Didn't think i'd have to say this, but NO SPOILERS IN THE COMMENTS, I'll delete the ones i catch.

@jessicawinter9531

Ай бұрын

I'm sorry, I will delete my comment in case it is to close to being a spoiler.

@user-me4pj4br4g

Ай бұрын

Hello Brandon. Della Warren here. I love watching you. You have a wonderful way of explaining

@user-dr2iq8yi1o

Ай бұрын

Listen here. Listen. Listen you better. Stop okay. I have no against of the chosen. All you guys can make your comments if you want but season 5 is coming up and season 4. Episode 5 is coming up today so there's nothing you can agree or have against about that. Okay, it is what it is your not the director of the chosen you don't make the decision of the series. You're not the director of the chosen so keep your mouth shut 😡😡😡😡😡😡😡

@user-dr2iq8yi1o

Ай бұрын

ARE YOU CHRISTIAN 🧐🧐🧐🧐🧐😡😡😡😡😡😡

@user-dr2iq8yi1o

Ай бұрын

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Raman and Thomas are like children. They don’t have the spiritual understanding and can’t see past human things. Jesus’ response to Thomas at the end of His discussion is like a father. You spend your time talking to your kids then they react like they didn’t hear a word you said. Excellent acting! Aren’t we all like this to the Father.

@vbetta8979

Ай бұрын

I am so glad you wrote this. So true. People in love.... act different. 😅 Not always rationally. They just want to get married and that's that. ❤

@olusegunajuwon4708

Ай бұрын

I think the writers of the Chosen have deliberately made it that way, that even His disciples had a hard time in getting the exact message that Jesus was teaching them even after over 3 years. And so are many of us Christians even today. We still have many Why(s)

@user-me4pj4br4g

Ай бұрын

Hello Brandon. Della Warren here

@cailin5301

Ай бұрын

​@@olusegunajuwon4708 I think it's pretty clear in the gospels that the disciples really WERE that way. Maybe sometimes because Jesus was saying things that were really confusing, other times because the disciples were too caught up in their own ideas and couldn't see past it ... Based on the trailer, I'm pretty sure we're going to see some more of that in episode 5

I grew up in a very abusive household. My parents divorced and my father remarried. We were told that our mother was dead to us. It was so hurtful and wrong. After I grew up I asked a minister about honoring our parents as the commandments teach. After explaining my childhood he looked at me and said you only honor your parents if they were honorable people. The story is very long and I won’t go into details. That remark helped me understand that as an adult I didn’t need to feel guilty and I could live my life as an honorable person would do. I am a senior citizen now and I look at the world with more Godly eyes. This is a difficult thing to explain. I had to separate myself from my parents for years in order to find my own peace. I was able to reconcile some years later. They had not changed much but I had. God comes first now but I stumbled many times. I hope this makes sense Brandon. Thank you for sharing your insights. Go Jesus!

"No. Please, set him straight" 😅

I wonder, are we a little too harsh on Jesus' Apostles? Should we grant them more grace? We have all of their writings compiled together in one place. They didn't. They were living it and didnt understand a lot of what they experienced until after Jesus' death, resurrection and acension. They had to journey and wrestle with their understanding of what was said and done in order to put it together. Then who knows if and when they read each other's letters to be able to recognize how the Holy Spirit was working in and through each of them. We take for granted some practical things like how much time it took for messages to travel from one place to another.

@stewies5522

Ай бұрын

Yes that’s something I struggle with is relating to them on the Chosen because we have the Bible they obviously didn’t then again they do have Christ in the flesh

@westiemom100

Ай бұрын

I agree with you. They had Christ in the flesh, but He wasn't with them 24/7. They didn't have the Holy Spirit until after Jesus ascended. We have the Bible and the Holy Spirit.

@mirrov246

Ай бұрын

exactly. and also, a major slip in terms of the chosen's historical accuracy, *they were not writing the gospels on the go!* The gospels were written at least a decade after jesus's death, john wrote his in prolly around like 80-90AD, at the end of his life. They thought a written account wouldn't be necessary because they thought jesus's second coming was gonna happen before they die (jesus says this towards the end of one of the gospels).

@jorinebustraan9659

Ай бұрын

@@mirrov246 I don't get the impression that they were actually writing a whole Gospel, rather that they took notes on things to remember. It attests to the accuracy of the final version

Ramah did cry when her dad left in season 2. She did have a good relationship with her dad, but when she followed Jesus her father and her grew apart. Ramah did what Jesus asked and chose Him over family, so I can understand her feeling validated based on what Jesus said, but there is something else going on here too...

She doesn’t feel her father is dead to her now. But she trusts Jesus (the Messiah) more than her earthly father. He is essentially disowning her in many ways even if he still loves her. Her faith is stronger than her father’s lack of faith. And then there’s the dynamic about Jesus speaking about households being divided. So I would have to disagree.

@cathytalbert6548

Ай бұрын

I agree with you.

@priscillajimenez27

Ай бұрын

Same. I agree. I guess culturally back then it was a big deal to leave households.

I wish Thomas used Matthew’s line, “ I did not detect any subterfuge”

@rocketsandhistory6136

Ай бұрын

😂 I reported everything no matter how impossible it seemed

"These words don't mean what you think they mean." Hahaha! SO true!

The other option is Kafne (sp?) could have disowned her like Matthew's father. We don't know what their interaction was, so he may have kicked her out

I love how Jesus calls himself God here. He says 'Honoring your parents is one of the highest social and spiritual obligations but it is not higher than following God'. Then he follows that with 'Whoever loves father and mother more than me, is not worthy of me'

Yes, definitely a barrier is my husband……b4 I married him, during th5 yrs of engagement, he was a devout Catholic. Although with time, he turned slur against the church, and absolutely hates me watching anything YOU AND YOUR JESUS”……. Please I BEG FOR PRAYERS. We have been together 47 yrs……😢❤

@artsroundhill

23 күн бұрын

@@stefaniamanzella5624 you are not responsible for his faith. It is between him and his God. You are faithful to Jesus and that sanctifies him. I will pray that he realizes what a treasure he is turning his back on (your beautiful faith and his beautiful Saviour). Stay strong, dear sister. Jesus is bigger than all our sorrows.

Yes Brandon! Hard lesson. But Jesus must be first in our lives. Thanks Brandon.

Thank you for bringing my attention to the music and the deeper lesson in the Chosen! You got great skills! I'll watch the whole episode and then watch your KZread video and I'm like "How did I miss ALL the music in the whole episode? 😮

You wouldn’t believe the amount of time I spend during tv shows and movies telling my teens to listen out for the odd music changes, major to minor etc for a bit of what they seem obsessed with - ‘foreshadowing’ lol

I also thought that it was inappropriate to bring up while in mourning for JtB. But it did seem like Jesus was waiting for them to come talk with him about it. Thomas getting marriage advice from Simon Peter? OH YEAH!!!!

Brilliant acting (facial expressions and body language)...excellent timing (the pregnant pause before Jesus responded to Thomas' comment)...great writing (as always; Jesus' no was heavy)

Love that part where simon intervenes

I may be sad..but I wouldn’t be breaking down and depressed! When Jesus is first, you will push anyone aside. I have children and grandchildren who don’t follow Jesus. I will not compromise or allow them to hinder my obedience to Christ.

Thank you so much for these deep dive videos. It really helps me put deeper context to these scenes. Also, highlighting the specific Bible verses has helped me tremendously. Thank you ! 🙏🏻

So when I watched this scene, my thoughts were that when Ramah told Him He was like a father it seemed to catch Him by surprise, almost take His breath away. Because one of the major reasons He came was to REVEAL the Father to humankind. And for her to call Him father must have been AMAZING. (Just thought of how later Philip will say "show us the Father" and Jesus replies that whoever has seen me HAS seen the Father.) And then Jesus stops EVERYBODY and teaches them. Think about His reply with that in mind, that He is teaching them truth about Heavenly Father and how He and His Father ARE One.... It is profound! There is a lot going on and many layers and I 100% agree with what you said as well.

Maybe her father told her that she's no longer his daughter if she leaves to follow Jesus - like Matthew's father did. Just maybe... 🤔

@cailin5301

Ай бұрын

Yeah, I'm wondering if that's what's being implied, but idk

I looked after my dad then mum, till their passing. I wasn’t within Christ at that point but those experiences contributed to me finding Jesus and accepting him as my Lord. I feel very blessed for that. Finding my mums Bible after her death was a critical doorway in. I’ve always believed in honouring our parents, this can be shown in many different ways. It my instance in meant literally looking after them. For others it might be forgiving them. Either way it can bring us closer to God in my opinion. ❤

As a woman, I have to disagree with you. Ramah's willingness to leave her father was her desire to make a life with Thomas. Indirectly she was choosing Jesus over her dad, but mainly her motivation was Thomas.

When I was young and times were relatively normal, this passage troubled me; nowadays, though, it is so obvious! You must love God first simply because you cannot truly love anyone else until you love Him. Parents who think they can love their children without loving God first take their kids to drag queen shows and pride parades, and get them a litter box when they pretend to be cats; people who claim to love their parents, but don't love God first, take them to death clinics to get euthanized. Jesus is not putting Himself first; he is offering Himself as a lifeline for us, so we can love each other without falling into the very dark pit around the corner. Troubled as they may be, these horrific times do clarify the Scripture.

The father disowned her. When they do that you are dead to them. They may even set a place at the table for you but you are considered dead.

@priscillajimenez27

Ай бұрын

Yup

Thank you for continuing to bring more understanding to scripture and the show. Please share your story and/or do a segment that goes deeper into what it means to put God before your family. I am deeply devoted to God, and I deeply love my family. But sometimes I worry that I put their opinion of me and/or judgement over what Holy Spirit tells me. I would greatly appreciate to learn more about this commandment so that I can make sure I am aligned with what God wants for me.

Love that part where Simon jumped in on that ti explain to Thomas. Loved his laugh Della Warren here

I'd like to hear more of your story! I also got a Lot out of the river rock vs foundational rock you shared!

I usually agree with you on your insights, but that’s not the case this time. I didn’t get vibe that she was glad to be away from her father, but that she had accepted it. Could it have been that her father disowned her like Matthew’s family did? When Thomas asked her how it went with Kafni, she looked very sad and acted like she didn’t even want to talk about it because it was so hurtful. Kafni’s problem was mainly with Jesus than Thomas. If Jesus had not been in the picture, he probably would’ve given Thomas permission to marry her. Anyway, just my thoughts.

@cathytalbert6548

Ай бұрын

I agree!

@victoriaking3318

Ай бұрын

I disagree also. I think this was a sincere reaction by Jesus. Something that needed to be taught. I think it was straight forward. I’m 71 though, so usually have a little different take after many children and young people throughout my life and ministry.

@jorinebustraan9659

Ай бұрын

Kafni's problem was indeed more with Jesus than with Thomas, yet when he left them (in Samaria), he didn't sound too optimistic for when Thomas would ask for Ramah's hand ....

@priscillajimenez27

Ай бұрын

Yeah if we look, she's with the women a lot so she probably broke down with them so she can keep face around the men, even Thomas. She also kept herself busy with learning how to read/write, learn Torah, and oil pressing.

Brandon, I thought your insights into these scenes and the music and situation with Thomas and Ramah was very insightful!

Thanks again, Brandon! Great insight!!😂

In season 2, we briefly saw Kafni say harsh words to Ramah. Before, he talked to Jesus, he told her to get use to eating porridge because she will now be poor.

would love to hear you story some time. love your commitment and ministry.

Fantastic video!

This whole Ramah story - to me - knowing the outcome because I’ve seen season 4 in entirety - is underlining this leaving her father isn’t about Jesus - it’s about Thomas. And Jesus is saying this here.

@Hello.Bethany

Ай бұрын

Interesting! I’ve also seen the full season and I got the exact opposite impression, that following Jesus is her priority and what she wants most, both for Thomas and herself. I don’t want to say more in case I accidentally spoil something for those who haven’t yet seen the full season, but looking forward y hearing Brandon flesh this out more over the coming weeks.

@kkelley3134

Ай бұрын

It’s just that to me- the discussion with Ramah and Thomas in scene prior to this one- had Ramah figuring how they could adjust the rules to fit. It wasn’t Thomas figuring it out. It was like Ramah is scheming to have her way. At least that’s how I saw it. I’ll go back and watch again but I thought it was interesting that it’s Ramah planning…

@natevoorhees6976

Ай бұрын

In season 2, if Ramah wasn't interested in following Jesus she could have talked Thomas out of it. Instead she pushed him to go and she followed too. I can see questioning if Thomas would have chosen to follow if Ramah hadn't come too, but Ramahs motivations seem sincere to me.

@Loulizabeth

Ай бұрын

Also remember she chose to learn and study Scripture for herself, even though Thomas said she could just ask him. However she kept studying and learning to read Scripture with Mary. Magdalene

I feel like you’re being a bit too harsh on Ramah and Thomas. They’re in love. They want to get married. If they had gotten married, then their marriage would have been recognized by God. God loves marriage, he created it. And Jesus is our Father over any other father. Many people can have rough relationships with their parents and Jesus fills the gap, even if the parent is still alive. So I feel like your interpretation is a bit harsh.

@TheChosenSleuth

Ай бұрын

Sure I’m fine with them being in love. But, the whole point of this scene is to put Jesus first and they aren’t. The only thing either have talked to Jesus about in the last 2 seasons is their relationship lol.

@priscillajimenez27

Ай бұрын

Yeah plus we notice that Ramah doesn't indulge in her feelings for Thomas until it is confirmed that they can be together. She even told her she acted like she didn't like him because she didn't know where her future holds.

The power of romantic love - Ramah sees her future with Thomas, and following Jesus. To her, her dad is keeping her from following her heart, from letting her "grow up".❤

When Jesus looked at Ramah I think he foresaw her death. That is why he said no? Yes, I chose a path my parents and family disowned me over. But, that bible passage was my solace.

They choose Him over family, but do they choose Him over each other?

@TheChosenSleuth

Ай бұрын

This guy gets it 👍

@josselynleiva3282

Ай бұрын

That is so true!!! The thought has crossed my mind. Like maybe Raman is following Jesus to have Thomas

@ladybaby3

Ай бұрын

@@josselynleiva3282Ooh kind of like how people will convert to Christianity, but only because their partner is a Christian and/or requires conversion for the couple to stay together. But the converted person never really wanted a relationship with Jesus - they just wanted a relationship.

@josselynleiva3282

Ай бұрын

@@ladybaby3 or like seeking Jesus for selfish ambitions some only Jesus for a potential spouse.

I don't think anyone in her village would over ride her father, he seems to be very influential. She and Thomas chose Jesus and so they had a right to aak Jesus for his permission, I think the music is because Jesus knows what's coming for Ramah and Thomas. 😢

@adeline9103

Күн бұрын

I think the same.

Thanks!

@TheChosenSleuth

Ай бұрын

Thank you thank you!

I thought Ramah was implying her father disowned her for choosing to follow Jesus and wanting to marry Thomas. Would that constitute a rude by her?

I think being on the messianic Jewish (believing that Yeshua/Jesus is the Jewish messiah) route has been challenging (because of replacement theology) there are not many of us and there has been some pushback from Christians and family members. I don't expect anyone to understand but that is my journey.

I struggle at the moment with my ex we have a Kid she says I don't put Him 1st I think about him all the time Yet When I say anything remotely about Loving God more and that I know my Son will be protected no matter what she just laughs and doesn't even think of God

@MrDavenez

Ай бұрын

It's a good thing she is your ex, sometimes it happens, and I'm sure you love your son but is she talking about putting him first as in taking time with him and paying attention to him or is she talking about your relationship with God ? You can put God first and still be a good Dad. Kids need attention and love to thrive and God wouldn't mind if your spending time with your child. As a matter of fact he would be so happy your showing him love. We are human after all and unless your a priest you have other things in your life. Jesus will always always understand your love for your son ❤ And he would be proud of you ❤❤❤

@MrDavenez

Ай бұрын

But do not back down on your relationship with God if it's some kind of jealousy on her part. You should always have a relationship with God, and just be kind to her and try to get her to see his goodness ❤

@robertovillarrealjr.7894

Ай бұрын

Im in the same boat. She doesn’t understand or believe in God. I’ve given my son to the Lord and trust he will be taken care of but that means I have to support my little one, visit my little one and teach and love him. It’ll get better if God wills it for us.

@robertovillarrealjr.7894

Ай бұрын

Im in the same boat. She doesn’t understand or believe in God. I’ve given my son to the Lord and trust he will be taken care of but that means I have to support my little one, visit my little one and teach and love him. It’ll get better if God wills it for us. Pray with him and bless him. Ask the Holy Spirit to come upon him.

My wife thinks you are all messed up on this, but... The first time I saw this, in the theater, I felt that the whole story arc with Thomas and Ramah was an object lesson to explain the concept of leaving family to follow Jesus. I had been wondering why there should be such focus on a love story and this was the justification for the whole thing. I appreciate your perspective on the relationship from Episode 1, although it is sad to hear. I am hoping that the Aftershow for the next episode will help explain the whole thing a little better.

Wow this really a great insight. Another way to look at it is when we look to our spouse for our source of happiness rather than to God. I’m curious if anyone can answer this for me : is the wedding ring what originated from the term mohar?

I May be looking to far into this but as they were walking and asking Jesus for the blessing to Mary. Jesus pauses for a while and His face looks so pained. Was it because he knew Ramahs fate and it hurt him to think that the relationship would not flourish and it will break Thomas heart? Or was it because of the disciples still not understanding Thanks for your thoughts!

Thanks for another great video!

If you talk about your past, please have Mrs. Snipe with you.

I agree with you on this, here everyone is on a trip with Jesus, and instead of being patient and mindful of the reason for the trip, they decide to press the issue of getting married and compromise so many things. We have to look at this from the aspect of what time and culture they are in, not ours. I feel this relationship represents how so many things can become an obsession to the point Jesus is no longer at the center.

@mirrov246

Ай бұрын

thomas says that jesus specifically told them they can talk abt that on the way! and smiled! so i don't think the timing of bringing this up is too wrong. besides, he revelas more abt himself and why he was here jumping off of that! you may call it a win-win even lol. Or at least very much okayed and welcome by jesus.

Hello Brandon.

Looking back at season 2, and the reaction we see from Ramah when Kafni leaves, we can see that she does love him. But considering how Kafni is written to be quite the stubborn man, I guess we’re supposed to infer that while their relationship is loving, it’s not as close as one would hope. I’m not sure if they ever specified how old Ramah is but her ability to almost easily break herself away whatever feelings she has for her father (and the rest of her family) makes me think of teenage protagonists who go against the wishes of their parents, to satisfy their desires (usually to be with someone they love). I agree that we should love God more than anything/anyone else in this world, and that we can’t allow others to take His place in our hearts or lives. So like you said, in many ways, Ramah being able to leave her father behind to follow Jesus is great. But I think the writers are quietly suggesting that her real motivations (at the moment at least)are more so for Thomas, hence why she looks at him. It’s not that she doesn’t want to follow Jesus. But if Thomas wasn’t there, would she have gone to be with Jesus? Or is Thomas first, and Jesus second? And granted, she’s a fictional character, but even so, these questions worth considering and asking. It can lead us to consider the reasons in which we follow Christ. Edit: I want to add one more comment. One comment or stated that based off how Ramah’s attitude towards Joanna’s donation last season, the it indicates she’s spoil to a certain extent. I agree with this reading.Obviously she’s a sweet and kind women, but it does appear that her family spoiled her to an extent. And perhaps her line of work also played a role in that. This can also explain why she can easily detach herself from her family. To be spoiled, even in the smallest sense, can lead to entitlement. And entitlement can lead to a disregarding of others.

Ramah is in love and as such she has already transferred her affections to Thomas' household. Of course she surely WAS upset when the rejection happened, but she is now looking forward to an exciting new life with Thomas in service to Jesus. I do agree that she looks a little too happy when she says the words, though. There should be a shadow of some traumatic hurt there as a result of losing her family, even if only briefly. It may have been a director's choice rather than the actor's, but it makes her seem a little shallow. I grew up Jewish and turning your back on your family is no small, easily done thing. Also knowing that her father may NEVER understand why she has chosen to disobey him, and NEVER understand the joy of knowing Jesus, should also make her feel at least a little wistful. I feel like Ramah should have been given a scene to deal with this struggle before making this Herculean leap into her happy new life without her family.

Hello sir.

How do we answer those who will bring up the prophesy of Zechariah for John's life purpose to 'turn the hearts of the fathers to the children and the hearts of the children to the fathers' as a point of what they would call a 'contradiction' of Scripture?

@cailin5301

Ай бұрын

How is that a contradiction?

The writers wrote themselves into a corner with going with the wedding angle. Now they have to figure out how to remove it and spend screen time to do so. Leaving thomas as a bitter angry person.

@TheChosenSleuth

28 күн бұрын

Nah, this was planned since season 1. Dallas has spoken about it.

It seems like when Ramah stood against her father in the beginning it was to follow Jesus, but she and Thomas also were falling in love, so now a part of their motivation is not only to follow Jesus, but also to make a union happen that is against her father’s wishes. They are putting a lot of energy into working around the law regarding marriage and trying to find exceptions. I feel Jesus is saying I am not here for the reasons you think, division will happen when you follow me in truth, but division can also happens when you pursue your own desires. Following Him in this scene would mean not just walking behind him, but also sharing in His grief. This scene shows how alone Jesus is, even when he is with his disciples.

I think Ramah is all starry eyed and romantic and has left her father for Thomas more than Jesus. That's not as big a criticism as it sounds, I might have done the same at one time.

@TheChosenSleuth Brandon, Ramah asks Jesus to 'give her away' at her wedding. Is that even something that happened in the Jewish Culture, especially then?

I do not feel like Ramah want to marry Thomas for love. I thought the only way she could follow Jesus was to be married because it looked frown upon her traveling with a pack of men. I thought that was the reason because in the beginning she kept on ignoring Thomas advances. However, she did not want to be left out. I think that is why Jesus reacted the way he did because it’s not a game and he’s not going to be with them soon.

I’m surprised that Jesus would have even considered giving her away. It all seems so wrong

@mirrov246

Ай бұрын

well she already left her family and village for jesus so...

@angeleyes3386

Ай бұрын

He explained why he came.

Now I’m done with the chosen 😮

So sad how the apostles and the followers of Jesus missed it right here how quickly Thomas and Rema move past with what Jesus, said, and are so focused on their marriage. I also agree to I feel like Rema would be way more crushed, and her spirit would be less uppity, if she had gone through this with her father

@mirrov246

Ай бұрын

yeahh. in the bible the scene runs _quite_ differently, but for the cinematographic and storytelling purposes, the scene was made to go like this.

If Jesus gives Ramah away, that would make Kafni hate Jesus.

Cut thr arm and pluck the eye. You can love them but still be separated. How can two walk together except they agree.

I'm going to throw a different spin on this. Jesus already knows her outcome, which is why he said no. In Chosen Lore Ramah is now going to be considered the first Martyr, even over Saint Stephen, who is really known in the Christian churches as the 1st Martyr. I bet Dallas, Tyler, and Ryan didn't think of that aspect. Oops.

@samueljennings4809

Ай бұрын

@ reginapontes5672 Honestly this makes me think that they’re going to go the direction of her not actually being “martyred”, and therefore the whole debacle with her and Thomas wasn’t about persecution but about being foolish in how they went about things.

Do you think Jesus knew that the deciples couldn't understand ?Do you think God told Jesus why ? There are so many things Jesus knew beforehand but do you think God withheld the fact that his deciples would never understand 🤔

@annietoups5531

Ай бұрын

Jesus knew before hand because of the scripture written by prophets. He was fully man and fully God. In scripture it says that understanding was withheld from them until after the resurrection. They needed the Holy Spirit to understand. They just might have tried many ways to prevent what had to happen. The Chosen makes it look like Jesus knew everything before hand. Very confusing for many. Just remember he was fully man.

@MrDavenez

Ай бұрын

@annietoups5531 No The Chosen didn't make me feel that way " like he knew everything beforehand" I knew I had read before that they didn't understand for a reason but I couldn't remember exactly what the bible said. I appreciate the info on the subject, yes that's true they may have tried to stop what had to happen. It was just confusing to me.

I don't think Ramah is being disrespectful at all. I do understand that is how it will be recieved by her father and any non believers in Jesus in there community. Say a woman who grew up in a non Christian household accepts Christ and goes on to fall in love with a Pastor. The Pastor asks her parents for her hand and they say "no" .... should she not marry him out of respect for her parents? (I know a couple who were in this exact situation.) There is no disrespect intended. But she has chosen Christ over her family exactly as Jesus said. But Jesus is not talking to Ramah here. She is the example. Will the others be able to make the same choice when and if they are faced with this choice....

Or maybe her father disowned her.

Is the bride price the same as a dowry?

@TheChosenSleuth

Ай бұрын

No, the bride price is paid to the wife’s family to replace her time in labor for the homestead and her place in the family. While the dowry is actually used by the married couple to start their life together. There’s more to it than that, but that’s the basics of it.

@gladyswanjohi816

Ай бұрын

In our (African) culture it's both terms refer to the same payment to the bride's family as a token of gratitude before the wedding/marriage. I've noticed most Asian cultures do it like this as well

I thought this was so wrong of them - this should have happened after shiva. But they are human, just my opinion.

Regarding your father comment [approx. 3:55]: I immediately thought that Jesus and the Father in Heaven are one, and that Remah had chosen her TRUE father. God is our Father, the only one we have forever and ever. Jesus teaches us that when we have to choose, we should choose our Heavenly Father over our earthly parents. Remah did the right thing.

I felt so uncomfortable watching the scene with Thomas, Raima and Jesus. After you explained how inappropriate their plan was, it didn't feel right that they asked Jesus to give her permission.

But Jesus says if we love father and mother more than Me is not worthy of Me.

Maybe she is done with her biological father, maybe he is treating her very badly ? And she is going against his wishes by marrying Thomas and following Jesus ❤

This may be a stupid statement because I don’t know all the details of what has to be what, but is it reasonable that I want Atticus to end up being Paul? He’s probably not mean/violent enough for the pre-Paul Saul 😂

@annehunt787

23 күн бұрын

Well, Atticus is just plain Roman. The Apostle Paul was a Roman citizen but he was Jewish. If you want to see more of that actor watch Amazing Love: The Story of Hosea. It’s a Christian movie and he plays Hosea. It’s good.

