Thank you very much for your feedback Jay! We also offer this liquid cooled solution in our Prometheus XVII which has a quiet membrane keyboard and our MECH-15 G3R for those seeking a quiet mechanical keyboard in a smaller and lighter 15.6" form factor. Also, you were almost there on removing the bottom cover... Three screws were remaining on the back section (behind the LPP port cover) that still needed to be removed and you'd have been there!

@lovo.c8256

Жыл бұрын

I love your laptops, wish it was available in my country as well.

@PremaMod

Жыл бұрын

(•̀ᴗ•́)و

@Gurupimp10

Жыл бұрын

Great build, good job guys!

@hi_tech_reptiles

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for not hiding the info on where the screws are like... Some companies try lol

@sophiabachelard4208

Жыл бұрын

Would you consider doing a WC laptop with ryzen? given that they are much more power efficient, maybe it's be easier to cool?

I love Eluktronics. Sure, my Eluktronics 17" was a rebranded Clevo, but I can call them right now and speak to someone in America who has extensive experience with their products, and actually answers all my questions without delay. None of the big names come close. It sounds counter-intuitive, but small companies are often best for enthusiasts.

@ACE112ACE112

Жыл бұрын

eluktronics has been using tongfang chassis for multiple years now.

@tdfefdsa4656

Жыл бұрын

@@ACE112ACE112 What does this mean? Does the Eluktronics laptops contain software from TongFang? Like the BIOS or something?

@nathancasey7712

9 ай бұрын

​@@tdfefdsa4656no the chassis

Those scores are impressive, another thing added to "cant afford" list

@stew8584

Жыл бұрын

Same, don't even want to know the price.

@VLDuckyy

Жыл бұрын

@@stew8584 max out every thing is cheaper than Alienware 17 w/ same specs

@RedcubeX24

Жыл бұрын

@@stew8584 starts from 2000€ with lower specs (i7 12700H with 3060 and 16gb of RAM) up to 3750€ for the build here.

@johnniewalker3134

Жыл бұрын

price is 2000 usd base model, $4,444 for everything maxed out.

@johnniewalker3134

Жыл бұрын

@@VLDuckyy Alienware is just branding at this point, i would take this laptop Eluktronics over Alienware any day.

this would have been perfect when i was in the navy. Small enough to bring on ship for a long underway and no need for a separate desktop that sits at home unused for months on end. Not to mention the ease of transport when changing duty stations!

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I like the way the code was given this time. It's also cool that you can still listen to the video in the background and still know when the code is given.

it would be cool if they had the water-cool mode on a hotkey macro type deal, so it was super-fast to be on the go

Jay, I really enjoy your insight into specs of systems, custom setups, mix and match parts and your information on how properly build a setup and howbto avoid rookie mistakes especially in cable management. I especially enjoy the humor on your channel when you review setups. Keep up the great work. Jake.

These videos still make me smile - great content like the (seemingly) more random approach to ‘what next’ and that you seem to have the energy back - keep up the great work!

Jay, I really enjoy your content. I've been watching for about the last 6 months, and even have gone back and watched some of your older videos. I find them very informational as I was building 286 computers back in the day. I used to buy components out of the old Computer Shopper Magazines that were about 2 inches thick. Keep up the good work.

@mannye

Жыл бұрын

Hey Lee! Good to see a fellow "ancient" geek here.

Duuude, this thing was special and this video LITERALLY popped up on my feed after I had a good ol conversation with a fellow coworker and friend regarding our next builds. He had it mind to save and go for a new lap top rather than desktop for the time being. Soon as I started watching the beginning of this video I sent it straight to him, with the words, "Future laptop for you? huh? huh?" After he watched it he straight up texted me back, "I want that laptop. Wow!" I couldn't help but chuckle. 🤣 it was priceless!

Hey I just wanted to thank you for all the videos. There is so much information out there that feels important to understand before buying and your videos do a great job of explaining things realistically. I’ve been gaming on a laptop for 5 years and it’s finally time for me to upgrade. Armed with the knowledge you’ll have given me I feel confident in making the best purchase.

