Interesting idea, I wonder what else the seller has worked on over the years. Obviously quite a techically competent person

@RandomGaminginHD

11 ай бұрын

Yeah the custom bios installed is what baffles me.

@TheTryingDutchman

11 ай бұрын

@@RandomGaminginHD yeah thats what i thought as well, i didnt expect '8 gb' to show up in gpu-Z!

@czbrat

11 ай бұрын

@@RandomGaminginHD Custom BIOS might be required for the GPU to recognize that it has 8GB of VRAM

@ianvisser7899

11 ай бұрын

​@@RandomGaminginHD Ikr, in theory, it shouldnt be too difficult, more just a matter of getting into it to make the alterations... Cuz theoretically, he'd be able to just grab the memory management section of the code for a 1080 and copy that into the 980's drivers... Cuz that's the only real difference, memory management, the rest of it is interchangeable... He likely used a 1060 3gb and 6gb drivers for comparison to see where the actual changes are made and if there's anything else that needs changing, considering those are 2 identical cards, 1 with just a bit more vram... Which makes me wonder, how long is it gunna take before some chinese company starts buying in the 3gb cards in bulk and upgrading them?

@olnnn

11 ай бұрын

@@ianvisser7899 more likely they looked at the quadro M5000 bios since that one has an identical setup to the 980 other than clocks and 8gb of vram. 1080 would differ a lot more. The 3gb gtx 1060 differs a bit more than just vram from the 6 gb version, they also have some shading and compute units disabled so even with memory upgraded it wouldn't exactly match but might possible to make them work with 6gb still I guess. There is also a weird chinese 5 gb variant, and gddr5x variants of the 6gb one.

It'd be cool to see this and the standard 4gb card compared in games with the textures turned up.

@TBG021xDDDDgtwzshget

11 ай бұрын

overglocking with this example of gpu would be nice too :) :D

@shaneeslick

11 ай бұрын

Yeah running High or Ultra for better Visual Quality instead of Medium or Low is where more VRAM helps not increasing Avg fps, In the past people wanted games to look better but apparently more people have believed Marketing that "Frames Win Games" so nVIDIA can use AI to fake performance increases rather than actually increase Raster & VRAM 3060Ti-4060Ti, so these people now think that fps is the only thing that matters not Visual Quality which means people like me who care more about Visual Quality at 40-60fps in non competative games rather than Big fps numbers but looks crap get told they are wrong.

@colestowing8695

11 ай бұрын

I came down to say the same thing. Memory doent make a huge difference-until you run out. Then frametimes drop off a cliff. Would be neat to see things pushed to the point the 4g version starts struggling then try the 8g and see how it does

@Davix-tt9sh

11 ай бұрын

​@@shaneeslicknot to mention that when the card becomes older, going with high/ultra textures + medium settings will still look good while keeping an higher framerate. With more Vram the gpu becomes more futureproof and "resolution" proof

@nothin1456

11 ай бұрын

@@colestowing8695yes yes yes! I want to see 1440p and or higher resolution textures on this gpu!

Has a 8GB Card for 1080p and uses low or Medium Textures. Would have been fascinating with High and/or Ultra Textures and everything other option @ low or medium.

@josephdias5859

Ай бұрын

yeah it would have been much better comparison like the difference between the 480/580 4/8gb models is night and day with high textures

GTX 980 is roughly on par with an RX 580 in terms of GPU horsepower. That means it will most definitely benefit from 8GB of VRAM in some games at some resolutions. There were 4 and 8GB versions of the RX 480 and 580, and the 8GB versions have definitely aged better. I would like to have seen some 1440p tests so the extra VRAM would be utilized.

@Rabbit_AF

11 ай бұрын

There's 16 GB versions of the RX 580, but it's the sadly the 2048sp version.

@HanSolo__

11 ай бұрын

@@Rabbit_AF 4GB from Nvidia and up to 16 GB from AMD - some things seem never change.

