You know shit goes down when thoorin takes off his jacket.

@breathace1804

9 жыл бұрын

Yung Bman lol..

@vvvortic

9 жыл бұрын

Yung Bman all he needs is fedoro, gg

@brandongunderson5961

9 жыл бұрын

Yung Bman It's because hes in a hotel so its actually heated Kappa

@TroyElSegundo

9 жыл бұрын

AMERICA IS WHIIITE DoubleLift's crazed, Link is a bitch, nobody's coachable or cares enough to fix anything. CLG in a nutshell. If you read all of Link's message and think "y'know you're right, you did nothing wrong" then you're closed minded as fuck, like he is. Nobody on CLG seems to want any responsibility for what happens in CLG. These are things I gleamed from Link's message, echoed in Thooorin's video, to some extent. My opinion was agreed with, and therefore I like the video. Fuck you and your themed account. Kid thinks Thooorin's word could save the Western scene, lmfao.

@VivaLaRazsa

9 жыл бұрын

Yung Bman You know Thorin gets that sweet Hotel heating because he is on a event/travel when he takes his jacket off.

of all the opinions articles link needed to see, this is easily at the top of the list.

and hour and a half imma grab some popcorn and watch this cool movie about link

@grom8cs

9 жыл бұрын

Hanzo Hattori This comment literally made me laugh out loud; "cool movie about link". Brilliant!

The only thing that ugged my was Links constant using "lol/lmafolmao" after he says somehing harsh.

@Protaneum

9 жыл бұрын

D Lott classic passive-agression tactic :P

@mukeka1337

9 жыл бұрын

Protaneum Exactly the same that Thorin does all day every day.

@lottdominique

9 жыл бұрын

Protaneum He a grown as man he etter mean what he say or dont say it at all.

@TheLamoramaks

9 жыл бұрын

D Lott I took that as him trying to soften the blow of what he was saying. He was talking about his teammates and friends he doesn't want to make it seem like an attack on them.

@lottdominique

9 жыл бұрын

TheLamoramaks made him look immature.

Thorin sticking up for his bro, Monte

@jujurawks

9 жыл бұрын

Eldar K and Doublelift

@jujurawks

9 жыл бұрын

John Martin I think thorin prefer players who are open and blunt rather players who point blame at everyone except himself. There's a certain level of respect i can give doublelift because he owns up to his faults but isn't afraid to speak his mind. Unlike the passive aggressive Link who blames everyone for his mishaps and what he didn't get etc.

@TheAvgZombieKillers

9 жыл бұрын

jujurawks Its not just thorin who doesnt like players who point blame at everyone but themselves, EVERYONE should! People like that only cause problems and are annoying AF to deal with.

@jujurawks

9 жыл бұрын

Brinston Fader hence fuck link

@TheAvgZombieKillers

9 жыл бұрын

jujurawks your first sentence doesnt make sense, you word it like you think only thorin feels that way about those kind of ppl

All of your stuff is amazing, keep up the good work!

These type of Thorin video's where he goes full rant mode are my favourite after a hard day's work. Keep up the good work mate. From Australia.

I fuckin love Thorin. If even 10% of the LoL community would listen to him, it wouldnt be that fcked up.

EVERYONE IN CLG SHOULD SIT THE FUCK DOWN AND LISTEN TO THIS... They need a fucking talking straightforward

Rewatching because Link's back lol

@0oDanngaro0

7 жыл бұрын

see you mate

@DragonsFlare

7 жыл бұрын

Same rofl. Well first time watching this. I wanna know who this guy is. I kind of don't like the fact that he's on TL but I'll give him a chance. It's been some time so hopefully he matured because TL is a house of emotional people.

@0oDanngaro0

7 жыл бұрын

That's a good idea man, even though all his problems he had a great potential as a player. I don't really mind him as a person what I hope is that he improves TL so the league is stronger.

