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@timmccarthy5353

2 жыл бұрын

Have a human narrate. Too distracting. Jodl = "Joe-dell" - ?! Come on.

@miladsalamy5814

2 жыл бұрын

פ 9

@PeskyCitizenTX

2 жыл бұрын

Get a human that can correctly pronounce the names.

@thornil2231

2 жыл бұрын

NO!!!!!

@StalinLovsMsmZioglowfagz

Жыл бұрын

@@timmccarthy5353 They’re Spanish and this is easier for them. Only channel I know of that’s uploading this content that details exactly how Hitler broke the Wehrmacht’s back, single handedly. And they still almost won. Of course, then he rolled up his shirt sleeves, and really let them have it.

Being fired was probably the best thing for guderian. After all he survived.

@PurpleCat9794

2 жыл бұрын

Otherwise, he would have killed himself, like Model, Jodl and all the others.

@adam.summerfield

2 жыл бұрын

He has a great grandson in the USAF

@nikolaskoric804

2 жыл бұрын

Have you not watch the video. It's not 'Guderian' it's ''Goowderian''. LOL I always cringe the way Americans butcher German names. ''Goowderian''

@jefferyball7672

2 жыл бұрын

A man

@jefferyball7672

2 жыл бұрын

A man

On December 1941 Guderian retreated from Moscow without any permission the answer he gave was MY POWER IS FINISHED by this act he saved the lives of many troops. Excellent commander

@grippatherippa3909

2 жыл бұрын

I'm pretty sure Hitler ordered the retreat of army group center to a more stable defensive line while the generals wanted to advance on Moscow

@mickday5234

2 жыл бұрын

Supply line was almost non existent because of distance and lack of trucks and extreme weather. So panzer could not go any further, lacking fuel and oil and fanatic resistance of Red Army!?

@dshargani

2 жыл бұрын

@@grippatherippa3909 After retreat Guderian was suspended from his position and so did happen to few other generals.

@dshargani

2 жыл бұрын

@@mickday5234 These facts are all true but it was the PERSONAL DECISION of Guderian to retreat. this is what Von Paulos did not or was un able to make such decision and he trapped all the 6th army.

@michaelbee2165

2 жыл бұрын

Indeed. Guderian was among the very, very best of the German commanders. The invasion of the Soviet Union was complete idiocy by Hitler who as a War veteran knew damn well this invasion was a logistical impossibility. Operation Barbarosa, more than any other, demonstrates just how incompetent Hitler was (not his commanders).

Apparently Gen.Guderian was never afraid to shout back at Hitler.

@scottklocke891

2 жыл бұрын

.Neither was Jodl afraid.

@timcolledge3732

2 жыл бұрын

Apparently, Jodl had a blazing temper ! When it flared, his face would ' flush scarlet and his eyes snap beneath their frizzy bland brows'. He had often lost his temper with Hitler. FM Kesselring said that at Hitlers HQ , he had seen Jodl grow red in the face and in expressing his views, he went very near the limits of what is permissable for a military man.

@capoislamort100

2 жыл бұрын

@@timcolledge3732 they were all “yes-man”, who allowed a lunatic to drive them to catastrophe!

@Prince-jc6wc

2 жыл бұрын

Manstein?

@mikeprevost8650

Жыл бұрын

@@timcolledge3732 Kesselring was another fine general who was respected by the Allies. That respect possibly saved his life after the war. His original death sentence was commuted, and then his prison sentence after that was again commuted. Jodl wasn't as lucky.

Heinz Guderian was Hitler's very best armored commander and Hitler berated him. Never knew how Guderian had confronted and shouted down Hitler. So glad to hear this. Good for Guderian and his courage to confront Hitler to his face.

@johnarose2837

2 жыл бұрын

Watch “Rommel”

@walterthecat2145

Жыл бұрын

Rommel is overrated

@keeroe2020

Жыл бұрын

Creator of blitzkrieg. Deserved better.

@jamesgumangan1773

Жыл бұрын

Add Manstein and Rommel

@Best.Of.Britian

Жыл бұрын

Their was a prussian general who openly defied hitler in a meeting with others present, hitler backed down and gave him what he wanted

Guderian's greatest moment, for me at any rate, consist of his letters to his wife in the winter of 1941, where he expressed such sympathy for his men, at that time suffering from the horrors of Russian winter...a general who never lost awareness that his men come first...now, that's a general!

Guderian was never promoted to field marshal,him being one of the most talented and competent general in the German army.

@moshedayan2810

2 жыл бұрын

Yes its surprising

@jebatevrana

2 жыл бұрын

@@moshedayan2810 Sometimes you need generals more than field marshals.

@ws5273

Жыл бұрын

@@jebatevrana a promotion to field marshal is more political than strategic

@haisee1671

10 ай бұрын

wanna know why? office politics.

@garypulliam3421

9 ай бұрын

Field Marshall is more of an award or decoration than a promotion.