@Rabbit_AF

11 ай бұрын

@@HanSolo__ To be fair, I must say that they are the invention of Chinese crypto miners. Still tempted to get one.

@HappyBeezerStudios

11 ай бұрын

One of the reasons why the GCN cards aged so much better than Kepler, they had more memory. But the 4 GB version of the GTX 680/770 also aged better than the 2 GB model. Or the 3 GB version of the GTX 580 over the 1.5 GB model. Makes me wonder how the GTX 1060 3GB and GTX 1050 Ti 4 GB compare nowadays.

@ironhead2008

11 ай бұрын

@@Rabbit_AF That's basically a 570. With some judicious tuning you can get practically the same performance out of it as a stock 580, so not a horrible trade.

they say if youre early RandomgaminginHD replies to your comment

@RandomGaminginHD

11 ай бұрын

Some say…

@FieryWings01

11 ай бұрын

Duh duh duuuuuun 🎉😂

@christophermboya

11 ай бұрын

​@@RandomGaminginHDhe views reality at 60fps and thinks DLSS is a cooking technique.... But all we know he's called the Stig

@Chicken_Soy

11 ай бұрын

@@RandomGaminginHDDoes it work on replies?

Imagine a world where people can easily add more VRAM to their GPU to make it last a little longer.

@wertywerrtyson5529

11 ай бұрын

The world is called the 1990s😅 I’ve seen some cards that had slots where you could pop in extra memory and go from like 2 to 4MB or 4 to 8MB.

@shaneeslick

11 ай бұрын

It could be done but then nVIDIA couldn't force their FanBois to upgrade every generation.

@Ghost-km6oj

11 ай бұрын

@@shaneeslick It's not possible with high frequency memory, which modern GPUs use.

@shaneeslick

11 ай бұрын

@@Ghost-km6oj anything is possible you are only limited by your imagination, it was not long ago that many other current technologies were thought to be impossible like Chiplets because transfer speeds would be hampered to much but here we are.

@Ghost-km6oj

11 ай бұрын

@@shaneeslick I really don't see it being possible due to signal integrity being vital for these vram chips.

You know i think there could be a salvage market out there for some of this taking old memory chips (with the same layout but higher capacity) and fixing cards (i mean it'd make more sense to fix a broken card than a working one) but just upgrading the modules and giving the card another chance at life. I really like the idea of upgrading the chips on a card. It's green, and nerdy i like it

@MidWitAndProud

11 ай бұрын

More of a passion project than a business idea, though. Equipment needed to do this reliably aren't cheap, and the profit margins won't be worth it, as the benchmarks showed that the overall performance increase will be negligible. But as a funny little hobby for yourself it's fine. Maybe there's some very niche way to utilize a relatively slow GPU with extra VRAM. Maybe for AI stuff it would be worth it, if you want to run massive models, but don't care about the speed that much, but even then just running the model with your CPU and regular RAM would probably be a better idea. Just pulling ideas out of my ass.

@R3TR0J4N

11 ай бұрын

Totally, as someone suggest on previous upload, also help reduce e-waste

@ZaneofAustin

11 ай бұрын

That depends on the market. We can only make so much silicone before we (and lets be honest we already have) ravaged the planet beyond a point of no return. This isn't a hard job, it does require special equipment, that already exists. But lets be honest this is probably how nvidia will make the 4050s*

@ZaneofAustin

11 ай бұрын

@@MidWitAndProud i'd buy a modded 2060 super over a 4060 ti, and probably save money doing it cause dlss isn't real rendering

@MidWitAndProud

11 ай бұрын

@@ZaneofAustin But how much extra would you pay for a 2060 super with extra VRAM? Pretty quickly the profit margins for whoever's doing them will evaporate, as people can just buy a one tier higher GPU and get better results for the same price.