A summoning insight about an upset MSI and over an hour of Thorin's thoughts on a controversial topic where Thorin goes off. This is a good day I personally thought Link was low level talent holding CLG back and probably setting them back on a team growth level

@iRaedon70

9 жыл бұрын

***** Hi Verlisify didn't know you followed League

@nickpumpeth

9 жыл бұрын

***** back and forth circle jerk who will sway ur opinion next weak minded redditors

@MogFlintlock

9 жыл бұрын

***** I'd argue that calling Link 'Low Level Talent' is unfair, both to Link and to his detractors, ironically enough. Link was not a 'low level' mid laner. On a pure talent level when it comes to the NA scene, Link inhabited the nebulous area below Bjergson, but above the 'average/mediocre' mid laners such as Slooshi or (as loathe as I am to say it, since I am primarily a C9 fan) Hai. In fact, I'd argue he's probably the only one who could be accepted as being as such for the entirety of the split, considering how up and down the mid laners in NA were this split. Link's actual problems are that he seems to crumble under pressure and, until this season at least, a general lack of identity. Link's problems in play-offs have been well documented, so I won't go too far into them. Until this split, I had trouble describing Link as a player. He was pretty good on Nid and...? I honestly couldn't tell you what his style was. During the latest season, he managed to demonstrate he's at his best on poke/kite mid laners. Unfortunately for him, they fell out of meta pretty hard and CLG suffered for it. Saying Link's bad implies he shouldn't have been expected to be anything more than he was. Link was worse than just being 'bad'; there's been plenty of 'bad' players in the past, even on good teams. Link was disappointing. Continuously. Link hyped as being good and he demonstrated he could be good during the regular split. And then proceeded to fall on his face when it counted. And worse than that, he kept doing it; rather than someone like Kerp who demonstrated his effectiveness as a midlaner was always going to be suspect, or getting over his problems with time and experience, Link continued to lead the community on by have streaks of good play, only for it to all fall apart in the end. Just like the organisation as a whole, really. DoubleLift might be the face of CLG, but Link was the personification of it.

@tjkinny33

9 жыл бұрын

***** I basically play two games, League and Pokemon. I'm surprised to see a well known community member of one of those games cross over into the other, I just don't feel like the games are THAT related. Small world I guess. I don't watch your videos personally, but I do get a good laugh from Pyrotoz's channel when he mocks your ridiculously off-meta, full-of-hax sets that quite often don't work. Anyway, keep doing you, at least you're trying to innovate! And if nothing else, it provides viewers on Tommy's channel/stream with entertaining discussion and jokes.

@UnheardBreath

9 жыл бұрын

***** Not only low level talent, but a lousy kid who can't admit he can't compete at LoL's highest competition. On the flip side of the coin, I respect Steeelback. He obviously isn't the best adc in the world, but he thanks Fnatic for giving him the opportunity to learn and meet new people.

HOLY CRAP im on 13mins in the video. So Glad I am not the only one that thinks. The way LInk wrote this. Makes it seem like he is not at fault and is perfect. First time watching Thorin. Like it.

@beatsbydr.draven1932

9 жыл бұрын

Justin Haney Welcome to the land of the living, enjoy your stay sir

@hamxz2

9 жыл бұрын

Justin Haney It really seemed like he was making lies along the way (maybe from huge exaggeration), but too many things just doesn't make sense. He contradicted himself way too much lol

dis gon b gud

Watched all of this! Great video and very thorough analysis.

this is one of the best videos. always great to review this.

Talking for an hour and a half to the camera is a skill not many have. Not only does Thorin do it with a lot of meaningful points and generally great content, he's also extremely entertaining.

1 dislike = link

God Thoorin's videos and articles are just the best. So articulate and un afraid to speak unpopular opinions or things that need to be said. So much respect and appreciation for this guy.

100% agree He plays the victim card and takes absolutely no responsibility for his play specifically

SI and thorins thoughts this can't be real life.

gonna save this vid for the weekend lol to long to watch this and do hw, love ur videos thoorin

Link should really watch this video. This breakdown of link's note is really amazing great job!

First SI and then this, 4,5 hours of content. Gonna need alot of popcorn!

Finally another LoL video, been waiting. And imho a great one at that. couldn't even finish the whole sobstory, it just got so apparent what it was with all the "lol, lmao" and such it there. I did get through most of it in a rumaging way, not really reading every line or word - just like you read a textbook when you studie at the University. But once again, a great video!

Great analysis.

57:00 Link confirmed Rick James reincarnated fucking gold thooorin LOL cheers m8.

