствуйте,какой ремень нужен для т300? Что бы заменить ремни в руле

  • @preslavnedyalkov5432
    @preslavnedyalkov54322 жыл бұрын

    does the diameter of the gears on the new pulley have to be exactly 14.5mm or can they also be 14.77mm cuz i found one on ali for cheaper.

  • @simpulse5825

    @simpulse5825

    2 жыл бұрын

    I'm not sure to be honest. The cost of the gears are fairly low. Although the difference between those two figures is minimal so I would imagine it would be fine.

  • @user-jw5dw6lq1e
    @user-jw5dw6lq1e8 ай бұрын

    Those 5mm washers made of plastic, Nylon?

  • @miguelrn1997
    @miguelrn19972 жыл бұрын

    What is the advantage of replacing the plastic pinion with the aluminum one? the plastic one is certainly lighter

  • @user-mw7uq3nl4n

    @user-mw7uq3nl4n

    10 ай бұрын

    In first revision this plastic pulley is shit, the hole not on mid of pulley, this give our some vibration & maybee noise, the weight difference is only few grams, it not matter

  • @NWA_1919
    @NWA_19199 ай бұрын

    has anyone done this to the ts-xw/ts-pc base?

  • @fanatik362
    @fanatik362 Жыл бұрын

    Hmm, and what if you make my T150 completely belt-like the T300

  • @ady.marwan
    @ady.marwan2 жыл бұрын

    Hi, for the pinion, is it 16 teeth? Also, I cant seem to find the same width of 11mm, most are 10mm or 14mm.. Must it be 11mm, and if can be different, should I pick the one more or less than 11mm? Next one, for the bearings, I found 693ZZ MR83, but the size is 3mm x 8mm x 4mm.. Is it ok? Or should I source for 3x8x3?

  • @CidiousX

    @CidiousX

    2 жыл бұрын

    This will work. I used these before. They fit better than the 3x8x3 but to make it perfect you should actually look for 3x9x4 to mimic the same size as the plastic rollers.

  • @Graphwize

    @Graphwize

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@CidiousX Should I buy 16mm or 11mm?

  • @StevieRageQuit
    @StevieRageQuit2 жыл бұрын

    Quick question what thickness are the washers you used ?

  • @simpulse5825

    @simpulse5825

    2 жыл бұрын

    They were very thin, less than a mm thick. I guess the thickness will be relative to the size of the washer bore.

  • @jorn-jorenjorenson5028
    @jorn-jorenjorenson50282 жыл бұрын

    Thanks a lot for the video! I have ordered all parts and tried the mod, but unfortunately the bearings do not fit on the shafts. Bearings are said to be 3x8x3, but it seems to me the shafts are 3.1mm or 3.2mm. They are very tight, maybe I could hammer them on, but I don't think that would be a good idea. It looks like, your bearings slide over the shafts easily, right? Probably have to find other bearings.

  • @simpulse5825

    @simpulse5825

    2 жыл бұрын

    Hi, the ones I used are definitely the 3x8x3 and yes they slid on easily. Don't hammer them on! I'm not sure why yours won't fit. Are they definitely the size you ordered?

  • @jorn-jorenjorenson5028

    @jorn-jorenjorenson5028

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@simpulse5825 Hi, thanks for your reply! Yes, maybe I got delivered wrong bearings, will try again with a different shop. Good to know they should go on easy, so I won't try with force. But I wouldn't use a hammer on my T300, anyway. : ) Cheers!

  • @thedave7760

    @thedave7760

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@jorn-jorenjorenson5028 Find a micrometer and check the diameter of the shaft, sometimes manufacturers change the spec of certain parts over time. Let me knoe if this is worth it please I have just gotten a T300 and it is lush but could it be better?

  • @CidiousX

    @CidiousX

    2 жыл бұрын

    use a bit of 600 grit sandpaper and sand the shafts down a bit. Finish with 1200. And a bit of WD40 when sliding them on did the trick for me.