Please do one more video with larger textures so we can see the memory in use. 😊

@drakomus7409

11 ай бұрын

low settings, max textures, 4k resolution(including any optional 4k texture packs some games have). that would be great

@HappyBeezerStudios

11 ай бұрын

Shadow of Morder used to be a big VRAM game. But the hq textures DLC might qualify as well. That is needlessly large.

this is really a very interesting card. i know that polaris cards can have extra memory soldered on, but you'd need to flash the bios to that of the 8gb variant. the 980 doesnt have an 8gb model, so you cant flash it with a bios of the 8gb variant, so i'm guessing the bios had to be modified manually. but i cant imagine how

@Insky_

11 ай бұрын

binary editor perhaps

@RandomGaminginHD

11 ай бұрын

Yeah I can’t find anything that matches the bios installed so it must be custom

@olnnn

11 ай бұрын

There is a quadro and tesla variant with the same die which probably helps.

@nickschmitz841

11 ай бұрын

It makes me wonder if you could do something similar with a 3070ti or 3080 ? Can you imagine one of those with 16GB of VRAM and, perhaps, a custom bios to allow that ? It would certainly help with RT performance and high quality texture packs. Perhaps a bios from one of the Quadro cards with a similar chipset, might help ?

@bret3925

11 ай бұрын

​@nickschmitz841 yes I did that I have the mem chips sku wrote down at home still. It is unstable tho flashes the screen black sometimes

That is just a wicked collectors item. I’d keep it on my shelf with a nice plaque next to it.

@RandomGaminginHD

11 ай бұрын

That’s exactly where it’s going 😁

A card like this would probably show more performance gains at 1440p vs 1080p I would think. Really interesting card though. Wonder what all is different besides the vram capacity to make it work.

@HornetTechTrail

11 ай бұрын

man you have to test we need part 2 about 1440p plzz

Great content as always my man, its always interesting to look at tech oddities like this!

In Brazil, these kinds of upgrades although not common, do appear from time to time. There are some hardware technicians out here that have order lists for these modifications. Can you imagine a RTX 4070Ti with 24gb VRAM instead of the puny (for it's price point and performance) 12gb? I'd love to see more from these kind of unique and even modified hardware.

@diablorojo3887

11 ай бұрын

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What I want to know is how did they modify the VBIOS? Because unless you used custom modified drivers that Graphics Card must be doing some crazy trickery to work with the Official Nvidia GPU Drivers.

@cieuxlux9617

11 ай бұрын

Maxwell is really open to BIOS modding, it's not anywhere near as locked down as current GPUs. I run a 980 in my spare system, but it's using a GTX 680 BIOS to unlock the power limit.

@GregoryShtevensh

11 ай бұрын

That was my thoughts! I want to know if this means this will become more common in the future if VBIOS can be created or modded

@b0ne91

11 ай бұрын

Maxwell BIOS mods aren't really locked out. But I don't think you need to. People have done this to 3070s and even a 2080 Ti with 44GB ov RAM

You're not on a console, you don't have to strictly stick to graphical presets. Medium preset with textures turned to high or ultra would have been useful to see. Better textures do look, well, better at the cost of almost to no performance loss whatsoever.

@yousefz7788

11 ай бұрын

It also would have taxed the VRAM more with higher textures. It's safe to say, given it's 1650 Super-like performance, 45+ fps for AAA games at the cost of higher textures is fair and now possible. I made the same trade offs when using my 390

@get-in-2-get-out774

11 ай бұрын

Hope he get to read your comment. I rly do. using low preset + low textures, or something along those lines, for this kind of test is just... ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

@jesusbarrera6916

11 ай бұрын

I think he stuck to those textures to compare it to a normal 980 he used to have.... But I agree, he also should've tried games with higher textures

@BenState

11 ай бұрын

Yep, 1440p wouldve meant that hes not testing CPU performance, and the GPU VRAM wouldve been tested.

@samarkand1585

11 ай бұрын

@@BenState I agree with the previous comments above, but yours make no sense, high textures or not, at no point in these tests the CPU was the limiting factor

Nice. I love little hacky projects like this. I have a reference model GTX 980 in a second PC that I’ve had for a long time. Good little card.