Here's a story told to me by my relatives concerning my uncle Rudy, who is now long deceased. At the end of that war, he was a 20-year-old company commander in an infantry division, part of the German 18th Army in Courland. A portion of his division was located around the Latvian port of Windau on the Baltic coast. On May 8th it was announced that all German troops in Latvia & the other Baltic states, had to lay down their arms to the soviets by a certain time the following day. Like many other German soldiers & auxiliaries surrounded in Courland, they disabled what military equipment they could, although by the strict terms of the cease fire this was forbidden. Rudy, my uncle, & a group of men from his company elected to finish the war in nearby Windau, the largest nearby town. The plan was to have a few libations to celebrate the fact that they had survived the long years of the war on the eastern front, to put it more accurately, they intended to get loaded with the freely available alcohol from the city brewery before all the alcohol in the town was disposed of to prevent it falling into Russian hands. The last thing they wanted was a bunch of drunk Russian troops rampaging through the city on the last day of the war, particularly since the town still had hundreds of nurses & German families trapped there. When they arrived, the town was silent & empty because most of the civilians living there had either left to hide in the countryside or been embarked on rescue vessels. This left primarily rear area military personnel & lightly wounded soldiers roaming aimlessly around the streets (some of them were looting locked up stores & homes, all of them still carried their weapons & sidearms, some were even walking around totting machine guns, (apparently, nobody in authority was about to stop them on the final day of the war). While they were roaming around the port area near the harbor landing(there were seven of them), they sat on a bench with their weapons & watched their last hope of being rescued depart when the last German freighter into Windau took on as many soldiers & women & children of German administrators as they could and left for Denmark. Later that night, two German patrol vessels (probably E-boats?) creeped into the blockaded & darkened harbor to refuel before the oil tanks were destroyed. The Feldwebel in my Uncles's group asked one of the boat crew if their ships might take them aboard and related to them how desperately they wanted to go home & avoid capture by the Russians. The sailors agreed to transport them. The two vessels took on about a hundred souls, including two little twin 8-year-old girls that were standing pitifully on the pier & crying, they had probably gotten misplaced during the boarding of the previous freighter & separated from their their parents. I always wondered what happened to them. The last my uncle saw of them was in Sweden, being tended to by some of the married soldiers & nurses. The vessels left port after refueling & quickly evaded nearby Russian patrol vessels. Once out in the Baltic they all presumed they had been rescued from the soviets. While the vessels were traversing the Baltic on the way to Denmark, the vessels were stopped suddenly in Swedish waters by a Swedish patrol boat & ordered to follow them into to a nearby Swedish island port. Once there, the troops on the vessels were disarmed & ordered to disembark to be interned by Sweden. Later that year Sweden turned over all interned German troops to the soviets, causing a number of German & foreign volunteers to commit suicide. Once on the soviet vessels, the Russians separated the officers from the men & stole most of their belongings, especially their wrist watches. Included among the internees were groups of Latvian & Estonian military volunteers who had fought alongside the Germans during the war. Also included were German, Estonian & Latvian nursing sisters & doctors who technically did not have to go but chose to stay with their men. The civilians were separated from the troops. Long story short, The Latvian & Estonian male volunteers were never heard from again, presumably they were executed since the Russians considered them to be traitors, the nurses & male doctors were separated and sent to Gulags in the Ural Mountains & Armenia, they were eventually permitted to go home in 1949. My uncle was repatriated in 1953. Once back in Germany he eventually emigrated with his wife & daughters to the states. I still remember him & my uncle Henry, who had fought in the US army in North Africa, arguing back & forth about why Germany lost the war. Uncle Rudy was good soul who liked his beer a little too much, from what I remember (I was very young), especially when he had too many. We still miss him, he lived an amazing life

@redtobertshateshandles

Жыл бұрын

They weren't executed. They were tossed overboard. Never waste a bullet Tovarich.

@connoroleary591

11 ай бұрын

Very tough story and courageous men. Greetings from the UK.

@ltjjenkins

11 ай бұрын

This is priceless.

@johnking6252

11 ай бұрын

Excellent story, I thank you for sharing it. War is hell it must be abolished. ✌️

@spartan0771

11 ай бұрын

Must have been cool having family who fought for the good guys

Guderian was one of the few German officers that served during WW2 that I respect. He literally wrote the book on tank warfare and wasn't afraid to stand up to Hitler. And he truly cared about the soldiers under his command.

@thomass1891

Жыл бұрын

He also didn't mind accepting Hitler's large bribes.

@hatemf23

11 ай бұрын

@@thomass1891 what large bribes

@thomass1891

11 ай бұрын

@@hatemf23 He along with other senior Wehrmacht officers were given “gifts” by Hitler to gain their support. Guderian in particular accepted large gifts such as cash, estates, tax exemptions. For more info you can google “Bribery of Senior Wehrmacht Officers” and you will get thousands of sources to look into.