  • @wulokchun

    @wulokchun

    2 жыл бұрын

    In my case, one side of the bearings can be put on very easily, another side's a little bit tight-fitting where I need to hammer them on.

  • @davidtran8206
    @davidtran8206 Жыл бұрын

    did this mod and afterwards the Top Dead Centre (TDC) kept on getting off centered while in the game, anybody able to permanently fix this issue?

  • @dallasalexander2894

    @dallasalexander2894

    Жыл бұрын

    I would say you have not applied enough tension to the belt, and the belt is jumping a tooth at times. I had this when i first repaired my pinion. Particuarly noticable from drifting or high FFB settings. There is a way to recalibrate tdc, i did this when re installing everything, but if your TDC is changing id say your belt is jumping a tooth.

  • @polo199199
    @polo1991992 жыл бұрын

    Hi. I'm planning on doing the same mods but I'm a bit worried about the pulley not being D-shapped. Is that going to hold up well with just the screws to tighten it all? Nobody mentions that in their videos/tutorials. Anybody has some insight about that?

  • @simpulse5825

    @simpulse5825

    2 жыл бұрын

    It wasn't D shaped on the one i used, but I've been using it for months now and it's solid. The grub screws hold on tightly enough

  • @polo199199

    @polo199199

    2 жыл бұрын

    Hey @@simpulse5825 , thanks for your answer and your tutorial. :)

  • @BabblingBubbles01

    @BabblingBubbles01

    2 жыл бұрын

    The pinion has 2 retaining nuts. Line one up on the flat side of the D and it holds great.

  • @user-jw5dw6lq1e
    @user-jw5dw6lq1e7 ай бұрын

    I tried to replace the bearings nut ended up braking the whole damn thing. Are you sure the 3mm*8mm*3mm is the correct size? It was a little tight and now I’m trying to contact thrustmaster to replace the bracket so that I can try again. I’m thinking of ordering 3.5mm*8mm*3mm bearings if they exist or a suitable replacement.

  • @arturczech871

    @arturczech871

    19 күн бұрын

    3x8x4

  • @gster109
    @gster1092 жыл бұрын

    How much of an upgrade is it in your opinion ? Worth it? Could you explain all the differences you felt?

  • @simpulse5825

    @simpulse5825

    2 жыл бұрын

    It definitely feels smoother and quieter. The feeling is less notchy. I would say it isn't necessarily a game changer but for such little cost and an easy process, it is worth it. As recommended elsewhere, putting grease on the worm gear also helps smoothness and sound so I will be doing that next.

  • @gster109

    @gster109

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@simpulse5825 thanks for the reply man, could you please help me find links on ali express? I found the big piece but the 6 bearings & washers im having a hard time with.

  • @simpulse5825

    @simpulse5825

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@gster109 I would use ebay but I did find these on aliexpress if that's where you want to get them from: m.aliexpress.com/item/32761032312.html?spm=a2g0n.productlist.0.0.26ff4e31Ge5K54&browser_id=c6611d8535fc4a09ab458dbf1f632ddc&aff_trace_key=933bbec31c6e4858aaf532a3846352f5-1640640966723-00954-UneMJZVf&aff_platform=msite&m_page_id=jjfif3qfcdmcavx717e57fff0031174152571e24aa&gclid= It is the 3mm x 8mm x 3mm you will need

  • @gster109

    @gster109

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@simpulse5825 Appreciate you man, subbed.

  • @vinvinudu77
    @vinvinudu776 ай бұрын

    hi do you know if this work with the ps5 version of the t300rs aswell ?

  • @user-tm1vi3fh2i

    @user-tm1vi3fh2i

    4 ай бұрын

    yes

  • @TheSoldize
    @TheSoldize2 жыл бұрын

    is this also for Thrustmaster TS-XW Wheelbase???

  • @user-mw7uq3nl4n

    @user-mw7uq3nl4n

    Жыл бұрын

    Посмотрите на Ютубе видео по разборке, если устройство натяжителей такое же, то это должно подойти.