That Excel segment is just pure 😂 Keep doing your thing, like seriously

Lovin' the videos, bud. ♥️🔥

Honestly you should've turned all textures to ultra. As this would've shown the main highlight of this card and whether that advantage was worth it for the fps drop that comes with, if it even dropped much at all. Titanfall 2 is a good example since it uses 6Gb+ textures but still gives good fps

This is an interesting look at an interesting card; I always love seeing custom jobs like this. In this particular case, it doesn't seem like the 980 has the raw power to take advantage of the increased vram (at least in more recent games), which is kind of a shame. It's probably a great card for maxing out settings on games from several years back though.

Modern $400 gpu that came out a decade later: NO, IT'S TOO POWERFUL 40shittyTi

Nice find! Another rare bird to add to the flock.

good vid, ive always thought these types of mods could bring back old tech but to do this you need some coding skill and soldering experience because i know you need to hack the bios most likely to utilize all 8gb properly

@RandomGaminginHD

11 ай бұрын

Yeah I’d try it myself but my shaky hands and eyesight wouldn’t agree haha

@HappyBeezerStudios

11 ай бұрын

@@RandomGaminginHD can always try with something less tiny. Like through hole capacitors to revive a dead monitor. Or some stuff with the good old LM317 to put your fans at exactly 8.3v to reduce noise, stuff like that. Putting a resistor in an unregulated fan cable to, again, reduce noise.

Amazing find

Love your videos

This is actually a very interesting video to me given that I own a 980 ti and was wondering if I'd be vram limited on future games

"Hello everyone and welcome 🤗" that always brightens my day!! Keep up the great videos

mmmm that's the content i love to see at RandomGaminginHD. I'm never disappointed.

Thats pretty cool, i hope someday to add swapping bga components to my list of skills

There was a company at Computex this year selling custom RTX 3070 16GB. I can't remember the name of the company though.

@shaneeslick

11 ай бұрын

G'day JeffWaynee, KZreadr Paulo Gomes has a video of an RTX3070 he modded

This is very interesting indeed. So many things it makes me wonder. I'd love to see a retest it with higher settings for games to use more vram, and maybe run it through mem tests to see if its all available to utilize with the bios/firmware on it. I DID see TLOU using 5gb.. Second, you raised this point up yourself. I wonder how it compares to a 980ti and if the better raw computational power of that card still sets it apart or if theyre similar and the vram addition closes the gap some. I wonder if theres games that the 8gb card is better in due to textures. Nice find.

@sgdude1337

9 ай бұрын

That would be interesting but I think the 980 Ti is so much more powerful than the 980 that I doubt the vram closes the gap. The Ti also has 6GB of vram so the difference in capacity isn't enormous between it and a 8GB 980. It would also be interesting to see a comparison of the 780 Ti vs the Titan Black in 2023. I would imagine that the gains would be huge even though they were miniscule 10 years ago.

Bad power at the previous house I was at killed my msi gtx 980 less than a month ago. If I go back to older videos of yours, I would find myself commenting and speaking about how happy I was with my 980! RIP. There's a shop now in the capital city but that's relatively far from me. I plan to take it there to get repaired probably, it was a true legend. Friend of mine sold it to me for sixty bucks and it was a good deal one year ago for me. Good video by the way!

@RandomGaminginHD

11 ай бұрын

What a great deal. Sorry to hear about your card! Hopefully you can get it fixed!

I had a MSI Laptop with a 4Gb 780m GTX MXM format and I upgraded the graphic card to a 980m GTX 8Gb , these were not rare in MXM format from what i saw on eBay

This is very interesting. I always appreciate your videos. I do think you could have done something a little different to compare and control more for the 8 gb variable. Textures and or resolutions could have been cranked to ultra and or 1440p. Also using something like msi afterburner to adjust the clocks of both cards to be as close to equal as possible. And possibly testing the memory over clocking differences between the 2 cards. Image comparisons would be useful too. I know that in "the last of us" in particular, you can set graphics settings to much higher than what the system has vram to handle. The card will play the game smoothly, but it is constantly loading in textures and you can clearly watch textures pop in and out of the scene as you walk around. Something like this to purposefully stress the vram and memory bus would be very interesting.

