I love your take on Three of a Perfect Pair. I do have another way this could be interpreted, and that is based on how the album is meant to represent two different sides and one side that represents objective truth. The JOJOLands has introduced to us two concepts that seem to be opposite of each other yet are the same in terms of being concepts that explain how the world works. Generally, when you ask someone "why does this happen", they may answer something like: - because X, Y, and Z (mechanisms) - because it just happens (absurdity) Both are therefore opposite perspectives and opposite "truths" that initially seem to work against each other. Both seem to be the only two answers to the question mentioned above. But, what if there was a third answer: - because it was willed into existence (determination) There was a story about a famous calligrapher named Ono no Michikaze who watched a frog attempt to hop onto a branch in the storm. Despite berating the frog for constantly trying to hop despite failing each time, a gust of wind came by and helped the frog hop successfully onto the branch. Michikaze declared that the frog succeeded not because of chance or following the rules but rather by determination. This story has been immortalized in Hanafuda, a card game in which Michikaze is depicted watching the frog in the rain. This suit, known as the 11th suit, is also known as the November Suit. If the mechanism and the absurd are paired together to explain the workings of the world, determination can explain how to conquer both. Mechanism and absurdity can be argued to be the same thing and as a result we get Mechanism/Absurdity + Determination = Three of a Perfect Pair. I think Jodio, seeing how he struggled with understanding absurdity and relying on the mechanisms to obtain his goals, will realize this third concept and go through a transformation that not leads him to grow as a character but also change his perspective on life completely. Yes, things can happen for a reason and things can happen for no reason- but things can happen because one willed it for oneself; this has a potential to show us dark determination interpreted by Jodio now that I think about it. If one understands how all three things worked together, one can arguably gain anything they want from the world as a result and therefore become extremely powerful and rich. I think it will be revealed that the ""riches" Jodio seemed to brag about in the beginning isn't just material wealth but rather knowledge. He will come out fully understanding how the world works, how to get what he wants, and he becomes burdened with this knowledge as a result, which makes a potential bittersweet ending that also makes a meaningful coming-of-age story that The JOJOLands seems to be doing. Sorry, I rambled too much. lol

@BatuTetric

Ай бұрын

I do love this idea especially how it wraps dark determination into this, I really do hope Araki has the Lore on 3 of a perfect pair down so we can get something like this. I didn't explain it in the video however the way the album is formatted, the first side has much more rock/pop type of tracks, while the second side has more experimental instrumental tracks, being side 1 and 2, opposites forcing you to understand it as a whole being the 3rd, I explain this because even if Araki doesn't consciously know the themes I hope it's something he can understand and be moved by.

@SwirlyisCool

Ай бұрын

​@@BatuTetric The concept of the album being split down the middle in terms of showing two different sides of King Crimson actually gave me this idea in the first place. Especially given that the two sides are first introduced through the albums Discipline and Beat respectively, and the last album represents the unity between the two. Fun fact: Three of a Perfect Pair has exactly 9 tracks in the original album- 5 on the "left" and 4 on the "right" sides. Eventually 6 more are added in 2001 as "the other side". Though reaching, the album cover art does look like November Rain's legs.

@BobbinRobbin777

Ай бұрын

_...Jodio is Frisk Undertale confirmed?!?_ (But in all seriousness... Jodio getting that "Haruno Shiobana -> Giorno Giovanna" transformation at the end of the part would genuinely be beautiful to watch, I can already feel the PEAK emanating from this potential plot-point)

@conjurer5725

Ай бұрын

Bro I think this comment just changed my life

@julienleek5696

Ай бұрын

Damn you cooked

pretty decent theory, I personally believe the mini horses are coming back by the end of the year.

@BobbinRobbin777

Ай бұрын

Aww hell yeah I love mini horses.

@alperenakdas3479

Ай бұрын

hamon beat auggh take

@McBehrer

Ай бұрын

wdym "mini horses?"

