"Let's Get To It" the point where the manufacturers quiver and hope Barry goes gentle on them as no stone goes unturned.

@TrevorJones1

4 жыл бұрын

13:45 "I'm liking what i see here!" ..the point where manufactures pop the champagne and spray each other with them.

@dylanzrim1011

4 жыл бұрын

Try watching AVE tool testing. He reads the box, pulls it apart, tells you how they lied, then puts it back together in the hopes it still works.

Just started watching Barry and I got to say this guys hands down the best Sim reviewer out there.

@ct8618

4 жыл бұрын

For sure! This guy and Will from Boosted Media. They dont fuck around, they give proper in depth reviews.

@t8365

4 жыл бұрын

@@ct8618 for real, the guys a beast...👌

@vinzvega5614

3 жыл бұрын

Totally agree in x1,25 ;)

@Skippy-id9yt

3 жыл бұрын

His voice is soooo ......hypnotic.....lol...

@hook86

3 жыл бұрын

Hell yes he is!

13:21 To manually switch your racing wheel base from T2PA / T3PA / T3PA-Pro mode to T-LCM mode, simultaneously press the downshift (left) paddle on the wheel + the MODE button on your wheel base for 3 seconds. This will allow the pedals to work at a 16 bit resolution, if you have the latest firmware installed (v31.00)! 28:23 To calibrate, the pedals must be connected directly to the PC via the USB cable. Calibration tool won't work with the RJ12 connection type! After calibration, you can reconnect the pedals and the wheel base with the RJ12 cable, because the settings you selected during calibration are already saved in the pedal’s internal memory.

@smoky2640

2 жыл бұрын

buddy, i cant thank you enough for it.

@emilebrands3743

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks! :)

@vitusstolberg636

2 жыл бұрын

How do you know if it is in tlcm mode?

@Isamaru7

Жыл бұрын

@@vitusstolberg636 if you unplug und plug the base in the usb port, the red light on the left of the bease blinks 10 times

@vitusstolberg636

Жыл бұрын

@@Isamaru7 thx

Really nice to see Thrustmaster finally stepping up to Loadcell Pedals. This was long overdue! Price is okay for what it is, but I'd like to see less plastic and more metal on these. Nice Review as always Barry!

@revirdkcalb

4 жыл бұрын

I think there's a good chance that we will see a more metal "pro" version of this in the future, but that would obviously cost more, probably like $100-125 more.

@rcg1469

4 жыл бұрын

@@revirdkcalb I hope your right.

@BobbyDuwitz

4 жыл бұрын

@@rcg1469 just get the fanatec cs elite lc pedals, they're $200 and all metal

@waqidj

4 жыл бұрын

Yes

@laos85

4 жыл бұрын

Thrustmaster is kinda ok when it comes to their sim game equipment. Fanatec is the king of commerical pedals.

Im watching reviews mostly not for the product but the way how it is presented by host. Just pure joy to watch :)

Found this channel recently and gotta say he is the best sim reviewer. So detailed with an added bonus of Bob Ross kind of vibe there. Loving it.

I'm impressed at how you are always so detailed in every video.

Sir, your reviews are absolutely amazing, helped me to go for the T300, now Im checking out this pedals

Was looking into buying these and found this video, really nice to see the detail you went into covering all the different parts and giving your thoughts. Thanks!

On closer inspection it looks like the brake pedal is mounted onto a metal bracket that is screwed into the plastic base, to help it withstand the higher load compared to the throttle and clutch. You should probably add an annotation to clarify this as I, and probably many others, initially thought all the pedals were on plastic pivots.

This dude always explains everything so chill and really goes into detail! Love your garage man! Me jelly :) lol

I would really like to see these pedal reviews with the sim motion turned off for a minute or two. That way we'd be able to see how much actual flex are in the pedals and heel plates.

@SaartjeandRufus

2 жыл бұрын

good point

I love how you are so absolutely calm And zen as a person, yet an absolute S A V A G E on the rig. Thanks for this video

love this channel, no annoying background music, well presented, knowledgeable .. spot on mate .. Subbed

Many thanks! Got problems over problems with fanatec. I think, I should give these pedals a try.

This is why I love YT, to get proper in depth reviews and information. Well done guys. Subscription of this channel is already done. :D

Great video, thank you for the thorough breakdown & detail. Finally received my pedals this week. This video allowed me to remove the ballast: I have a Playseat Challenge and frequently transport it upstairs & downstairs and back, and need it as light as possible. Also, I like a stiffer throttle (than what is on the T3PA), and I haven't used the clutch pedal as I don't have experience driving with it, so I was able to switch the 2 springs between them. Cheers

You are the Bob Ross of Sim Racing. I love your videos.

