So to sum up, Boeing - a company that makes airplanes that carry millions of people through the air every year - is engaging in "extreme cost-cutting," ignoring the advice of long-term professionals who assemble the airplanes, cuts quality and safety inspections, and is trying to pay the people who build these aircraft the absolute bare minimum possible by law. Usually I don't pay much attention to the "equipment" part of booking a flight. Now, I'll pay a little more if it will keep me off a Boeing product.

@Dr.Mzungu

6 күн бұрын

Share holder greed, once again.

@bn9983

6 күн бұрын

100% flying Airbus

@Johnrl21

6 күн бұрын

@@Dr.MzunguBut who are the shareholders? Anyone in America with a 401k or IRA. Fun times eh?

@maowing371

6 күн бұрын

I trust Embraer 100% and Airbus too but I've stopped flying with airlines who use Boaing products

@minhpham-yh9qn

6 күн бұрын

Beans counters

$33,000,000 for a CEO who puts profits over safety. That guy needs to walk away without any golden parachute. He lied through his teeth at the Senate Subcommittee Hearing. His apology to the families of the people he killed is insincere. Greedy little ...

@Novastar.SaberCombat

5 күн бұрын

The rich can do whatever they wish. No exceptions. Wealth is health, might is right. 💪😎✌️ #copium

@davidpage3893

5 күн бұрын

He also had knowledge of or ordered the “SUICIDE” of the 2 whistle blowers that exposed the incompetence of upper management.

@ginaanddenes9059

5 күн бұрын

Handcuffs and a disposable key sound appropriate.

@savage.4.24

5 күн бұрын

Handcuffs and a concrete brick sound like his appropriate swim attire.

@barryf5479

5 күн бұрын

He's quitting at the end of the year. Full benefits and a golden parachute of course for "doing such a great job".

What rubbed me the wrong way when viewing the video is - Dave Calhoun walks away with a $24 million payout - worth up to $45 million more - while workers have had their traditional pension benefits gutted and people flying on Boeing planes have died all in the name of boosting stock prices.

@truhhhhhhhokIII3

7 күн бұрын

Correct. This happens in every industry too. PAC money. Look into it 🤙

@gothnate

7 күн бұрын

Happened to Tesla, too. They laid off 15,000 people and Musk was given a $56 billion pay compensation.

@agoniaXdunya

7 күн бұрын

What are YOU going to do about it? Have you shared this story with everyone that will listen?

@thetabletopskirmisher

7 күн бұрын

Only in America?

@markchicwak370

6 күн бұрын

That’s how Capitalism works! Time after time the Workers continually get ripped off! Either by layoffs rip off or plant closures!

Fraud should amount to CRIMINAL CHARGES, not a SLAP ON THE WRIST, which is often then considered to be "the cost of doing business".

@theboyisnotright6312

6 күн бұрын

In the military if what you did caused a plane crash, you will likely be court marahes

@mrthingy9072

6 күн бұрын

@@theboyisnotright6312 "Courts-martial". It depends on the situation, was it an easily preventable error? Was it an error in the TI and you brought it up to your supervisor? If the supervisor ignored it, did you escalate it? Airmen mechanics are not held responsible for the actions of their leadership for the most part, if it was an issue and properly identified and no one took appropriate action, leadership would be smoked in a courts-martial. It's why I always encouraged my guys and gals to come to me with an issue and they knew it would be handled because I had no problems going around my boss (if he refused to do something, most of the time they handled stuff above my paygrade) and going straight to the commander with safety and environmental issues. And if that didn't work, well my commander had a boss too. All the way up to the IG. But I told my guys and gals to come to me, that way they would be covered. The only time one of my airmen had to go stand in front of the commander, I went with him and stood with him in front of our commander. It was a minor infraction and he got off light but all my people always knew I would be right there with them, regardless of the outcome.

@alphachicken9596

6 күн бұрын

​@theboyisnotright6312 but you would probably be found not guilty, since the military craft was probably Boeing :D

@idekav.

6 күн бұрын

So long as the citizen keeps commenting, and not taking action against the elite…. Nothing changes

@rrai1999

3 күн бұрын

@@Novastar.SaberCombat Do you just spam something about rich and poor under every comment with the hash tag copium? I'm gonna mass report all of them

They also shot the whistleblower! Do not forget that!

@ogre706

6 күн бұрын

This.

@dannydaw59

6 күн бұрын

I thought that was true but there's a lot of evidence that supports that the guy committed suicide. I know it's really suspicious that he would kill himself at that time, but he already gave testimony. Why would Boeing hire a hit man to kill the guy after the damage was done?

@SkyBear0509

6 күн бұрын

Airbus did it. It was obvious/ follow the money

@mrthingy9072

6 күн бұрын

TWO whistleblowers have died while the claims were under investigation. Mysterious, isn't it? By the way, I have no plans on offing myself, just saying...

@MariaRodriguez-dx6sm

6 күн бұрын

And probably poisoned the other one

“This country has socialism for the rich, rugged individualism for the poor." -Martin Luther King, Jr. Still as true as ever today.

@RKZX2

7 күн бұрын

The guy was a visionary. WAY ahead of his time.

@raymundogonzalez6450

7 күн бұрын

That is 1 of the consequence$ and even worse thing coming😂

@antoniohart3724

7 күн бұрын

We're no longer the customers. We're the product. The shareholders are the customers, they're always right and the corporations will do anything to please them immediately.