@alperenakdas3479

Ай бұрын

@@McBehrer mini horses that steel took out from his pocket in part 7 theres no exsplanation on what are they or how steel got them they just exsist it irrtates people like hamon beat who think their entier exsistence ruins the world building and setting of part 7

@crackwagon8513

28 күн бұрын

i come back to this comment every now and then

November Rain Heavy Weather Heavy Rain

@thatchil

Ай бұрын

November showers

@pelag1137

Ай бұрын

​@@thatchil golden shower

@thatchil

Ай бұрын

@@pelag1137 gsr

King Crimson's stand user will probably be a member of the Higashikata family due to it having the word "king" in it.

@BobbinRobbin777

Ай бұрын

If Gappy & Yasuho's son ends up being the Diavolo equivalent, I'll either: 1: Cheer _very_ loudly. or 2: *Cry myself to sleep.* ...Depending on the context.

@BatuTetric

Ай бұрын

Yeah I was one of the King Crimson Tsurugi believers in pt 8, I think Gappy and Yasuho's son is less likely, but Mitsuba's unborn child could be a big possibility, I do hope tsurugi doesn't become to prevalent if he show's up again though considering the "everything we see is a paper moon illusion" destroyed a lot of jojolion theorycrafting

@festafunerea

Ай бұрын

@@BobbinRobbin777 It would be cool, but their child would be still a kid, assuming JoJolands is set on early 2020's

alternatively the king crimson cameo is og universe diavolo finally showing up next chapter, with paco running him over by accident

@BatuTetric

Ай бұрын

Would be funny but def a blue ball

Love how theres more KC references in the series, matte kudasai and now the this, fav band

Howler could also just be a reference to Haole, a slang term in Hawaii for foreigners or invasive outsiders lol

@BatuTetric

Ай бұрын

Haven't heard that one before but that's definitely solid

@SwirlyisCool

Ай бұрын

Yes! Adding to that, someone once claimed that the term "wolf" was used in the past to describe foreigners/haoles who intentionally pretend to be native Hawaiians for malicious reasons. Someone also pointed out that wolves are not native to Hawaii but there is a dog breed that looks almost like a wolf with stubby legs called Poi dogs. The breed is now extinct but were beloved as protectors of children and there is a specific group of demigods that were half dog half human who were known to be tricksters. If you look at the Howler logo, it does look like a stubby dog with pointed ears but can also be representative of a wolf. So, Howler isn't just some random company from outside of Hawaii but rather a company that pretends to Hawaii's culture and well-being in mind but in reality hides malicious intent. Possibly, they started as local and wanting to do good but somehow external/foreign forces changed it to what it is now.

@chakr.a

Ай бұрын

@@SwirlyisCool yessss and tying to part 8, fruits have been a major highlight of injustice throughout Hawaiian history. Foreigners who came to Hawaii were interested in the fruits of Hawaii so they would capitalise off of it, creating businesses that aimed to distribute these exotic fruits. Clean water is scarce resource in Hawaii so these companies would go out their way to retrieve water just to grow these native fruits. The common denominator when discussing Part 7, 8, and 9 would essentially be capitalism and the expense of those under this system. Araki obviously weaves in intricate ideas too, such as fortune guiding itself at the hands of a linear power in part 7, or the highlight of curses and misfortune, and how people deal with them on a personal level in part 8. I wonder what Araki is cooking with the lava rock in part 9, as compared to all the parts he’s done, the Jojolands group seems to be the ones who are closest the most ;p

@BobbinRobbin777

Ай бұрын

@@SwirlyisCool Araki is a fuckin' genius.

@Samstar369

Ай бұрын

I thank South Park for making a Haole joke lmao, now I understand that word

This video is gonna age so well once chapter 32 ones out.

@BatuTetric

Ай бұрын

Guard rail part 2

@BobbinRobbin777

Ай бұрын

@@BatuTetric Absolute Cinema.

@thatchil

Ай бұрын

Bro acting like he's from the future

I really hope araki makes diavolo and doppio au into 2 separate characters , preferably as brothers , having 2 halves of thr original KC . Doppio with epitaph and diavolo with time skip , which could make for an interesting arc or sorts . Also hoping they're either working for howler or are private investigators , kinda like what bobby jean might be , as good cop bad cop working for congressman white to take down howler .