@paulboegel8009

10 ай бұрын

Guderian said that Hitler's biggest flaw was that he had no family, no wife, no children, he couldn't make rational decisions because he had no idea about those he commanded.

Hitler had some of the best Generals in the war,the war was lost,what he had left to fight with was far out numbered by the allies. Hitler was so out of touch with reality. Germany had to be totally destroyed or they could say "we were not defeated ".

@ahmedakhan1

11 ай бұрын

I don't believe that Hitler, even to the very end, was out of touch with reality. As proof of this is the amazing prophesy that he made near the end when he said, and I quote from Alan Bullock's book, Hitler and Stalin Parallel Lives, "With the defeat of the Reich and pending the emergence of the Asiatic, the African, and perhaps the South American nationalisms, there will remain in the world only two Great Powers capable of confronting each other - the United States and Soviet Russia. The laws of both history and geography will compel these two powers to a trial of strength, either military or in the fields of economics and ideology. These same laws make it inevitable that both powers should become enemies of Europe.And it is equally certain that both these powers will sooner or later find it desireable to seek the support of the sole surviving great nation in Europe, the German people." The only part he did not foresee well was that Germany, while becoming a great power, would be so emasculated as to be nothing more than an American vassal. The "Asiatic nationalism" in the form of China has emerged, and to maintain its hegemonic position in face of this threat the United States has no qualms in sacrificing Europe by plunging it into a war with Russia (NATO versus Russia in Ukraine).

you know what Napoleon said about the Scots cavalry at Waterloo - "They are the finest cavalry in Europe, and the worst led". Same with the German military, and Hitler.

@antoinesilva1527

2 жыл бұрын

Their commander was reportedly point drunk.

@michaelbee2165

2 жыл бұрын

The German military was the best led, and Hitler undercut his commanders. He was a pretend military leader.

@celsus7979

2 жыл бұрын

Tired old conspiracy. Read Goebbels diary if you want a glimpse at the financing of the nazis. The source cant be much better

@nwofoe2866

2 жыл бұрын

@@antoinesilva1527 a drunken Scot? No!

@ahmedakhan1

11 ай бұрын

If one is to hold Hitler responsible for the later German defeats then he should also be given credit for the creation of a united and strong Germany and the very fine military that won great victories in the beginning of the Second World War! During the First World War the German armed forces, led by professional military officers with no interference by the political leadership, did not accomplish very much in comparison to its achievements in the Second World War. The weakness of the German state led to its collapse in 1918 while in 1945 the state held until the very end!

Hitler knew the end was near, he was desperate, grasping at straws, hoping for some kind of victory. But even a victory or break-through here would only have delayed the inevitable by a short time. This channel is interesting in that it showcases Nazi military leaders holding their ground in the face of Hitler's frustration and anger, and being honest with Hitler about events or prospects for the war. Many of the inner circle Nazis gave Hitler false assurances about what was to come, afraid to confront Hitler with negative reality.

@FortniteBlaster2

2 жыл бұрын

Not afraid of Hitler. Hitler is NOT Stalin. No General who talked back to Hitler was executed. If it was Stalin, even not clapping long enough warranted death. Stalin was a beyond evil. They were not afraid of Hitler, but they were AGAINST Defeatism, which was illegal. Why? Because Defeatism destroyed Germany in WW1, and prompted the rise of the German communist party, which massed millions of supporters, and also sparked anti-war protest and division. Division and communism is that last thing they want. It was a fanatical will to fight for victory, or nothing at all. Which is a admirable trait.

@halibut1249

2 жыл бұрын

@@FortniteBlaster2 - Nazis were not communists, Hitler hated the communists, he hated the Soviets. As for defeatism, what about German generals like Paulus at Stalingrad? And the two generals that quickly withdrew their troops from defending Berlin in '45? They accepted defeat, and wise they should have, or their armies would have been overrun and destroyed. I don't agree fighting to the death is so honorable. As Patton famously said, you don't win a war by dying for your country, you win a war by letting your enemy die for his country.

@dongately2817

Жыл бұрын

Keitel and Jodl immediately come to mind - although Keitel seemed to have found his spine somewhat

@financialfirepower5513

Жыл бұрын

oooh did ur mom slept with hittler and read his mind?

@philbryant3558

Жыл бұрын

😊

This clash was showcased in the 1981 TV movie ' The Bunker ' with Anthony Hopkins as AH and for which he won an Emmy . . . Yves Brainville a French actor played Guderian . . . the argument took place in the first 30 minutes of the film.

@brianbrady4496

2 жыл бұрын

I love that movie it's on KZread free too

Guderian was a great general militarily speaking. And like Rommel was respected by the Allied commanders.