I've had done the same with my rtx 3080 10gb card. To put 2gb chips instead of the 1gb chips, so to have 20gb in total. Probably it wouldn't do much difference in most games, but it could help in games like the last of us.

@ldjg-wb4mt

11 ай бұрын

Actually, i think that would be quite a good idea, i dumped my 3080 when i saw the way the wind was blowing regarding ram usage, the 3080 certianly has the power to carry on for a few years, at high settings.

@Unizuka

5 ай бұрын

can you make a video guide on how to do that, I am not super bad with the solder, but I still reluctant to tinker with my 2080 ti 11gb, but I saw lots of 22gb 2080ti cards on aliexpress.

It probably has 8gb of vram to keep up with the size of the Ethereum DAG size a couple of years back. The file was loaded into vram and passed the 4gb mark, making mining cards with less usless for eth

@drakomus7409

11 ай бұрын

200IQ

i remember a modder in yt comments once said that you first need to locate the mem adress bus and mem and bus width adress, after that just modify resistors along the size of vram increase or decrease

@RandomGaminginHD

11 ай бұрын

Oh awesome

Imagine if video cards were made with stick ram- like normal system ram sticks on a normal motherboard (not the soldered on stuff). That would allow for easy replacement is you have bad ram- and you could upgrade your ram later if needed. I realize that's a pipe dream and I am sure the GDDR ram needs a much better/closer connection than a slot would allow to get the speeds needed, and the card makers would not add cost to make the cards more viable longer versus you needing to just buy another card.

@HappyBeezerStudios

11 ай бұрын

Bandwith will be a limitation. normal DDR RAM runs on 64 bit per channel. The big difference is that GDDR4+ runs QDR, so twice the bandwith than DDR RAM. And graphics cards run on more than two channels. As example: to get the 224 GB/s of the GTX 980 you would need DDR-14000 in dual channel, or DDR5-6000 in 5-channel. Now try to figure out how to get all those modules on a card. Oh, and for the 4090 it's either DDR-6300 or DDR5-6000 in 20-channel. Yes, 20 RAM slots on a graphics card. Or in other words, just to meed the bandwith we'd need around 3-20 slots on a card.

@oxfordsparky

11 ай бұрын

This was a thing 20 years ago, they can’t do it now because the increase to latency and reduction in speed would have a big effect on the performance.

back when i had my 980ti in my pc i thought i had about limitless vram on my card, like just way overkill. look at the technology now^^ right now rocking a 16gb 6900xt and absolutely happy with it =)

Will be good to see how these older cards hold up against the crop of new games coming in the autumn. 1060 vs Forza Motorsport 8 anyone?

similarly, there is an example of someone creating a 16gb 3070. Needless to say, it slaps. Also would be neat to revisit with some 1440p+ gameplay as my similar era 390 really did keep up at 2560x1080 ultrawide with games regularly pulling 5-6gb. As higher textures and upscaling tech like Spiderman Remastered IGTI really do chew through VRAM this seems like a genuinely powerful card as raw performance is traded with upscaling given it's rise in implementation.

@kiri101

11 ай бұрын

I'm still using an 8GB R9 390 with Amernime drivers and it's still dependable at 1440p, 5-6GB VRAM usage is common, on rare occasion it gets maxed

@HappyBeezerStudios

11 ай бұрын

Nice to see that custom drivers are still a thing. Been a long time since the Omega drivers.

Very interesting!!

Did the seller provide any documentation regarding this mod? I plan on doing the same thing to the 980 I have laying here and it would be extremely helpful to have further information(vBios modification, resistors/jumpers on the PCB etc.)

