Absolutely love this floorplan that is loaded with quality standard features and two comfortable seating areas👍but $60,000 for a 22ft no slide camper is a little hard to justify😬

@stopbreathereset958

Жыл бұрын

The price tag is what you get when you build something the way it’s supposed to be.

@stevez340

Жыл бұрын

@@stopbreathereset958 I'm just listening to so many buyers that have said that their initial build quality is lacking that of a $60,000 no slide camper.

@neilmac4730

Жыл бұрын

​@Steve Z That Curt trailing arm suspension is worth 10 grand by itself. Aluminum frame with no wood to rot will make this last a little longer and hold value as well. Big truck Rv channel is testing a trailer worth 150,000 at the moment. This seems to be fairly priced, it will be way cheaper than MSRP. Cheers.

@stevez340

Жыл бұрын

@@neilmac4730 Time will tell. They are a new manufacturer, so we’ll find out how their overall build quality is in 5-10 years. They don’t seem to discount them much. I’ve seen them priced in the mid $50,000 range but that might change, but if anyone thinks that’s a value for a 22ft no slide camper then God Bless👍

@macsaints10

Жыл бұрын

@@stopbreathereset958 like the old metal Coleman coolers.

Great Camper!!! Now price it at 35k and these will sell like hotcakes!!!!! Make more profit by selling more!!! Now who agrees with me LOL.

@drew8642

5 ай бұрын

Yeah because they’re are currently almost $50,000 for one

@porkchop10

4 ай бұрын

Despite it being loaded, I couldn't bring myself to even spend 35k on any camper that small. I've heard some say that Ember is like a Cadillac, and some owners state that they're turds on wheels like any other brand. Depends on your needs I guess? I'm going to places like KOAs, and my 10k Coleman built pre-Covid does the job. I could add solar/wheels/custom paint job/better jacks and still be way under 20 grand

@9Packin

4 ай бұрын

Yeah it's cool but WAY too expensive. Should be price about half of what it is (or less).

@TheBeingReal

3 ай бұрын

If you are not at a minimum of 40% gross margin, you are highly at risk of going under as a business.

@EmberRecreationalVehicles

2 ай бұрын

I wish it were that easy! In RVs, more than many other industries, you absolutely get what you pay for. We use many premium components and higher quality build materials - they all cost more and perform better. “Better” is the goal here. The price reflects that mentality.

Yep. 👍. That’s the one! I’d do the permanent bed option with a high grade mattress. Then I’d remove the lower bunk, and I’d use the top bunk for storage and a clothes rod hanger. The floor area becomes the dog bed area. Just the wife and myself, so seating and extra sleeping space isn’t a premium. Edit: the exterior aesthetics of this unit are amazing.

@stopbreathereset958

Жыл бұрын

I'd pull the lower bunk, build a desk, throw Starlink on the roof, and work from the road.

@marysaltlife1427

Жыл бұрын

Awesome ideas!

@TheBenperri

Жыл бұрын

Yep. No need for bunks. Top storage, bottom desk/dog zone. Permanent bed. Diner-style booth for dining/work

@TheBlackSheepChronicles

Жыл бұрын

Love the dog sleeping area/desk idea. Hmmmmm

@EmberRecreationalVehicles

2 ай бұрын

This concept offers total flexibility. The reconfigurable rear end allows for versatility on each trip… you can create different setups for different camping needs!

I love the fact that they finally built a trailer without the slide. I definitely like how everything was built.

@largol33t1

Жыл бұрын

I wouldn't buy a trailer with more than one slide. Every RVer I've talked to online says they always always have problems such as the slide getting stuck or leaking water. And I've seen fifth wheel trailers with FIVE slides. That's just asking for trouble.

@tigerpanda560

8 ай бұрын

@@largol33t1 I worked in a slideout department for several years and I agree. Pain in the ass to build/install.. and after a couple feet you're asking the cheapest parts the industry can find to bear weight with terrible leverage.

