The world needs more honest, experienced, and TALENTED techs like you who actually care about doing the job right.

@TheOnlyKontrol

5 ай бұрын

Needs more experienced and talented tech making KZread videos? Lol you realize they are out there

@360fanboy360

5 ай бұрын

there would be more techs like him if they got rid of the busted flat rate pay system

@BDortmund1

5 ай бұрын

Wrong. This guy only cares about how he gets paid

@outkast40

5 ай бұрын

Techs get fired for being honest !

@sebastionvalmont1123

5 ай бұрын

a lot of people do the job right and dont make youtube videos to pat themsrlves on the back about it

The amount of incompetence in the auto repair industry actually creates a HUGE opportunity for someone who would do the business RIGHT.

@user-jh6vt8vx4v

5 ай бұрын

You think that is only auto repair industry? Well, it is not much better on the OEM side of the fence. To further the discussion, aerospace is not that gr8 either

@future62

5 ай бұрын

People don't even want to own cars so they definitely don't want to pay more for high quality mechanics

@outkast40

5 ай бұрын

Most good Techs leave the field because the hacks make more robbing customers.

@Sol-hd7pz

5 ай бұрын

You gotta start your own shop these days as a mechanic to get your worth out of the industry. Theres good money to be made that way. Here in south florida so many bum shops make a killing doing general repairs cause nobody wants to go a dealership these days, the public is more aware, so If anyone competent with honesty starts their own place youre bound to making good money worth your effort.

@yms9829

5 ай бұрын

No it doesn’t. Cause customers do not know it. Technicians lie on the report to do less but get paid more. If this problem gets solved, it does. But unfortunately, at this moment, not at all.

I’m a mechanic. I don’t know this guy, but he sounds pretty honest. The dealership just lost one of their golden geese. They’re going to end up in a shit storm.

@leetos.4915

5 ай бұрын

Is this usually true on most cases? Just can’t believe someone in authority would deny a tech honesty or competency doing the job the right way

@sebastionvalmont1123

5 ай бұрын

he needs to stop talking to a camera alone in a garage and do something productive

@MrSocko-vn7fw

5 ай бұрын

Yeah. In most circumstances the honest tech gets railroaded in this day and age. They want the sleeziest salesmen and techs they can find. I was a motorcycle salesman for a Yamaha dealer/finance manager and the things I was forced to do by ownership was disgusting. I don’t want to say too much because I’m still disappointed in myself to this day. I needed the job. Let’s just say that most of the time you don’t really have to prove and verify people can pay their loans. This was 10 years ago but nothing has changed. I’d willing give loans I knew in my heart people couldn’t afford. Sometimes I felt so damn bad I would tell them and they still wanted the loans. It’s a disgusting game at dealerships. Eventually it’s going to come out that these loans were as bad as the mortgage crisis. I’m surprised they’ve been able to hide it this long. Sooner here than later we’re going to see an industry overhaul when the shit in the dark comes to light.

@MrSocko-vn7fw

5 ай бұрын

There are some good dealerships, there are. Few and very, very far between. I was winning awards in sales, and in front of my sales team they had no idea the predatory lending going on. I was constantly under pressure to sell or be demoted. The owner threatened the sales financiers with demotion and berated us. We were watched on the cameras 24/7 and if we got caught discussing anything it was are arse. This is common practice. Kneeling down to shake children’s hands and all these are phony sales tactics to show we were small like the kids and we were one of them. It was all bs. Some of the sales people would say f that kid when they just exited stuff like that. Or fat little Fer and so on and so forth. That’s the real world of the sales floor.

@sebastionvalmont1123

5 ай бұрын

@@MrSocko-vn7fw are you a mechanic or a salesperson? you said both but it sounds like you mostly do or did sales?

I was a service manager at a dealership that paid techs salary instead of flat rate. Employee satisfaction was much higher, fewer disputes between techs worried about some getting fed good jobs, and quality of work was outstanding. We tracked flat rate hours and used it for productivity calculations. Best job I ever had. Flat rate drives poor behaviour.

@KBergs

2 ай бұрын

Another idea is to have OEMs employ the techs and have dealers in a region rent their services from the OEM. Removes the dealer monetary conflicts and still allows them to "take care of customers"

@ericjones4368

2 ай бұрын

Need more service managers just like you salary instead of flat rate I definitely be a loyal employee!!

@Tagster1989

Ай бұрын

What was the average salary of an experience tech?

Left the auto industry altogether. It’s practically legal salve labor.

@menace2society00

5 ай бұрын

Best thing I ever did, not to mention now I actually like working on my car again and it doesnt feel like unpaid overtime 😂 Do miss the work environment and free oil changes and lift access tho

@outkast40

5 ай бұрын

The customer thinks your getting 150 dollars an hour off the labor. What a joke !