@emptyfish8992

7 күн бұрын

Preach

@CRneu

7 күн бұрын

The worst part is we also brainwash those poor people into believing they'll one day be rich, which leads to those poor people helping the rich at the detriment of themselves. "One Day Millionaires" describes a lot of poor americans. They truely believe they'll be rich one day.

Aircraft manufacturers who's priorities are not safety, quality, and improvement are liabilities to everyone no matter whether they fly or not

@daponagegoogenburg807

6 күн бұрын

Yeah, a company like Boeing should prioritize safety over anything else, the fact rhat every company just makes their product worse to make more profit is the worst. Also, love your pfp

@virginiamoss7045

6 күн бұрын

They used to say, " If it's not Boeing, I'm not going." Now they say, "If it's Boeing, I'm not going." There's no quality to be found anywhere in anything from aircraft to toilet paper, at least in the US. Quality is not profitable enough.

@JamesHoss-hr1jq

6 күн бұрын

Whose

@jambott5520

6 күн бұрын

​@@daponagegoogenburg807 That is capitalism. Over everything, a company has one job. Make money. Everything else is secondary.

@BriannaLearning

6 күн бұрын

That's every company nowadays, quality goes down and prices goes up. Line has to go up even if the customers suffers for it and the only people that benefit from it are less than 200

Not a single good thing has ever come from putting businesspeople in charge of aerospace firms.

@youtubeuniversity3638

7 күн бұрын

Really need to specify "aerospace"?

@mellinghedd267

7 күн бұрын

@@youtubeuniversity3638 You're right, let me rephrase. "Not once has putting businesspeople in charge of aerospace firms caused anything other than catastrophic failure and loss of life."

@TheRusschannel

7 күн бұрын

Elon Musk????

@mmarage1

7 күн бұрын

​@@TheRusschannelThe dude's a conman.

@irri4662

7 күн бұрын

​@TheRusschannel he's started several business. He may not be a business major. But he's no fool.

My brother was an aviation mechanic/pilot until he retired. He worked for several companies both large and small. It was always the same hurry-up-cut-corners pressures. He lost two jobs for refusing to sign off on his work that was not complete and safe. Most of his co-workers just gave in to preserve their jobs. No matter how fast they worked, no one could do a good job enough to please the bean counters. That includes the past 6 decades. This is nothing new; it's just gotten so much worse.

@dianaroach3093

6 күн бұрын

My ex-husband would not sign off on someone's else work. He said he wasn't going to jail if there was an accident.

@Novastar.SaberCombat

5 күн бұрын

In the corporate world, it's very simple: do as you're told. If you don't, the wealthy and powerful CEOs will trash yer dumb arse and find someone else who *will* bow, kneel, and kiss the ring as is expected. 💪😎✌️ "If you ain't rich, then you ain't sheet." --J.P.

@je862

5 күн бұрын

@@Novastar.SaberCombat Your statement is true. However, what these idiots don't realize is that sacrificing quality for profit never works, long term. What they need to realize is that manufacturing a quality product, in their case an airplane, with a solid preventive maintenance program, will bring them far more profits. I've been in manufacturing since the 1980's and have worked for a few smaller shops and only two bigger companies and those two companies had the same sh*tty format that boing now has.

@HanJanssen-pg9jh

2 күн бұрын

US is the ONLY country IN THE WORLD with this. In my country join an union, or "take away your Pension" and get fired because of that? Both are ILLEGAL in my country, HUGE fine & Jail. US has to learn a shitload about NORMAL workbenefits that many countries have. Don't let me start about our cheaper and better Healthcare.

@virginiamoss7045

2 күн бұрын

@@HanJanssen-pg9jh Don't know what country you are in, but it's not a lack of learning about what citizens need. First, the US is very multi-cultural with many differing religions, not to mention that it is huge. Second, because of that and the independent and survival nature of the kind of people who first invaded the indigenous peoples in America, our economic system is highly competitive, dog-eat-dog, really. It's all about who can get the most of anything and everything and our politicians get a lot by being politicians, getting bribed to do the bidding of all the wealthy people. Nobody cares about others, only how to get ahead of others not only to survive, but to thrive above all others. We are not all on the same page. We really are not united because we have no notion of being vulnerable due to our size and military might so there's not sense of needing each other. We are protected by oceans and military might. Foolishly, most citizens don't even value our allies overseas; why should we care about some European country being attacked by Russia? That's their problem so why should our tax money go to them? Isolationism is 100% a mistake in the twenty-first century; they are the ones needing to learn the big picture. Big corporations with all the power have learned that they can pay workers way less than a living wage because those workers making so little can get government support (welfare) to keep from starving. Those businesses are getting indirect government subsidies to reduce their payroll costs so they can make more profit which is favorably taxed or not at all, all due to bribing politicians. The core problem is the corruption of politicians which happens once politicians get into office and get changed from caring about their constituents to using them for personal gain. This is what you need to learn about the United States of America (in my opinion).

"The purpose of a company is to create shareholder value" This is the creed of the executive class.

@kevinkelly1586

6 күн бұрын

Not just CREED, but GREED!

@m.j.carlson8246

6 күн бұрын

No, the employees should own the company, not a bunch of wealthy trust fund babies

@TheRealWindlePoons

6 күн бұрын

Other companies put a high priority on secure jobs to keep their highly-trained workforce.