I wish you tested higher texture quality settings with the 8gb GTX 980 and then compared the performance results to the 4gb version as well. I doubted that there would be any difference when you're not VRAM limited.

@HappyBeezerStudios

11 ай бұрын

Oh right, not just a run to see if there is a difference, but also go through each texture preset to see at which point a difference will show up, if at all.

@pengu6335

11 ай бұрын

@@HappyBeezerStudios Yeah. I love this channel, don't get me wrong. I just don't really see why he didn't do that. Otherwise, what really would be the point in the test if you're not going to try higher quality textures or higher resolutions as well.

@shaneeslick

11 ай бұрын

@@pengu6335 Yeah I love the randomness of Steve's content & usually he is very thorough but like you I think he missed the point in this one, it's not about more fps it is about better Visual Quality, being able to used Higher Texture & Detail settings.

@pengu6335

11 ай бұрын

@@shaneeslick Hopefully he makes a follow up video & does this. There was a similar test done awhile ago with an RTX 3070. I'm sure you might've seen the videos here on KZread. The modified 3070 with 16gb of VRAM installed resulted in alot less hitching with higher quality textures. I'm pretty sure it closed the gap between it and the RTX 2080ti in 4k, since it felt a little short of the 2080ti at 4k because of the lower VRAM.

@shaneeslick

11 ай бұрын

@@pengu6335 Yeah I saw that with the 3070 & Hub Steve did one for the 4060Ti 16GB yesterday, hopefully Random Steve will do one here for the 980 too

It's easy to replace GPU Vrams if you have the skills and the right equipement to do it. As a GPU / console repair tech I've done it so many times...

It's pretty impressive the kind of performance this thing still puts out

Very cool!

Nvidia cards can swap memory types/sizes/straps with resistors on the card. Not super well documented for every board type but a lot of them have documentation on forums. Also 8gb GTX 980s did exist. It might just be using a straight bios from one of those ES cards. They did exist despite what Nvidia is telling you lol. Seen them on forums and tested for years. Pretty sure TPU even has bios rips of them.

@andreagarau2918

7 ай бұрын

Hi man, there is a way that we cant talk by some internet chat, perhaps you can give me some more information about those memory straps and resistors change. I read something similar and would be cool to have some more information even to find other information.

That's so cool, imagine being able to slap some extra vram on your card when needed. 🚀

@RandomGaminginHD

11 ай бұрын

That would be cool!

Steve push the textures to the max next time in all games. It has a 0 performance impact and the point was to see the card's performance, crank up the settings too, medium doesn't demonstrate much of anything. All the best and definitely an interesting find!

Changing out the memory packages themselves isn't too difficult, if you've had some experience with that kind of thing. Not to say it's easy, but if you have the right equipment and a general idea of what you're doing, it isn't a super difficult job. What's really interesting is fudging the BIOS to get the expanded memory to work. In the past I've made custom BIOS files for motherboards to update various modules using parts from a newer model motherboard BIOS. I have to imagine it's done in a somewhat similar way. Very neat though.

Those Founders Edition coolers look so cool. 😅

Only upgraded from my GTX980 last year. Had it heavily OC'd and vBios modded. Outperformed the 1060 GB 6GB in raw performance but not when it came to VRAM. It was an Evga SC too, I miss her.

That's really neat. It's really hard to desolder and resolder BGA packages so this person really put some risky effort in. Someone tried this with the 3070, doubling the RAM to 16 GB, but it had stability issues unfortunately. It's interesting to see that the 980 was completely stable with its doubled VRAM.

Nice. A 12gb 980ti would be interesting.

@metalheaddw05

11 ай бұрын

That would be a Titan X Maxwell.

@shaneeslick

11 ай бұрын

or Quadro M6000

This card is still a surprise to me😮

BGA soldering gear for home use has gotten so cheap the last few year I'm seeing more and more of this type of thing being done, even seen old MBP's have CPU upgrades or swapped out graphics, im so happy this is happening as we get amazing stuff like this as the 980 & 980ti are still fantastic cards for 1080p budget gamers even in modern titles.