@devanshanil2468

Жыл бұрын

legion 5 pro, eluktronic , xmg all are high tier enthusiast gaming laptops.

Amazing video like always Jay! Kudos to Eluktronics for this piece of super tech. I like how it's just plug and play, and everything together looks very nice.

It's getting 9 thousand more points in cinebench than my PC and it's a laptop. Even if I wouldn't be interested in laptops at all, that's just insane.

@dustysparks

Жыл бұрын

Right?! I think Linus reviewed this as well, and the pre-production model had some issues that they've corrected, and it's just... DAMN. With a docking station this IS a desktop computer basically. DAMN.

@dominic.h.3363

Жыл бұрын

@@dustysparks I've seen that. Don't remember him running 20k on Cinebench though. I do like practical reviews, and somehow LTT isn't doing that anymore. They completely unlearned how to be consumer-centric if you ask me.

@yunodiewtf

Жыл бұрын

Yeah, just benched my 9700KF at 130W and it got 9400 points. Dang.

@Mr.Morden

Жыл бұрын

That's the 12th gen Alder Lake Ecores padding that score.

@deadly_mir

Жыл бұрын

@@Mr.Morden sorta yeah. My 12600k pushes a 20k multi and 2050 single. Alder lake cores are damn fast

That is absolutely impressive. Doing 3D modeling/rendering and being able to go mobile at will and still getting phenomenal performance would be incredible. I didn't bother to look up how many thousands out of my price range it is.

@SkyzzV_

Жыл бұрын

It’s around 3,3 grand

@JC-bf6fy

Жыл бұрын

100% revit, cad, fusion 360 beast that you can game on during business trip

@WyattOShea

Жыл бұрын

@@SkyzzV_ So probably 75% more money than that again in my country.

Gotta say the highlight of this video was the demonstration of the quick disconnects in action. Impressive!

Best review from you guys in over 12 months Jay. I love watching you and Phil when you're in a super chill, but in super concentrate mode. Keep it up mate, I've started watching every video again lately. 👌

Low profile silent reds would be perfect in that keyboard and I bet you could get to the keyboard switch layer fairly easily

That is an impressive laptop. I could definitely see that replacing my desktop if i needed portability.

@spacecy

Жыл бұрын

+1

@Gamerboi99

Жыл бұрын

@@nichronos That sounds impressive, what parts does your system have?

@Iceman-hb3uk

Жыл бұрын

@@nichronos yeah but the point of a laptop is you also have all peripherals included, it's easier to bring around a laptop than a ITX with a monitor, speakers, mouse and keyboard...

@MrRubyscube

Жыл бұрын

@@nichronos It's smaller than that reservoir? Wow! What case and cooling to you use? I want :D

@jblps

Жыл бұрын

@@nichronos Bro no way it's smaller with those specs. You are misjudging the size. what case?

Thank you for sharing. I have never heard of this brand but I am extremely impressed with this laptop and cooler.

This thing reminds me a bit of my Alienware Aurora m9700 which was a "desktop replacement" in 2006. It featured not one but TWO Geforce Go 7900 GSs in SLI (believe it was the first SLI laptop). What they didn't tell me was that due to the unique configuration you could never update the graphics drivers. That fact meant it started to be unable to run newer games after about 18 months. That was my last laptop because it made me realize some of the physical limitations laptops suffer from. It's pretty cool to see innovative products like this one come around to work around those limits.

This seems so cool, I love the whole setup especially for doing heavy computing on the road in hotels

Would've liked to see you address other creators criticisms on the product as well considering how much previous press it's gotten but yeah, this is a big win for consumers as you have a laptop solution that can actually run the high end harderware without fear of thermal throttling or buying external solutions.

@dustysparks

Жыл бұрын

It looks like they fixed some of the big things that Linus had shown when he reviewed an earlier model.