@neoshenlong

Ай бұрын

Inb4 Bobby Jean randomly pops out King Crimson one day

@BobbinRobbin777

Ай бұрын

Perhaps the gang will end up defeating the pair by tricking the KC user into abandoning / killing his Epitaph partner, mirroring both the death of Kira's dad and Diavolo leaving Doppio to die in Bucciarati's body.

@BobbinRobbin777

Ай бұрын

The Diavolo pair being against Howler, yet still choosing to also fight the main cast reminds me about Risotto & La Squadra... Perhaps the pair will be this part's Tiziano & Squalo? Or maybe they're like Cioccolata & Secco?

@BatuTetric

Ай бұрын

@@BobbinRobbin777 I love both these ideas especially if they're 2 separate characters

At this point, the only theory that I’m sure of is that we will get a “Purple Rain” by Prince reference at one point of the story (A song that expresses a sense of hope and reconciliation, with the narrator finding solace in the power of love)

@festafunerea

Ай бұрын

My headcanon is that November Rain was supposed to be named Purple Rain but Araki-sensei didn't want to name a third MC stand after Prince again lol (or maybe Purple Rain is the name of Joseph/Fumi's stand)

@BobbinRobbin777

Ай бұрын

@@angelbasiliorodriguezbusto2065 Localised stand-name: *_The Rain Formerly Known as Purple_* (Risk of Peak reference)

@BobbinRobbin777

Ай бұрын

@@angelbasiliorodriguezbusto2065 Localized stand-name: *_[The Rain Formerly Known as Purple]_* (It’s a Risk of Rain reference)

The repeating 3s in part 9 could be a connecting jodio to giorno, dio and pucci. Jodio is literally jo/dio and all of those characters are half jostar and half dio kinda. Giorno is dio and Jonathan's son, dio's part 3 body was originally Jonathan, and pucci is a follower of dio and later gained the jostar birthmark.

Thank you so much for dispelling the "Usagi is a traitor because of the KC refrence" rumor I see everywhere. I think it's way to simple and diluted to be what is going to happen. I love this theory instead- and am excited to see where it goes from here! my bet is on the TPP stand being called "Larks Tongues" or "Model Man", but that's just me, I would have never thought that "Bigmouth strikes again" would have been picked for Charmingman Cheers!

@BatuTetric

Ай бұрын

I don't think Usagi traitor is completely out of the question tbh, but I do think that if Araki planned on making him the traitor he wouldn't be as suspicious, and comparing him to Fugo he has a very team based ability making me feel like it's unlikely but definitely still on the table

@brillbilly8527

24 күн бұрын

I had a genuine theory that Charmingman’s stand would be “Nuages” from TPP because “that which passes, passes like clouds” which is literally what he is shown doing

@BatuTetric

24 күн бұрын

@@brillbilly8527 yeah, I had also assumed bags' groove would ve aqualung, but it's gard to get these things right

It'd be crazy if Dragona could alter her body to reveal the 'third' sibling

i also noticed something about requiem stands *Silver* Chariot *Gold* Experience if the pattern of 3 exists the next requiem stand could be *Bronze* or *Platinum*

@BatuTetric

Ай бұрын

I was gonna do a throwaway bit near the end that I scrapped, the album Beat that The Howler is from has the final song titled Reqium, very much doubt it comes up tho

@CrimsonHexonator

Ай бұрын

​@@BatuTetric Still it would be very cool to see a Requiem stand again to end the (likely) last part of JoJo's or the last part that'll be written by Araki. Also considering the fact that this part has part 5 connections, it would be cool to see Diavolo's equivalent with King Crimson Requiem, effectively mirroring part 5's finale by having the protagonist somehow go from advantage against the villain to disadvantage, it could also show how a normal stamd could beat Requiem, considering that Requiem manifests as what the person needs the most, so it isn't unbeatable

@justanotherfoolish

4 күн бұрын

i noticed that in 1-6 each jojo has a material in their stand name. From Platinum, Diamond, Gold, Stone. It could be as they get farther from jonathan. they get weaker. or stronger depending on how the materials grow older and more closer to nature.