@tissuepaper9962

6 күн бұрын

​@@m.j.carlson8246define the word "shareholder". The employees in an employee-owned company are shareholders, too, despite not being "trust fund babies".

@wavejumper3

6 күн бұрын

Yea, I'm sure other companies also follow regulations, probably give free ponies to the staff, too.

It's a rotten corporate culture and you'll never be able to change that.

@chamberlain85

7 күн бұрын

Nope, not with this government and court structure. We need more progressives in the ranks.

@engineered-mind

6 күн бұрын

Facts

@michaelbaker8284

6 күн бұрын

Its just like the USSR. People with MBAs are the new communist party members.

@idekav.

6 күн бұрын

There’s close to 9 billion of you and about 1 million corporates fucks around America… you do the math on that and tell me again how sitting on your couch just commenting boo hoo is going to change anything.

@Novastar.SaberCombat

5 күн бұрын

Correct. If you ain't rich, then you ain't NOTHIN'. Health is wealth, might is right. No exceptions.

First shock I’ve learned from corporate greed, a central air unit that had to be replaced after 4 years! Then a fridge that only lasted half as long as the last one, now compromising safety over 💵. Nothing surprises me anymore.

I used to be proud of Boeing and admired their 747s and 777s. So sad to see a once great company succumb to corporate greed.

@Pfsif

5 күн бұрын

USA, USA, USA. YEAH MERICA!

@HanJanssen-pg9jh

2 күн бұрын

But, but, but Profit is the MOST important EVER, "rid of Pension" ILLEGAL in my country => Jail.

When the engineers, tech folks, and quality control are all telling you there's a problem or leaving, but execs aren't listening, you need major change.

Either you have an airplane or you have a deathtrap. Cutting corners is not how you get an airplane and those corners were drawn up because someone somewhere died when airplanes were just being refined as a form of transportation.

@noseboop4354

6 күн бұрын

Welcome to late stage capitalism. The FAA can write reports and tsk-tsk all they want, nothing is going to change until they dish out significant fines or jail time.

@zaram131

6 күн бұрын

Exactly!

@christopheroliver148

6 күн бұрын

Sadly, all rules of aviation are written in blood. The management at Boeing seems to want more _ink._

@dont.ripfuller6587

3 күн бұрын

I'd be fine if all aircraft globally were grounded permanently except medivac vessels. None of it is needed for a quality life on Earth.

@38911bytefree

3 күн бұрын

That right. The perfection of the industry was written with blood. Allow planes to fly without bolts or unknonw failures is criminal and disrepectful of that victims that died so they could learn somrthing. But Boeing doesnt care. Probably they think they are MCI and they are building coaches.

As an Air Force veteran. Look you can't do a half assed job. Every failure is an aircraft failure. Means everyone dies

@Crowfist

3 күн бұрын

This is exactly why I am so interested in aviation. Its seemingly one of the last bastions of "Follow procedure or you die" I guess not anymore. This is absolutely sad for our country.

When they said people aren’t staying around and getting experience I immediately thought this is a company that needs to offer a pension. No surprise that they got rid of it. Probably some short sighted exec with an MBA

@diytwoincollege7079

6 күн бұрын

No doubt, A highly overpaid bean counter who probably has moved on to the next company by now.

@Donkor640

6 күн бұрын

It’s scary to think about high turnover in jobs that are this technical. Expertise and experience are the only way to run an assembly line safely and efficiently. I was an aircraft mechanic for 25 years in the military and it didn’t take much research to learn that working at Boeing or most other aerospace companies as a mechanic would be a last resort. After seeing this I’d rather drive a school bus full of unruly kids everyday than to be a part of a system that puts profit over lives.

Remember how we were all taught that unions were the enemy?

@InTruthNLove

7 күн бұрын

Yes, a form of programming that the Western culture specializes in.

@drewthompson7457

6 күн бұрын

At my last job, I'm retired, I got raises every year, along with good merit increases. Then we got a union. In the last 2 contracts, I got zero each time, while paying to the union. If there is good management, I don't believe a union is necessary. However, good management is very rare these days.

@ppastrana1672

6 күн бұрын

They made all full time employees into under 40 hrs a week and then cut the health care benefits and retirement since employees were no longer Full Time. That was what they did here about 20 - 25 years ago. Everyone had to get different jobs.

@NilaSpeaksLoudly

6 күн бұрын

And you believed that?

@user-fc2xk3uv8y

5 күн бұрын

​@@drewthompson7457 thats crazy. i get raises every year, retirement benefits and more. but i think it depends on the industry you work in for sure. since im in healthcare a union is incredibly necessary. the state proposed budget cuts for the program i work in specifically, and our union advocated for us and had us harass govt officials out of doing it. they organize protests as well.

The union should have several seats on the board.

@SharienGaming

6 күн бұрын

how about the workers should have all the seats on the board?

@SofaKingShit

6 күн бұрын

Please forgive the pun but you would actually only need to have the CEO forced onboard one flight to drastically improve the quality control methinks.

@johnjohnjohn1838

6 күн бұрын

The union should BE the Board

@red_roy

6 күн бұрын

​@@SharienGaming thats the goal. but rome wasnt built in one day.

@georgesheffield1580

6 күн бұрын

Legal everywhere in the world ,EXCEPT in the USA

Worked Spirit seven years. Scary corner cutting, inadequate training, out of touch management.