@MegaHyperCombo

9 жыл бұрын

Music Meow :stop:

@thinkingofHim.

9 жыл бұрын

***** moonman?

Thorin, I don't normally follow your content very much but I figured I would go out of my way to say good job on this video

This is pure gold!

im so glad this guy is around making videos day in and day out he speaks such truth and doesn't let his emotions get involved

link will never get on another league team after this mess. he's made himself look so unprofessional it is disgusting.

I feel like Thorin is like the Rush Limbaugh of the gaming community for his upfront opinions not afraid to come right out.

@backhand4

9 жыл бұрын

Addison Callan yeah and he's just as full of shit

@iCecilJacksonI

9 жыл бұрын

Addison Callan But Rush Limbaugh is a fuck who ignores facts to fit his opinions.

@thehoror01

9 жыл бұрын

Addison Callan Except his opinions actually have some basis in reality

That ending, you basically just told Link to uninstall. I love you Thorin XD

@lordkosta926

9 жыл бұрын

Solatic Syot to be fair though after burning bridges like that, only a really stupid team would want to pick him up... he should try out for clg!

This episode is pure gold.

Great video man

An hour and a half of pure satisfaction.

Thorin, we love you.

this was hilarious, Thorin is a beast. good work sir

Besides the great work you did in this video about the drama and generally how good you can as critic for the e-sports scene, I watched the whole video while I was arguing with a girl I like a lot these days and used some of your sentences to explain my reasoning to her. Thanks Thorin

Finally lol video :D i watch it all !!!!! keep the good work man but be more constant :P

When he said "Well met" i cried of laughter. I love you Thorin

well worth a watch

I always learn something from Thooorin's thoughts.

God Bless you Thorin. Glad to see someone else actually thinks instead of spiting biased bullshit because they like x or y team/player. Plus you are hilarious, your beaten wife analogy had me in tears.

Masterpiece! :D I would like to see how you prepare your videos and how your settings look like. From the view of Thorin!

Cold. Just how I like it, Thorin

Chauster also was very enlightning

@Julicrabsdiggory

9 жыл бұрын

Mathijs Moonen THIS! SO MUCH! I honestly do not really care about all that CLG stuff but when I read that twitlonger by Chauster I was really amused by it at some points lol. I swear if you take a shot everytime he refers to himself as a god you sure as hell will pass out pretty soon. But the part where I completely lost it is where he talks abou S2 worlds and he says something along the lines of if the CLG botlane (Him and LiftLift) replaced CLG.EU botlane (Krepo and Yellowpete) they would have wonthe whole tournament. I mean like come on, that is some next level bullshit.

@spencermerritt3891

9 жыл бұрын

Mathijs Moonen Did you even read Chauster's take on this mess? Plus, yeah, he's arrogant, but I'd be a little arrogant too if I shaped the standard of how a competitive game is played.

@Dim-Icon

9 жыл бұрын

Julicrabsdiggory Actually his line about him and Dlift isn't bullshit lol. I can link you to an interview where MadLife said at the time DoubeLift and Chauster where completely dumpstering his and other top tier Korean bot lanes. In fact Madlife would often ask to scrim against them to help improve his own game play. DoubeLift/Chauster were in fact one of the best if not the best botlane in the world during season 2. You will find almost no pro that will dispute this.

@MANSOURI09

9 жыл бұрын

Chauster is tounge and cheek.

Thooorin keep up your good work love it

First time seeing your channel loved the video Subed

He turned up the heat for this 1, its on!

This is comedy gold *eats popcorn*

Great video Duncan, thanks! Although I wasn't in the CLG house Link sounds like an immature nightmare and I'm fucking baffled as to how he stayed in CLG for so long.