I have a theory that, sbr-verse Diavolo is Jodio's father

@festafunerea

Ай бұрын

It would be cool, since Giorno is the son of God (Dio)

...there is no way araki *isn't* aware they're a KC reference, come on the man may not understand english lyrics but he specifically hunts out music he enjoys the sound of and can likely at understand a song title

@BatuTetric

Ай бұрын

I more so meant Araki may not be aware of the connection between Discipline, Beat and 3PP but I would assume he knows

@MatheusHenrique-ni4ii

Ай бұрын

At least it's clear that he probably knows Matte Kudasai. I mean, what other song has this name if not a song from King Crimson. Given the fact he chooses a lot of western songs and artists for naming the stands.

@MatheusHenrique-ni4ii

Ай бұрын

@@toorubase03 Yeah. I'm pretty sure he even understands a little bit of Italian, for sure.

@personperson573

Ай бұрын

That's a large leap assumption imo he probably knows a bit of English they teach it as required curriculum in a lot of places 😂

@festafunerea

Ай бұрын

Dude really thinks Araki doesn't know english? Please.

I think the location might be important too. We've got America, and Japan in SBR-verse, and Araki probably knew that he's gonna set up the next entry on Hawaii, because that tropical archipelago is mentioned back in the first chapters of part 8 (been reading recently). Maybe it's completly symbolic, but I think just like the TPP king crimson album, it's something in-between, just like Hawaii is in between Japan and America. I mean, it's in the middle of pacific ocean, but yk. Maybe it's irrelevant, but I think that it's also symbolic.

I'm invested by your theory, especially the part of Jodio possibly possessing two personalities; a good and evil one. One somewhat obvious hint towards that as well is Jodio's name itself, being made up of 'Jo' and 'Dio'; the series' established counterparts of good and evil who represent the 'humanity' and 'inhumane', which Jodio also fits with his psychopathic tendencies.

I've been thinking we'd get three of a perfect pair referenced but i didn't think about that deeply this is definitely an interesting theory

oh yeah i like this it would make sense that part 9 is part 5 and part 6 mixed together since: part 7 : part 3 part 1 part 8 : part4 part 2 part 9 : part5 part6

@user-bj9yt4cz9t

Ай бұрын

That would be so cool. But what would cause the end of the world if that's the case? How can you mix a gangster story with an apocalypse?

I think King Crimson is coming, but I don't think it's a coincidence that the character first suggested to be a traitor has a King Crimson song stand, followed by the villain group having a King Crimson name. So I think King Crimson will be related to Howler or maybe even a bigger group behind them. Also, Jojolion just had the main character having the villain reference stand, and a split character, so I don't think Araki will do that again with JoDio. Another character having a split personality like Doppio and Diavolo does make a lot of sense.

@BatuTetric

Ай бұрын

I had initially thought about framing Usagi as the third sibling, especially with him showing interest in dragona it could mirror weather and pearla, but thought the schizoid main character seemed more fun. I will agree that considering jojolion it does lower the odds of that last section

@BobbinRobbin777

Ай бұрын

@@BatuTetric Usagi x Dragona being a incest ship is something I would _NOT_ want, thank you very much.

@BatuTetric

Ай бұрын

@@BobbinRobbin777 It's definitely less likely considering Dragona seems very uninterested in Usagi, but things like Weather Perla, and Joseph spying on LisaLisa has happened before

I have a theory that there will be a scene where we see Jodio using November Rain as a shower. The reason I think this is because we see the other two JoJo’s of the new universe use they’re stands to clean themselves and take care of they’re hygiene. We see Johnny use his nails as a toothbrush and we see Josuke shave his face with his bubbles. We could end up getting a complete pattern of self cleaning from them.