Thanks as always for your detailed reviews Barry.

Thanks for this video, you helped me solve a problem that occurred the other day with my brake pedal - the set screw underneath that forms the block to keep the pedal from going too far forward had somehow loosened to the point that all my springs flopped loose. :)

You sir are absolutely fantastic, I love your videos and information and the way it is deliverd. Thank you for doing this for us! Best regards

Dude's the Bob Ross of sim racing. Review style and info is unmatched.

Excellent review. I am going to invest in the T300RS GT set very soon. And after watching this, will definitely be upgrading the pedal set to the load cell unit! Cheers.

Thorough review, as always. Thank you!

Reminds me of Bob Ross, but for sim racing, so thorough and such a soothing voice to listen to. appreciate the time you took with this review and all of your reviews

nice, very informative video. i know it is over 3 years old but i still wanted to say thank you and i really like your calm voice :) youre an all around cool guy! im about to buy one of these.

First time viewer here. Excellent video! I love the way its organised into sections and looks at each aspect of the pedals in depth. Very well thought out :) I'm here because im returning to sim racing and researching my new setup.

The sir david attenborough of sim racing 👌🏼🙌

Saw the video length and thought this would be a drag. I was absolutely wrong, this was an incredible video with a perfect amount of detail, thank you so much for the in-depth review, I've constantly been having issues with pots and now I think I know what my next investment is. Cheers :)

Loving the videos Barry. Thank you.

Glad to see a highend hardware expert spend time with the mass production gear Thrustmaster still serves me well TS-PC racer an T3pa pro an TH8A shifter

Best information and instructional video I have ever watched Hands Down!

First video I've watched of yours. Brilliant video with so much detail! 2 things from me: 1. I love how you're an esk8er like me (saw the LaCroix in the background!) 2. I saw lots of movement side to side when you were using the pedals as you highlighted. For £179.99 it's worth it but I'd rather invest a little more and get something more robust! Cheers for the great video again. I'm subscribed :D

Best review on KZread. Thanks, man. Cheers from Brazil! 🇧🇷🤝🏁

Love this video, it includes all I was looking for, good job !!

Thanks Barry! Thorough as always.

Another great review Barry! I love the reviews

Oh man my T3PA Pro arrives tomorrow. Why didn't I get this video 2 days ago!! Oh well my next pedal set to buy next year. Thanks for the informative review! :)

I love your review , i love your cockpit and i love ur simracing skills! Great work man!

Barry you’re such a tease, I wanna see your thoughts on that Porsche wheel and how it compares to the normal Fanatec Quick Release, and I want to see the setup for that DOF rig! Jokes aside, good to see that you’re still looking at all the different price ranges. I’m sure many people will find this review very helpful!

Thank you great review to learn a bit more about pedals and stuff. Just (re)starting on line racing again after many years. So lot's and lot's to learn . Tech goes so fast ...

Two years later and he is still the best reviewer!

Well done on another thorough review. For me, I'm coming from G25 pedals. I'm now debating over the Ricmotech LC mod for my G25 set or going to this set. The main issue is the use of plastic in the pivot points and the plastic bushings. These will not get tighter with age and in your video, there's already a lot of flex...

Great review, as usual. Love the channel.

8:26 i foresee an haptic feedback addon for the pedals for emulating things like ABS.

On the bottom of the pedals underneath the sticker, there is a threaded rod that is tightened down by a nut, that acts as the stopper for the brake pedals return travel. You can adjust it to get more room where the springs would go. Really useful if you want to use different bushings, etc to give it a little bit of a firmer feel

I like that the gas and clutch pedals feel the same. Good if one wants to use the same set of pedals for both flight and race sims.

subbed just for the intro.. amazing sound

Barry, you’re the man! Watching your videos is so enlightening, educational and at the same time therapeutical👍 if you ever decide to look for another profession, I’m sure you would do just as well in radio or TV hehe. Congrats for the beautiful job you do reviewing all these products. I’m a big fan! Joe from Brazil😀

Mans voice is so soothing even on my sound system, best reviewer out there when It comes to in depth sim racing equipment reviews

I see Barry's new video notification, i wear my robe, turn down the lights, put a glass of Jack Daniel's and sit back on the couch...