Glad to see that Ember is following through with creating a MSL version of all of their Overland bunkhouse models. It will be interesting to see if they do the same with their Touring Edition bunkhouse models...that would really be a game-changer for the RV industry. I love that they've updated their solar components to Victron and the A/C to the quieter/more efficient Trumba model. I wish that they would bulk up the frame on the Overland Series to enable CCC to increase to 30%-35% of total GVWR. The fact that the cargo capacity of this model is still only 1,250 lbs is not that overwhelming, even with the lack of the slide. I'd also wish they'd bring back the ladder connection point on the side of the trailer and not just on the back of the trailer. Being able to securely access the far side of the trailer comes in really handy in various situations...especially on slide models when you need to clear off the top of the slides but don't have to climb all the way on to the roof to do it. The idea of a modular camp kitchen setup is an interesting idea, but being able to secure it while going over rough roads would be a challenge. One of the reasons I've always been anti-camp kitchen (and pro-MSL) is because I've accumulated stoves, coolers, etc. over a lifetime of camping so a camp kitchen is really just a bunch of redundant gear. I can already replicate a camp kitchen setup up regardless of the RV and I'm sure I'm not unique in that regard. One thing that I think Ember should do in ALL THEIR OVERLAND SERIES MODELS is add 12v cigarette-style power outlets alongside their USB and 110v plugs throughout the RV. While ample USB plugs are great for charging phones and other small devices, there are a lot of devices that charge via 110v cords but with big, inline, omnipresent "power bricks" that reduce their voltage down below 110v and often into the 12v range. These include laptops, some larger tablets, speakers, electric razors, etc. These devices typically come with 110v cords because that's what everyone uses at home, but often you can order separate 12v cords for these devices from the mfg or from third parties on Amazon...which is how I recharge my laptop in the car. However, the 12v cords typically still have cigarette-lighter type plugs because the devices they are charging typically draw more power (or have bigger batteries) than USB charging can handle. THE POINT OF ALL OF THIS IS to be able to charge a bigger range of devices directly off of 12v, therefore, bypassing the invertor whenever possible because doing so is much more efficient, and your onboard battery power will last MUCH LONGER the less time the inverter is running. Other things that I'd like to see added to all of Ember's MSL models is: 1) a screen for the rear access door, which would be great for getting airflow through the RV instead of having to open the side cargo door every time; 2) 12v and/or 110v power to the front cargo box to allow for power to flow to the front cargo box for accessories in/on the cargo box like an air pump, etc. (or even to add a heating element to the propane side for cold weather camping); 3) an integrated off-grid water filter (like from Blu Tech)...or an easy way to mount and hook that type of heavy-duty filter into the existing water system; and 4) electronic anti-sway/ABS braking system - either integrated throughout the Overland Series lineup from the factory or as a factory option. All in all, I really like the direction that Ember continues to pursue with their Overland Series.

@JoshtheRVNerd

Жыл бұрын

Man.. ty for the effort and time you’ve applied here. Allow me some time to pour thru it!

I like it when manufacturers give you modular options. Makes it easier for us, the end user.

35:12 to the whole team at Ember. From the manufacturing side to the design and sales side of things. This is one nice camper.! Can you imagine having younger kids and putting them in those bunks with the screens down ,while the adults sit outside around the campfire. As it’s getting late you can keep an eye on the kids and you can effectively watch them until they can’t keep their eyes open anymore! Good job, Josh and good job Ember. 😊

@JoshtheRVNerd

Жыл бұрын

It sounds pretty awesome to me :)

Excellent video Josh. I still want to see this size TT with a North South queen walk around and drop the second jack knife sofa for a bar stool eating space. Keep up the great work Ember!!!

Love it! I’d love to see them make a 220MSL tandem axle version with no slide and full north south bed. Yes for the modular camp kitchen griddle!

@JoshtheRVNerd

Жыл бұрын

Yesssss

@UtahRoadbase

Жыл бұрын

Agreed!

@christopherjbarth

Жыл бұрын

I think this would be a good idea too!

@JoshtheRVNerd

Жыл бұрын

@@christopherjbarth you should tell someone at Ember to do that

@christopherjbarth

5 ай бұрын

Have you seen the new 240TKR?@@JoshtheRVNerd

Hey Josh, I respect the heckin out of you. Your passion and enthusiasm for the content you produce is infectious. I'm not even in the market for a new RV, but I will watch your stuff whenever I can. Thanks man.

@JoshtheRVNerd

Жыл бұрын

wow Thank you!