  • @fregisz
    @fregisz2 жыл бұрын

    if you put washers (from splastic roller) between bearings you will get less sound. Also you forgot upgrade other belt tensioner to bearings.

  • @simpulse5825

    @simpulse5825

    2 жыл бұрын

    That's next to be done, but it's a bigger job as you have to take the wheel apart further

  • @fregisz

    @fregisz

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@simpulse5825 No you dont need, just remove front panel. 4-6 bolt in front, and 2 bolts in bottom. p.s. was two types shafts, so no all bearings will work. but i suggest go for needle bearing.

  • @simpulse5825

    @simpulse5825

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@fregisz I'll take a look, thanks for that

  • @DjWoody44
    @DjWoody44 Жыл бұрын

    Hello . I have one quistion , I can only push My barings about 2 mm down ,they dont slide down . Is it a good idea to use force to get then in place .

  • @simpulse5825

    @simpulse5825

    Жыл бұрын

    They should slide on easily if they are the right size. There will be some slight resistance but excessive force shouldn't be needed

  • @DjWoody44

    @DjWoody44

    Жыл бұрын

    @@simpulse5825 thanks for the answering . I must just try once more

  • @DjWoody44

    @DjWoody44

    Жыл бұрын

    Danm I hate My TM t300 gt now ...

  • @riccardosantambrogio1807

    @riccardosantambrogio1807

    Жыл бұрын

    Same problem with mine, the left shaft seems larger after the top and the bearing won’t slide

  • @riccardosantambrogio1807

    @riccardosantambrogio1807

    Жыл бұрын

    Today's Update: I've sanded with 230-500 grit sandpaper the shaft till the bearing can fit. No problem at all. Only a bit tricky to recenter the wheel after removing the motor and the belt

  • @wolo
    @wolo2 жыл бұрын

    The bearings, ok. But what for one would want to change the pinion to a metal one? It will work the same, only the metal weights more and has definitely an impact to the characteristics / engine's momentum / torque so I would expect it can discalibrate ffb, at least in some degree. I wouldn't change that, especially without any directly specified reason. Also I think the plastic one runs smoother in contact with a rubber belt. So I'd rather go other way and change metal one to plastic, if it was the case.

  • @escalator9734

    @escalator9734

    2 жыл бұрын

    In my t300 and for a lot of people, the original plastic pinion's bore is off center which make the steering uneven

  • @wolo

    @wolo

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@escalator9734 ok that case makes sense

  • @ianbarnes6266

    @ianbarnes6266

    Жыл бұрын

    Unfortunately your opinion has no impact, weighed the pinions and the Aluminium Pinion which is found on most FDM 3D printers was 2g lighter than the Nylon pinion.

  • @wolo

    @wolo

    Жыл бұрын

    @@ianbarnes6266 So, it would then decalibrate ffb in another direction, maybe. Assuming it does, then it doesn't matter if the pinion is heavier or lighter, what matters is that it differs from the device's design base parameters calculations. And so - it must have some impact to the whole mechanism, from the law of physics point of view. Maybe that impact is negligible, maybe not. Can't say for sure without lab tests and pro measuring tools. But definitely such impact exists.

  • @Lykkanw

    @Lykkanw

    Жыл бұрын

    ​@@wolo you're over thinking it. For one, it's spinning in place so the weight is centered, and it's not free-spinning, it's spinning an entire wheel. If it was free-spinning, the weight would hold contribute to its ability to speed up and slow down, like a flywheel, but it's driving the mechanism & has to overcome that. Source: I've rebuilt engines, built several 3d printers / cnc machines etc. For "Decalibration" that only happens if you remove the belt from top-dead-center with the assembly, they get out of sync. Someone else here mentioned how to calibrate it again if that happens.

  • @davethestalker
    @davethestalker2 жыл бұрын

    Will these parts work for the T500?

  • @simpulse5825

    @simpulse5825

    2 жыл бұрын

    I'm not sure as I haven't seen the internals of a T500, but I believe they are the same as the T300, apart from having fixed paddles.