@CisnePelado

9 күн бұрын

The Hygienic Trilogy lmao

@silverstream4048

9 күн бұрын

@@CisnePelado Exactly.

THX FR TALKING ABOUT THIS. For a time to now i have been thinking that they could introduce king crimson on jojolands but ive seen nobody talking about that. YOU GAINED A SUB

araki periodically would draw the world & killer queen throughout the past few decades at the spur of the moment. i don't think this has happened with either KC or WS. but, im excited to see them again in any way, shape, or form possible from here on

Dude, this is an amazing theory. I’ve been pondering about how Three of a perfect pair will make an appearance myself, and would most definitely not be disappointed if this were it.

I'm really excited for Araki to implement Three of a Perfect Pair into the story somehow. The many KC references make me hopeful!

Jodio having the split personality within the "P3rfect Pair" also parallels Weather Report and how Pucci had to steal his memories to seal away Heavy Weather. Both the users and their stands having design traits that circle back to each other. From the users with their mental health issues and white hair, to their stands red eyes and weather-themed abilities. It'd be surprising if you _didn't_ end up right.

@BatuTetric

Ай бұрын

Hopefully so, Hamon Beat in his new video also mentioned some new connections between Pucci and Jodio that I hadn't noticed so I like my odds, also love the way you wrote out "P3rfect Pair" reminds me of main villian stands like D4C and Wonder of U

@BobbinRobbin777

Ай бұрын

@@BatuTetric Thx, I thought replacing e with 3 would’ve been funny and it just went a little hard too. Also: Hamon Beat dropped?!?

@personperson573

Ай бұрын

Idk the whole Jodio somehow showing a split personality thing will feel a bit cheap and doesn't really help but add stigma to the mental health thing. Since he's already a character supposedly diagnosed with ASPD slapping multiple personalities on that is just OD atp. 💀🙏 Plus the running theme in all SBR story so far is overcoming your adversity. Johnny learned how to walk. Josuke overcame his retrograde amnesia and built a new life. I don't see how Jodio can overcome having multiple personalities and being a diagnosed psychopath on top. The only logical route is that it turns out he was never diagnosed with ASPD or that he can still demonstrate strong empathy.

@BobbinRobbin777

Ай бұрын

@@personperson573 Perhaps it would be better then if this second "personality" is simply a metaphor for a dramatic change within Jodio's soul for the better? Picture it like how Haruno Shiobana became Giorno Giovanna through realising his "dream" / passion. Maybe he takes all of the positive aspects from his friends (Dragona's kindness, Paco & Usagi's loyalty, Charming Man's... _charm,_ etc) and tries to combine those traits with his own _"determination"_ / resolve to ultimately obtain a sort of "Enlightenment" and become stronger?

@personperson573

Ай бұрын

@@BobbinRobbin777 Eh I guess but still a stretch to say hell have a split personality. Just seems too jumping the gun and unlike Araki's generally tight knit writing style.

Charmingman might be the 3rd brother to Jodio and Dragona. It is mentioned in universe that his name aounds fake. (Yes I know of all names in JoJo *this* one you are supposed to find unbelievable...) And just like Weather he did have a life with the family who stole him. Maybe the switch up in this case is that Weather found the Puccis rather than the Puccis found Weather.

@BatuTetric

Ай бұрын

I don't know what you mean by charmingman being with a family he stole him, but I think the fake name could be pretty solid

@daltonbecker4494

Ай бұрын

@@BatuTetric Him and his "brother" who disappeared down the lava tube. They presumably have parents. I think it would be a neat idea for him to go on this big adventure to save his brother only to find out, surprise! That wasn't your real brother, you risked life and limb over someone with no blood relation to you. Oh and your real family was Jodio and Dragona the two you have been traveling with the whole time! Araki hasn't done a twist like that I think it could be neat.

Really interesting theory! I’ll be looking out for this!

My guess would actually be model man for the reference to the third album. It’s lyrics are Jodio to a tee. Love the idea though, somehow i missed the other two references being from two separate albums even though these are my 3 favorite KC albums.

i was saying that there will be king crimson before part 9 was even announced

I’m personally behind the theory that Jodio is based on the three DIO kids from part 6, but this is really funny.