@nkhjk3457

5 ай бұрын

Yeah i just got my degree in automotive engineering and i am starting to foken regret it already ...

@wayneessar7489

4 ай бұрын

Salve like ointment?

@chevy4x466

4 ай бұрын

Amazing how underpaid dealership mechanics r

It’s not just auto boys. Feels like every industry has a tiny amount of actually talented and skilled workers.

@christophermejia6403

2 ай бұрын

Agreed. Too many people willing to lie about someone's experience to get a buddy hired. I respect the loyalty, but thry aren't doing their company any favors when the new hire can't actually do 30 percent of the things they said they could.

When I left the dealership, I was close to the shop foreman and he told me, If I was going to another dealer, he would try to stop me, but since i was getting out, he was not going to stop me! best advice!

Subaru techs have seen more engines out of a car than most people ever will in their lifetime. lol

@miriamvivo4279

5 ай бұрын

Ej257 glass engine pos

@nazc0

5 ай бұрын

Kia and hyundai techs will give em a run for their money lol

@nodrogkam

5 ай бұрын

@@nazc0 seems like a bad competition to win hahaha

@philipreasons3298

4 ай бұрын

No performance upgrades for me, just add additional cooling modifications, ( I am originally from Arizona and I never want to see the thing get hot even though I’m now in Missouri)

@SUp3RpooP3r7698

3 ай бұрын

​@@nazc0this is true, I worked for Hyundai for almost a year. Not doing engines, but we literally had like 2-3 guys dedicated to doing engines lol. Cars are hot poo, would not recommend anyone buying a Hyundai/Kia

Honest automotive technicians are on endangered species list and you are one of them.

@outkast40

5 ай бұрын

They usually get fired because the crooks make all the money for the shop.

I feel your pain bro! Worked for honda 23 years. I left 7 months ago and dont regret it. I've been through all the stories you've mentioned in your videos. Take care bro!

@caseyb2410

4 ай бұрын

I too worked as a Honda tech for 30 years and lived the life of all the dealership headaches, frustration and bullshit. Got tired of all the warranty engine ring jobs that didn't pay squat. That was my straw that broke the camels back. Went to Carmax and life was 1000% better. Paid well, great company, no flat rape. Retired last April. Leaving the dealership was one of the best decisions of my life.

i feel your pain brother. i'm a subaru tech myself. fortunately our shop does things correctly. one of my stories at an aftermarket shop goes like this. a tech did a diag on a pontiac torrent that had 100K on the clock. he told the service writer that the EGR valve was bad. so he had the next day off and they told me to install it.knowing that this tech was a dumbass i did my own diag and found the PCV and its tubing needed to be replaced. the service writer said replace the EGR valve because he didn't want to call the customer back and sell them the correct part that was failing. well the car came back 3 or 4 times with check engine light on. these other times i told them same thing PCV needs to be replaced. nope just clear the code and send it out. welp the final time it came in the engine had blown. the customer actually pulled me aside and asked why the engine failed i told them why. well a lawsuit followed and my company ended up buying them a brand new car. a simple little part that cost under $100 could have saved the company thousands. its just not subaru, there are plenty of shady people in this industry. and it drives me crazy as well.

People don't care about when a man is getting chewed out. That senior master tech would not get away with talking to a female like that. He knew that and that's why he did that. I will say, it is commendable that men like you tolerated that garbage, patience like that will pay off

@CMAutohaus

5 ай бұрын

It was the service advisor that cussed me out in the lobby in front of customers, parts dept, the other advisors, and the receptionists. I was so in shock and humiliated that I couldnt say anything.

@fmtien

5 ай бұрын

@haus should have reported the SA to HR for creating a hostile work environment.

@CMAutohaus

5 ай бұрын

Retaliation in the work place is real. And I have a family and an education I was paying for@@fmtien

@GatorTactical_

5 күн бұрын

Thrust me, this kind of stuff happens all day in every company​the incompetent get rewarded and the competent gets all the punishments. Try to go independent and make your own shop. It will pay off in the long run. @CMAutohaus

Great employers KNOW and UNDERSTAND that honest hard workers, are not just employees, but their most valuable asset.

i worked at Toyota (MDT) for decades..... we had a similar situation with a celica owners kid who would take the car out on weekends, and he mis-shifted multiple times blowing up the engine. he kept wanting it covered under warranty. i feel your pain bro.... my best day was when i finally left dealership life and took up work in another field.

Sounds like you were the ONLY honest tech at that dealership.