  • @flippy9133
    @flippy91332 жыл бұрын

    wouldnt the metal pinion be worse for the belt? Can you even get replacement belts if it shreds it?

  • @greed6920

    @greed6920

    Жыл бұрын

    there should be plenty of sites that sell parametric belts

  • @Lykkanw

    @Lykkanw

    Жыл бұрын

    if you had catostrophic failure, either the belt or the plastic gear would break, not ideal. If the belt skips a tooth your calibration will be out of sync with wheels position, so no, a metal gear is not any worse. These pinions are the same ones we use on 3D printers and their belts.

  • @flippy9133

    @flippy9133

    Жыл бұрын

    @@Lykkanw 3d printers have much less torque than the wheel tho

  • @Lykkanw

    @Lykkanw

    Жыл бұрын

    @@flippy9133 the stepper motor on a 3d printer / cnc machine has a D groove, as the stepper motor itself sees much more load than on these wheels. These wheels use a faster spinning motor with a small gear that turns a very large gear. That is gear reduction, the 3d printers see much more torque @ the motor. 3D printers do not need gear reduction (though the filament extruder does, but it's all metal gears and no belt)

  • @T0rdal

    @T0rdal

    6 ай бұрын

    some 3d printers 100% do and alot of cnc also use belts even giant once all with metal gears if you ever tried to rip or even damage a parametric belts even one 1/4 of this width you would feel how durable they are ( ther mainly made for use with medal gears)@@Lykkanw

  • @jctinkler88
    @jctinkler882 жыл бұрын

    Hi. Where can you buy the metal motor pinion?

  • @simpulse5825

    @simpulse5825

    2 жыл бұрын

    I got it on ebay. Link in the description :)

  • @jctinkler88

    @jctinkler88

    2 жыл бұрын

    Thanks sim pulse. I didn't click the drop down menu 🙄

  • @RALISTAS123
    @RALISTAS1232 жыл бұрын

    Is more better feeling after change rolls?

  • @simpulse5825

    @simpulse5825

    2 жыл бұрын

    It is much smoother and quieter and feels less toy-like

  • @mikasaari5379
    @mikasaari53792 жыл бұрын

    Hi! I changed upper gear to aluminum but I keeped tenioners to original. And I greased the worm gear on middle, too. Now my rim isn't straight after calibration progress. Feeling is pretty much better with tightened belt.

  • @ramosnato
    @ramosnato2 жыл бұрын

    where did you buy that mod kit?

  • @barra190kw6
    @barra190kw62 жыл бұрын

    This should work for the tmx yeah ?

  • @simpulse5825

    @simpulse5825

    2 жыл бұрын

    I believe so as long as it is belt driven and has the plastic rollers.

  • @benesetto6932
    @benesetto69322 жыл бұрын

    Follow up video on this pleasee

  • @simpulse5825

    @simpulse5825

    2 жыл бұрын

    I'll try, although I've forgotten what it was like before! 😅

  • @davol9666
    @davol96662 жыл бұрын

    Does this mod make the wheel lighter?

  • @Sithhy

    @Sithhy

    2 жыл бұрын

    It makes the steering wheel roll easier as there's less friction between the belt & pulleys

  • @wulokchun

    @wulokchun

    2 жыл бұрын

    No but smoother

  • @max-3816
    @max-38162 жыл бұрын

    How much is the difference in ffb compared to the default?

  • @simpulse5825

    @simpulse5825

    2 жыл бұрын

    I wouldn't say it's stronger ffb, just smoother and quieter. The fact that it's smoother maybe gives you a bit more detail

  • @max-3816

    @max-3816

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@simpulse5825 Thanks for the response! By the way, I have a crispy sound on my wheel, when I turn it, this sound appeared like 1 week ago, I bought my wheel a little bit more than 1 year ago, but I don’t feel any problems in the ffb. Should I worry about this or I can just leave it?