the title of this video is the greatest thing ever

Not sure if you will read this but I just wanted to give you my opinion of this piece. I think the first half of this video was excellent! Things were on point and it felt like I was receiving a very different and warranted perspective of "Link's farewell" (compared to the other viewpoints we've received thus far). The part that undid me was how the 2nd half divulged into a sort of critical analysis of Link as a person. A harsher (compared to the first half) take of your opinion of his actions as a person and what he should have done. The way the video started I assumed that this video was going to be a analysis of the farewell note and breakdown point by point of "the leadership, coaching, how he felt every single split went for them in LCS, the issues he felt they had and.. to some degree addressing his own part within it" The key point of that quote was "to some degree addressing his own part within it". Almost the entire second half was directed towards analyzing Link's actions and mental state as a person. Although I completely understand that the source material itself definitely didn't lend to your cause. Most of what could be gleamed from it was in fact a direct line into Link's mind as an individual. Something I feel you felt more interested in then I, and that is just a difference of opinion. That being said, the video ended with what I (and yourself) feel is the most important thing to take away from this entire experience. "Where was Hotshot, where was Kelby in any of this shit for five splits." It was this exact thought around halfway that I think you should have ended on or expanded upon. I personally found this and other points you brought up to be much more enticing than your insight into Link's personality.

Link is more proof that CLG breeds a really toxic mentality in their players, George really is the biggest issue with the team at this point

That was a.. thorough deconstruction.

i like this more then a 300 word essay good guy thorin

+Thooorin Pls become CLG's psychologist! Match made in heaven..

Thorin you're a beast.

I want to thank CLG for all this juicy drama. I'm not a fan of them as a team, but I love hearing about their arguments and in-house grievances. Their dramas are much more entertaining than their rift play.

It's here boys

Anyone else freaking out to the unevenness in the strings of his jacket o_O

I know humans are always heartwarming to people who leave or die, but i still believe that Link is one of reasons of CLG chokes and fails threwout the years

Lol fucking hilarious how Link says his teammates are on reddit and then in Chauster's response he says Link was one of the people browsing reddit not paying attention to Monte lmfao

I laughed a lot when u brought up the "drama kid." :P

funnyest thing i´ve watched in months, love u man. I know its a serious video but you´re just to fuking funny

rofl thorins killing me with these analogys

I'm glad that someone is sharing my opinion on this. Love u thorin lol lmfao

Damn fucking right, Thorin. I haven't enjoyed anything about League like this for 2 years. I mean, It's not even the 'drama' that I enjoy so much, it's actually hearing more about the insides of a team

Ofc Thorin going to make a statement about this.

Looking back on it, the donezo manifesto was probably not a good idea but we saw that CLG still managed to choke, with or without link, their problem goes deeper than that.

I like that Thorin has learned to give a highly critical commentary without personal attacking and being unprofessional

FINALLLLY

Much respect for you and your shows. I absolutely love how you CRUSH Richard Lewis in respectable knowledge, views and show production whilst he constantly insults you and those who you support you. Then in your focus you realize that mention of him positively or negatively in your videos would only promote him so he's always left out despite his little kid rants.

@AadetTube

2 жыл бұрын

And 6 year laters they are now buddies.

thooorin always goes hard in the paint .. love this guy

Thumbs up for that Hearthstone impression.

holy shit, Thorin, 1 hour 30 min dayumn good job

Clg is a perfect example of why true leadership is such a valuable trait.

the main point is that hotshot and the clg management don't have a clue on how to run an organization

@Pong670

9 жыл бұрын

Brandon Clarke i agree, you can poke fun of reginald but he has expanded his brand beyond clg will ever be

@eatupsidedown

9 жыл бұрын

***** no man, remember when link was new? When doublelift was new? The problem is that clg creates these uncoachable monsters, not the fact that they picked them.

@neolythus

9 жыл бұрын

Pong670 I agree with you 100% the guy may be a giant douchebag but he has kept tsm relevant. No matter where they play when they step into that booth the audience almost always cheers for them.

@AbendscheinLGN

9 жыл бұрын

Pong670 I will argue against that tremendously. TSM is well known in LoL, but the CLG brand is known across eSports to a much larger degree. TSM is known as a LoL team with the rest of their eSports teams being average or slightly higher, where CLG is known as an eSports organization. Regi grew TSM in LoL, HSGG aimed for the whole eSports scene, and he's hit it so hard.

@Pong670

9 жыл бұрын

Abendschein clg still shit in every other game. gg.

holy shit Link just got ripped apart.

Thorin, there are times where I disagree with you and times I agree with you (although it seems as time goes on I tend to agree with you more and more). This is definitely one of those times where I agree with you. Actually to be honest, I don't think anyone could have put this better. Kudos, well said on everything.