@mikestein1024

20 сағат бұрын

You mean boeing they always try to separate themselves from spirit but really it’s the same entity

Cost goes up, safety and space go down, employee wages stay low... i wonder where all of this money is going. Surely, greed couldn't be the cause of all of these issues

@magnificentmuttley154

6 күн бұрын

Profitability & maximized stock gains have been the root of american manufacturing since the 80's. The first time I witnessed it, it was from a mechanic's perspective. A 'teenager cutting his teeth on isuzus & nissans. It was pathetic the way ford & gm made low quality, small 4 cylinder cars to at long last cope with high gas prices, & as a late response to japan providing people exactly what they needed. A small, reliable, fuel-efficient car (or truck) Naturally relations with the workers bit the dust, too. And as japan expanded & tigtened its grip on the american auto market, detroit faced factory closures, & layoffs of 100's of 1,000's of workers To me, the last of truly great leadership in american business was lee iacocca. He turned chrysler around, & saved it from bankruptcy & dismantling. Unlike wall street during the obama years, iacocca even managed to pay back an astronomically-sized government bailout. There was a time when fiscal/ economic responsibility was practiced at ibm, ford, boeing, chrysler, intel, etc, but no longer For the most part, the ethic of industry hasnt changed. Its been Profits Over People ever since. We will not survive as a nation with criminals in control

@m.j.carlson8246

6 күн бұрын

Welcome to late-stage capitalism. The only question is what we get together and do about the wealthy stealing everything not nailed down

@Novastar.SaberCombat

5 күн бұрын

Rich gotta rich. Poor gotta serve, suffer, and *submit*. 💪😎✌️ That's just how it is. #copium

@je862

5 күн бұрын

@@magnificentmuttley154 The book 'A Savage Factory' by Robert Dewar certainly solidifies your comment. The author was a factory worker at an auto assembly plant starting in the late 60's or early 70's and finally had enough by around the mid 1980's. The book was a good read, and for me, being in manufacturing since the 1980's, it really had an impact. I could hardly believe some of the things he described....

@audreyl704

5 күн бұрын

😒

What makes this union protest so different about past protests is that they arent just conplaining about wages, benefits and vacation. They also want the company to make safe planes and address their engineering and QA issues

@jonathanjones3126

6 күн бұрын

It's the union workers who are the ones not doing quality work...

@glennhecker4422

5 күн бұрын

​@@jonathanjones3126They WANT to do quality work. The Almighty Bean Counters pressure them to cut corners that shouldn't be cut!

I feel like there should be some kind of penalty for Boeing committing first degree murder on two whistleblowers

Fire Calhoun now and take away any compensation package from him!!!!

RIP John Barnett and Joshua Dean

@saininj

7 күн бұрын

Real American heroes those two were. RIP

@ryanlittleton5615

6 күн бұрын

What's interesting is Josh got a job at Boeing after he blew the whistle at Spirit.

@SkyBear0509

6 күн бұрын

Airbus killed them Follow the money

@wumi2419

6 күн бұрын

​@@SkyBear0509If there was so much money involved that it's profitable for Airbus to arrange their deaths on different continent, boeing has enough incentive to hire bodyguards to protect them. So no, it's more likely that Boeing decided that damage to their image from death of a whistleblower will be less than damage from the lawsuit and damage to image from said lawsuit.

@johnc3525

2 күн бұрын

@@SkyBear0509 Found the Boeing hire.

The leadership of this company is 100% guilty of reckless endangerment and should be punished accordingly....

@Freddisred

7 күн бұрын

Numerous counts of manslaughter and the assassination of a whistleblower

Remember when corporations made their money by providing a quality good or a useful service and not stock options? Greed destroys everything.

@ScaleScarborough-jq8zx

7 күн бұрын

It’s disgraceful, and I can’t imagine the garbage motivations behind it besides greed.

@Craxin01

6 күн бұрын

@@ScaleScarborough-jq8zx It’s a bottomless hole they are desperate to fill and never will.

@WhichDoctor1

6 күн бұрын

that was back in the days after FDR had broken the monopolies and stripped the super rich of much of their power so they had to actually make something of use to tempt customers in a functioning market. But making good products and paying workers is less profitable than paying workers poverty wages to make crap for customers who have no alternatives. So now the super rich have rebuilt their power they are of course going back to the most profitable business model. Thats just an inevitable outcome of wealth inequality. The only way to fix this is to strip the super rich of their power once again, and their power is their money. 70% top rate of income tax, wealth taxes and changing the constitution to get rid of Citizens United is the only way to fix this. Anything else will just be undone by lobbying. As long as the rich have enough money to buy governments, they will buy governments that let them get richer at everyone else's expense. So we need to make sure governments are unaffordable to anyone

If it's Boeing, I ain't going.

Greed is not the desire for more, it's the desire for more at the expense of others.

@LyritZian

7 күн бұрын

Not to be contrarian, for I lean left, too, but in a world of finite resources, there is nearly no such thing as having more without others' expense.

@irri4662

7 күн бұрын

Present and future.

@fieryrebirth

7 күн бұрын

@@LyritZian Which is why greed is seen as the deadliest of human sins.

@bhz8947

7 күн бұрын

@@LyritZianIt’s not all or nothing. Striving for a promotion at work (which deprives someone else of a promotion) is one thing. Destroying a vital aerospace company and causing death so you can make a hundred million dollars is something else.