@joshua41175

Жыл бұрын

@@dustysparks yeah, I know they still had complaints about the updated model such as filling the reservoir and I think the pump noise.

Thanks so much Jay for bringing a spotlight to the portability market of high-end laptops. I personally started my PC gaming adventures on a laptop due to school and this made me appreciate the effort companies go to create ease of movement. Always love a new JayzTwoCents video to start my day in Australia.

Finally! Been waiting for someone to make a laptop with all the best parts with a 17 inch monitor. May get one, I'm hyped!

@phishmastermike

Жыл бұрын

Ya personally I wouldn’t want to go lower then a 17 but omg the price increase just for bigger screens

Never really considered a laptop solution, this has me thinking differently. Thanks Jay!

Great video guys! I am not in the market for a laptop right now but this video did inspire me to run cinebench to see how my system adds up.

That is an awesome setup, I actually love the loud click noise when typing, however I could see where it could become a burden.

Okay, I am officially impressed! I saw an ad online (Facebook or somesuch...) and was very incredulous with the idea and execution. That was 4 days ago. This came along at a fantastic time to put my impressions and ideas in check. Awesome work Eluktroncs! Very well thought out and built!

Thanks for taking a look Jay! I love this laptop and the whole LPP solution is perfect for me. We have a small house and my wife complains when the fans on the laptop are ripping away so now I can wear tryhard pants in silence.

i bought my mag 15 based off your review and am still impressed 2 years later. it does everything my desktop does and is portable. wish i had the funds to upgrade to this. maybe next year.

amazing video J this is the coolest laptop ive ever seen with the external cooling and all much love stay blessed

That is IMPRESSIVE from a laptop. Was there a Thunderbolt port or anything for easy docking when at home on a desk...?

I like the simplicity of this solution (for a water cooled laptop, mind). However I'd really like to see a one plug solution! It would be fairly simple too to integrate the tubes and the cable into one "cable" and one plug maybe even with thunderbolt/USB-C too for a dock. would be really elegant. If I had a use and the money for a laptop like this I would mod it

@dustysparks

Жыл бұрын

As shown you're around $3K USD

@Femerenden

Жыл бұрын

Water and electricity in that close of a proximity will lead to trouble. Although it is in-elegant in its current form of a two step process to connect, the "one plug" solution would probably end up being too "over engineered" for a "consumer" product. And considering it would not be selling in large quantities, all that time and money invested to develop the "one plug" will have to be passed on to the customer, which will inevitably make the end product much more expensive than it needs to be.

@anotherriddle

Жыл бұрын

@@Femerenden you are right. Allthough it does not seem too hard to place a barrel jack on one frame, right next to the quick disconnects. Feasability would depend on how little the quick disconnects drip. Worst case you might have corrosion problems. With low voltages it isn't a safety issue. However, you are right that that the manufacturer probably didn't want to deal with that headache. Still, I'd love to do a mod like this. 😅

@falcool70

Жыл бұрын

Yeah I was wondering if anyone else had the same thoughts. I just think this limits the feasibility of the thing. I can’t see myself going thru the effort just to bring this thing to class or to a friends house or something. And that to me means it’s only good for people who really need the power on long work trips and then settle back at home for extended periods again too. Or maybe people who are semi nomadic like living in vans or military etc. He mentions school a lot but honestly the idea of carrying around a $3k machine to class sounds like way more anxiety than it’s worth

Love the video! I would like to see a teardown of this and get a look at what the cooling system looks like compared to other similar laptops.

I want two of this for my office laptop & traveling 😲 with two power brick,two cooler & two of the accessories.(one can stay in office,one at home)

Eluktronics was in my top 3 choices for a laptop but their sale ended and a legion 7 went on sale Idk if a ti and cpu are worth the 1k+ more than a 3080 and top end last gen cpu Although they probably supply good ram with it. Upgraded ram and got about 10% better fps

@JJ_ExMachina

Жыл бұрын

Yeah unfortunately bulk ram that many companies are getting, tend to be pretty bad. They are stuck with what Samsung or whoever supplies them give them. We as end users can be much more selective and get what we want... SO yes, upgrading the ram in laptops that support user replaceable ram, is a very worthwhile purchase and or upgrade to do.