@jeremyrichardson8270

9 жыл бұрын

Jeremy Richardson Not that I'm important enough that my opinion really matters haha.

oh man that violin solo so epic .... lmao

proactive as Thooorin's new favorite word confirmed

clg needs a shot caller? clg trick2g xD lol

@Raferoni

9 жыл бұрын

Folder OPEN THE GATES!!!!!

@BillMayonaise

9 жыл бұрын

"Guys we need to take baron. Huhuhuhuhuhu-" Trick's laugh continues to degress, sound more and more awful at the fabric of his teammates souls. After mere moments the laugh has turned into a full fledged goose quack, froth and spittle fly from Trick's mouth as he torments the minds of those he once called friends. The screams coming through his headset cannot not drown out the awful, unholy sound of Trick2g's laugh. And as all seems lost, a faint hope comes with sound of flapping wings. Mid-game, a large male canadian goose crashes on stage, mistaking Trick2g's honking laughter as a mating call. Before anyone can react the goose begins to sodomize Trick2g, mistaking him for a female goose and cutting off the horrendous noises he was making. The crowd falls silent, the only noise in the auditorium being the flapping and thrusting of the goose as it seeks to create itself a child. And then cheers ring out from the crowd, all expressing their joy after being freed from the tyranny of Trick2G's laughter. The goose would later be made an honorary LCS player for saving the day. And that is more or less what would happen if Trick2G went into the LCS.

@Raferoni

9 жыл бұрын

wsdf too good for me

@Yepmyaccount

9 жыл бұрын

Folder Hey, Doublelift likes him, he's always trying to host his stream when he gets done for some reason. And since , you know, Double is taking a more active approach in the team this split, maybe the gates of worlds will finally be opened to CLG.

@willknauer2505

9 жыл бұрын

being real, Mic Check would be fucking amazing

RIP Thorin

this was fucking amazing.

went deep son

Lets sing everyone! Kumbaya My Lord, Kumbaya, Kumbaya My Lord Kumbaya!!!!

Well Met!

Oh god i laughed so hard every time haha Thooorin is a fucking god! All hail lord Thooorin!

For those that are interested, here's a Reflections interview done with the CLG coach several months afterwards - kzread.info/dash/bejne/n2GkyKyloLbSaKQ.html It offers a little more of an overhead view of the CLG Link situation

Wow, I listened the whole video, it felt like I was watching a Thorin's movie (Son of Thrain. Son of Thror!) *loud badass voice*. But anyway, like always very sharp commentary and good insight, I admire how you speak what you think with fair arguments, a lot of people should start looking into themselves before anything else and it trully looked like Link was making himself a defenseless victim all the time, and worse, a salty one, he's blind by his ego. I don't think he's returning to LoL anymore, he said it too, he'll fade into nothingness, that could be a new hope for CLG because maybe after this situation they learn to pay attention on what's happening and actually fix with proper management before it's too late for CLG. For now the only player that apparently puts effort on the team is aphro, I can in his eyes that he cares about the team. And I'm a big of Pobelter, I'm glad to see him back in the scene once again and maybe be the piece that CLG needs, hopefully, for healthy split. 1:22:30 - LOLZ WHATEVER LOLZ CHOCKED LMAO. I cracked up so much on that part by the way HAHAHAHA

This is my soap opera of choice.

I bet Link, who we all know is watching this, right now is like 'ohhh damn, I stuffed up'.

Just here to rewatch now that the sequel to the donezo manefesto has been confirmed

57:55 Chauster also said that Link was actually one of those guys. I think to summarize that is that while he has some right points on the micro level (a lot of wrong ones too), his message on the macro level is just wrong. It is not that there is a problem around him that he failed to fix, he is PART of the problem.

"This guy must literally be THE best player we've never heard of, because he was literally 1 vs 9ing" I laughed so hard.

that fucking NBA sidenote m8, good job with this video Thooorin you've got a new sub

"obviously i choked during every play offs LOL when i truly believe the entire team underperformed" well isn't that just a fucking... convenient coincidence. hahaha classic thooorin

"as opposed to who, serial killers?" so on point

Thorin you're a god c: