This video was artificially aged. That type of rust is short terms. Plus wood doesnt rust unlesss it was soaked in rusty water. Shame that you ruined a piece of history for views

@user-xs8ec7yh9y

3 ай бұрын

i dont get it

@babysnipergod9278

3 ай бұрын

I still enjoy watching these restorations, artificially aged or not.

@TheManoDouglas

3 ай бұрын

True

@gavin8681

3 ай бұрын

Tbh Don't care.

@romegavadquez6310

3 ай бұрын

Yes sir, it’s fake as hell

Nice vise grip teeth marks on flash suppressor! I'm with the "you ruined it" crowd.

That’s amazing!!! How long does it take for wood to rust like that?😂😂😂😂😂 I’ll admit I was born in the night but it wasn’t last night.

@colinmccann7123

3 ай бұрын

My son-in-law is a gunsmith this can be two pitted and not even worth the effort.

@TruthFiction

3 ай бұрын

I love how the rust even managed to get underneath the protective cloth wraps.

@davidtaylor8244

2 ай бұрын

Its funny that cos for how rusty and corroded that was the screws all seemed to come out really easily! where can I get some of that rust, I take it it was out of a bottle. Do these people really think we are that stupid

@gabecollins5585

2 ай бұрын

Wood corrodes and gets dirty. I’m sure it’s fake but it would be this way regardless and it’s not rust. The condition would likely be way worse if it was a real one he found and the wood would be badly damaged if it wasn’t rotted away already.

@TruthFiction

2 ай бұрын

@@gabecollins5585Old wood turns grey. Wood buried in dirt rots away within years unless it's incredibly dry where it's buried. Europe doesn't have anyplace like that that I am aware of, but maybe. Wood aging next to iron or steel turns black, it doesn't turn rusty. The only way that occurs is if you place the object in a salt bath and let the surface fast rust, turning the water orange and that water stains the wood.. Old rust is darker, as it can undergo several oxidation states. Fresh rust is bright orange.

I especially liked the old rags conveniently located in the barrel, gawd forbid any rust makes it to the rifling in the barrel.

@BusterNoggins

2 күн бұрын

Yeah I saw that and was scratching my head.

About as fake as they come

@jeffburnham6611

21 күн бұрын

Probably a replica.

@davidholder-oe1oe

8 күн бұрын

​@jeffburnham6611. I don't think it's a replica but it may be. Everything inside this weapon looked like it was working. But what he did is fake. The very first thing that caught my attention was wood does not rust. The cloth that was tied around the handle and was down in the breech. It would have been completely rotten. There would have been hoes and rust pits all over this weapon. No I don't think that thompson is a replica. But I can never trust watching.What this guy does ever again.

How did you get the wood to rust?? I've never seen that in nature. You must be some kind of sorcerer.

@digbiger

3 ай бұрын

It's called water

@fat_basturd5345

3 ай бұрын

@@digbigerwater makes wood rust lol….dumb bozo.

@trapezoid5810

2 ай бұрын

It's artificially aged (which I'm guessing you know). Kind of fucked up he ruined the gun for views- hopefully it was already bad and he just made it semi worse.

@scrappydoo7887

Ай бұрын

​@@digbigerno it's not

If you accidentally drop your Thompson into a brine filled tank and then forget about it for two weeks, you to can easily rectify your mistake by following along with this video

Please show me that rust bath where your weapons are aged! It would be very interesting to see what awaits us in the next episodes! We ask you very much! Please! 😍👍

@gothia1715

3 ай бұрын

Yep. "Rust" all over the wooden parts...

@klingonbaronessprincesskar5519

3 ай бұрын

Dried mud dirt type stuff

@gothia1715

3 ай бұрын

@@klingonbaronessprincesskar5519Mud is almost always brown. Tell me why those KZreadrs seem to always get their guns from the places where earth has a red tone to it.