Hey Bro. I've seen this video and your previous one pop up on my recommended page. I'm a Subaru Tech working in Ontario Canada. I've recently just gotten licensed and am super proud of myself. I've been working at this Subaru dealer for about 2 years now. Just wanted to say, your videos have been very eye opening and educational. Thank you. For the most part, we're a pretty small shop with about 5 licensed technicians, and I showed them all your videos. They were like "wow. this guys speaking the truth". The automotive industry is going down the drain & people are leaving in big numbers. For me, I love working on cars, and i find Subarus very easy to work on. but yes, what you say is true, there is very little skilled labour left in this trade. I'm hoping I can be one of the few who does the job right every time. & yea sometimes you get fucked, but many times it's nice gravy. I guess I'm still pretty new to the industry and haven't really seen the full spectrum of how bad it gets. I relate to where you say you're a nice ass guy & maybe sometimes get taken advantage of, and for me i kind of shrug it off as "oh its okay, im helping a brotha out". But yes, i''ve learned to stand my ground a bit & I hope I can somehow get to where you are one day. Thanks for making great and enlightening videos. Appreciate you

@CMAutohaus

5 ай бұрын

Thank you for the well written and heartfelt comment. The best advice I can give you is do NOT give your life to the dealership. YOU and your family come first, your skill set and integrity as a person can get you a paycheck anywhere you desire.

@outkast40

5 ай бұрын

You really want to work in your own shop. Most guys do side work to fully benefit from their labor.

@ghostfacedc5534

5 ай бұрын

@@outkast40 see I get this, but as a young tech, the overhead costs of owning your own shop, especially in Canada far outweigh the benefits imo. I don't know much about ownership but I'm pretty confident as a leader and a teacher and think I would do a great job. But like I said, overhead costs & even obtaining clients/customers.... idk if it would be sustainable enough

@RipliWitani

3 ай бұрын

Doing your own shop should be a goal. I worked for Ford, Toyota and Subaru. I worked with amazing people but the owners of these places were all crooked. Automotive is a scam at the top, but us independent mechanics and tuners are the last bastion of honest work.

@alneno9840

3 ай бұрын

Listen to me when I tell you THIS..LEAVE THE AUTOMOTIVE INDUSTRY NOW..I'm a 25 year plus tech at Subaru in ontario Canada I'm near the end of my career 5-6years left..then I'm done..working for the Dealership is horrible Subaru has never in my 25 years ever done anything to help techs let alone make it better..in fact they have made it Worse..Flat Rate is only in Ontario not in other parts of Canada..the only person who wins in this scenario is the Dealerships..you would dedicate your life Career etc ..and for What?? A extra 0. 2/ per hour..LEAVE NOW..your only 2 years in you still have a chance to do something better..

I am a technician of 34 years that worked for Acura and walked away because of the flat rate warranty that always under pay and the dishonest tech makes all the money. A tech I worked with keeps old brake pads in his tool box and will show the customer these brake pads, and sell the brake job but the pads on the car will still have more than 50% life in them. This tech will also sell a valve adjustment and not even adjust them. Then when the car comes back of tight valves it is always given to me to repair. I would tell the service manager. The manager would say he is too busy to repair it and I would have to do the repair. The said truth is he was busy doing the same thing very day making huge money doing all the grave work and ripping customers off. The truth is this tech doesn’t even know how to adjust valve he doesn’t even know the difference between the intake valve and exhaust valves. I hear you and understand most of the techs that have been working at it for 34 years like me are all leaving because we can’t make a living at warranties low flat rate pay. And did you know Subaru will not pay a tech to diagnose a problem!! In Canada I don’t know how that is even allowed

@leetos.4915

5 ай бұрын

OMG that’s terrible bro…34 yrs of nonsense? Mennn

@h22accordturbo

4 ай бұрын

I've worked at several dealerships in the US and almost none of them pay for diagnosis under warranty except for Honda in my experience...so I feel your pain.

@michaelmurphy6869

2 ай бұрын

I worked at GM dealer, GM would pay some diag time because they said it is incorporated into the labor op. Yeah right.. also they would paid up to .3 for any concern the couldn't be verified (CND, NPF) only if you had the right time punched and your very well written story. Cross your t's and dot your i's kind of thing. Otherwise if that criteria wasn't met on either the service manager would kick it back and you were SOOL. (Sh*t Out Of Luck.)