@mikevidovich8311

6 күн бұрын

Well said - well said . Include STR / Air BnB / investors = owners destroying American residential housing market

I worked in the firearms industry and the same things were happening. The entire managerial class in this country is Soviet tier.

Union Strong!!! Execs need prison time for the danger they've placed passengers. Buybacks need to be illegal.

@magnificentmuttley154

6 күн бұрын

Profitability & maximized stock gains have been the root of american manufacturing since the 80's. The first time I witnessed it, it was with the pathetic way that ford & gm made low quality, small 4 cylinder cars to at long last cope with high gas prices, & as a late response to japan providing people exactly what they needed. A small, reliable, fuel-efficient car (or truck) Naturally relations with the workers bit the dust, too. And as japan expanded & tigtened ita grip on the american auto market, detroit faced factory closures, & layoffs of 100's of 1,000's of workers To me, the last of truly great leadership in american business was lee iacoca. He turned chrysler around, & saved it from bankrupcy & dismantling. Unlike wall street during the obama years, iacoca even managed to pay back an astronomically-sized government bailout. There was a time when fiscal/ economic responsibility was practiced at ibm, ford, boeing, chrysler, intel, etc, but no longer For the most part, the ethic of industry hasnt changed. Its been Profits Over People ever since. We will not survive as a nation with criminals in control 😪

Still not forgetting that dead whistleblower. Happens a lot.

@AmonTheWitch

7 күн бұрын

three now

@DixonYamouf

7 күн бұрын

Which one? How long can they continue to quell dissent

@matthorrocks6517

7 күн бұрын

These people might end up de@d too

@matthorrocks6517

7 күн бұрын

Why cant i post ughhhhh

@raygunsforronnie847

7 күн бұрын

@@matthorrocks6517 YooToob time out because somebody reported you. Could be 2 weeks or a month.

It's all about greed and it's all about BlackRock and Vanguard........PRIVATE EQUITY

@MasterOfBaiter

6 күн бұрын

It's not anyone moralfailing. It's a systemic failing of industries all having to compete for capital and thus having to maximize returns to be as tempting as possible to idiots who have the money or they have to close down shop. If you want to blame something blame this whole mode of production that makes these things inevitable

@SkyBear0509

6 күн бұрын

Well these guys are greedy too

@magnificentmuttley154

6 күн бұрын

Profitability & maximized stock gains have been the root of american manufacturing since the 80's. The first time I witnessed it, it was with the pathetic way that ford & gm made small 4 cylinder cars to at long last cope with high gas prices, & as a late response to japan providing people exactly what they needed. A small, reliable, fuel-efficient car (or truck) Naturally relations with the workers bit the dust, too. And as japan expanded & tigtened ita grip on the american auto market, detroit faced factory closures, & layoffs of 100's of 1,000's of workers To me, the last of truly great leadership in american business was lee iacoca. He turned chrysler around, & saved it from bankrupcy & dismantling. Unlike wall street during the obama years, iacoca even managed to pay back an astronomically-sized government bailout. There was a time when fiscal/ economic responsibility was practiced at ibm, ford, boeing, chrysler, intel, etc, but no longer For the most part, the ethic of industry hasnt changed. Its been Profits Over People ever since. We will not survive as a nation with criminals in control😪

@absolutezenith297

6 күн бұрын

Blackrock and vanguard would be public equity ie etfs, index funds, mutual funds, etc- private equity is Blackstone, kkr, apollo, bain, etc

@sheldondrake8935

6 күн бұрын

@@magnificentmuttley154 the same kind of vampire-capitalism thinking that sells poison fake food should not be running airplane manufacturing

Their priority is money and not safety.

It's really sad when the workers demand quality products. A lot has to go wrong in a company to get that far.

Could’ve sworn I saw a video saying the CEO of Boeing got a pay increase of like 45% in a single year. But the real workers pay stay stagnant. Sounds backwards to me imo

Industry analysts, insiders talk about a combination of Boeing issues: inherited corporate culture of McDonnell Douglas (cult of “Neutron Jack” Welch GE influence), Boeing Wichita spinoff to Spirit AeroSystems, corporate HQ move to Chicago, now DC area, stock buybacks, critical loss of necessary skilled, experienced talent from retirement and layoffs, move to non-union South Carolina 787 factory, and more

Makes a person more and more afraid of flying.

@magnificentmuttley154

6 күн бұрын

Let the airline industry have a catastrophic failure, then. Sometimes its the only way to a turnaround, & drastic changes to "the system" 💥💥💣

@FirstnameLastnames

2 күн бұрын

​@@magnificentmuttley154how about we *not* just let people die whilst the airline industry continues to take a nose-dive...

@Topper_Harley68

Күн бұрын

Airbus.

I work on the government side of Boeing and have stricter regulations that allow quality and safety have a better voice but we need this in commercial too. Hopefully we see positive changes. I am ready for Boeing to be an Engineering company again and not a shareholder profit company.

In simple terms, corporate greed.

@peterebel7899

2 күн бұрын

In simple terms: Corruption in the Pacific Northwest.

All that money saved on wages, pensions, and outsourcing is costing them more in the long run. Except for the suits strip mining the company. If I screwed up in my former line of work, I would not leave with a $23M golden parachute.