I like your reviews a lot, but I have a criticism to make. I bought this pedals soon after your review. Now, almost an year latter, my break pedal started to have a forward resting point, so forward that the load cell rod disconnected from the pedal at the back. Opened it up, expenting to find a bend plastic or something like that, because the force caused by the two red springs is very strong when you don't have a little play in the middle spring (deadzone). My surprise was the break pedal assembly is fully metal and there is an adjustable resting point screw, accessible from the bottom (without opening the structure). That's not emphatized in the review, and should have been - it's a fundamental characteristic of this pedals - the load cell, with very strong metal struture (the middle mounting point of this set is to suport the brake pedal even further). I have much more confidence in theses pedals, and recommend it to anyone.

@dobbo4596

Жыл бұрын

Hi, i recently had the same issue with pedal being loose and the resting point screw needed to be tightend up but i did notice it has (or mine does) a red what looks like thread lock and i would assume this needs to be re-applied. Also if you tighten the screw to far it will apply pressure to the load cell kinda as if you was resting your foot on it so i backed it off a touch to the correct point using the calibration tool. Hopefully you see this as i am wondering if the screw came loose again after you adjusted yours?

@jopereirapt

Жыл бұрын

@@dobbo4596 No, until now the nail polish did the job. It should have something from the start...

I have these and they’re as solid as the real ones on my old S2000. Sometimes I think the high end sim equipment is actually better than what you’d get on a real car, and paradoxically somewhat unrealistic. Case in point: Very few cars have adjustable pedals of any sort. You just deal with it.

@greengringolr

Жыл бұрын

The high end stuff is supposed to mimic race cars not road cars

Thanks for the thorough review! I already see how people gonna start selling the same kind of spring sets for throttle and clutch too, because the design of how these pedals travel is kind of the same, they're just hidden under the top cover. That would be the first thing I'd buy to make this pedalset almost ideal.

it is 100kg pressure on the loadcell but due to the lever of the pedals it's less kg at the pedal itself. I'm curious how much it is. I don't like that some pedal manufacturers only advertise their products with the force their loadcell is capable of and not how much kg is needed on the pedal to get 100kg on the loadcell. Heusinkveld is open about it. The HE Sprint have a 120kg loadcell in the brake pedal and you actually need 64kg on the break pedal to achieve this. Looking at the T-LCM I would say it would be around 40kg to maximum 50kg effective pressure possible on the brake pedal. Edit: after taking some measures, taking some angles into account and trying some maths I get around 60 to 65kg pedal pressure to get 100kg on the loadcell... phew..

@christiandom31

2 жыл бұрын

Surprise...Surprise !!!!😁...phew!!!

Hey Barry. I like SMG reviews but as for pedal reviews exclusively, I would say its hard to see the flexing and movement of parts during test when the cockpit is moving. Maybe puting the camera fixed to the rig would fix this.

@BobbyDuwitz

4 жыл бұрын

you can see the flex clearly when he tests the pedals in the Thrustmaster settings

great review, as always. this is a very promising set of pedals, considering my background of owning and modifying various pedal sets including ClubSport and Elite LC. For the price this set seems to be the best and most versatile. From this review I can see that it's very easy to invert them - swap the wires on pcb, springs and plates for brake and clutch, done. Barry missed one thing: the brake plate can be adjusted up and down - there 4 sets of holes for bolts in the pedal arm itself, all arms actually. Looking to buy this set for the fun project - take out arms with pcbs and building three separate metal bases for each pedal to get rid of all plastic and be able to move and mount them individually. ClubSport pedals are good as is, but on my set both springs are snapped and loadcell died. On Elite LC pedal set pots are not consistent and pedals have movement at pivot points, so I made a single pedal out of damaged ClubSports for gas/accelerator and use two pcbs now - one for CS gas and vibration motors, another one for Elite LC brake, clutch and Fanatec handbrake. Also on my Fanatec SQ shifter the spring snapped for its Sequencial function, and on my CSL Elite PS4 wheel rim built-it display stopped working which made it impossible to adjust the settings. Not a pleasant experience for me with Fanatec products ( except the CSL Elite PS4 wheel base - it's awesome for my needs). these T-LCMs are great for the price, but I can't find them anywhere in the states at this moment. wonder when they go on sale? P. S. Got them from Microcenter.

@corwinblack4072

3 жыл бұрын

Yea, my first thought was that its just rather simple plastic base, but solid HW in it, so why not simply build metal housing for it. Think thats not that hard to do.

I remember modding my t3pa pedals with transmission springs to make the clutch and acceleration pedal stiffer they are color based for stiffness and for the break pedal I used a old top hat bushing I trimmed down to fit the slot under the pedal they still work great today

@valentusslimroast6716

4 жыл бұрын

I would like to make my t3pa throttle and clutch stiffer ...do you know the exact springs you use?