  • @barra190kw6

    @barra190kw6

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@max-3816 try updating the firmware

  • @max-3816

    @max-3816

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@barra190kw6 I updated it like 2 weeks ago, and it’s gone now lol

  • @ruslanbro20

    @ruslanbro20

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@max-3816 Do you have an updated firmware on mode ps3 (PC) LED indicator glows red or green?

  • @TORE-ACTIV-
    @TORE-ACTIV- Жыл бұрын

    👍

  • @Skullmissile47
    @Skullmissile47 Жыл бұрын

    Hi about the 3M-16T how many teeth should i buy? 16teeth-5MM of 20teeth-5MM? (edit) also there is only pack of 4 bearings and pack of 10 bearings which one should i choose?

  • @matteotorre2506
    @matteotorre2506 Жыл бұрын

    Does force feedback improve with this upgrade? Is it more stable and with less dips? For now I changed the fan by putting the Noctua and it improved a bit. I would like to know if it is worth doing this upgrade also for the optimal force feedback performance. Let me know your opinion as soon as you can and congratulations for the guide👏😃🍾

  • @soobyt

    @soobyt

    Жыл бұрын

    glaube nicht das es ein großen unterschied macht

  • @PabloHamburg
    @PabloHamburg2 жыл бұрын

    Well I removed the bearings instead of replacing them… and its working much smoother without any problems… So I found out that apparently you don’t really need any bearings at all… 🤷🏻‍♂️

  • @kostakhc

    @kostakhc

    2 жыл бұрын

    Did u have to rise the motor for the belt to be stiff? . Is still everything working alright?

  • @PabloHamburg

    @PabloHamburg

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@kostakhc hey, yes! just remove the bearings, rise the motor up for 2mm will be enough and tight it. I drive for 3 weeks like this and I don’t have any problems with… I can definitely Recommend👍🏼

  • @kostakhc

    @kostakhc

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@PabloHamburg hey mate , great to hear all working fine , could you please explain what different you feel without the bearings? Is it worth? ..ive read some cases where peoole getting off centre after tensioning the belt 😬 😅

  • @ryanknutson912

    @ryanknutson912

    2 жыл бұрын

    Hi and thanks for the video, it gave me confidence to go ahead and just do it. Did you also do the bearings on the bottom belt and add lithium grease to the worm gear?

  • @jlmarco7552
    @jlmarco75522 жыл бұрын

    3x8x3 is too small on my t300, replace with 3x8x4

  • @CidiousX

    @CidiousX

    2 жыл бұрын

    3x9x4 is even better. Since the official rollers are 9mm.

  • @wulokchun

    @wulokchun

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@CidiousX You are right, 9mm outer diameter is closer to the original roller's size rather than 8mm. I tried 3x9x4mm bearings without any washers are great, but seem to be a little bit thicker. I can't put the original C-Clip on properly because of the thickness, but I replaced it with a very thin rubber O-Ring and it's work.

  • @lastdimestudios
    @lastdimestudios Жыл бұрын

    Do these parts work for the t150?

  • @user-mw7uq3nl4n

    @user-mw7uq3nl4n

    Жыл бұрын

    For t150 u need 3x9x4 without any pad's

  • @lastdimestudios

    @lastdimestudios

    Жыл бұрын

    @@user-mw7uq3nl4n cheers you legend!

  • @BluFrost8888

    @BluFrost8888

    Жыл бұрын

    What about the Pinon size with the T150? That size is only about the ball bearings which I got 3x8x4 to fit perfectly

  • @lastdimestudios

    @lastdimestudios

    Жыл бұрын

    @@BluFrost8888 so pleased you commented here!

  • @user-mw7uq3nl4n

    @user-mw7uq3nl4n

    9 ай бұрын

    ​@@BluFrost8888 i do not recommend installing pulley for t150, the parameter's is 16teeth bore 3.175 width like a belt 9mm. I don't recommend do that because u need to do some space between motor, because shaft too short, and this didn't have a meaning, the gears on t150 is not symmetry (i see that when open mine) and main vibration going from gear. the belt profile on my is MXL but i see one dude from gtplanet who t150 have the gt3 or 2 belt(i don't remember)

  • @tpaelo2926
    @tpaelo2926 Жыл бұрын

    Will that pinion gear fit the TMX FFB wheel?