@dislikecounter5191

Жыл бұрын

@@JJ_ExMachina also probably doesn't have a crappy mediatek wifi card

I want to see how these laptops compare if you give the Origin one a cooling pad. Like just whatever the bestselling laptop cooling pad is on amazon. I got one years ago and it totally changed how well my 8750h/1060maxq dell g5 performed. Is a pad all you need to achieve portability on the go + performance on the desk with the thinner laptop?

Very cool implementation of laptop water-cooling for really not much larger footprint comparatively speaking of course to the performance gained from it. Truly think this is a viable option for someone on the go wanting a higher performance experience when at home. Pretty cool product

Id really like to see inside. The parts configuration and how it fits in there. Never thought you could get a laptop that powerful. Or water cool one for that matter. Very cool stuff.

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That's really impressive. I hope we see more external cooling solutions from other brands too! I'd be more than happy to give up desktop computing entirely now that we have such capable laptop components, but thermals have always prevented it even on traditional "desktop replacement" form factors.

that watercooling hub thing needs to be a Full Thunderbolt dock with external monitor connections, 2.5g ethernet (10 gig preferred) and bunch of USB and card readers etc. speaker connections,.. just everything you need for a dual monitor desktop setup where you connect the water plugs and the thunder bolt connector and you have a full desktop! (power delivery too!

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cant wait to its on sale at home thank you Phil and Jay.

Yay for new ideas But this just seems like a recipe for a Very short-lived laptop .. The better solution is Still to have a desktop for gaming and a laptop for everything else. A side bonus is that the laptop can also run a serious OS.

@BrawndoQC

Жыл бұрын

Yeah that's what I do. I travel with my Asus Zephyrus G15 and have a nice desktop at home. No compromise.

Damn... That laptop is really approaching the performance of my 5900x with a 280 AIO... That's just crazy!

Exactly Jayz what my thought was about the keyboard, regarding the environment one may be in.

this laptop looks amazing, and the no you got from it are great, thanks for the tip Jay

So the concept of a desktop replacement laptop is a fluid one. This definitely is a desktop replacement but even my laptop with a Ryzen 4800 H and a RTX 2060 is a pretty fast computer and for me is currently a desktop replacement and currently my main computer. I do plan to build a desktop when the next generation of CPUs and the next generation of GPU come out but I am currently satisfied with this computer. If you are satisfied with good enough then even my laptop could be fine but if you want an uncompromising laptop or your work is demanding then you are the market for something like this.

Thanks for this review @JayzTwoCents!! I would definitely consider this laptop on my next purchase for both work and play!

Jay: Who want $5000 for their dream PC Me who already has a PC part list ready just in case: 🙋‍♂🙋‍♂🙋‍♂🙋‍♂🙋‍♂

@helium5912

Жыл бұрын

Was there a secret word in this video? Im not asking for it. Just wondering if it missed it.

@christieedward6822

Жыл бұрын

My hubs does too. Lol

@brisca6010

Жыл бұрын

Me who's about to buy a pc and still entering just incase

@mybrotherjames8579

Жыл бұрын

Yeah. It’s nice mc has a builder with local parts inventory so you can select jays store and see what’s available to shop there. Ex. They didn’t have stock listed for the 5800x3d last week but now have 25+.

@helium5912

Жыл бұрын

@Utabain I never said I did not watch it. I was asking if I MISSED IT. And who asked you anyways.

I have a p650HS with the 1070 in it. Have had it a few years. I love it and it's still going strong. It's even a descent VR capable machine. Sure I would love to have the newer faster one but it's been working great for my CAD and VR needs. My only gripe, and it's a small one is that the letter stickers have started to come off. Tiny gripe.