They should make a character based on Limp Bizkit's song My Way

@BatuTetric

Ай бұрын

fingers crossed

@CarbonMonoxideBag

Ай бұрын

You mean Flaccid Pancake’s song

I absolutely love King Crimson and having an objective “third” based on the 80s albums sounds realy cool. This theory goes so hard keep cooking.

I think the main villain stand should be Purple Rain ☂️ 🌧

Amazing video brother

So considering you brought up the Part 6 parallel regarding the quote, I think it's possible as well that maybe as a baby, Jodio had a sibling that was swapped with another baby ( maybe with a sick or dead one). I say this because this DID happen to the twins in Part 6. Another event that happened was Pearla and Weather were dating, but were separated siblings. And so far in TJL, neither Jodio or Dragona have an interst in forming relationships with others. Which leads me to think, a new character could catch either ones eye(specifically Dragona if they're a Pearla parallel) unaware of their background. This could perhaps have a similar situation where Dragona dies as a result, awakening something new in Jodio. Then the story could change from being about the bond of two siblings, to being the tension between two siblings. Albeit a sibling Jodio is not aware of.

@BatuTetric

Ай бұрын

Yeah I was initially gonna suggest for that to be Usagi, but there's already a lot of Usagi traitor theories ever since matte kudesai especially so I wanted explore some other options

I always wanted to see a Joestar as a villain. (I had this theory that SBR Joseph was the head doctor before the reveal of Tooru being the villain). Also, if I recall correctly, Hot Pants said that she knew stuff about Diego's father (and assuming HP is italian, maybe Dario went to Italy and he had a child with someone of the Pucci family. Heck, maybe HP herself is a Pucci, she's a nun, and remember her brother being k1lled?), so, maybe Jodio's father is a Brando-Pucci. Now, how you'd fit both KC and MiH, I don't know. They just wouldn't be the main villain stand (since it didn't happened in both SBR and JJL).

cool theory but schizophrenia doesnt include multiple personalities. that's DID (dissociative identity disorder). schizophrenia is often misunderstood or badly portrayed, it just causes delusions as well as hallucinations and disordered thinking.

keep it up champ

Araki actually finished his quota of reoccurring characters/stands on chapter 2 with Rohan. Every part before had only 1 reoccurring stand. The World, Killer Queen, Heaven's Door. If Araki is gonna make King Crimson go back, part 9's gonna have the most reoccuring stands lol

@BatuTetric

Ай бұрын

@@user-bj9yt4cz9t We not counting Joseph's hermit purple?

@user-bj9yt4cz9t

Ай бұрын

@@BatuTetric I forgot 💀

gotta cross check w the dsm

@BatuTetric

Ай бұрын

the whole book is about jodio

this is a nice theory but i think araki will make a king crimson barbershop stand shared between four users: tony, billy, bobby, and belew, with the power to sing and play anything for you, as long as it's not 21st century schizoid man but seriously, this is a cool interpretation. i like it.

thats really good keep it up!

this would be mindblowing

The feathers on November Rain remind me of Made in Heaven

@GabrielLeni

Ай бұрын

Or Dios outfit when he first put on the stone mask

@BatuTetric

Ай бұрын

Definitely, also if you've seen some of the beta jojolands logo designs the part was actually called Made in Jojolands, but I didn't really know how to elaborate on that besides pointing it out.

@personperson573

Ай бұрын

​@@BatuTetric Ohh that is a good point I'm ngl !!

@Crustymoon09

Ай бұрын

….you have a good point

I'm gonna lmfao if its just a barber shop.

@BatuTetric

27 күн бұрын

If we see any barber shop I'm gonna freak out tbh

Bro I swear if his name is Jodio, cause you know… JOjo & DIO! Imma cry.