@dustinjames4530

Жыл бұрын

Same here. I’ve toyed with the idea of a travel trailer but in all honesty I’m about a year out because I would like to pay cash and have no debt. Randomly came across this channel and have been binge watching and learning a lot for if and when I do get one. Thanks for the great content, candidness and humbleness. 🙂

@JoshtheRVNerd

Жыл бұрын

@@dustinjames4530 Thx for joining up and tuning in! :)

Incredible how such a light camper, under 5k pounds dry, and such great build quality and be so Big ❤️💚

@EmberRecreationalVehicles

2 ай бұрын

Thank you!

I like this MSL layout best for the size anyway. As far as an outside kitchen, YES YES YES! If you missed it! YES! It doesn't need to be huge, a grill, a small fridge and a dog dish sink is ok. The water port is right there. Maybe a tiny adapter hose running to a faucet from that port, put a 5 gallon bucket under the drain. Build it to swing out for it's storage position. You're welcome 😂. Nice job Josh.

@JoshtheRVNerd

Жыл бұрын

Ty!!!

The one big miss, in my opinion, the sofa across from the kitchen - have a dinette option. You know how I like my dinettes!

@captaindanield5827

Жыл бұрын

Yes a two person dinette - but on the road side - same curb side as the bunk house model.

@petertarantelli

Жыл бұрын

@@captaindanield5827 exactly, even better on that side!

Love no slide!

I love a bunkhouse with no dinette of any kind. On rain days we could easily eat from our laps or even a portable/foldavble tv tray. If it’s not raining, we are outside for every meal. I wish more campers had no dinette options. The only thing we ever use the dinette for in our camper is extra prep surface or a catchall for our backpacks and stuff. Plus as a sleeping surface, unless they’re small kids, it sucks. 👍🏻

@JoshtheRVNerd

3 ай бұрын

Mom similar- we often eat right from the couch at home

Let’s hope there fit and finish has improved. If there are water leaks, and terrible fit and finish-it doesn’t matter how good the bones are.

The color of your shirt is "your" color Uncle Josh! Very handsome color on you!

What would be a super super neat option, if they put a roof top tent on top with a pass through portal from inside so the kids or you and your spouse could sleep or just hang out up there. Scout campers have one similar. Just something fun to think about.

@oompaem88

Жыл бұрын

Totally agree. Seems like the stargazer skylight would be a great locale for that.

@ed1011

Жыл бұрын

the 2nd floor will make it really unique and justified the higher price tag.

@stopbreathereset958

Жыл бұрын

Roof top tent is an option. Does not say if it's accessible from the inside. Hard shell tent, so I doubt it.

@GrillMarksBud-S-n-P

Жыл бұрын

The roof isn't exactly flat, so if you're into leaning...

Oh, man. That multi-use storage-bunk area is _brilliant!_ I wish this would be more standard where the bunks are usually placed. I don't need the bunks all the time, but it would be lovely to have the option to have my computer desk latched in, lol.

@JoshtheRVNerd

Күн бұрын

That’s why I like these so much!

As someone who likes to go off grid dispersed camping, I really like the solar package. A Three way fridge would be nice as an option. I like the murphy bed (I also roll around and snuggle). The fridge seems to be a good size and the bathroom looks nice. Storage seems to be plentiful and the cargo tie downs are handy. I do like that there is no slide. I give it two thumbs up.

@JoshtheRVNerd

Жыл бұрын

TY Daniel!!

Love this model. As far as outdoor kitchen design, I’ve seen some euro models (don’t recall models) that have the slide out trays at base(floor) level that have your small sink, gas grill, some utensil storage, etc. something similar might work with this ember model 😊 🤷🏼‍♀️ I’m no engineering expert; many of the euro designs I saw I wish we had here with our stateside RV companies.

Very cool unit Josh.. but you gotta go duel axle all the way. And after you've had the advantages of a slide, it's really tough to go back. Love the cargo access in the back, along with adjustable bunks. All other manufacturers be on alert.. Ember is an engineering genius!

@boskone

Жыл бұрын

I agree about the dual axles; I've had blowouts in single-axle trailers, and it's been a lot hairier than when there's another tire in the system. Regarding the slide, I can see either way...but Ember does have the 191MSL, which is basically the same thing with a slide. I can see cases for both: if I were a solo camper, the simplicity of the 190MSL would be attractive, and the extra space not a huge deal; for couples, having that extra couple feet is really nice.

@davelips

Жыл бұрын

​@@boskone yep we got kids, so the extra space with the breakfast nook slide is critical, especially when the weather isn't cooperating. Will definitely have to checkout Ember when it's time for an upgrade. The backdoor and adjustable bunks look phenomenal.

