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This Western Star 49X 6x8 Can Tow More Than Half A Dozen Dually Trucks COMBINED!
GIVE THE GIFT OF A TFL T-SHIRT! You know the truck and car lovers on your list want one. (www.duckco.com.... Andre takes a look at the one of the biggest versions of the new Western Star 49X around. This one is "tri-drive", sporting three dually axles set up for a British Columbia logging configuration. Here's how it performs!
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How did you guys get Optimus Prime to do a video with you guys? Why didn't he transform? Was he shy?
As someone who assembles the new 49x at the Cleveland N.C. DTNA assembly plant, I'm glad that it's getting such great reviews.
@jaywade6443
3 жыл бұрын
My company makes the hood handles and the door steps! We are 2A USA, we ship parts to you guys in NC😊
@jconk771
3 жыл бұрын
@Air Force Juan it's a very cool job, we take a lot of pride in all the freightliner and western star trucks that we build
@phoenixsui
2 жыл бұрын
Love how it looks. If i could freely choose a Truck and i was a Trucker i would choose this Model but with 6x4 sleeper i think.
You and Dan Atkinson have got to start a TFL Heavy Haulers channel! Andre and Dan would make a perfect team!
My man Saw a manual transmission and escaped the cab real quick 😂
@seancooke4127
3 жыл бұрын
Maybe the next video is the manual demonstration.
@shubhamjalwal3893
3 жыл бұрын
@@seancooke4127 maybe, maybe not!
@seancooke4127
3 жыл бұрын
@@shubhamjalwal3893 would be fun though. Is it an Eaton Twin Splitter or a Roadranger?
@zxej6879
3 жыл бұрын
@@seancooke4127 Should be a Super 18. They have a spliter and slider on 1 stick. Really easy to drive. The automateds and automatics can roll over a tanker. By shifting at the wrong time. Driving a large vehicle is about managing time and space in a literal sense. Speed is the effect of distance over time. Space, is managing where you are. And what is around you.
@xobxx5150
3 жыл бұрын
@@zxej6879 it’s just a regular 18
When the border opens. It’d be cool if u could negotiate a ride-along w the BC logging trucks...those logging roads are knarly. Different breed of truckers
@djfitzgerald2193
3 жыл бұрын
Why wait ? hop a board a cement truck there about 38 k top heavy off center load off rode fun and yes they will lean over on you and you may find yourself trying to unglue the seat from your butt
@banffdigger
3 жыл бұрын
@@djfitzgerald2193 let me know when you have a 4 axle wagon that weighs as much or more then the truck trying to push you off a tight switchback. Seen guys that came from the oil patch haul one load and quit. Oh and they put the trailer brake in a shitty spot.
@robbalinski1606
3 жыл бұрын
@@djfitzgerald2193 I dont think you get just how scary logging roads in B.c. are......your often loaded just as high as a cement truck and far far heavier going down hill on glare ice often with a straight drop off on one side down windy rough roads. Off roading is what logging is! The road isn't actually a road, its just a beaten path into the bush.
@metalvibrations
22 күн бұрын
We're a different breed alright, but it's a ton of fun in the woods!
Speaking from the heart of BC logging, with my step dad who is a logger. The roads are crazy. I can't imagine trying to off-road a fully loaded Semi like they do
@ethanmonaghan6670
3 жыл бұрын
The logging roads are narly on the island
@metalvibrations
22 күн бұрын
It's fun, you should give it a try!! I love it
Oh man, I'm so excited to see all of these videos! I was super happy when this new truck got put into American truck simulator but to see it like this is awesome!
Name of the new channel TFL heavy haulers
Thanks for explaining the space between the cab & logs / trailer thing. As a driver, I'd wondered about that.
This new truck is featured in the snowrunner video game. It’s an awesome game to play on console or PC if you’re into heavy trucks and off roading!