I think there shouldn’t be service advisors unless they’ve worked as a mechanic for 1-3 years

@jxpd7898

5 ай бұрын

Shouldn't even be 1-3 should be at least 3 years

@CMAutohaus

5 ай бұрын

The best advisor at the last dealer I worked at used to be a Comcast sales man, knew nothing about cars, and came into the shop just to fart on you - hand chosen by our GM - I cant make this up

@joeykahng6219

5 ай бұрын

Mandatory 5 plus years. 1-3 years is a joke

This video gave me a little PTSD. My last dealership I quit because I kept getting shit warranty jobs, meanwhile the tech across my bay kept poking holes in radiators in every other car. No joke he had a stack of radiators at the end of his bay. He would literally replace 1 or 2 a day. He actually got fired from his previous job for lying about a car needing more work than it needed. Saying it needed a radiator or spark plugs when it didn't. Water pumps on every other hemi. Would come in late, hang out until a easy diff service came along or 60K tune up and hand off the crap that was due now by noon or 2 pm when he was handed the ROs in the morning. Get drunk on the job everyday and snort opium hash. He would hand me the evap cores which required a lot of interior removal on ram trucks. Hybrid Pacifica crap. High pressure fuel pumps on 6.7 diesels. Dumb shit. He would flag 150-180 hours, meanwhile everyone else in the shop was making 40 to 60 hours struggling to get work.

@CMAutohaus

5 ай бұрын

And get rewarded lavishly from management for being the highest producer of course.

I’ve been hearing a lot about how these dealers are having trouble finding good techs. It’s because we get treated like shit and are tired of it. We make these companies the most money by far, compared to the other departments. Im at Lexus rn averaging good hours but sometimes i wonder if it’s worth all the stress?

I left the tools once, was persuaded back into it by a dealership, I was used and abused and I got into trouble for doing things correctly, meaning slow. I didn't receive any training to update myself either. I no longer work there and I'm at a cross roads as to wether to try another workshop or dealer or just walk away from the trade all together. I feel your pain. In my experience dealerships just use and abuse you, whilst smaller workshops at least try to treat you correctly, but not always.

@CMAutohaus

5 ай бұрын

Many techs locally have gone into completely different trades (but with complimentary skill sets) or work in tech

@bushelfoot

4 ай бұрын

Management hates us gear heads because they think we break stuff it's the bad elements in a shop that ruin our reputation...

Keep your head up, mechanics is tough work but you can excel if you keep your honesty and standard. Best thing you can do is open up your own shop ad take care of your customers the way you know you should and the money and satisfaction will come. Wish I had a mechanic like you down by me here in Orlando Fl

I hear you I spent a decade at a Cadillac dealer, it was not all bad but I fixed a lot of transmissions for 90 bucks that the trans shop down the road would have got a thousand, the thing that really got me was service advisers and managers thinking that they know more that me, I am the one with the education and a 100,000 dollar investment in tools, I dealt with it, became friends with the owner, they did not mess with me anymore, also the factory rep is still a close friend, I got paid and did not have to deal with the politics anymore, I called the customers directly and got the car repaired, sometimes you need to bypass the idiots to get things done

The glass fills up over time. Most of time we suck it up. “Take a drink from the glass”. To prevent form overflow. But sometimes we can’t take it anymore. And we make a mess. The glass overflows. Breaking point.

Hey man, just keep moving foward. You will find your place. Good honest craftsman will end up were they are supposed to be.

Good decision my friend I will take my GR 86 to your shop.

@CMAutohaus

5 ай бұрын

Look forward to meeting you! I bring my dog everyday

This video is so timely, revealing and helpful to all of us during this time of US auto industry upheaval. I've been a gear head for decades, bought a 2015 Subaru outback new and can even from my consumer perspective, I could see a lot of the dealer BS that is talked about here.

I bought a brand new 2014 Subaru STI, engine randomly died one day on the freeway in 6th gear at 2100rpm @ 31,000 miles. Subaru replaced it under warranty. The tech missed one of the hoses that caused an over-boost condition (didn't find out immediately because I followed the break-in procedure for the first 1000 miles), otherwise the work seemed fine, but I didn't want to risk it, and dumped the car @ 34k. Still miss the car every day.

@MrSamadolfo

5 ай бұрын

good idea, but now the new owner mite get screwed down the line, nobody should be driving it if they are broke cause they wont have the money for an engine job

Since you left, id report all this to subaru corporate or district warranty manager. I think your service managert would love an audit. lol

@CMAutohaus

5 ай бұрын

There is a huge disconnect between corporate and the dealerships: I remember our field service tech was absolutely shocked to hear our shop foreman was paid regular ol' flat rate

Thanks for telling your story. My limited experiences having trivial service done poorly by the dealer of my nearly-new and low mileage Impreza makes me 100% believe everything you said and tells me I should just sell it before I have any serious issues. It's disgusting they'd put techs in this position.