@elaineolson9951

Жыл бұрын

Yep, very cool RV but worried about single axle for long hauls… opinion?

@davelips

Жыл бұрын

@@elaineolson9951 dual axles provide greater stability when towing and parked/chocked, along with heavier GVW ratings. Duals will also allow you options in the case of a blowout on the highway in an emergency, whereas single axle blowouts can be very dangerous situations. But generally dual axles means more weight and a higher price tag. So there's a tradeoff between options, the build design and safety, versus trailer costs and towing vehicle limitations.

I fell in love with this at the camper and trailer show. It covers deer and elk season, camping with the littles, couples camping and solo camping. Room for all the gear, can handle Montana wind, and a true queen bed. Delicious ❤

I like this layout as well, love the kitchen side swap from the 191 MSL. And I've mentioned the idea of a modular outdoor kitchen module previously, so I'm a big fan of the suggestion! This layout makes me wonder how an optional countertop/breakfast bar in place of the jackKnife sofa would look. It may provide an open feel. Either way, I love what Ember is doing with these MSL models and the flexibility they are providing consumers.

@JoshtheRVNerd

Жыл бұрын

Ty George!

I love the idea of a modular kitchen for the MSL models. Also, I think Ember needs to look at additional solar capability for Max in order to support the second (540ah total) battery capacity. Adding another 200 - 400 watts would make the camper almost fully self contained. And a convection microwave standard would be nice.

@JoshtheRVNerd

Жыл бұрын

You can add a portable panel to these as well which helps close the wattage vs amp hours ratio gap btw

I love this model! Love Embers anyway, but well done, Ember, for designing this based on customers' input! 👏 I love how versatile and multi-use it is, and how relatively light weight, simple and beginner-friendly it is. Josh, I really like that suggestion of the modular, removable camp kitchen! 👍

@JoshtheRVNerd

Жыл бұрын

Ty!!

Love the floorplan! Being an avid outdoor/overland guy, the double over double could use a swing door on the interior wall for an option of having that outdoor kitchen or entertainment area without worrying about the bugs getting inside. It could swing and lock back to recover your storage and bunk area when not used. Like with anything there is always give and take however and that could run into you losing a bit of storage space.

yes! Yes! YES!!!!!! Finally, better late than never! I am a 64 year old Poppa, so when it's grand kis camping time, the bunk beds are perfect! Solar complimenting functionable floor plan! Perfect!!!!! Total homerun!!!! (Love the suspension) Thanks Brother, as usual, great job! Thank you

@JoshtheRVNerd

Жыл бұрын

Ty Phil

Another great option they could do with this is make a couch that switches into a bar top to eat at looking out that camp side window. They can use the adjustable bunk design to make that happen.

@JoshtheRVNerd

Жыл бұрын

I like that idea

@Playsinvain

2 ай бұрын

Now you are thinking!!

Almost Perfect, 1st Add 3' to keep it under 25', 2nd turn the queen bed (Front to back) and add a 2nd axle, will not buy a single axle, one blow out and it's done,....getting there 👍

@JoshtheRVNerd

Жыл бұрын

That could be awesome

@andrewmedeiros655

5 ай бұрын

Agreed. Not too concerned with the bed because I’m a single guy, but for sure would never tow a single axle

I really like this one. Just traded my truck worth a Nissan Frontier with 6700 total pull and tongue weight is over 670. Will be ready soon

I've never heard someone drop so many music references from so many different genres in one video, especially an RV video. But at least we all now know your playlist.

@JoshtheRVNerd

8 ай бұрын

Just don't go chasin' waterfalls, k?

Yes! Can't wait to see the double axle version of this without a slide. Love the improvements they've made like Victron stuff. Also appreciate all their higher end stuff. I'd really like to see Ember try their hand at the classic airstream layout (bedroom in the front, bathroom in the middle, then kitchen and nice viewiful living room). It'd be more for a full time working couple than a mini toy hauler. As far as the modular kitchen goes, I don't think we'd have a use for it but maybe others would! If there's already a kitchen in the rig, that's what we'd use along with gear we already have to cook outside. Keep up the great work Josh and Ember! When they perfect a slightly larger, double axle, no slide version of this guy, we'll be ready! #rvnerdherd

@JoshtheRVNerd

Жыл бұрын

😊 TY for watching and sharing. They're always gathering input on these!