@backstabingpike

2 жыл бұрын

Rommel abandoned his men in Africa 🤣 and in Normandy

@r.g.o3879

2 жыл бұрын

Rommel was ordered to Italy by Hitler, he did not abandon his men. One thing to remember was when Rommel went to Africa he was commanding a single division, Guderien was commanding an Army Group. Both Paulus and Rommel were promoted to General Feld Marshal as a propaganda stunt to make the German people feel better. Guderien was expected to receive his baton after reaching Moscow. If he had remained in place before Moscow he would have been promoted but he chose to save as many of his men as possible by withdrawing. The best plan for the Germans would have been to halt about a month earlier and dig in creating strong buffer states with Ukraine and Belorussia raising some three to four million men from former Russian troops who were anxious to kick the soviets from their lands. They would have done better to form an anti Soviet alliance with the poles earlier instead of invading and destroying the large polish army. The insane anti Slavic policies of the Nazis doomed the Germans to failure. If they had been able to dig in over the worst of the winter, beginning production of a long range bomber and build up their panzers to be able to stop the red army when they counterattacked in the spring

@thebutcher6449

2 жыл бұрын

@@r.g.o3879 friend wow you are right the nazi polici of anti slavic people domed germany i have hear in yugoslavia iven Joseph bros Tito contactet Hitler on the phone to join the Axis power but hitler dont trusted the slavic race sory for my bad inglish is not my native

@petergilbert72

2 жыл бұрын

@@r.g.o3879 Militarily yes, but that’d be like requiring a leopard to change its spots. The whole point of the war was the subjugation of the Slavic peoples to place them and their land/resources at the service of the ‘Aryan’ 3rd Reich.

@davidbell1619

Жыл бұрын

Rommel abandoned no one. Ordered out of North Afrika by Hitler. Was on leave at Normandy. Get your info strait before you flap your ignorant mouth.

I am grateful for any recorded history, which has survived all these years. Thank yo for sharing another excellent production.

Fantastic video,thank you !!!

Thank You!!!

Absolutely an epic part of history. Fascinating.

@waracademy128

2 жыл бұрын

Ty

Hitler especially in the final years of the war preferred yes men so it seems likely that it played out this way!

I think Hitler had a love / hate relationship with his generals. He loved them because they advanced the war, pushed forward, gave him honest appraisals of strike points or defense or retreat actions. But he hated them because he thought they didn't go far enough, didn't push harder, in some cases didn't fight to the last man.

@Bahamut3525

Жыл бұрын

German generals were antiquated and arrogant Prussian nobles who were very backward in many respects. They did not know how to conduct modern warfare.

@IrishCarney

Жыл бұрын

Yeah, he wanted his military to be like the Japanese .. utter fanaticism

@r.g.bjaguar5452

Жыл бұрын

True. Also, during the last years of the war, he personality changed dramatically due to the pressure and stress and he became overly aggressive. Different from the start of the war. Not sympathetic to him but when you see your plans almost succeed then fail, you go nuts.

@andchat6241

11 ай бұрын

I think it's worth noting that Hitler didn't accept responsibility for any of the failings of German forces , but would take credit for their successes & had denigrated most of his generals & others during the inevitable(?) collapse.

@gregorgerzson1767

6 ай бұрын

Not really. He hated them because they wanted to kill him. Since 1938 btw.

I didn't know that Guderian was only acting head of the OKH between July '44 and March' 45. I suppose Hitler never got round to confirming him or finding a suitable replacement. Guderian had never wanted the role, according to his memoirs, but who knows the reality. His predecessor, Zeitzler, had had a nervous breakdown. So it became the unstoppable force meeting the immovable object between Hitler and Guderian. Which is which is debateable.

This meeting was held on my dad’s 21st birthday. He was serving in the Navy

General guderian was possibly one of the only generals who could speak to Hitler that way and live to tell about it.

At Dunkirk, General Heinz Guderian almost defeated the English and French armies. He insisted on communicating with his officers by telephone cable, (not walkie-talkie) which he strung out before his command center. He would/could have taken both armies prisoner on the beaches of Dunkirk. Berlin call him off… .

@swagatdash9302

Жыл бұрын

Goring told Hitler that Luftwaffe was enough to defeat the Allies in Dunkirk

@johnmagill3335

8 ай бұрын

English Army?

At 1:08, upon mentionning the name of Guderian, a photo flashes in the right side of the screen... It is not that of Guderian but of Keitel!!! What a slap in the face for Guderian!!! Obviously an honest mistake as both men wore moustaches but both at complete opposites in terms of personalities confronting hitler... Nome the less a very informative video and the efforts to bring to light this obscure event in history is much appreciated. Keep up the great work!

Guderian was the very best. He constructed the panzers from scratch, led them in combat, reconstructed them during the middle war period and opposed firmly to the Kursk offensive that finally destroyed once and for all the panzerwaffe. To the end, he tried his best to provide enough armour to keep Germany from incondicional surrender. And was the only one who faced Hitler on equal terms. He certainly got moral courage. His writings about the suffering of his soldiers in Russia were impressive even today, making clear he tried to spare his soldiers lives. He was also a human commander.