@ogre706

6 күн бұрын

These are not long-term thinking people though.

@wumi2419

6 күн бұрын

​@@ogre706I would even say it's their job to ruin companies for short term gain and catapult out

32,000 plus 10,000 hired since November 2023.... so 40,000 Washingtonians living below the poverty line while working 40+ hrs/week..... and yes, she is correct; you make more $ at McDonalds than building a 300 million dollar aircraft.

@erikness4231

5 күн бұрын

They'll lay off most of them after they vote boeing's way on the upcoming contract. boeing is just buying "yes" votes.

@ADAPTATION7

3 күн бұрын

Someone is going to have to explain this to me. How can a unionized employee in the aerospace industry make less than a non-specialized fast food employee?

@erikness4231

3 күн бұрын

​@@ADAPTATION7It's often the starting wage that's the issue. Fast food workers don't top out at nearly the same. But yes, boeing's starting wage turns off a lot of good prospective workers.

@ADAPTATION7

3 күн бұрын

@@erikness4231 Well, I would sure like to know what's the starting wage of a unionized floor employee at Boeing. It can't be less than a UAW working for one of the big threes (I hope).

@erikness4231

3 күн бұрын

​​ 3:32 @@ADAPTATION7It depends on the actual job code but I believe structural mechanics (most new hires) are starting at $24 per hour. That's in Washington state which is union. South Carolina, I have no idea, but I'm sure it's much less.

How to make it obvious that you couldn't care less about safety, but do everything you possibly can do to save your bottom line:

How sad. Back in the day people used to say, "If it's not Boeing I'm not going."

@Toywins

7 күн бұрын

I've never heard that one, but that got a good laugh out of me! 😩😂 The newest one I know is "Fly Spirit, and become one." 😂

@bevinboulder5039

7 күн бұрын

@@Toywins It wasn't meant to be funny in the early sixties. It was meant to be dead serious. If the airline didn't use Boeing planes people wouldn't fly on that airline.

@GarrettReynolds-uh9vj

7 күн бұрын

These days in 2024 you can leave out the "not". Ryanair in Europe who fly all boeing are really suffering.

@ChrisSowa

7 күн бұрын

If it ain’t Airbus, I’m taking the bus.

@TheChiefEng

6 күн бұрын

That is very true and I used to hold that belief back in the 1980s and 1990s. Today, the only Boeing airplane I will accept to fly on is the Boeing 777. I have never and will never accept a flight with a Boeing 737 MAX. While I have flown the 787 many time and found it to be a very good airplane (not as comfortable as the A-350), I have always planned my travels since 2020 so I completely avoid flying any other Boeing airplane than the 777. If at all possible, I plan my travels flying Airbus only no matter any extra cost of time incurred to do so. As a flying customer I simply don't trust Boeing and their products today. Had a similar situation as the 737 MAX coverup happened in Europe, the responsible would have been sent to prison. There is no way they could have paid their way out of getting prosecuted as happened in America. You do not kill 346 innocent people due to a coverup and get away with it anywhere else than in America where profit can circumvent justice. By not punishing the guilty for the murder of 346 innocent people, American basically became the global laughingstock and remains to be so to this day. The justice system in America is simply corrupt, worthless and utterly 3rd world. Boeing got away with murder and currently, America has an ex-president and plenty republican lawmakers who got away with supporting an insurrection and thus treason against the US Constitution. America is today simply a rotten pit of corruption, corporate greed and an incompetent and impotent justice system.

All this information was available to the press _before_ doors started falling off in mid flight. Why are we only hearing about this *now?*

@bigvaxmeanie925

6 күн бұрын

Because the media wasn't interested in covering it.

@mikestein1024

19 сағат бұрын

It’s been a serous issue in the making for 20 years now

Criminal charges for corporate greed!

@AttilaAsztalos

5 күн бұрын

So let me get this straight: you expect the wealthy and powerful who make the rules to decide to harshly punish the wealthy and powerful who make the rules...? Can I interest you in a bridge I have for sale...?

F the executives who only care about enriching themselves rather than quality control

This keeps happening with every company. Maybe the way the whole system is set up is the problem?

@Infernal_Elf

3 күн бұрын

Absolutely the US sadly Lacks proper rigid rules and regulations and accountability and transparency for companies.

Watch John Oliver's Boeing segment. Boeing's priorities were obvious when they moved HQ from Seattle where their plant workers and engineers are to DC where their lobbyists are.

@irri4662

7 күн бұрын

Yep. $$$

Every checkflight performed by Boeing should be required to have at least one top corporate executive aboard as a passenger, and all the executives should be on the roster, each one randomly chosen for a flight.

I too work for a company who's main concern is making shareholders happy first. Extremely frustrating.

The ceo that got 50+ million to quit was pathetic. The engineering going on then is today's problem.

Jack Welch would be proud of the way Dave Calhoun has destroyed a once-great American company for the sake of Line Go Up.

Must be the doings of private Equity like blackrock, blackstone, vanguard, etc etc etc. Private Equity is a parasite...........

@12pentaborane

7 күн бұрын

I'd say it's PE-adjacent. Boeing is self-owned, just the upper management was doing their absolute best to pump the stock, to look attractive to the likes of PE and institutional investors.

Pretty much every company in this country has this problem. Putting executive pay and shareholder profits over all else. Time for consumers and workers to start solving this problem since it won't get taken care of any other way.