@rumeunner3245

2 ай бұрын

Triggered are we? Butt hurt too?

@biggusdickus5986

Ай бұрын

​@@rumeunner3245You seem very concerned about the state of his butt ? 😂

Although these videos are fake as fuck, it's still satisfying. Also, in case there are people who think this gun is real and they just ruined an authentic piece of history, it's a fake gun as well. You can buy restoration kits online that are simply for the satisfaction of restoring them. You can also see these exact restoration kits in other restoration videos. So don't worry, no actual WWII firearms were hurt in the making of this video.

@stevebelcher1527

2 ай бұрын

Where can you but kits like that , that would be great for a wall hanger

@Knife_Collector

Ай бұрын

The gun at the end is a Russian PPS 43.. did the restoration change it from a Thompson to this? Maybe I missed something... hmmmm

@PieAndChips

26 күн бұрын

The Thompson is a genuine late production M1928A1, it was not fake.

@TylerSnyder305

25 күн бұрын

​@@PieAndChipsthe gun was not fake, it's condition was entirely fake.

@TylerSnyder305

25 күн бұрын

Why would this be satisfying when you know they took something that was likely in decent condition ( this was a real firearm, the replicas are not finely milled steel ) then destroyed it with intentional corrosion, just so they can very very poorly " restore " it to a condition that still looks like crap ? Just go watch Jimmy Diresta build something, or watch Mark Novak expertly breath life into an old firearm while making you want to learn everything you can from him.

Amazing how lucrative this patina simulation has become. This chap is raking it in.

Damn my first time I've seen rusted wood. and them screw threads looked like new

@freacadadisc

Ай бұрын

and the spring inside , just wtf :))))

@awilliams5007

9 күн бұрын

Yea rusty screw heads, well oiled screw threads.

I like the rusted wooden stock--it matches the coating on the rest of the firearm. Someone needs to producing a series on faking firearm restorations.

@TruthFiction

3 ай бұрын

There's a channel who routinely does weapon restorations and he has a video out that shows you what you should be looking for to identify a fake restoration. Rusty wood is one of the warnings because if it was in the conditions necessary to rust up the metal that much, it would rot the wood, not rust it.

@OlujaDoTokija

26 күн бұрын

Backyard Ballistics has some videos on how to spot them

@samuelfellows6923

10 күн бұрын

✅ ~ this is one of the stereotypical “fraudulent” pre-rusted gun videos = the fraudster wants you to watch the adverts and not him committing fraud

Второй пистолет -пулемет это не томпсон, а ППС-43. Странно, что в названии видео о нем не упоминается.

I restore things, I'm working on a 40+ year old motocross bike atm. Infact I've built it from scratch. Some of the components took weeks to restore. I usually remove rust and grime with a 10% hydrochloric acid, alkaline dip and another acid dip or pickle prior to plating.This video seems to me like someone's dipped a weapon that was in need of a basic restoration, into a mix of red earth and water. Maybe removing it to dry only to then do it again. The reason I say this is because the wooden stock is covered in the same dirt. If you want to see heavy rust form in a matter of days, strip the paint or plating of your steel in acid, and then rinse in water. You'll be surprised how something so nice can look absolutely rotten in the space of a day or two. 😉

I bet Mark Novak on Anvil gets a nice chuckle watching this video. That amount of age rust would totally destroy the barrel making it worthless. Besides, rust is oxidation of the iron in the steel. Once the rust occurs the metal pits and can't be renewed. The mating surfaces of the action would have fused and the surface on all parts deeply pitted. Nice looking replica.

@awilliams5007

9 күн бұрын

I was digging in my yard,and I found............a rock.

@marknovak8255

2 күн бұрын

hehe... just sayin

Lol, all the threads of all the screws are in perfect shape, when you fake stuff, try harder. Love how shiny the recoil spring still was 🤦‍♂️

Where do they find all theese super rusty weapons that after 1 bath looks brand spanking new?

I had an old friend who was WWII vet, fought in the Pacific . He was from Missouri and had a little accent. He didn't talk about the war much but once he said " I had a Tommy gun, I got it off a guy. HE DIDN'T NEED IT ANYMORE! ".

DO YOU HAVE TO WRAP ALL YOUR "TREASURES " IN FORD WIRE BEFORE YOU BURY THEM IN THE MUD FOR MONTHS AND THEN "FIND" THEM?

@TheBestOne382

Ай бұрын

Aww shutup &stop complaining

Si tiene un guardamanos ya hecho¿ porqué hace otro?. En varias tomas aparecen los dos.😮Que maravilla de metal oxidado,sin una sola marca,ni picado.Milagroso.😊

Forget the rust, never seen a 28 without the foregrip and cooling fins

@PieAndChips

26 күн бұрын

It's a late production M1928A1. The vertical foregrip was omitted from the A1 as it was intended for military use and after about July 1942 the barrels were produced without the cooling ribs.

@themightycrixus1131

16 күн бұрын

Its fake that is why

It would be impossible to restore this gun because it would have too many pits in the in the metal. My son-in-law is a gunsmith and I see guns that come in that aren't anywhere near this shape and they're just impossible to redo.

I love how he turned it over and some rust fell off!!😂😂😂😂

Wow... using steel hammers, a steel punch and Vice grips. ...LoL I seen the flash-hider was changed-out, the other one had Vice grip marks around it from the fool un-screwing it. For me? ...it's Brass, all the way around for the take-down.

@themightycrixus1131

16 күн бұрын

Well this guy clearly doesnt know much about firearms and is a scam artist.

While hunting I found the rifle and remains of a man that had been missing for over 25. I was a young man, dear hunting where I lived at in Maryland. It was back in the 70s. There was not much of him left. But his rifle was still there. I did not touch it but I could tell from looking at it. It was completely rust pitted. The wood was rotten and dried out. It looks like it would turn to dust if you touched it. That rifle looked in better shape. Then that Thompson did when we first saw it. Does this guy think we did not know that the video was fake.

I'm a gunsmith and you're not, a gunsmith wouldn't do that to any gun.

It is not a M1928, but is a M1928A1

@ethansee2816

Ай бұрын

No its a ppsh43

@alxandorbond3399

21 күн бұрын

M1A1!

@user-nw2tt2ee1q

8 күн бұрын

​@@ethansee2816ппс

10:09 as a wise old mechanic once said to me “remember son it can’t defy you if it’s a liquid.” This was right before he put down his welding hood and proceeded to torch the component that was offending him it did not last. Words to live by.

O yeah you can't tell he soaked it in rusty water for sure those nails were clean when he pulled them out and the mounts were shiny as well

Glass bead blasting would work better than a wire wheel.

Wow that spring is cleaner than my weapon

@johngeiger3770

Ай бұрын

Was about the write the same thing. He missed to rust that part. 0:42 😂

Channel locks on the muzzle brake?! 😮

never seen anyone Mark out with a vernier gauge like that!!!😂😂😂

Is all the wrapping with gauze and tape and cord actual prep for long-term storage, or just for dramatic effect. Please explain.

@esdee3729

3 ай бұрын

It was a make shift fore grip since the original wood one was gone.

@davidchapman2839

3 ай бұрын

Uh more difficult to retrieve fingerprints?

@jonfoster1566

3 ай бұрын

Yes.

@johnlheneghan1630

Ай бұрын

Actually they used burlap to wrap there weapons for comfort. Nothing was shown about the inside of the barrel.

Those screws look pretty clean for being in a 1928 wooden stock.

It wouldn't surprise me to find out this gun was buried in the mud for six months, to be made crappy looking before the rebuild. So much of the interior is still cleanly blued. Still fun to watch.

@gothia1715

3 ай бұрын

Yep. Obvious fake. Btw, 8:08 is just a nono.

@HectorYo-js6fo

2 ай бұрын

Exactly thats all Just surface rust or they boiled it in tomato sauce and im not kidding it will make metal look Orange and rusty

@biggusdickus5986

Ай бұрын

Six months ? Six hours more like.

@scrappydoo7887

Ай бұрын

It's a little bit of hydrochloric acid and water. Job done

always wanted to mount this gun in a man-cave. Glass case and everything. Such a work of art and machinery

The first screws he took out only the top was rusted the rest of it looked brand new 😂

Those wood peices were in pretty good shape . But the metal does all the work when it’s fired .

Bonjour. Perte de temps effroyable pour du faux à tout niveaux. Il est préférable de sauvegardé ce qui est une évidence historique. Après tout ,chacun son délire !

The restoration was so complete the finished product wasn’t even the Thompson … just damn

I had no idea how complex the Thompson was. No wonder the US Army went to the M3 Submachine gun.

Me gusta el silencio y la paciencia.. saludos d México muy buen trabajo... felicidades q la pases bien...

Nice Thompson I had a armory full of Thompsons while in the navy it has a blow back action also

When he grabbed onto the Cupps Compensator with ViceGrips I started choaking… pounding out the pins with non-brass drivers got a squeak from gritted teeth… using a STEEL brush on all the machined parts made my common sense warning buzzer go off… I left this restoration feeling like I had internal injuries.

@evangelinewandering9547

Ай бұрын

Forgive my ignorance, but why should you use brass drivers to pound out the pins?

@randalramsey605

Ай бұрын

Steel drivers marr the pins… brass is soft and does not damage the surface.

@murrayjohnallen5120

21 күн бұрын

Also, the pin punch was too small. He banged the parts on top of the vise to separate them. When he was tapping out the part with the trigger guard, he was tapping on the guard instead of low down next to where the parts were attached. I cringed multiple times during this. He seemed to be in a rush. Also he scraped the stock, and used sandpaper against the grain. I would have used ultra fine steel wool, and followed the grain. There seemed to be so many dodgy processes, although I'm no gunsmith.

Yep, nice to covering that inner barrel so didn't get rust and damaging that rifling

How’d he go from a Thompson to a PPS-43💀

@ethansee2816

Ай бұрын

Thank you someone who recognises the gun

@david-yi6dm

Ай бұрын

magic

He's a professional to. Make up the parts of any gun or rifle cleanum. You know everything, thank you.

@XxgoodbudsxX

22 күн бұрын

This whole thing is fake

It would be nice to have him say a word now & , then over chemicals & details for his great work done !!!!

@tomperkins5657

2 ай бұрын

Probably would not give a way his "secret sauce" restoration.

The blacking to the 2nd weapon was probably a caustic soda and water mix with elevated temperature, ie the burner. Rather than the water causing red oxide or rust, it creates black oxide(Fe3O4) Edit...For you peeps who would like to turn steel or iron black, you can get a cold water, non toxic dip-kit for non- stainless steel objects. I actually use a small modelling paint brush and brush it on. 🙂

That wood and the tape on the grip are in amazing shape considering it’s almost 100 years old! Nice try, you earned a thumps down

If it was real, the wood, had it been similar conditions to the rusted metal, would have molted away from water damage and mold

Crazy how he uploaded the same video twice a month later and still gets over 100k views

Does an inoperable/rusted auto weapon need to be registered? Tks

interesting that something that is so rusted has little or no pitting.

I am a 60 year old African American woman in a small town in Missouri.I tell you that I find this work so interesting.the shine on that wood is amazing

@Fapsahoyx

Ай бұрын

No one cares what race or gender you are. Stop being a victim

@user-qw1hz7bt8i

Ай бұрын

Какое отношение имеет твой цвет кжи к дереву

@scrappydoo7887

Ай бұрын

Why should anyone care that you are "African" American?

Not me covering my eyes to avoid seeing the welds 20:50 😂

It’d be so freaking cool to actually find one of these, out in the field somewhere and then get it brought back to life like this!!

Actually Thompson had 5 variants, this one looks correct in every way.

@PieAndChips

2 күн бұрын

All the features indicate that it is a late production M1928A1 circa 1942, possibly manufactured by savage.

I’d like to see the bore. How rusted/pitted is it?

Great job though, having such material and not fixing the vice and deplorable. Two clamps would have been enough

How is the old rug still not decayed..!?

With a 100 round drum magazine it's definitely one of the funnest firearms I've shot

Siempre habra tontos que se cren muy listos al criticar a este Sr que es un verdadero profesional del arte de la armeria y para que sepas esto no se aprende de la noche a la mañana .esto se estudia...aprendetelo antes de hacer una mala critica..

Eres un máquina restaurando armas, qué buen trabajó ya que puedes probar todas las armas qué restauras.

All the weapons you restore, seem to rust and oxidize and deteriorate the exact same way. . . are you finding them in a lake, stream? mud?

@LordHumungus-eg2dw

2 ай бұрын

He finds them in the tub full of chemicals he puts them in to rust

@jonmajarucon51

16 күн бұрын

@@LordHumungus-eg2dw Thanks......there is something so deceptive about this restoration video

Hey here is a Great Hack to Remove Rust use Molasses and water, yes I know it sounds crazy but have have been Restoring a 1935 Ford Pickup and the 4 Piece Hood was Frozen Solid, I tried WD40, DB blaster, Heat, Cold, and Nothing Worked. I saw this online where a guy in New Zealand was Soaking his Car parts in Molasses and Water and getting Amazing Results, so I got a Kiddy Pool and a 2.5 gallon Jug of Herd Life Black Strap Molasses for cows, poured it into the pool fill it with garden hose. I had to turn the hood upside down on its back with the hood sides sticking out and went to Work.Two days noting but a Frozen hood in a kiddy pool of Black Sweet smelling water.but by day Three of Soaking Bubbles started forming Everywhere in the pool and by day Four it was looking like making Moon Shine. Day 5 both Hood Sides had fallen over by them selves, a light scrubbing with a Green kitchen Scrubby and that hood was rust Free and slipped apart with Ease. So take that Beautiful Thompson Submachine Gun and Soak it for about 4 or 5 Days and it will be Rust Free.

I really would like to see, how you turned the gun in the condition, we´ve seen in the begining.

Замечательное видео!!!!!Отличный специалист,отличное оборудование,очень интересно,молодец!!!!!Спасибо за публикацию.😮😊😂❤🎉

Like the work you did on the for grip wish i had it.

Let's talk about how jet black and shinny those nails looked as he disassembled it lol. Shinny is the new rusty

Beautiful work on the Thompson

@gothia1715

3 ай бұрын

8:08 Beautiful work. Yeah... Btw, the guy obviously fakes. Biggest hint is the fake rust on the wooden parts and that the screws are only "rusty" on the surface.

@ethansee2816

Ай бұрын

Thats not a thompson thats ppsh43

Would have like to see a range-fire test at the end....

@themightycrixus1131

16 күн бұрын

it cant fire. This was fake

Now if I were doing this I would've sandblasted the gun before blueing

Regardless, very good workmanship. You guys need to test fire after you finish it. We'll done

@themightycrixus1131

16 күн бұрын

I doubt it would function properly. He hammered and sanded several parts that would be out of spec now.

@marksanders4657

16 күн бұрын

@@themightycrixus1131 That's vary good point. I'd clamp it a recoil absorbing gun vice and string the trigger 30 feet away, and "give it a shot"

You guys do impressive work, although I suspect the aging is helped a bit.....