@user-st4gq2ox8m

3 ай бұрын

He had a long Prussian Soldiers history. It must have chased to be led by a Drug addle Corporal..... Politicians....The only thing lower is a Child Molester.....

Just about everything i see about the Nazis on these short films has added clips from the movie Downfall, its probably because it's the most accurate and authentic portrayal of Hitler ever, Bruno Kirby was magnificent in this portrayal, made more authentic by filming it in the full German language, even with subtitles it's my favorite ww2 movie ever done. So i like it's use in these explanatory shorts of Germany and Ww2, it always fits, and exemplifies the period well.

@parrot849

2 жыл бұрын

Outstanding video, thank you. I also wonder if trademark legalities concerning the use of “other” commercial cinematic portrayals of Hitler’s last bunker meetings is a factor in only featuring clips from the film Downfall in your video presentation. Just a thought….

@jeffreyval9665

2 жыл бұрын

Bruno Ganz played Hitler. Bruno Kirby is an American actor.

@TheOmahaTherapist

2 жыл бұрын

Alec Guiness did an excellent portrayal of Hitler in the movie Hitler: The Last 10 Days. Interestingly, he spoke in his normal voice without a German accent. Surprisingly, he made it work. I quickly stopped noticing his English accent.

@frankteunissen6118

2 жыл бұрын

@@TheOmahaTherapist I haven’t seen that. Must watch it. If an actor portraying Hitler wants to forego a (fake) German accent when speaking in English, he should adopt something like a Yorkshire accent to accurately convey, or translate, how Hitler’s coarse Austrian accent murdered the German language.

@TheOmahaTherapist

2 жыл бұрын

@@frankteunissen6118 Sean Bean play Hitler??. Interesting

Guderian had frequent run ins with Hitler. This was just the last and possibly the most intense one.

Awesome work here as always. Bravo Sir.

@waracademy128

2 жыл бұрын

Ty man

This meeting was depicted in the 1981 The Bunker tv film staring Anthony Hopkins.

It happened as you've told it. I'm happy to have evidence of evil being confronted with truth, in the face of dire repercussions. Creation, posterity, records EVERY happening. Evidence, for Eternal Justice. Guderian did well. Great story! Sent chills up my spine! The Light Protection, inherent in Truth, kept him alive. May God, Have Mercy on us all.

It seems that it was very fortunate for Guderian that he was given a six week leave considering the circumstances.

Of course Guderian's dismissal was not justified. However, I'm surprised that he was not arrested.

@antoinesilva1527

2 жыл бұрын

He was too esteemed and liked by the troops.

@alainkurniawan5364

2 жыл бұрын

Who's going to arrest him? The SS? They were getting hard pressed by Russians all over the city.

A narcissist with his back against the wall is a very dangerous man. Obviously.

Guderian wanted to be the tank commander who conquered Moscow.But he did not have the great numbers of tanks or indeed the powerful tanks that could succeed.But also he was faced by terrible winter conditions .And lastly he did not have the manforce who could complete the mission ,namely to take out Moscow.

@anandnairkollam

Жыл бұрын

Guderian had fought hitler a month or two before the eventual march on Moscow. If hitler had not waited, Moscow would have fallen. Stalin won because he learned to listen to Zhukov. Hitler lost because he thought he knew better than guderian.

@tomassmolen1260

Жыл бұрын

​@@anandnairkollam yeah so true, Guderian was ready to go fór Moscow and Hitler said nooo go for Kiev.Stupid Hitler

@marksteiner3810

Жыл бұрын

Guderian has trouble taking Tula, south of Moscow, and never really took it before trying to advance northward. Zhukov had enough defensive systems in place to stop Guderian's weakened forces before the December 6 counteroffensive. Same with General Hoepner NW of Moscow, and von Kluge's Fourth Army, unable to finish the job advancing from west of Moscow.

@tomassmolen1260

Жыл бұрын

@@marksteiner3810 You are not well informed. This was timeline when soviet were prepared defensively and it was 100% Hitler mistake not to advance Moscow in september when Soviet were on par for defeat

@marksteiner3810

Жыл бұрын

@@tomassmolen1260 Understood. I was describing a situation Guderian faced in late November-early December for the final push to Moscow. You should probably know that Army Group Center reached Smolensk around mid-July, 1941. Guderian and von Bock had insisted on completing the drive to Moscow at that time. Guderian himself appealed to Hitler to move forward from Smolensk. As usual, the High Command was rebuffed by Hitler, and the next push was directed toward Kiev and Leningrad. The disaster Guderian faced in late Novermber-early December was the main product of Hitler's bad choice in July.

Guderian: a real Soldaten.

excellent presentation sir

@waracademy128

2 жыл бұрын

Ty

Thank you for excellent video. Some minor details I noticed. I find pronunciation of Busse a bit odd. And he was much younger during ww2, he was not even 50.

Guderian could have commanded the whole dam thing successfully if he had of been permitted

Never heard of this episode before, Very Fascinating. Thanks for uploading.