@woohunter1

6 күн бұрын

100% agree with you. I used to be anti-union, I know, I know, I was extremely ignorant and young enough to know everything there is to know). Well, I did my homework, anyway, we can give billionaires the middle finger, I’m in!

This sort of management is happening in every industry and it's driven by leadership's primary goal of making lots of money, unfortunately they are setting the business up for failure because of what is nothing more than greed. Personally, I'd like to end stock payouts for well established companies so that money is used more appropriately to reward those doing the hard/real work.

Corporate greed. Full support for those doing the hard work creating flying machines.

We have the same thing happening where I work.. but where I work, when we stumble on process, we don't have a plane fall out of the sky.

Profitability and stock price clearly don't go hand in hand, certainly not in the long term. But there is only short term thinking at the top: "How long can I milk this gig to look awesome and afford that yacht and golf membership, before getting out just before it all goes south?"

@christenw.1726

7 күн бұрын

Exactly because even people who buy stocks/partial stocks do pay attention and will not buy because there's no viability for long-term. They would make much more if they focused on quality. No serious investor would consider investing with so many red flags

@raygunsforronnie847

7 күн бұрын

@@christenw.1726 Individuals seldom buy individual stocks these days, it's mostly institutional investors who primarily seek the highest possible returns relative to the safety of their investments. Ultimately these investors determine corporate strategy by investing, or not, in a given company.

Every normal company would fire the Mgmt instantly and make them accountable plus make them payback their horrendous salery... They should be ashamed of their poor management skills...

Hoping they don’t murder many of the strikers.

@serafinacosta7118

6 күн бұрын

Many ?.. Are you insane ? None of them !

People need to focus on Private Equity, that's the real cause of all of this.

Boeing used to be the pride of Washington State... And then they pushed the engineers out and pushed profit over safety.

This may seem weird but until all these Boeing issues, especially the door falling off, I never really gave any thought to the fact that humans actually built the planes we all fly in. This is 100% not an industry that should even be allowed to shortchange their employees or cut corners on quality. Lobbying has destroyed our government. Greed has destroyed our economy. Ignorance and weakness has destroyed our society.

Shut it down.

@Bluetangg

4 күн бұрын

😂 right.

What if Boeing was worker owned? Bad apples would have the majority kicking them out.

@WhichDoctor1

6 күн бұрын

but then billionaire shareholders wouldn't be making the money, ordinary people would. So it wouldnt be allowed. The billionaires pay the governments to make sure they are always the ones walking away with the money, whatever happens

@m.j.carlson8246

6 күн бұрын

@@WhichDoctor1 Correct. Maybe we should vote for politicians who work for people not billionaires.

The workers talk way more sense than the CEO who is only good in blame deflection. Fire the management and let the workers take care of building airplanes.

Here's to the democratic management of every company by its workers! They are the experts and know how to run the business, because they are the ones that make it run.

@jonathanjones3126

6 күн бұрын

The regular workers know nothing about how the contracts and business side work

wages at *boeing* are comparable to mcdonald’s??? wtaf

I don't see why workers would want to be paid fairly and get fair working conditions. Don't they see that, by insisting on those things, they are solely responsible for a reduction in shareholder value? Don't forget that your value as a person is directly related to the amount of wealth you have accumulated. So rich people have simply worked more and better than poor people. /s

It's not just the commercial side... boeing defense has the same shit going on, it just hasn't become public yet. It is always about schedule and not quality and safety. They keep the defense side quiet cause we're the ones keeping the company afloat... I do want to point out though we do have some of the best mechanics working on our fighter jets, so we make damn sure everything is done right regardless of what management says. Stay strong my union brothers and sisters.

Merging with McDonald Douglas was the worst decision ever made by Boeing! Definitely started the safety and Quality downfall. 😒😒😒

My retired parents were asking me why people keep "whining" about work life balance and wanting more money. I told them I didn't think 2 retired people that worked 7am to 4 pm Monday through Friday for most of their careers would understand the struggle we are having now. My husband got a job at the factory my dad worked at before he retired. They started him at $14.50 in the 2010s. He was telling my dad that was pretty low. My dad's response was "That's what I started at in 1991, that's good money." I said, "That was good money, to live as good as you did back then he would have to make $25." He did not agree. He retired making $35+ an hour.

@markopinteric

6 күн бұрын

Have you parents heard of inflation?

@GeneralChangOfDanang

6 күн бұрын

@@markopinteric My in-laws are the same way. I think reality is going to hit them hard when they go shopping for their retirement home in the coming years.

@ADAPTATION7

3 күн бұрын

20th century wages in the 21th century are the problem.

Greed is the nature of capitalism

@bhz8947

7 күн бұрын

Which is why laws and regulations exist and should be enforced.

@mikhailmobius2308

6 күн бұрын

No, fool. Greed is human nature. Only laws and religion counteract it.

@nw6198

6 күн бұрын

Greed is the nature of people. Capitalism is just an economic system, which isn't something that thinks or desires.

@bhz8947

6 күн бұрын

@@nw6198 Nobody claimed that capitalism thinks or desires. You simply misinterpreted what that person meant.