Love ur vids Jay. cheers from Costa Rica!

Awesome review on this laptop. I’d see Linus reviewing it while it was still in development, and it looks amazing.

Always interested in Laptops so I know about the options out there. I am always offering to build people PCs on comission, but once they hear I can't build a laptop, they ask for recommendations. Lol.

I really didn't expect a plugable watercooling solution for a laptop to be so simple and yet to work so well. Truly impresed.

I like that it looks like a clevo style laptop. The extra material for coolind is definitely a must.

The other laptop might also have cheaper RAM. Even with the same specs (of RAM) it will run slower. It might come to the single-rank vs dual-rank. I had this problem with my laptop (5800H, 3070) and the performance went up over 10% with new memory that was the same speed of 3200MHz.

I can't stand laptops. But, I've seen other people/companies try to liquid-cool a laptop, and this one is by far the raddest. I just can't stand the small screen (I use a 65" 4k TV for a monitor).

@OC.TINYYY

Жыл бұрын

At a long distance i'm guessing? Because a PPI of 67 is atrociously low from a few feet away on a desk, 35% worse than even a 1080P monitor @ 27"

@thecoolguy9364

Жыл бұрын

@@OC.TINYYY I have a 24" monitor at 1080p and I'd say that's as big I would go at 1080p

@MrLince-hr4of

Жыл бұрын

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@nathanjohnson2474

Жыл бұрын

Yes, at a long distance. It's great for gaming.

good to know this brand! never heard of them but I think I'll buy one for our 3D design department to test. thanks for showing this product! love your channel

Interesting concept for sure and enjoyable video too. Keep up your good work fellers.

-Jay "Do you want thin and light or thick and beefy?" -Phil "What are we talking about again?" -Me " Sandwhiches!"

I would add a cap replacment for the liquid cooling, those things (ofc not this in particular) tend to break. or maybe like silicon caps like the Zen products that use RCA protectors

Hahah the baby funnel was so cute! i'm new to your channel and absolutely love your videos, been binge-watching them all!

I never leave ur videos until I finish them cause there is always soemthing new to learn from you

That's really neat. If I ever get a need for a laptop, I'll look into these.

I was skeptical until the thing you did at the very end. Cool stuff, now I want one! 🙂

I wish I could get one of there in Brazil! Nice one Eluktronics.

Video idea! Upgrade the radiator module, beefier pump, bigger rad, larger resevoir!

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Жыл бұрын

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Incredible performance! Faster than my desktop. Nice tip on disabling Virus Protection for benchmark, I didn't know this one, Thanks!

Love the vid Jay. Great as always.

Reminds me of the 220 watt brick I had for a pro-star LT back in 08.

Always cool to see innovation, dies not seem to be the solution for me Okay your reaction to the little tunnel was just amazing, thanks for keeping it in the video priceless

I was hoping I could use the cooling on my own laptop because it's freaking hot lol it's pretty cool to see how it works. Just didn't see if the water pump is noisy or not.

Impressive piece of kit.

That is one fantastic performance laptop. Thanks for sharing it with us.

Hi Jay! Could you do a benchmark with the power brick unplugged and battery power only?? Performance laptops typically lose a ton of performance, sometimes up to 40% on the extreme when unplugged. I was wondering where this stood in comparison. Thanks

damn, that is cool. I'm normally all in on air-cooled for simplicity's sake, but that much grunt in a laptop is really impressive.

that is frickin awesome, tech is getting crazy fast and powerful

I’ll definitely be looking into one of those or the newer model when I’m in the market for a laptop in the next year or two I’ve never been impressed by one until now.

Wow now that is an awesome laptop. Great video very entertaining and informative as always.

I like this laptop! I am currently not looking to replace my desktop at the moment, but I might in the future. I like, that in the review Jay talks about the things I'd care if I were to buy this. Does it ship to Europe?

Regarding disassembly. By the look of this and my slight experience with laptop repair I'd bet money there's one or two screws under those stickers in the middle.