A bit offtop, but as you've mentioned Fugo, I think the name Pannacotta Fugo would perfectly suit the girl with the disease Stand Bag's Groove, who is unnamed at the moment. Come on, wouldn't it be niice

She is susceptible He is impossible They have their cross to share Three of a perfect pair He has his contradicting views She has her cyclothymic moods They make a study in despair Three of a perfect pair One, one too many schizophrenic tendencies Keeps it complicated (complicated) Keeps it aggravated (aggravated) And full of this hopelessness Oh, what a perfect mess He has his contradicting views She has her cyclothymic moods They make a study in despair Three of a perfect pair One, one too many schizophrenic tendencies Keeps it complicated (complicated) Keeps it so aggravated (aggravated) And full of this hopelessness Oh, what a perfect mess One, one too many schizophrenic tendencies Keeps it complicated Keeps it so aggravated Full of this hopelessness Oh, what a perfect mess One, one too many schizophrenic tendencies Keeps it complicated (complicated) Keeps it so aggravated (aggravated) And full of this hopelessness Oh, what a perfect messs She is susceptible He is impossible They have their cross to share Three of a perfect pair

0:50 raah yes omg king crimson return?

Really hoping for whitesnake to show up (my favorite stand)

I hope araki makes the main villain female

@BobbinRobbin777

Ай бұрын

I hope so too.

@BatuTetric

Ай бұрын

I think he's due considering the original universe ended with a female protagonist it would be nice for this to end with a female antagonist, I know Meryl Mei Q was catching a lot of heat in the beginning but we will see.

@Joe-yr3wx

Ай бұрын

@@toorubase03 why?

@CarbonMonoxideBag

Ай бұрын

@@BatuTetric though it’s quite possible this isn’t the last part

@BatuTetric

Ай бұрын

@CarbonMonoxideBag hopefully but arakis getting old

That's pretty interesting, but I will say that fans have always come up with crazy, deep theories for JJBA that aren't even close to Araki's radar. My one concern is that every human primary antagonist in JJBA has been older than the last, so I can't imagine the Jojolands' big bad being a teenager.

@CarbonMonoxideBag

Ай бұрын

Isn’t tooru at least 87 or something though

@BatuTetric

Ай бұрын

that's definitely a good point but I'd say that pattern is about as strong as my theory so I'd still say everything is on the table, also King crimson or three of a perfect pair doesn't have to be the main big bad

@thatchil

Ай бұрын

​@@CarbonMonoxideBagtoru is way older, I think in the triple digits

@Wattson19

Ай бұрын

I don't see the problem with the main villain being a teenager.

Great video! I still personally hold that King Crimson's hypothetical user will be the child Mitsuba was pregnant with near the end of JJL. Jodio and Dragona's "Absurd incident" when they were kids reminds me a lot of the incident Jobin went through when he, similarly, awakened his stand. Tsurugi also went through something like that, not for developing his ability, but the continuation is there for it to also happen to his own sibling. The kid would be about 12, but Araki has already set a precedent with Bags Groove's user that younger people can be very cynical in this part, and that kids are often caught up in these very cruel conflicts. And, of course, the King namesake every Higashikata stand has felt like a set-up to me from the beginning. But, who knows. Like you said, Araki definitely subverts expectations.

@BatuTetric

Ай бұрын

@spemtang yes to be honest this is exactly the script I'm writing right now for the second video, although I make some different connections

Not sure if anyone’s pointed it out yet, or if it’s just coincidence, but November Rain looks very similar to the Three of a Perfect Pair album art!!

@BatuTetric

Ай бұрын

@@zed17317 I definitely somewhat see it

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Good theory. So said it would be proven wrong.

@BatuTetric

Ай бұрын

Probably will be proven wrong lol that's why I shoot wide so one prediction may connect

Great theory so basically Jodio is a mix of Giorno Pucci and Diavolo

@BatuTetric

Ай бұрын

if we consider the Rain ability similar to Weather ability, could be more in the mix lol

@justice8290

Ай бұрын

@@BatuTetric and Pucci and Weather are techniqically joestars with there birthmarks cause of the green baby so its like a AU pucci/weather/giorno/diavolo this could get cool really quickly

@BatuTetric

Ай бұрын

@@justice8290 that is also a very good point

This is a good theory, I like this.