@nw6198

6 күн бұрын

@bhz8947 I responded exactly to what he said. And that's exactly what many people believe, or act like they believe, when they see a problem and cry "capitalism." Capitalism didn't do anything, people did. But if we keep blaming "capitalism", we'll miss the real problem and end up throwing out a perfectly good economic system without really thinking about it. And make no mistake, there are a lot of people who want to do that in favor of socialism or communism. A lot of those people are prone to cry "capitalism" any time someone acts corrupt. That's what I'm responding to, and that's what I hope people will think about more.

there is profitability and then there is greed

I won’t fly on a Max plane and now have become concerned about flying on any Boeing plane.

About time. It is time for workers to take over.

@jimarcher5255

5 күн бұрын

May I recommend the book “Animal Farm”. To you.

We should severely limit stock based compensation for leadership of corporations. We are incentivizing these people to juice the stock price for the short term, so they can sell their shares at a high price. It’s no different than saying to them “if you cut corners you will get paid more.”

Being retired now, I don’t mind speaking out regarding large corporations. I was upper management for years and deep down inside the boardrooms, safety is number one…as long as it doesn’t interfere with production. True story.

@Bluetangg

4 күн бұрын

Too bad you’re only now finding your courage.

That was a catastrophic failure, but your coverage is top-notch

1st Step: Nationalize Boeing and subcontractors. 2nd Step: Transform them into workers COOPs in a way to maximize quality, productivity and innovation. Give money and credits to those who do the work. These people know what is wrong and will turn things around.

@Demopans5990

7 күн бұрын

Boeing is basically a government firm anyways with the amount of defence work it does

I had a 25 year Boeing man retire and come work for us at UW. He said it just wasn't worth it anymore.

Sounds like theres gonna be a masacre of employees for talking

The most amazing part about this is that the name Boeing has become synonymous with killing whistleblowers

Nationalize Boeing. Seriously, the government subsidizes it anyway.

@irri4662

7 күн бұрын

Uhhh.... NASA. SO no. Just don't make To big to fail. And have alternatives. TESLA planes 🙏

@harrybudgeiv349

7 күн бұрын

​@irri4662 tesla is shit. Elon Musk is not anything special. He is the product of wealthy parents.

@harrybudgeiv349

7 күн бұрын

​@@irri4662 No

@to4217

7 күн бұрын

the way you suggested Tesla planes unironically is disturbing. Have you SEEN the recall issues with teslas and in particular that shitty cyber truck? 🤡

@timetraveler9218

7 күн бұрын

​@@irri4662Teslas are terrible

I appreciate that one of the workers used the phrase "life-work balance" and not "work-life balance." Caught me by surprise. Really underlines how backwards our work-first priorities are when "life" is coming second.

The sad thing is not that one company is dictating prices to other companies at the expense of safety, but that the other companies are simply going along with this and not saying "Then find someone else who is putting people's lives at risk, we're not going along with this".

These CEO's need serious and quick justice.

Holy crap! This is what I experienced with Textron (Cessna) in 2016-17. Textron bought out Hawker-Beech and they were pushing the safety and quality envelope. The wire shop was outsourced to Mexico. Which ended up causing stoppages on the assembly line because of the wire bundles causing power on checks to fail when completing an aircraft. They hired me on as a mechanic along with so many other people off the street who had no previous experience in aviation and aviation culture. I only knew about FOD and tool inventory due to my training in the Army. “Voluntary overtime” was a joke. Voluntary wasn’t truly voluntary. They question why you aren’t working 7 days a week. Working experimental we kept pushing testing milestones that were unrealistic. Since no one knew about FOD. We had to halt production to spend a full 24 hours looking for FOD. Literally show up to work to do nothing while a select few would inspect the aircraft. Instead of having a policy of clean as you go. Having multiple sets of eyes checking your work. It was stressful. I had to admit that I was missing a screwdriver and I admitted to losing it. Ended up I think someone hole it because it showed up in plain sight.

Excellent video. Very well covered. Next on the law suits against the Boeing corporate suits. 🙏

They should have never moved corporate to Chicago.

Stock price is important and profitability is important but having a 5 year up in stock price isn’t good at the expense of 20 years of pain. Quality is important.

Solidarity with Boeing workers!

Shareholder Value is the main problem.

@Demopans5990

7 күн бұрын

Can be turned upside down of the Social Security Admin owns say, 40% of Boeing stock

The headline is concerned about quality control. How about the concern is about staying alive if you come forward? Are there any whistleblowers left? So many have died under mysterious And suspicious conditions.

This sounds SO very familiar. I am a refugee of corporate greed. After 24 years at a Fortune 500 in vitro diagnostic medical system manufacturer, I was laid off in a corporate restructure in 2006 as a manufacturing group manager. I was looking to get out anyway and found a safe haven elsewhere, and have thrived ever since. My former employer made some major screwups by overlooking some key software validation that resulted in physicians getting believable wrong answers from the tests they ran on our equipment, which is the worst scenario possible. The FDA stepped in and spanked them. They never recovered and today are a shell of their former glory. This was all brought about by the same types of issues being aired here. It is sad for the nation.

If it’s a Boeing, I ain’t going!

I will never fly on a Boeing plane

My mom worked for the city. Each stream has it's own unique salmon species. Boing dumped solvants down a spawning stream, rending a species extinct. My mom fined them every year, the county sued, and forced them to decon the stream all the way to the Sound. I watched them play threaten, yes. If we taxed them, then they "have" to do massive layoffs like absolute creeps.

Nothing that buyback won't fix❤