@thijsazerty692

4 жыл бұрын

@@valentusslimroast6716 ricmotech.com/Spring_Upgrade_for_Thrustmaster_Pedals_p/rmt-t3papro-tcs.htm

@thijsazerty692

4 жыл бұрын

@@valentusslimroast6716 ricmotech => Spring_Upgrade_for_Thrustmaster_Pedals_p/rmt-t3papro-tcs.htm

Thank you Barry.

That mounting bracket (if im not mistaken) to make this pedal set compatible with existing Thrustmaster mounting holes, my F-GT cockpit has pre drilled holes for Thrustmaster pedals. Makes the mounting hardware backwards compatible without having to drill

mine arrived and brake green RAW value is at 19.0 without any pressure,.....are they faulty?

These might be a good entry level load cell choice here in Canada, where Fanatec products cost far more than in the US due to expensive shipping and duties. Even a set of CSL Elite LC pedals ends up costing something like $400-450 CDN here once they get to your door, never mind the Clubsports! At that point you might as well get Heusinkveld Sprints... I'll be interested to see what these retail for here, could be very interesting to anyone looking to upgrade from T3PAs or a Logitech pedal set.

@eattca738

4 жыл бұрын

$275 CDN on pre-order

@chriscorbin5238

4 жыл бұрын

Not sure where you live but this place in Markham, Ontario called Simulation1 has these for a $270 pre-order sale... planning making a stop there myself. The CSL are going for 350 at the same place

@stevestigcz9399

4 жыл бұрын

@@chriscorbin5238 kzread.info/dash/bejne/i5l1zpukeqaoZZc.html custom diy pedals 300 euro

@stevestigcz9399

4 жыл бұрын

mega.nz/file/6LAE1AKT#nzdwMp5ehb6krzWsXo2AKrLIU0ya2gA9FPZSbzVNWQ4

Hi, don't know if anyone shared the info here, but I've just opened it up to see what was inside the ballast and it's dry cement or concrete, so don't bother to try and fill it with something heavier. Truth is it's just a minor help to anyone who can't screw it on a rig. Without screwing it you have to use the softer spring combination and calibrate it to about 60%. It's still better than a "normal" non load cell but you loose most of it's potencial. If calibration is set to heavier than 60% with the soft spring combination the set keeps lifting. Hope his info helps anyone. Edit: btw concrete from the info I've could understand is about the heavier they could have filled the ballast with, unless they'd poor liquid led in to the ballast. Cheers

@llloralles

3 жыл бұрын

@@SuperBastardSquad Like I said, you won't be able to benefit from it's real potential.

@jelly8594

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks! What's your long time experience with them?

@llloralles

3 жыл бұрын

@@jelly8594 I'm very pleased. I've got the T-Pedals Stand and since they stay against the wall it works very well, no lifting whatsoever.

Nice to see that you can remove the clutch pedal, because I don't need it and it seems like it would interfere with my left foot which I use to brake. Exactly the info I searched for. Thank you!

Very nice review, thanks. Subscribed.

There is definitely a need for a T-LCM PRO fully metal version.

@valentusslimroast6716

4 жыл бұрын

yes!

@rcg1469

4 жыл бұрын

I hope your right!

@MK-lj3jf

4 жыл бұрын

@@rcg1469 get ready to pay an extra 250 bucks for that xD

@bimmergoon

4 жыл бұрын

@@MK-lj3jf Its almost like it cost money to build items with more expensive materials. Imagine that.

@radityaindera3442

4 жыл бұрын

@@bimmergoon I'd have the V3 Fanatec instead of full metal TLCM with that rubbish Clutch.

I could listen to his voice all day

Nice review, and glad to see Thrustmaster up their game! About the mounting points at 8:39 the fith one in the center is to secure to your rig the inner brake pedal steel frame to avoid pedal plate flex and fatigue under hard braking, you can see the bolt on the steel brake pedal frame at 30:20 it must allow better precision too especially while using the harder red springs like you did.

@eSKAone-

3 жыл бұрын

Well observed.

That sound intro gave me chills

The plastic bushings are probably more responsible for the soft feel than the molded plastic mount. Installing brass or bronze bushings instead of the plastic ones would increase the stiffness but would also increase the stress imposed on the plastic mounts. It would be interesting to see then how long the plastic mounts last. I bought a set of these pedals when they hit the market and they are a good loadcell pedal for the price.