Excellent

One of the Few Generals that was Not a Yes-Man!!!

Having that fight in March 1945 is like having a blame-game argument on the stern of Titanic after it’s already broken in half.

Here in France undergoing the blitzkrieg, the most famous German General and most respected (for his military skills and as not being a nazi fan) was Guderian!

Saved Guderian's life,he could write his memoirs and and we got Kreb's immortal "Poor Old Man".

For Guderian, his dismissal was a blessing!

Cornelius Ryan's book "The Last Battle" document that meeting....

Honestly, Hitler was softer than Stalin when treating his generals. Stalin would kill Guderian or sent him to Gulag if Guderian was a Soviet general.

@patricklarry6645

2 жыл бұрын

And yet Stalin listened to his generals and let them conduct the battle. Hitler always intervened and never trusted his generals.

@minhtri649

2 жыл бұрын

@@patricklarry6645 Stalin did not always listen to his generals. Do you remember the Great Purge? Do you remember the military disaster at the beginning which cost Soviet many lives and territories?

@patricklarry6645

2 жыл бұрын

@@minhtri649 in the beginning when the soviets we're getting destroyed he was imprisoning and killing his generals. Once the tide started turning in his favor he never intervened.

@patricklarry6645

2 жыл бұрын

@@minhtri649 so Hitler was always second guessing his generals and he got more obstinate as the war gone on. Stalin was smart enough to realize when to let his generals have complete control.

@Prince-jc6wc

2 жыл бұрын

Stalin didn't interrupt his generals..

Guderian was a fine general but his book on which this account is largely based is, like most autobiographies, entirely self serving.

@dpt6849

Жыл бұрын

Deutsches Volk. Hilft ihr selbst. So he did.😅

@thinkingagain5966

Жыл бұрын

How so?

@Jauhl1

Жыл бұрын

@@thinkingagain5966 A common theme of German general's are that they were great never supported any war crimes and all problems arouse from Hitler meddling and insanity. The post-war world was eager to accept that everything was madman Hitler's fault and accepted uncritically the generals self-serving version of things. In reality Hitler correctly overruled his generals on many occasions, as the war was lost he tried many desperate ploys which he then gets eviscerated for when they failed, yet all his generals could do was retreat and lose slower. Manstein in particular is famous for this. Hitler is always forbidding him from retreating and if Hitler hadn't, Manstein would apparently have won the war.

@thinkingagain5966

Жыл бұрын

@@Jauhl1 least obvious TIK follower. 🙄

@Jauhl1

Жыл бұрын

@@thinkingagain5966 It's far from only TIK who talks about it, but he certainly is able to present it very well. Did you know that the fall of France only happened because Hitler overruled his generals, who told him an invasion was impossible? When he in 6 weeks crushed France which the much more powerful Imperial German army couldn't do in 6 years with millions of deaths. Everyone thought him a military genius.

In 1943 they knew that the war was going to be lost. They went for total war to get a stalemate or the illusive prize of victory.

Great presentation..first class…this is the best of the KZread Historians that focus on the European theatre particularly from the German involvement and perspective. Great insight. David Irving to date still in my opinion was and is the person that best understood Adolf Hitler’s mindset. Irving’s book Hitler’s War and DVD captures Hitler like no other. The Movie DOWNFALL was the best Movie presentation ever made of Hitler’s and Germanys dying weeks before utter collapse and capitulation. Again bravo on your enthralling presentations.

Where does this source come from? Who was remembering this conversation?

Guderian suffered from a weak heart and high blood pressure which on one occasion only minutes after a “Führer conference” caused him to faint and fall to the floor.

the general guderian could not speak common sense to a madman

You have to love Gudarian, his disposition, all ways smiling!

If Guderian was Russian in the summer of 1941 and talked that way to Stalin, he wouldn't be alive ten minutes later.

Hitler always had to blame others and I get the impression that he would never admit to being wrong. He must have been impossible to reason with........

@AtlasAugustus

2 жыл бұрын

The generals wrote the history. They survived the war, not everything is as it seems

@Zhonguoria

2 жыл бұрын

People who blame others for their own faults are narcissists.

@Dana-ie2bh

2 жыл бұрын

@@Zhonguoria Putin's gas hikes.

@chrispoleson6118

2 жыл бұрын

Oh I don't know if that's true.. When I worked for him back in '45 he was very reasonable although he did eat several of my children.

@neilpemberton5523

2 жыл бұрын

@@AtlasAugustus Hitler was an amateur strategist who launched an impossible war against the Soviet behemoth.

What is the source for confrontation, Guderian's memoirs?

@vercot7000

21 күн бұрын

Nope. Also busse

I recall reading a book describing Guderians rants against Hitler - and Hitler's totally illogical military decisions - while he was still in command. I do not mean to make light of such a serious subject, but I could not stop laughing at Guderians total exasperation over the issue.

I really appreciate where they say that the pictures are illustrative. Everywhere else they just fit in pictures wherever without integrity and the credibility just drops in my mind.