Yeah! Love your work Jay 😁

Re: "liquid" cooling a laptop (or just a bigger cooler) it can be more widely a thing if bottom panels on laptops had a "door" right over where the CPU and GPU are and have built in coolers that don't have heatpipes sticking out on the Z-axis (ex vapor chambers or the heatspreaders all around the chips on more recent Legion and Omen laptops). This way you can set up a stand at home where you have a water block screwed into (in a way that they can't short the laptop motherboard), have thermal tape on them, and then easily take off the door (instead of undoing so many screws and risking breaking clips frequently, or just barely use the gaming notebook totally as a desktop replacement and barely use it elsewhere) and set it over the cold plate. Can work with air coolers too depending on how high you can set the laptop on your desk. Either way the heatspreader or vapor chamber requirement is so the weight of the laptop does not all rest on the hollow heatpipe. If the bottom panel doors were a thing maybe the stands where you can screw in a waterblock or air cooler can even be mass produced (and have rad mounts) instead of being DIY wood, fiberglass, or 3D printer projects. Alternately if manufacturers find all this too janky just give us solid metal bottom panels (without flipping the motherboard...unlike Alienware) and give users the option of sticking tehrmal tape between the cooler+heatspipes/vapor chamber and the bottom panel to increase thermal mass as well as have the laptop cooler's fan also move heat from that panel instead of just the laptop's fans blowing on the heatsinks. This already works on Macbooks and I've seen a couple of people on Reddit doing this with Razer Blades. No it doesn't bench very high, but it does extend how long the CPU can run on PL1 or PL2 before throttling and how long the GPU can maintain boost while slightly cutting noise (you still need the laptop cooler with a fan, you're just getting the built-in fans to spin slower).

Dude that rocks! So cool thx guys!

Always been interested in Eluktronics products

This linked up with the screens would be awesome

Looks like a good solution. I went with a MSI GS66 12th gen as a desktop replacement (its good enough for my use-case). But one thing that I would test with that Eluktronics laptop is to see if it is possible to access a full bios like it is on the MSI by pressing (Left) Shift+CTRL + (Right) Alt+F2 and then have some fun with the cooling (are the internal tubes copper og alu?). I take it you have some custom loop parts to play with (also some fluid gaming parts if its Alu internally). Then perhaps some records could be broken?

"What do you want it to be about?" God Jay's humour kills me 😂

"What's in this box is something I've always wanted to see." There's no way there's a clean workshop in that box.

That is pretty cool for a laptop. Not sure I'd want one still just due to how I use my PC, but if you have to travel for work a lot and want to take your gaming rig with you this is as close to perfect as you can get

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Definitely want a quiet version of that laptop keyboard. Was already looking into getting a laptop. If thats an option id get it.

I really like this laptop brand. I bought an AMD version of the laptop here and such a second ssd in it. Works amazingly

Love this approach. My everyday laptop is a 17" 4th gen i7 with a mobile Nvidia GPU. 7 years old. I got it for gaming and the muscle it can throw at any work task including video editing. 7 years later, modern games are beyond what the GPU can do, but the rest of the laptop still kicks ass and the GPU still boosts video rendering. There is no work task I can think of that it cannot do. So this modern water cooled laptop is a terrific modern take on the same sort of idea and likewise this laptop will still be relevant for heavy duty work tasks long after the Nvidia card is obsoleted by the games of 2029.

No question J, you are soft focus, surprised no one on your staff caught this.

Yes! I love this idea. It seems amazing. But I have to agree with Jay. I hate loud keys. I love the feel but I hate the extra noise.

I'm really impressed at how much extra performance they squeezed out of a laptop with a simple quick connect liquid cooling.

That clicking keyboard reminds me of the scene in the movie Back To School when Dr. Phillip Barbay asks what is that clicking sound while teaching the class.

when i heard cherry browns... btw the amount of pig benis jokes in this vid lol jay please never change

The best cooling solution Ive ever seen. I want one.