Like I said before.. leaving the dealership was the BEST thing I ever did. It's stressful now but you will be very happy down the road. I got stuck doing CVT rebuilds because they paid bad under warranty. Other Techs would just slap them together and a few K they would be back and I get a "hey Mike can you look at this CVT it's the second time in for this" Shit gets old!

@MrSamadolfo

5 ай бұрын

some of the car channels advise avoiding CVT cars altogether when looking for a used car, especially if ur broke and cant afford to do major repairs

@MrMike-fn4hi

5 ай бұрын

@@MrSamadolfo CVT's have gotten better over the years and some brands are OK but personally I would never buy a vehicle with one. I own 3 vehicles 2019+ and none have forced induction, direct injection or a CVT... it's getting harder and harder to find vehicles without them.

@MrSamadolfo

5 ай бұрын

@@MrMike-fn4hi 🙂 neat, thx for the info

Your honesty is appreciated by the end user's/vehicle owners majority of the time. As a Lexus Dealership service tech I can really appreciate this story and verify it's validity. No flat rate technician wants to perform tedious warranty work because an honest tech will lose time/money.

I’m so glad I found you’re videos man. I went through all the same stuff at Honda!!

When you think about it, dealership lobbyists made this entire industry a joke

I'm subbing,as a Former Tech the dealer life ain't it.

im amazed ANY of those blocks were covered. Especially being modified, Subaru around me tries everything possible to not replace an engine. Even when it IS a grandma driver who stuck strictly to the oil change and maintenance schedule WITH the dealership for every single item... They would still try everything in the book to get out of replacing it. Having a tune or Nearly Any modification is an automatic denial. Mechanical/Internal modification is a no brainer.

@youmakeitreal

5 ай бұрын

Exactly. Kind of a red flag IMO. and for a 3rd time. Hard to believe

@CMAutohaus

5 ай бұрын

I have no idea how he got it covered 3 times. I even filed a case to our Tech Line about his car being so modified. Yes usually we try to decline warranty/good will as hard as we can

@all4bspinnin311

3 ай бұрын

​@@CMAutohausI made this mistake of purchasing a modified 02 wrx back in the day from the dealer. It made more power so it broke that glass 5 speed and the dealer told me to kick rocks... but they sold it to me modified 🤷‍♂️ But hey, rough driving I guess. Traded it in on a brand new 06 sti and never looked back. Subaru hated doing warranty work on the 5 speed manuals. After hearing your story it all makes sense.

Dude i do NOT miss dealing with crap JUST LIKE your sti example. Oh and dumb customers with their dumb complaints and constant whining. And yeah i had a drawer full of valve buckets that every other tech would come after although i always had them order new ones to replace mine 🤣. Your stories ring so incredibly true as to exactly what ive seen in the dealership.

@boggy7665

4 ай бұрын

Many of us have a 'dishonest coworker pushing his work onto me' story.

@Orefamilylawncare

4 ай бұрын

@@boggy7665 do what

I’m glad you’re an honest mechanic with morals. Personally I would’ve walked out that day after realizing the unethical people you were working for, however I do understand your personal situation at that time would have probably dictated what moves were best for you. With that said thank you for continuing to work in this field and share your knowledge.

Been there , Told I was to slow , but I was 5he only one who actually made repairs ,, so many guys hang a part and send it out when it comes back with the same problem I get the job to figure it out , loose my ass in unpaid time and then get yelled at because I don’t make money because I am to slow , .of course if I made more money the shop makes more money but at some point don’t you run out of customers because you work sucks ! You see more and more warranty work because the shop gets a bad rep ,, well deserved too! God bless you for having the morals to do it right for a person you don’t know and you do it because your a PROFESSIONAL! Good for you

Man it's cool that you care enough about doing high quality work that you left and opened your own shop! I wish I was close by so I can be a customer. I just bought a Porsche and I'm taking it to independent mechanics when it needs work done.

you are the professional tho. F that bro you deserve better and they ain’t doing it there.

10:18 thank you brother.

I had a hunch before about what was going on in some service shops, but, this just made it very clear that what I thought was going on, is going on.

@CMAutohaus

5 ай бұрын

Once when I was apprentice at Mercedes, they asked me to remount a tire the other way so the big chunk missing out of the sidewall would not show on a CPO car going to the sale lot. I politely declined, but I bet they got someone else to do it.

7:33 "The chickens come home to roost."

This has been an example of my entire working career as a electrician working for contractors . You got so many different personalities and agendas that you work with and for and many times they don't match your thought process . It's something not to get upset about . You probably hold a hire level of expertise than the rest and that may include your boss . You would think that would be appreciated but many consider it a threat or take advantage of . Over time I learned to be less forecoming with information and knowledge but like you wasn't happy so I decided to be my own boss and I could not be happier . This is why I do most of my home and vehicle repairs myself . Hiring someone you don't know what your going to get . Don't take what you had to go through personal . These guys live a step below you and that's how they live in their world .