I wish I could do this for my R9 Nano so it could actually be useful as a SFF GPU, but uuuh... there are a few key _differences_ with HBM that make that impossible lmao.

Your Excel skills will increase once you use it more. Like having a big sheet with all your benchmark results done. And putting all the stuff in a nice graph. I must admit I've done that with some of your previous results just to get those graphics. The difference is about a plus of 7.7% in the 0.1% lows. The strongest in TloU, but in Hogwarts the 0.1% lows are about 11.4% worse.

Hello there. Can I ask you what is the support on that MSI Lighting (980 Ti maybe?) that is on the background? I'm personaly a graphics cards collector, and I'm looking for that kind of support (like a angular one). Did you kane it yourself, or bought it somwhere? Thanks in advance. Wish you a great week.

I have respect for these type of mad engineers.

@RandomGaminginHD

11 ай бұрын

Same haha

I would have expected that you would use ultra textures for all game to emphasis the gain. Cool mod for sure!

Maybe this lends credence to the idea that, by the time certain cards' VRAM becomes a limitation, their GPU core will probably be out of date anyway. Or stated differently, some cards aren't powerful enough to make consistent use of additional VRAM. I remember this idea being thrown around years ago. Of course, it still depends on which game you play and what settings you use.

@MLWJ1993

11 ай бұрын

In the rare instance where it's just heaps of assets & not a lot of shaders being used it might help. In most instances those conditions won't apply & the VRAM would be wasted. This might however be more useful for those doing 3D renders that won't necessarily need high real time framerates, but do benefit from more memory.

I remember another fella did similar i'm wantin to say with a 1070, powerful enough to need a little more vram on some games and especially with higher textures/settings that use vram and not actual gpu power.

Nice passion project. Has me wondering if you slapped liquid cooling on it and OC'ed it if it would keep up with 1000 series.

Aw man you should totally upload the VBIOS in case anyone else wants to do this themselves with new old stock memory chips

IF the card works properly with the vram edit then the real difference is that it can handle more things loaded and keep better detailed textures loaded, the slightly higher frames is a side benefit as well as them being more stable, but like i said the increase in vram is mostly going to keep textures loaded so they wont blur or downscale near you or when you're looking at them. there are people that add vram to different cards, this is a thing people have done for many years now, i've seen cards that people doubled the vram to 16GB from 8GB and even stupid ones with 24GB that should be 12GB or 8GB, they said it took a bit of work to do it and it has issues but it mostly works

Praise the King! ;-)

It makes sense that this would work. The GTX Titan (Maxwell) has 12GB of VRAM on a 384-bit bus. Maxwell GPUs don't enforce BIOS signatures either so it's possible to mod the BIOS to add support for a new memory chip.

Greetings from Texas! ⭐️

@RandomGaminginHD

11 ай бұрын

Hi!

Textures turned up, maybe with a 30fps target would show a greater difference, I think. Would be nice to see

I still use my GTX980. Wanted to change the past year but yeah, you know. Got the entire rig upgraded, waiting on a good GPU option to come up.

That moment when Cyberpunk is one of the best optimized games out of the newer singleplayer lot. I get that you had the excel spreadsheed for the previous 4GB model test, but, it would have been nice to see that VRAM used at 1440p instead of 1080p. :D

It would be VERY interesting to use this card as primary in SLI with a 4gb 2nd card to see how performance scales, even sli beeing totally dead now, a lot of times vram was the botleneck... (in sli only vram on the first card is used) we have to remember that all drivers are prepared for a 4gb card and no 8gb card of course.