  • @BluFrost8888

    @BluFrost8888

    Жыл бұрын

    It does NOT fit, this size is too wide for the belt to be able to go around it and too long for the motor shaft which is exactly the same as on my T150. The T300 uses a differently modelled motor tension area than those because it's fully belt-driven and more powerful.

  • @xnitro6794
    @xnitro67942 жыл бұрын

    so what does this mod accomplish?

  • @simpulse5825

    @simpulse5825

    2 жыл бұрын

    Smoother feel, less notchiness and less noise while turning

  • @xnitro6794

    @xnitro6794

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@simpulse5825 is there a way to get these from or to the usa they dont post to the US

  • @puresim316nosimracingnolif3

    @puresim316nosimracingnolif3

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@simpulse5825 will this work on t500rs

  • @simpulse5825

    @simpulse5825

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@puresim316nosimracingnolif3 it should do. I believe the internals are the same

  • @puresim316nosimracingnolif3

    @puresim316nosimracingnolif3

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@simpulse5825 ok thanks

  • @EazyDuz18
    @EazyDuz182 жыл бұрын

    you need to upgrade the crappy fan

  • @wulokchun

    @wulokchun

    2 жыл бұрын

    I have already replaced the fan to Noctua NF-A6x25 PWM, when I was doing this upgrade at the same time.

  • @TryNotToHate1
    @TryNotToHate12 жыл бұрын

    Who would ever even be able to tell the difference here on this type of mod?

  • @CidiousX
    @CidiousX2 жыл бұрын

    Please don't do this mod exactly as described. The parts sizes are not correct. The bearings are smaller than the original rollers and because of this it's practically impossible to find a balance between tension and smooth operation. The belt will start skafing. And since you can't tighten it properly otherwise you'll have teeth skipping issues. 9mm bearings would be a better option, since the rollers are acutally 9mm and not 8... I used three 3x9x4 per side without the black rings. It's a perfect fit. the lock ring goes on tightly. This mimics the orignals perfectly but smoother. The smaller 3x8x3 ones are not even touching most of the belt width.

  • @simpulse5825

    @simpulse5825

    2 жыл бұрын

    Since I did the mod as described, the wheel has been absolutely spot on. I even recently used an un-modified T300 for the first time since I did it and it felt notchy, light ffb and just generally more toy-like. I'm not advocating that everyone must do this, it's just my own experience of it. I agree if you can find 3x9x4 bearings then that would be ideal, but I made it work with washers and it has worked flawlessly.

  • @CidiousX

    @CidiousX

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@simpulse5825 Thanks for the respojnse! So it's maybe a bit of hit and miss. It didn't work for mine so I came back here. Don't get me completely wrong. I'm grateful for the inspiration for the mod and the careful walkthrough guidance you have released here. I just wanted to point out a slight adjustment in the sizes of the bearings to make it actually replicate the old system but smoother. Without skipping or skafing of the belt.

  • @Daniel200583

    @Daniel200583

    2 жыл бұрын

    When i put three 3x9x4 on the shaft, i cant put the Clipring on it. How do you get this to work?

  • @vrnuts1880

    @vrnuts1880

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@Daniel200583 please let me know if you get an answer to your question about how to get the lock ring on the end? I just ordered 3x9x4 in anticipation of doing this mod in a few days. I hope you hear back

  • @dallasalexander2894

    @dallasalexander2894

    Жыл бұрын

    While it is true that the bearings in this video are smaller than the rollers, you are not taking into account the radial movement the original rollers have. On an old and well used t300 there will be more movement. On my t300 that has had 6 months use, there would have easily been 0.5mm of radial play in the rollers, hence i do not think the 1mm smaller (0.5mm each side) bearings are an issue.

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