My theory ever since seeing the reveal of howler is that since we had dio with the world return and Kira with killer Queen I feel we will see king crimson and diavalo return as a boss before getting to the real villain of part 9. At first I imagined diavalo as the CEO/ Head of howler with a twist that the group encounters a shy and nerdy personal assistant to the CEO and the only once who interacts with him personally and switches between that personality and the ceo but I can see diavalo with KC as the vice president of howler acting like the last line of defense before getting to the CEO and fighting the real villain of the part

@BatuTetric

Ай бұрын

That is true I really missed that obvious point that old continuity stands always have the same user even rohan and joseph

@thatchil

Ай бұрын

Gah have diavalo being vice president is such a terrifying thought , not bc he would be back with his powers but some who has the power to make him subside his goals

Cool 1st video 😊

Bro, have you read jojolands17? ACCA WAS QUESTIONING THE ABSURD!!!!!!!

If this teory would be true. I would love where the story leads to. It could be smthng like fightclub. Jodio fighting howler and dont knowing that he is actualy the boss himself.

I really like the theory but for me is so hard to believe araki could think about those things, when his writing is so random at majority of time

@BatuTetric

Ай бұрын

I mean you could say similar things for the end of part 8 where fumi was severely hinted to be joseph, I'm not claiming it's likely but more so it's fun to think of

@Wattson19

Ай бұрын

Disagree.

I had a similar theory, but unlike yours this is entirely speculation based on another theory/speculation of the main villain of this part being a chaman because the apparent theme JoJolands is going to take is the balance of 2 opposite forces sbr bejng themed after miracles and JoJolion after curses, but now this seems unlikely with the introduction of Howler, tbh the only thing that is common with this is thats its heavily rekated to Three Of A Perfect Pair. My Thoery is that with this theme of the balance, they'd be 3 main villains in the series all sharing the same stand: Three Of A Perfect Pair, one being the CEO of Howler or somone related to Howler, a Chaman natuve to Hawaii still rooted in the ancient traditions and the third, i dont know yet probabky the third side going to be the Stand itself like JoJolion technocally having 2 main villains with WoU being a sentient stand taking theme that the third side of this perfect pair is hidden, The CEO (hopefully a woman because we gotta balance havjng 1 female protagonist and 1 female antagonist) representint the future and thungs related to it and the Chaman the past and things related to it like traditions, The Stand breing in a Neutral spot unifying this 2 completely different people for a same goal related to the lava tubes, the rock, etc.

@BatuTetric

Ай бұрын

@TheButterOfKris I 100% agree with you on the first part, I already wrote the script for my next video which mentions this plus another comment I just need to record and edit it right now

@TheButterOfKris

Ай бұрын

@@BatuTetric The chaman thing or the theme of JoJolands? Or both

@BatuTetric

Ай бұрын

@@TheButterOfKris the three of a perfect pair connection to new continuity parts, idk what chaman is

Great video!

Kc fans eating good

@BatuTetric

Ай бұрын

amen

could the third brother be alt universe diavolo?

10/10 vid

Lmao rookie error to assume Araki writes by following his references, have you not seen what happened to the jojolion coronation theory? Only fanpart writers take greater inspiration from their references' history and all

@BatuTetric

Ай бұрын

You're not wrong I was definitely a big coronation theory fan, but with king crimson there's definitely a mild exception, even if most of this theory is wrong wouldn't you think a song from 3PP might show up?

@talesofacrookedmouth

Ай бұрын

@@BatuTetric i really wish for araki to make king crimson come back in some shape or form, yet even though it might as well be from the album you wish, theorizing over a specific reference is getting more and more unlikely to be accurate. Still, Araki has been referencing related songs when it mattered SOMETIMES, recent one being Kaato's stand named after a deep purple song just like her son

you are not hamon beat💀

@BatuTetric

Ай бұрын

clearly not lol but I do like his videos obviously