@alphonsotate2982
3 жыл бұрын
CSX HAS MODIFIED HI RAIL KENILWORTH BOOM TRUCK VERSIONS EQUIPPED RAIL COUPLERS AND TRAIN HORNS ON THEM TO PULL UP TO EIGHT MAINTENANCE RAIL CARS
I was hoping Andre was going to take this for a spin and do a 0-60 fully loaded while trying to shift an unsyncronized transmission
BC logging roads are a bit different from just about any Texas off road challenge. And then there's snow... The province is larger than Texas by almost 100,000 sq miles and it's basically a huge mountain range with rain forest on the slopes. There are plains, deserts and epic rivers as well as very abundant wildlife everywhere. There are probably more than 100,000 miles of logging roads, ranging from (dangerously) in current use by trucks such as this to barely negotiable tracks unused for 50 years. BC is big, rough and wet.
Awesome video again Andrey. This is the truck I want next. Got the 4900 series. Keep on showing big trucks. You are doing great. Greetings from British Columbia.
These videos are not complete without Andre wearing a construction hat with his name on it.
What a funny story. Thanks for sharing that Andre. Good demonstrations on how you can do your pull ups from mirrors and door pockets. Keep this content coming. Enjoy it.
It's important to add that standard features can be removed for a credit when ordering these trucks
That's a good looking truck. Everyone here in the PNW uses kenworth and peterbilt though because that's what everyone knows how to work on. Logging roads are hard on the trucks but there's plenty of trucks from the 70s still working around here. They don't rust out they usually just get too expensive to repair.
1:31 - my new wallpaper!
Love this truck. Keep up the great videos
Awesome Rig!!!☺..looks like it could tow a house...it's got big axles...Solid built truck!!
I'll take one for Christmas. My specs are set forward axle with 48 inch flattop sleeper detroit dd16 600hp 2050tq with 18 speed. 14600 front 13200 drop and super 40 rears.
Thank you Andy for reviewing the bigrigs!!! Been a long time fan and love your vids👍👍This has to in my opinion be the sexxxiest truck in many years!!! Way to go WESTERN STAR...
You think that's big go stand next to a KW W900 with a four trailer outback road train hanging off the back - those rigs can easily pull 170 tons and go through a lot harsher roads/climate than what Texas or Canada has to offer.
@doolittlegeorge
3 жыл бұрын
"what's legally allowed" and allowed by terrain (un-real steep mountains in the Pacific Northwest and BC/Alberta.) Even travelling up and down the El Cajon Pass into and out of Los Angeles is no simple matter and that is just ahem "plain old truck driving" ahem.
That is a badass monster of a rig pulling all that weight off road my God thank you @tfltruck this was an awesome video
Beautiful Star Car. Love a Western Star.
As a heavy hauler I love how excited Andre gets with the new toys. Hammer down driver!
I love to see this segment andre
This was awesome!
It seems like the cab of a Cascadia with a Western Star hood.
@mail_liw
3 жыл бұрын
Technically it's a Mercedes because they own Freightliner and Western Star. For example that "new" steering wheel is from a Mercedes Actros and has been since 2012 so it is new to the North American market but not a new design.
This been my money maker in snowrunner lol
I can't wait to see these on the road!
I’m hoping into a new 49x come the new year. Still waiting for it to be delivered from factory and it’ll be driven on British Columbia logging roads. But I’m very curious about the leg room. It didn’t look like to much leg room.
Hello tlf from Vancouver, British Columbia!
I love content like this I love all vehicle content but I'm a sucker for rigs Andre next let's get you and Mr truck (Kent sundling) to drag race these bad boys they certainly have the power and they off-road so why the hell not lol keep up the good content you guys are my favorite channel hands down #diesel power💪💪
They even colored the intercooler hot side pipe red and cold side pipe blue!?!? I could watch this video all day! It’s stuff like this that made me become an engineer.
I'd like to see that truck on the scale. If that is actually 130K, the fifth wheel needs to be on the front half of the center tandem, not the rear half. Otherwise, with a trailer that heavy, anytime you accelerate you'd shift too much weight onto the rear axle and off of the steering axle. You want all that weight shifting onto both rearmost axles while also allowing enough weight shifted forward, or you're losing steering traction constantly.