@MrSamadolfo

5 ай бұрын

🙂 agree, these dynamics are everywhere, any career, any job, any part of the world, if ur a good and meek and sheep type of person then the wolves of society will always bully u, it sucks but thats the way it is

Wow, got 5 mins into this video and my heart breaks for what you went thru. The problem is that dealers are squeezing mechanics to make the big profits, but the opportunity for you CM autohaus, the market will reward you for your honesty and character! It is mindblowing that Subaru would even take warranty work for somebody who modified their car beyond putting a highflo air filter!!. I think you would be a great person to start an independent shop. People, like myself, will pay fair prices for work that NEEDS to be done.

brother I was at a General Aviation shop for 5 years, very similar situation. you did the most you could, at the whim of those that should have done the right thing but instead return to service time becomes more important. good on you.

Ideally the Dealer is suppose to keep on the shelf in the parts department all the various sizes of the valve train, so that the mechanics can borrow them to find the right size to order the first time, then u take it back to the parts department and they put it back on the shelf. And as far as that modified car I don't know whats up with that because as soon u put it on the lift and its obvious that its a street racer car deal then ur suppose to tell the customer that warranty doesnt cover this, ur suppose to get paid non warranty time and on top of that since its modified u get paid the actual time it takes u, if it takes u a couple weeks or a month or two months it is what it is, if the customer complains then tell them to pick up ur car and take a hike. Too many customers and delusional and are scammers.

@RollingThunder808

5 ай бұрын

Agree. I don't understand why a modified car would still be under warranty. Nobody should be working on the car except the dealer under warranty.

@RipliWitani

3 ай бұрын

Idk, hard to blame the guy when the dumb dealership did the engine twice.

Glad your channel turned up on my stream. Thanks for posting.

Hey man, I was just browsing and saw your video pop up. I also have my own channel, and cheers to leave the dealership for doing things the right way! I've been treated poorly myself for doing things the right way also. One day we will win!!

very common story at dealerships

You made the right decision! Hopefully they learn to treat their techs better because they need good techs like you more than you ever needed them

Greetings from Canada. Love your honest informative content.

@CMAutohaus

5 ай бұрын

Thanks for watching!

Feel your pain...love how people who never worked on cars(management)tell you how you should fix a car.

Left the automotive industry shortly after joining it. Now Im finishing a health science degree. Shame though, had the most fun as tech working with friends....dealerships just refused to pay a liveable wage

Don’t give up. You seem like a stand up guy and people respect honest mechanics. Any chance you can do your own business? The world needs more people like you Hang in there… lol, my bad… I had never seen your channel before and the video popped up in my feed. Right after watching this one another of your popped up next and now I know this was explaining something while ago. Awesome to see you have your own!!! Wishing you much much success!!

A good friend of mine worked as a tech a lt a toyota dealer. The stuff he told me was along these lines. He even said that they did not have a single torque wrench on the entire shop. Dealers are are a poor choice unless your vehicle is under warranty.

I am glad that you have left this shit hole of a dealership.. I recently have left one like this too and now I am much happier in the new place. Keep up the good work.👍

you gotta keep posting your stories, they are absolutely crazy

I’m not sure why I am mad too hearing this story. But I want to thank you for your lesson and story’s.

you're right, I quit my last job just for that reason. Good luck on your next endeavor.

worked in a service center where swapping the brake fluid in the reservoir counts as a "brake system flush" fuck me i hated myself for doing that to customers but I was the intern and i needed to keep my head down if i wanted to graduate that year for the longest time i was under the impression that dealerships was the best place to get my vehicle serviced, with independent shop being second. ho boy i was VERY wrong

@MrJ183

3 ай бұрын

I do aswell and we all know it is a scam

I started out in a foreign car repair shop back in late 60’s and into the70’s. Started in VW,Porsche and Audi dealership in Utah in mid 70’s. VW dealership in PA late 70’s. Many valve adjustments with buckets on the early Rabbit engines. I was lucky to have good service managers and good fellow engineers workers. I made the change into micro electronics because noticed how tough working as a mechanic has on your body. I joined the Navy and did six years with the added 2 years to a normal 4 year enlistment to get two years worth of advanced electronics training. Well worth it. Hope you find a better working environment and keep up your good work ethic!

I think it really depends on the brand and the dealership culture you're part of. BMW tends to be a lot of warranty work and while it is tedious, they're known to pay well. Toyota has less bs in general and most engine jobs are customer pay which is nice. I'm at a great place that gives free lunch once or twice a week, new shop equipment and ample supplies, and other techs who are pretty helpful and supportive. I'll say though that where I'm at is definitely an exception to the norm which is the sad part.

@MrSamadolfo

5 ай бұрын

I never heard of a place like that

@nateTrh

5 ай бұрын

@MrSamadolfo Dealership is pretty new, only about 6-7 years old. Only have 27 bays so plenty of work to go around; they're planning on doubling up soon actually. Although Toyota quality isn't what it used to be, at least they don't leak oil within the year or blow up engines too often. I can't imagine what the Hyundai/Kia and Nissan dealerships are like, seems like hell over there.

@MrSamadolfo

5 ай бұрын

@@nateTrh 🙂 interesting, well as long ur not being bullied and everyone is cool then stay there, yes alot of the mechanic car channels are saying to avoid new cars and get urself instead something used and has a good track record of bullet proof, inflation is out of control, people cant afford to fix their cars anymore, God help us all.

@nateTrh

5 ай бұрын

@MrSamadolfo Yeah, I wouldn't ever buy a new car now unless you just had boatloads of money. I actually have an e46 330i and z4m coupe and they're pretty good if you keep up the maintenance. Best to buy used and fix up yourself if possible.

@MrSamadolfo

5 ай бұрын

@@nateTrh cool, good to know 😊

I’m proud you had the gumpshion to speak out and express your concerns. Thank you for your honesty…. I had no idea dealers were double dealing the techs. It’s wrong.

I know your trying to be serious but the way you explain it is so funny, keep up the good work.

Hope you find a shop that appreciates you bud. good luck.you deserve better. 😊

Hey bud don’t feel bad. I was an Audi tech at a dealer and I would constantly get screwed over in similar situations like you. Get screwed on book rates from other’s comebacks. Hence why I don’t work there anymore. I feel your frustration and in the long run…you made the right choice to leave.

Thank you for sharing the truth about this corrupt industry. Good luck on your new journey. I hope all the snakes that crawled at your feet find their place in hell. You hold the high ground!

If this industry, dealerships especially would just pay mechanics an honest salary, commensurate with experience and certifications, most of these problems would go away.

I hah been work in the dealership since 1991, I left the dealership because of all these bullshit unfair warranty jobs, companies don’t care who’s come back job it is, they only care to finish the job for the customer even though it was customer fault abuse the vehicle, I never allow coworkers or managers cussing or yelling at me, one time I even argued with the GM and I never get fire because they need me more then I need them,Lol

Sounds like the state of our country. Everything good is labeled bad and everything bad is promoted as good.

You did the right thing. Life doesn't always reward honesty, but it pays off in the in long run.

I’m glad I came across your video- the factory service structure needs to be predicated on the service guys- not the sales, engineers. I hope you never give up- but I’m glad you’re honest and a repair shop would be lucky to have you.

Yup been in that position plenty of times. It really sucks to be loosing time on a big job because you're doing things the right way meanwhile everyone else is raking in the gravy. One of my many favorites is when everyone see's you doing the big job and then ask you for all the tips, tricks, and shortcuts so they can do it and not lose. Flat rate can make bad techs look good and good techs look bad. Everyone always wants the honest, highly skilled and highly trained techs but never want to pay.

I was just a detailer, my last straw was my boss coming and yelling at me before i even had clocked in to start working. That was it for me. Walked in the same day and told him im putting my 2 weeks in.

You’re a good man and you did the right thing ! You will find people that will appreciate you, if you haven’t already!

I feel your pain. It brings a saying to mind. "No good deed goes unpunished". It goes a long way to know that you did the right thing when it would have been easier not to.

That service manager should be fired then sued for allowing all these illegal practices on the job to continue.

@CMAutohaus

5 ай бұрын

Its rampant industry wide, not just with our manager, and not just at the dealer.

That last sentence hits home. Ive been there countess times. Thats the moment you know that location is no longer tenable. Move on, or wash hands and close shop. But you didn't and you should be incredibly proud of yourself

You are correct sir. Love the video. I wholeheartedly agree with what youre are saying and it is the sad truth about the automotive industry. There are those who work and do honest jobs while others who are spoon fed at the expense of others. Not sure if im glad im out of the flat rate or Comission based automotive world

Good thing that you left a place like that! Unfortunately most are like that! 👍

I consider Good mechanics extremely intelligent and are able to work anywhere fixing anything!

Thanks mann I always value mechanics behind the scenes from dealerships ever since but need your advice as an aspiring mobile mechanic. At late stage in my life right now at 43, I just realized this is what I want to do to be able to solve problem fixing cars. Any advice brother?