Brandon didn't you say in the previous video about Rama and Thomas that she was being deceitful by trying this other way to get married? If Jesus is agreeing with trying this other way, then it can't be decitful. Also as others pointed out to leave against her father's wish and him "speaking harsh words", would imply that see was disowned by him.

@TheChosenSleuth

Ай бұрын

I never said she was being deceitful just disrespectful basically

@jamesfarrell4545

Ай бұрын

You're right, I watched the video again and you didn't say deceit but disrespect. I think I felt it was deceitful not you🤭🥴

I can't really understand how you can say that Ramah is being disrespectful. Not one adult in my life, when I was a young adult, would have ever helped me if my parents refused to allow me to marry the person I knew God wanted me to marry. If she's disrespecting her dad by asking Jesus to be her witness and give her away, then she's disrespecting her father by following Jesus against his wishes. She loves her dad and her village. Please help me understand how you came to this conclusion.

@TheChosenSleuth

Ай бұрын

So we can't bring this into our own time period. TODAY I would say, go ahead leave your family and give everything to Jesus. However two things are definitely off here with Ramah. 1) She is in the first century, where things were very different. What she's doing here would basically NEVER happen. 2) While her following Jesus is amazing, she didn't even speak to Jesus when she got back, and the first thing she said to him was about her marrying Thomas, not asking what Jesus wanted her to do or seeing how she could follow him more closely.... I just think it's clear that her heart ( and that of thomas) is focused more on this marriage than following Jesus here. So when Jesus says to put him first over their family they are fine doing that to Kafni, but not to eachother. On top of all of that they ask Jesus this selfishly DURING his cousins funeral... That's Why it's Messy. Hope that makes sense.

@morninglory576

Ай бұрын

@@TheChosenSleuth That makes a lot of sense. Thanks for clearing that up for me.

@musicadegigi

Ай бұрын

I agree her timing for asking Jesus this was disrespectful because of him grieving over John.

Jesus is talking primarily to the persecuted Church. Those who are given an ultimatum. If you follow Christ your family and culture will disown you..

the love story between thomas and ramah was made up to show the disciples had girlfriends and wifes, not even in the bible ,the chosen needs to warn the viewers that what your about to see isnt recorged in the bible period,,,,

@annehunt787

23 күн бұрын

Some of the apostles besides Peter had wives that even traveled with them. The Bible does record that in I Corinthians 9:5. No one was recorded named Ramah.

@bruceallen8781

20 күн бұрын

@@annehunt787 THATS WHAT I SAID i know they had girlfriends and wifes but THOMAS AND RAMAHS LOVE STORY ISNT EVEN IN THE BIBLE RAMAH WAS A VILLAGE PERIOD

This scene is confusing in my opinion. Ramah's clearly in the wrong, but it seems like Jesus is supporting her. Does anybody know why?

@cathytalbert6548

Ай бұрын

Maybe because she’s not in the wrong? After all, it all centers around Kafni’s rejection of Jesus & his displeasure at Thomas & Ramah following Him. Just my opinion.

@simplykids5424

Ай бұрын

That is true, but to me it seems like Ramah is putting her marriage above Jesus and Jesus is supporting her. But anaways, thanks for the input.

Remember how Rhama treated Joanna? She was so suspicious when Joanna gifted the ministry. I think she's spoiled and there's a selfishness in her that's hard to explain.

I did not like the storyline of Thomas and Rhama. I could have definitely done without it.

Stop going against the music of the chosen there was no music in the history of the Bible when God the father or Jesus Christ the son chose the disciples or there was no music when Jesus was crucified or when God did miracles. There was no music of the actions God and his chosen ones made. So stop and what do you got against Thomas and ramah huh?😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡

The only thing I got from this scene was Jesus using the situation with Ramah and her father to bring another teaching to his disciples about what it means to follow Christ and the Father. Whether or not Ramah was choosing Thomas first is a different story…maybe she was and didn’t even know that’s what she was doing. But in that moment Christ was letting them know the reason He was there and what we may endure when we choose to follow him wholeheartedly.