@antonioacevedo5200

2 жыл бұрын

You're being unfair. The video did all it could. There is no footage of this meeting. It was top secret. What do you suggest the makers of this video show?

@krkv3405

2 жыл бұрын

@@antonioacevedo5200 I am agreeing with what they did here. I am critical of other videos, not this one, where they just put in pictures/stuff in that has no connection & don't state that. I am appreciating their honesty here.

@antonioacevedo5200

2 жыл бұрын

@@krkv3405 I do not think it possible to film a documentary describing all relevant historical facts with actual footage to accompany it. Guderian's verbal war with Hitler was not filmed. With respect, I think you are asking for too much and not realistic.

@krkv3405

2 жыл бұрын

@@antonioacevedo5200 either you are not a native english speaker or you don't understand what I am saying, In either event, this terminates our exchange

the film of the sinking? Which movie is he referring to, Der Untergang?

Guderian was a General first and foremost. Hitler did not qualify as an officer even- he was a Corporal in the Great War. So it was an uneven argument. Having the world as his chessboard, Hitler saw the signs of the end very clearly but did not find a scapegoat for his failures. However, Guderian paid the price on behalf of the General Staff.

@renex8434

2 жыл бұрын

As far as i know Hitler was just a private in WW I…

@henrygrey346

2 жыл бұрын

@@renex8434 well, I've seen undated historical pictures of him with Corporals' stripes and Iron Cross from WW1 or thereabouts.

@erikk4555

2 жыл бұрын

@@henrygrey346 You're right. He was a corporal. A particular Fieldmarshal didn't want to commit suicide for that "Bohemian Corporal". And he wasn't even a Bohemain Corporal.. but a Bavarian Corporal.

@henrygrey346

2 жыл бұрын

@@erikk4555 oh...he was Austrian, no?

@erikk4555

2 жыл бұрын

@@henrygrey346 Yes he was but he didn't fight for Austria-Hungary but for a Bavarian army unit.

I recommend Guderians book, "Panzer Leader". "How dare you talk to me this way"! "My whole life has been a struggle for Germany"! (a paraphrase of Hitler screaming at Guderian)

The quoted material in this video comes from Ryan's book, The Last Battle....worth reading!

This is how Putin talks to his advisors. Different culture, different time period, but a similar dictator in charge of a country.

Poor Rommel.....and his poor wife and children 😢

Great indeed

For all of you military history students, the book by the title of " Lost Victories. " The author is German Field Marshall Von Manstein is very insightful.

@dongately2817

2 жыл бұрын

You have to have the right perspective when reading Lost Victories. Remember, Manstein was alive and had his honor at stake. I don’t doubt Hitler’s meddling in military matters was a reason for the Wehrmacht’s defeat. I also believe Manstein, if given operational freedom, could have given the Germans a better, but still not great, chance at victory in the east. Being unable to answer back, Hitler makes a convenient scapegoat for any of the German military’s failings.

@michaelbee2165

2 жыл бұрын

@@dongately2817 Seriously? So are you saying these enormously successful and educated Prussian commanders all failed and Hitler was just a scapegoat for their shortcomings? Really? Laughable 😆

@dongately2817

2 жыл бұрын

@@michaelbee2165 I’m sure that if Manstein had run the war from beginning to end his book would have been titled Stunning Victories 🤣

@Sindimindi

2 жыл бұрын

Guderian was Hitlers favourite Tank- Commander. Tank Tactics were described in bis book: " Achtung Panzer!" He was the father of modern tank operations. Maybe the leader with the highest ability in this section of the Wehrmacht. But he was not the only Commander who had reject Hitlers senseless Orders - Erich von Manstein, the real genius of war Strategy in WWII contradicted Hitler in almost all matters of leading a war. Hitler was furious, but he could not replace the Mastermind of Strategy in his Army! Both, Manstein and Guderian survived.

The situation was almost comical. Hitler was insane by that point if he thought there was a snowball’s chance in hell that anything but surrender was an option.

@ahmedakhan1

11 ай бұрын

Hitler knew that if the allies effected a successful landing on the European mainland then it would only be a matter of time before Germany is defeated. However, once this happened Germany had no choice but to keep on fighting as by then the Allies had agreed (at Casablanc Conference in January 1943) that only unconditional surrender would be acceptable. Hitler as the leader had to keep the morale of the German people up by expressing faith in final victory! Of course, in human affairs, luck plays a great role so anything is always possible, so even a German victory against all odds was conceivable.

@ahmedakhan1

11 ай бұрын

Hitler knew that if the allies effected a successful landing on the European mainland then it would only be a matter of time before Germany is defeated. However, once this happened Germany had no choice but to keep on fighting as by then the Allies had agreed (at Casablanc Conference in January 1943) that only unconditional surrender would be acceptable. Hitler as the leader had to keep the morale of the German people up by expressing faith in final victory! Of course, in human affairs, luck plays a great role so anything is always possible, so even a German victory against all odds was conceivable.

This was portrayed in the American 1980's TV Mini-Series "War And Remembrance".

hitler screamed over ,not merely talked over , any opposition when answers from guderian implied the failure to win the war came from the top,,,hitler himself

Screw it... let`s look forward. Together.

This dialogue is taken from.."The last battle"..A fine book by "Cornelius Ryan"

Heinz Guderian was a great general that was given impossible tasks.

Kudos on adjusting the narration voice, excellent 👌

@waracademy128

2 жыл бұрын

Ty M b

Guderians comment on the 16 divisions trapped in the courland pocket pointed to a missed opportunity. At the same time, nearly 400,000 Germans were still in Norway, around 28 divisions. This huge resource of manpower, 46 divisions If redeployed 3 months earlier could have made A tremendous impact on the oder.

Excellent video. I'm not sure why all those General's didn't conspire to remove Hitler from commanding the German forces and then simply surrender.

I would think Guderian would feel fortunate that by being given the 6 weeks of leave, he was in a position to not have to command troops in further defeat, losses and the inevitable loss and end of the war.

Well, I think each of the generals were individually more qualified and fit soldiers than Hitler himself. Hence there should be no question about their competence, perhaps it's Hitler and his henchmen who were terribly impractical throughout those years.

Thank you for sharing this story. I am learning very much from your insightful journalism about the final days of Hitler and the Third Reich. I would have loved to see that in that time period. Saddens me that it was not in the great movie entitled:"Downfall."

@waracademy128

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks friend. I'm glad to be useful

@andremartin9571

2 жыл бұрын

he copies all his videos from a hispanic channel called "historias belicas que merecen ser contadas" lmao

Did you do Mannstein and Hitler?

In the introduction, the inset picture of Guderian is actually Hitler's lacky, Feild Marshal Keitel, not Guderian.

Guderian was a genius at being on all sides of a debate. When Hitler said Germany should pause to consolidate Kiev, Guderian barked at Hitler that Germany must move immediately toward Moscow. After Hitler agreed with Guderian, Guderian immediately reversed himself and said his tanks were exhausted and needed new engines before they could assault Moscow.

Sounds like Guderian was in a "I dont give a damn" moment. Shoot me, fire me..........whatever lol I am done.

This is "Operation Solstice" - problem is that the lead general was... Felix Steiner and it was 11th SS army vs. 1st Belorussian Front lead by Marshal G. Zhukov. "due to serious shortages, only three days' ammunition and fuel were immediately available." "the meeting rapidly degenerated into a heated and farcical argument."

Too little too late for the real soldiers, I think Rommel would also agree.

Wow

Guderian was a very good field commander and tactican. About 20 years ago I have read Panzer Leader in original German. I don't remember that much, but he always presents himself as a professional soldier having big disagreements with Hitler. Also I remember him analysing several situations in the war where they could have won. His main dispute with Hitler is the dynamic withdrawal, which was denied by Hitler. So there he views the war totally from a technical viewpoint, how the German and axis troops could have been saved without big losses to gather them and start a new offensive. This however is a pretty bad picture, because it lacks economical and resource contexts. (The Germans mainly lost the war of the eastern front because of their lack of resources and equipment / soldiers). All in all Guderian could have done more, he did not join the 1944 plotters, although it seems he was avare of the plot but was passive and awaited the outcome.

@jdee8407

Жыл бұрын

I read the book to a long time ago too. Guderain's main mistake was wasting time and so many men trying to take Moscow. thinking it would win them the war. Hilter was right they should have concentrated everything on going to capture the oil fields. Towards the end Guderian was right, but Hitller now was wrong. So it seems the wrong strategies were implemented at the wrong times.

Guderian's grandson taught at ft. Bragg into 1990s

According to a book I read a long time ago, during this discussion Hitler and Guderian almost got into a physical fight, Hitler actually showed his fist to Guderian as if he was going to punch Guderian. Afterwards Keitel asked Guderian how dared he talk to Hitler like that and Guderian answered “a leader must be able to deal woth confrotation from his subordinates”. As far as I know Guderian was the only one that had the guts to confront Hitler like this.

Anything to do with with the UK version of the truth is purely unbelievable.

The corporal wants to win all arguments

Does anyone know the soundtracks name?

@waracademy128

2 жыл бұрын

BSO Empire earth

@michaelkovacic2608

2 жыл бұрын

@@waracademy128 thanks man!

I've heard that Guderian in his anger called Hitler "a stinking little corporal".

This discussion has been has been dramatized in an episode of “War and Remembrance”.

This scene was immortalized in Anthony Hopkins film ( the bunka )

In fiction movies Hitler looks much more emotional than in documentary!

At least one German general had the balls to speak truth to power.

It's classical situation when one is surrounded by yes-men.

At this stage the war was completely lost. Surprised the Germans just held the Russians and let the Allies come into Germany.