@brucie7350
3 жыл бұрын
Definitely not 130k lbs. A western Canada setup like that you'd be at max GVW at around 105k lbs on 6 axles. Reason the 5th wheel is so far back is that its the wrong trailer for a tridrive. They build trailers with longer necks specifically to accomodate the longer wheel base of the tridrive. The sweet spot for placement of the log bunk/5th wheel is usually around 22 inches ahead of the center drive axle. Will vary depending on wheel base.
Great video sir 👍🏻🇺🇸🦅 can’t wait to see the video
We have two 2015 western stars 4700sf and we dont really like them too much because the cabs feel cheap and things dont hold up as good as our other trucks. Hopefully these new cabs are going to be alot better.
Great truck, great video!! 👍👍👍
will there be a video with a large sleeper cab one ?
What happened to that Defender ? Did the Lemon law work ?
Hi Andy this truck is awesome nice video bro
@philtripe
3 жыл бұрын
whos Andy? are you trying to be rude to Andre?
@kgositheophilusbakwena3632
3 жыл бұрын
@@philtripe no mate you really dont understand jokes
The perfect video for boring monday 😍🥰😍
@8:50 There’s no way that truck has Adaptive Cruise Control with Stop & Go with a 12 speed manual transmission. That’s gotta be a mistake?
How does the def and regen system work in northern Canada or Alaska ? Or how about the “driver assist” ? How does that work in snow storms in Canada ? Please tell us.
I can’t wait to tow IT because if emissions 👏🏾
Great video, keep them coming
I see this truck will compete with Volvo and Scania, the engine displacement, power and torque are very similar.
@takiman1
3 жыл бұрын
And still Scania and Volvo are the top dogs.
@autobootpiloot
3 жыл бұрын
The engine is nothing special. It’s all about the ruggedness of the truck and I think that’s very different than a European style truck. I would love to see a comparison between the two. Use this truck for a season in the Scandinavian countries and a Scania or Volvo in bc for a season.
@moisescastillo217
3 жыл бұрын
@@autobootpiloot also which one will last longer, and how reliable will be
Wow what an amazing Truck & Video, Keep the Vidos Coming, 12-11-2020.
What's the wheelbase of the truck no info🤔🤔 always nice to say wheelbase big rig possibly it as disc air or drum air brakes and if it has a dual steering gearbox small details😁 Hope to see more series of rigs and medium duty trucks 💯💯💯🤙🏽👏🏽👍🏼
Nice review, would like to see it off-road 👍
Someone please tell me if a Mack or Kenworth 8x6 is sold in the USA
Aerodynamics plays an important part in Daimler's truck design because every little bit does help with mileage, vibration, and noise, so those mirrors are purposefully engineered with aero in mind. Respect the mirror! LOL
configure for m 100 miller or all there wreckers to 30 ton. ?????
MANUAL TRANSMISSION WOOOOOO GIMME NOW!!!!!
18 speed transmission and 600 hp that’s my type of truck
The Daycab is the only thing different from all the other cabs Midroofs and Big sleeper is from Cascadia/ Coronado
He is wrong about part of that space between the load and truck you don't want go nearly your air and pigtail lines . That space is there to disbaturate your weight
Western Star has a good reputation in BC. I knew a tree planter that got a ride with an empty truck and was scared with the speed. I think the road used radio signalling though.
Yeesssss Lad. A sexy Beast of a truck. Very impressive Tow Pin.
Oooooh that back window is gunna be expensive lol
With the cockpit you can see that they belong to Daimler Trucks.
Go to Michigan, they haul 160k all day without permits.
@wyo1446
3 жыл бұрын
That's because they have a shit load of axles.
@Mr.Highway
3 жыл бұрын
Usually heavier..alot heavier...
@TonyBenton0728
3 жыл бұрын
Between the weight and winter weather some of the worst roads in the nation.....
@Mr.Highway
3 жыл бұрын
@@TonyBenton0728 the thrill of the adventure.. load'em down boys just short of tires touching... We're making money 💰
@TonyBenton0728
3 жыл бұрын
@@Mr.Highway Yes I guess you are; I drove on those roads from Indiana or Georgia when I live crossing the border at Port Huron and making deliveries to other locations in Michigan. Retired now don’t have to do that anymore.
LED headlight with defrost😎
West Texas oilfield roads rough? Them are highway roads compared to southern New Mexican oilfield roads
How much squat does it have when you hook up the trailer?
@frankycomeau
3 жыл бұрын
none the air suspension level the truck out automatically
i enjoyed this review kid in candy store.
That's a building with wheels.
And Any truck setup Properly can haul the same weight.
price?
Yes, but what's the quarter mile time? (G)
Just in time for lumber prices to soar. Still as trucks go this has nothing on a Caterpillar. Be interesting to see if both John Deere and Caterpillar enter this market given their *WORLD* Class Leading communication and diagnostic systems. Meanwhile back in the real World 4 Door Sedans and I imagine pickup trucks now too are suddenly going back to manual transmissions and for obvious reasons for the 2022 model "Year of the Semiconductor shortage."
Did you ask if you could drive it?
why only a half load of logs?
Mining truck driver says..."Nice toy"
"3 dually axles" LOL. "Pickup truck and SUV like interiors"... with an 18 speed ! LOL.
@georgegeorgepht
3 жыл бұрын
U forgot the “day cab means it’s short roof” “Giant bags “ “Giant brakes” 😂 “Massive really cool stuff” If this man was my salesmen, I’d laugh.
Daimler-Detroit diesel engine....In Europe take it for Mercedes Actros and Sisu Trucks...
Not sure why'd you limit your weight of logs you could carry with that heavy of a trailer!
Very nice truck, but it doesn't have the presence of a Peterbilt 388!
Rich folks use this to haul their 60 foot camping trailer
Took till 9:40 into a 11:40 video to point out He is not an Expert on Semis... should have deen the first thing he said!
Also, Save the Manual...!
please tell me you got your cdl on manual i wanna see you shift like a man
It actually sucks offroad because that 3rd axle with no drive if it was at the end it would be fine
Did you just slick shit your pants at 7:32? I'm mean, if you shit your pants its cool. I'm not hating.
Now the truck is nowhere near 140,000 pounds it does not have enough axles under it would be overloaded probably around 90,000 pounds
For some reason I thought a truck like this would have more HP and Torque?
@freedomisntfree_44
3 жыл бұрын
Nope they can be turned up but are tuned for longevity
@philtripe
3 жыл бұрын
2050 foot pounds of torque is closer to what a ship has than a normal truck... its literally over a ton
@Mr.Highway
3 жыл бұрын
Remember the emissions standards ??? Even so, the engineers are doing a great job to develop power,fuel mileage and clean air..
@Mariini
3 жыл бұрын
Well, you (NA) have smaller trucks so you don't need as big engines. 😉
@Mr.Highway
3 жыл бұрын
@@Mariini true,but.. We have the largest commercial rail system and the largest interstate highway system (paved and non paved) in the whole world.. 🇺🇸🇨🇦💪
fifth wheel take foward minimum 1 meter...steeraxle is not haul weight,wrong steer tyre adeshion..
Tri-axle is cool even by Australian standards. Cracks us up that you guys have massive long prime movers with short bogie axle trailers.
@Mr.Highway
3 жыл бұрын
THAT'S just hooked to the trailer for demo. They will load that truck down it's whole life.. no scales in the woods.. lol 😂 Or moving oil rigs around.
@zxej6879
3 жыл бұрын
Australia has it's massive road trains because the railroads don't run year round in some locations. Some North American locations allow double 48ft or 53ft trailers. Single axle 28ft trailers run as triples are dangerous. Even though Australia runs tripple 48ft trailers with triple axles, safely up to 420k#'s. I believe Austrailia limits the speed to 45 or 50mph. In America, truckers drive up to 75mph on tires rated for 65mph. If Longer Combination Vehicles were allowed like the road trains in Australia. And the drivers were paid extra for trailers over 1. The drivers would make more money. And the companies would make more money per driver. As long as the BRIDGE FORMULA is followed. And the speed limits are low. "T" endorsement drivers should do fine on North America's roads. But I personally have observed that 35ft trailers would be the sweet spot for length. And Super Single or high floatation profiles should be required on ALL axles for LCV trucks. Tandem steer axles would be a plus for added stabilty.
@Mr.Highway
3 жыл бұрын
@@zxej6879 NEVER single wide tires!!! As far as speed, most if not all tire manufacturers us the US market to develop truck tires for world markets. Triples, accident rate per million miles is lower than that of a single trailer combination.
@zxej6879
3 жыл бұрын
@@Mr.Highway The crack of the whip effect is very dangerous. 28ft doubles and triples follow the tractor very nicely around curves. But the crack of the whip on a straight highway is a preventable hazard. Tandem axles on 28ft trailers are the solution. Those axles can have smaller diameter tires for increased stability. Air disc brakes work better than drums. And air disc brakes can be another piece of the solution. I have a class A, TX endorsements CDL. I worked as an operating engineer on a research project for 6 years. That studied the effects of heavy vehicles on pavements. Water is the bad factor. Not big trucks. Floatation tires have treads available that work very well on wet and snowy pavements. The proof is with some heavy haul OTR trucks.
Its 8x6 boys... come on ;)
@alphonsotate2982
3 жыл бұрын
WE HAVE A 8X8 NOTHING NEW
@nrs91
3 жыл бұрын
@@alphonsotate2982 what's your point? I was just commenting that you normally state total axles before drive n axles I.E. 8x6 not 6x8...
My dad’s 2015 International Eagle 9900i Cummins can beat that truck
I was excited about this truck until I realized they team up with Freightshakers for that Detroit engine. Nothing but a mechanical nightmare
Why do american semi trucks still use manual gears? In europe most semi trucks use automated manuals (i work at a DAF garage and rarely see a manual) i get that some drivers prefer it, but they're on par in fuel efficiency so to me it seems more logical that the companies would buy more automated manuals.
@sierravortec2494
3 жыл бұрын
I’m a truck mechanic as well in Canada. I’m seeing a lot more automatic transmissions now but some guys, mostly older guys are die hard manual. They say it’s easier to drive and control especially in slippery or off-road conditions
@MidniteLiquid
3 жыл бұрын
We use manuals because of the simplicity, the durability, and the cost-effectiveness. It is also in large part due to driver culture and preference.
@wyo1446
3 жыл бұрын
What the hell's an automated manual?
@sierravortec2494
3 жыл бұрын
@@wyo1446 it’s a manual transmission that’s electrically controlled by a computer, it’s actually a pretty cool idea.
@josemigueljr
3 жыл бұрын
Shifting through gears in a semi is fun and satisfying. Autos are nice if you're in the city with stop and go traffic.
The interior looks sooo mercedes I guess western star used mercedes products in their trucks
@josephpak4277
3 жыл бұрын
Western Star is now a partial subsidiary of Daimler Trucks (Mercedes Benz) along with Freightliner. So techinally the Freightliner Cascadia is like an American style Actros. However I do like the Western Stars much better.
I still rather a Mack product!
@alphonsotate2982
3 жыл бұрын
THEY MAKE THE ALSO IF YOU GOT THE CASH
@rowanprice2304
3 жыл бұрын
They need to make a new heavy haul truck, maybe a new superliner?
@mertcalc3259
3 жыл бұрын
@@rowanprice2304 they only make them in Australia.
@rowanprice2304
3 жыл бұрын
@@mertcalc3259 yeah but in the American market because we dont have a mack heavy haul on the market now
@mertcalc3259
3 жыл бұрын
@@rowanprice2304 parent company Volvo had released heavy duty VNX series
I've been driving a 4axle Peterbilt for years, nothing new or special about this.