I would **** for one of these cards. Absolutely amazing

I don't think the driver allows it to use all of the VRAM or maybe the GPU itself, maybe is like a buffer to ensure you don't get a bluescreen when it runs out of VRAM (wich tries to keep under 4 GB)

Like that iceberg tech guy

This was indeed interesting, I'm not really sure why you tested some games on medium or low, I would've liked a bit more watching custom settings: For example you could use the medium preset but use the ultra quality textures for everything, the performance shouldn't take a big hit from textures but the quality just be very different. Other than that, nice video, it's interesting to see this 8GB model.

Would have liked to see RE4 with the texture size turned up!

Fascinating, how exactly does that work? Changing out memory chips with higher capacity ones with the same pin-layout is easy enough with the right equipment, although I imagine fiddly. But was the card's software modded to allow for this, or does it automatically detect the higher capacity?

Really interesting maybe you should make more videos with vram restrictions.

i've always though about getting a dead card and taking the memory and bus chips it has and use it on a working model and adding in the missing ram and bus chips on the working model, never got around to it as i don't upgrade often and the newer gpu clocks are much higher.

That thing should be a beast. I still run a 980Ti today it still smashes all new titles.

My trusty Zotac PowerAmp! GTX 980 has been my trusty companion since 2015ish until 2022.. sadly early on 2023 it showed its age, keep getting crashed and gray screen error. So had to retire it and bought PowerColor Red Devil Edition RX 6700 XT :)

I'm curious how well this 8GB custom card would handle Memory and GPU OC, and how the performance would stack up to its stock counterparts.

I once met a guy who worked at Nvidia at the time and he had a GeForce 460 with 14GBs or Vram. I think it was for some specific autoCAD type thing.

So kinda like the Quadro M5000 and Tesla M60 which use the same GM204 die and configuration of it as the 980 with 8gb ram acc to Techpowerup database, though this one is probably a bit faster since the quadro has lower clocks and probably ECC ram. TPUalso lists mobile variants of the GM204 with 8gb of ram which may or may not exist.

I'm surprised how low the listed power draw is, I'd have thought a former flagship with extra ram would consume closer to 300w then 130w.

gracias for the content, there is a 16gb rx580 on ali express, would like to see a comparison with 4gb and 8gb rx 580, peace

Those test results were with the same graphics settings?? I would have thought more VRAM would have allowed you to turn the settings up, even if possibly not that much. I wonder what bios guy used for this??

you should test these on 1440p to actually see the difference cause at those settings it seemed like the games did not need more than 4gb, maybe up to 5gb

That excel bit was really painful.

Damn nice

My guess is, the seller has used the 1070 VRAM modules. Should be possible to put in the 980, since both use 8 modules (and same physical size chips). as well as a BIOS mod, but after that, it should be good to go. An advantage, is the 8GB used on the 1070 should be able to clock higher (8Gbps on the stock 1070 vs 7Gbps on the stock 980), a 980 @1500 MHz core with the 1070 memory clock, should be quite close in performance to the 1070. Since the 980 was a direct successor to the 680/770 (not the 780/780 Ti), that model was never meant to have 8 GB option. Back in late 2014, the 4 GB VRAM was more than plenty. And in 2015, the real successor to the 780/780Ti was the 980 Ti ..with 6GB VRAM, same as some rare 780 and Titan(Kepler) models had. Making the 980 with 8GB would have been dumb, and they probably would have had to build the 980 Ti with 6 and 12GB (and in that case, what was the point of the Titan X?)

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Ah very interesting, thanks :)

Its so that most games safe vram with taking out minor details, so you wouldnt really see that much of a difference but there is one. I saw a video by a german KZreadr who explained this.

Odd that the step up card had nearly the same ram as the 970 outside the 3.5gb controversy

Random has us watching a spreadsheet 😂 But you could read the phonebook and I'd be here 😂

Makes me think what a 12GB 980ti would perform like, if possible. Maybe modular RAM on GPUs should be a thing (Fixed RAM Conspiracy) ??? Very interesting video

Shoulda pushed the graphics settings higher too

If someone offered a service upgrading the memory on soldered laptops or gpu’s I would be very interested especially considering how difficult it is to replace soldered memory chips.