Great job Berry can't wait to get my set and try them out with the TG-T comparing them with the V3 and V3 inverted pedals using the Podium. I'm sure the V3 and V3 inverted pedals are far superior but at $200.00 USD I will see if it's worth just getting these pedals compared to $359.99-$599.99, for my fellow sim racers on the fence. I honestly think Thrustmaster did good based on your review. Thanks always for the great review...

NIce driving and review. Crazy the price has stayed the same.

Apex V2R Performance Brake Mod for Thrustmaster T-LCM Pedals: www.apexv2r.com/products/apex-v2r-realistic-brake-feel-mod-for-thrustmaster-t-lcm-pedals

I have a set of T3PA pedals with a loadcell mod installed. Tempted to upgrade for this.

Thankfully I found Barry. Knowing the details of LC and HA pedals + spacers and stiffer springs, I can make an informed choice and not just hope that more expensive means better.

@timashwood9973

2 жыл бұрын

And I can make a metal brace to reinforce the injection-moulded plastics base.

I think these are great for bundling with the TM higher end wheels. As far a buying standalone, I’d probably go with some Fanatec pedals.

I watched a teardown of a Thrustmaster T2 recently. While I never owned one, that level of build quality is familiar to me as someone that started gaming in the '80s. Because of this, the habit of being perhaps a little too gentle on my equipment has become ingrained. I don't tend to slam gear shifters (even in a real car), or stomp on pedals and it took me a while to feel comfortable resisting a force feedback wheel because I thought I might damage it (I still do with higher settings). I'd probably get on okay with this set due to this trait, but part of me thinks I may be better off upgrading to more robust equipment that I'm not afraid to give some abuse.

Great review as always. I was wondering if it would work if you change the spring with a rubber bushing.

Excellent work 💯

Great review! Thanks for your detailed explanation. I´m considering to buy this pedals but I´m between these and the CSL Elite LC. I also saw your CSL Elite review but I'm not finished deciding. What do you think about this T-LCM? Do you think that its lifecycle will be good despite the plastic?

Hi, Great review on the t-lcm pedal set. Can I ask you, I own a t3pa-pro pedal set with a ricmotec loadcell and harder springs for the clutch and gas throttle, so my question is is the t-lcm worth buying over the pedals I use for the moment?

Thank u for the review, my gas spring broke and looks easy change it 👍🏻

@cjr3559

2 ай бұрын

What spring did you wind up using to replace it? Mine broke too.

​Great video thank you for the detailed review. Being primarily a console player, and a TM wheel user, these have been on my list for a while now, glad to hear other than the softness you mentioned they feel like they are as good as expected. I am curious if you think the "softness" could be improved by slotting the small bridge in the hinges and dropping a washer in there? If you take a look at the 37:05 mark when you are looking at the circuit board under one of the pedals, you get a great view of the hinge, and to me it looks like that would be easily doable and wouldn't affect the clearance to the arm as the arm rides in between the hinges. OR, am I too worried about something that may not really be that noticeable? Especially if I am coming from the T3PA pedals?

Thanks, super professional 👍🏻

Your garage is my dreamhouse

Lets get to it! 🔥

Excellent sim channel !!!!!

I have these pedals had them for 3months and gonna upgrade to the v3 these just feel so light

Stepping up from my G25 there very nice 👍

nice setup!!!

20 seconds into this video I'm already thinking 'this dude should be in radio with that kind of voice'

@philosaplease4867

3 жыл бұрын

this

"DO NOT pull that off. Although I might pull that off." LoL

Great video Barry as usual. If you can remember your settings what did you settle with for non heel toe brake force? Did you stay at 90 or change to something else? How did you go about calibrating in iracing? I feel like I am locking up too often and I'm using the stiffest springs. Thanks ;)

Please do the HPP JBV and RaceWerk S1 Pros! I need to make a decision between those two. Also glad to see TM moving up in the pedaks range too.

awesome reviews

Those metal bars, maybe they could also help reinforce the pedal base to reduce flex? Maybe have like additional bars going across them? Idk

Hi Barry thanks for the excellent reviews. How would you rate these against the Clubsport v3?

...Love to own that setup!

Great review again Barry, thank you. So, this set seems to be directly targeted under the 230 euro fanatec csl elite set.. did thrustmaster do it, and should this be bought over the fanatec csl elite lc ? I am not convinced tbh. Will the support for a 100kg loadcell, that is essentially made from plastic, live through all the punishment it will receive?

@serpotter

4 жыл бұрын

I like that they got rid of.the pots, the real source of low longevity regardless of whether it's plastic or metal

Those throttle/clutch springs look like they could do with a guiding rod to ensure they don’t bulge/buckle