I watched your other vid too, very telling and rare to hear what actually does go on behind the scenes but we already know happens. I'm happy to say I haven't taken any of my cars to a shop or dealer in the last twenty years, a Jeep Jk, a 996 and a Chevy Volt (can't work on this one though). With all you've learned, at some point, you should open your own shop. Good indies I know and hear about seem to be making a killing lately, getting more work than they can handle is not a bad problem to have.

why does the valve adjustment go out , because the head has been shaved? i know you say it happens all the time, but why does it happen? just trying to understand.

I asked a local dealer's service writer how valuable his electrical technicians must be. He said his boss had let him go... a month later they had to hire him back (if certain cars were to be fixed). I bet they compensated him well and treated him better.

It's a tuff business for sure. I've left shops that wanted me to spray paint a starter with a bad connection, one that wanted to give my work to his son in law, another over physical threats. It's always best to move on and every single time I made more money. Have to stand up for yourself, but also know when to pick your battles. Tuff balance.

People don’t want to pay attention to the fine details. Except for this guy and myself. You remind me of myself. I get the same treatment and am very similar to your personality type.

I know exactly what you are going through. I worked at a dealership for a few months so I'm familiar with the flat-rate system. It works when you are getting the nickel & dime jobs (brakes, struts, suspension work), but the tough jobs will often take money out of your check. If you are not in with the service writers & parts guys you can also run into politics on that end also. The best jobs for techs are fleet services & city agencies that repair their own vehicles. Without the flat-rate system you can take your time to do the job right.

Being a good honest tech is such a thankless job. I've been there brother. Just know that you are one of the good ones, no matter what some idiot desk jockey says.

Lol me in 2003. Except a lot of work estimate half the time to actual work needed. Like you have to hustle install and not be careful to keep the car in prestine condition. Interior panels? Rip it off without tools. Headlight replacement? Just eye ball it to be straight. Suspension work? Let the alignment guys finish the job. Also, pay was crap. By the time I left, get my certs to IT industry, I was already paid double to what my ase cert got me.

Thanks for Sharing............At the "Stealer" it is all about making $$$$$$$......You can just go into any Dealership and you look all around, it is easy to see the "Overhead" is through the ceiling in order to keep the place "Profitable".....In the end it is the Tech and the Customer that get screwed. In this scenario, because the customer was "Shady" and the previous Tech too, by cutting corners, you got holding the bag. It is crazy that you got called in for getting parts to do the job "Correctly" on a warranty job. Warranty Work tends to mean lot times from with way the Dealership is set up, put a "Band Aid" on it until the Warranty Expires, so that it is on the "Customer's Dime" to really "Fix" the Issue later on down the road.

No good deed goes unpunished. Sadly this rings true far too often. I turn wrenches myself on my own cars, and I've seen the half-assed work that the previous owner(s) performed. I don't understand why someone would do that to their own car. Thank you for being a honest tech - you are a rare breed.

I quit being a Service writer for a dealership because i was also repremanded for not boosting the shop tickets with unnecessary work , costing the customers double the initial quote' - Was told by shop manager " If the techs dont flag hours" - with NON-DETRIMENTAL upsale work - Then the shop doesnt make money.. I finally had enough of the stress of pressure selling jobs, I finally got out of that line of work.... That shop went out of business 3 years later.

you may have identified the dealership in other videos but if you can, would you let us know the name of the dealership this happened at? My kids live in your area and they own Subarus. I want to make sure they never go to that dealership.

@CMAutohaus

5 ай бұрын

Its going to be a crap shoot - you have honest techs working at bad dealers and vice versa. Customers used to request a certain tech, requesting the shop foreman to work on your car is also not a guarantee.

@BusterKitten

Ай бұрын

@@CMAutohaus I will suggest to my kids and grandkids to take their late model Foresters, Outbacks, Crosstreks to your shop for any mechanical work.

I stopped working for people about 7-8 years ago and never been happier. Just with the word of mouth I am busy throughout the year working on cars I want to work on the right way.

As someone who worked 20+ years at european dealers, if your Honest, have Passion, Morals or Integrity you WILL NOT MAKE IT at a dealership.

That dealership is not for you. I will say that there are some dealerships out there that urge their techs to do honest work. I can’t say how many of them there are but there are some. Unfortunately you have to search for the right place for you (techs in general). Also that warranty customer who keeps modifying their car, needs to eorher find another place or just stay away from dealers. As a VW tech, anyone who tunes their car, automatically loses their warranty no questions asked. Even if they flash and then unflash it, the systen can detect when it happens and it stays there forever and Vw will not warranty tunes cars.

Yo, is there any chance you could create a playlist of your R32 GTR videos? I'm using your timing belt video to service mine.