@gothia1715

3 ай бұрын

8:08

@howardoller443

3 ай бұрын

@@gothia1715 There are different videos for multiple different firearms, all under one title which confusingly only mentions one of the videos.

@themightycrixus1131

16 күн бұрын

Nah if this was a real gun he would have broken it. Its fake though

and this was found where ?

@santipiola2752

3 ай бұрын

in a rust bath or mud or any form to make a gun look like its rusted but it isin't

What was the cause of the damage to the guns in the first place

No veas todos los remaches que lleva pará sujetar él cañón.

The thompson didnt need much work ... BUT it looks great !!

@darklords1th755

3 ай бұрын

It’s fake

@TheBestOne382

Ай бұрын

​@@darklords1th755fool so what &&&

People ain’t stupid bro! Yall just keep finding old rusted stuff!!!🤦🏾‍♂️🤦🏾‍♂️🤦🏾‍♂️

Military guns don't have a Cutt's Compensator either. So it's a modern gun that had the relic treatment done to it so he could restore it.

@PieAndChips

26 күн бұрын

The M1928A1 did have a cutts compensator. It was omitted when the M1 production took over.

Noticed that is a full auto Thompson by the sekector switch on right side! Hope the ATF isn’t watching!

@garyszewc3339

2 ай бұрын

Legal to own. Machine guns must be produced before 1986.

@kevinrose3958

2 ай бұрын

still requires a class 3 and tax stamp @@garyszewc3339

@PieAndChips

26 күн бұрын

You do realise that the United States isn't the only country in the world? These weapons can be found all over the world and Southeast Asia is littered with them.

It does show how intricate the action of the Thomson is compared to the other open bolt SMG

So if you restore something like this, do you then registered it as a curio and relic or is it old enough that it would simply just be restored it or is it exempt? My personal opinion is if you put in the hard work and restore it to safely functioningI think that should bypass any regulation

Интересная у вас ржавчина,следов коррозии совсем не вызывает.

Wish someone could save these firearms before these goobers ruin them for views.

How did you know the foregrip was gone before you took the rag off of it?🤔🤔🤔 sumptuous not right!

you should pray to the spirits of John Moses Browning and John Taliaferro Thompson for forgiveness for artificially rusting this gun

@MaxMinXX

18 күн бұрын

Just curious. how can you tell that he artificially rusted it?

@wari3rkng

17 күн бұрын

@@MaxMinXX I’m part of a Facebook student group for a gunsmith school. I don’t have a gunsmith job yet due to certain circumstances but anyway, I shared one of this guys videos and several of them who do work in the industry pointed out that the orange rust was too consistent along the entire gun and could only happen if he did it artificially

From thompson smg to pps43 truly remarkable the era of anything goes for views nothing to learn from this content.

Wish you would fire them after fixing them

@darklords1th755

3 ай бұрын

It’s fake

The springs look too good

What kind of mind figures out, & makes the parts, to make a machine like that! Especially the era they were made. Didnt the tommy have a hand grip on the front coming down? Or was it optional?

I don't know why there are so many haters. that is totally how something gets covered in rust. go throw you hammer in some water and let it sit for a while, and the wood and everything is going to get rusted. and that was in water for a while. that's not the worst rust ever, but it was in the water for months at the least, probably a flooded garage/storage /house. what does something have to be to be "believable"?.

That is like the Thompson that Sgt. Saunders did in thousands of Germans in the old TV show "Combat!"

This fine weapon looks as though its been at the bottom of a fresh water lake for 50 years ??

@CNYKnifeNut

2 ай бұрын

Yes, that's exactly what wood looks like after half a century under water...

29.13 i guess because the spring was inside it didn't rust

Jak to mawiał mój majster ,,Nikt nie będzie z tego sztrzelał"

Yeah, there are NO Thompsons out there being treated like that, allowed to rust and rot, etc. Every surviving Thompson submachine gun is being treated like the rare and valuable gun it is.

How did you get the barrel off? thanks