I asked and Ember delivered!! Fantastic layout, really well though out. Very few campers are designed with the single, remote working traveler in mind and I’ve met many on my travels, most all choosing a van. This beats that choice in so many ways. I could care less about a built in kitchen. Would really like to know the weight specs with the max solar package. This would be key for a lot of people as most adventurers would order it this way I think.

@JoshtheRVNerd

Жыл бұрын

Agreed! It’s really a stand out offering

@cruisingmusing7987

Жыл бұрын

Solar equipment isnt heavy. My 3 foot by 5 foot house panels weigh less than 20 lbs each. I dont see a max solar option upping the weights by much unless you went fully insane on adding batteries.

@johnnyledbetter2119

Жыл бұрын

Why does a solo remote worker need a bunk house? Lol

@REGLeaf

11 ай бұрын

Yes, weight is a big consideration for me as a mostly solo traveler (sometimes wife will tag along) that uses a 2007 Toyota 4X4 4Runner 6cyl Limited w/tow package, it may not qualify to tow this Ember. Ron (in Utah)

The best RV ever! It has the bunk beds we always wanted + a SEPARATE ROOM FOR YOUNG PEOPLE. 🙂 For us it is useless to have a 2nd kitchen outdoors. Plus two couches and solar!! I totally love this. ❤

@JoshtheRVNerd

Жыл бұрын

TY Donna! Glad you like it :)

I could use this as a single's RV. I could store the teddy ruxpin mattresses in the pass thru and hang a rod in the bunk space and use it for my closet .. a dresser and even a tiny vanity could fit .. I like it! ❤

@JoshtheRVNerd

Жыл бұрын

Yeah super adjustable!

I love this one, definitely my favorite trailer under 100k. Liked it so much that I filled out their order interest form back in March (and sent a couple follow up emails), but I never even got a response from Ember. That doesn't inspire confidence in their customer service after the sale. However, I love the floor plan - the flex space with no slide is great. In the kitchen, I'd prefer the countertop be all the same level (vs. dropping down), but not a big deal. Wish they could somehow give it the same kitchen as the 170 MRB - that's a beauty! I'm a little wary of the TV location in the kitchen, seems like it would get dirty from cooking? I hope this floorplan will be a permanent part of their line up and not just a limited run - I'd like to pick one up.

@JoshtheRVNerd

Жыл бұрын

I think the "limited edition" thing they have on it is more reflecting that they are only building a limited initial run to dealerships and may not have enough to go around at first It's a full fledged member of their lineup for sure

Thank you Josh. This one is awesome. I found my new favorite. They fixed a lot of the things that I wasn't sure about before. The bathroom space is great still, the tv is a good spot, better solar equipment, and no slide to worry about. I would like the idea of a removal camp kitchen since there isn't a lot space in the kitchen. I was thinking of bringing a griddle in and a small table back there. The one thing left is I saw a few not great reviews by owners of other models. Did they fix the floor so it doesn't turn black? Are they getting better about warranty work? I saw a very concerning video where when it was fixed it was replaced the trim with nasty quarter round and they cut the floor so there was this weird seam.

This is a great trailer! I really like that back door where you can also slide things in that way, and then the big door on the side if there is something bigger. Like someone else said that bottom area could be for a dog kennel and even a couple of kitty cats! Thanks, Josh. 😊😊

@JoshtheRVNerd

Жыл бұрын

My pleasure Karen! It's a SUPER multi-functional design for sure!

I seriously love this model! It’s so versatile and fabulous!!! Wish I had the $$$ for it today! Yes on the modular removable outdoor kitchen!

LOVE IT! Love the video, the info, the revisions (because the things I didn't like they fixed😀), the dad joke humor, and the honesty. I love the solar package update and the bunk area updates ARE HUGE. The storage pass through is really gross, but the bunk/storage area makes it a tiny issue. I would really struggle hitting the canopy arm because I'm severely clumsy, and I just know that would be an expensive learning curve for me. For that reason, I'd very sadly pass on having a canopy. No temptation to break something for me, please. Not a deal breaker. The bathroom sink looks SUPER cheap, it would be replaced PRONTO! But everything else is great. I don't have any other complaints and love this floor plan. For a single person who would mostly use the bunk for some outdoor toy's, and closet/dog space, I love it. And when the toy's are in use, friends could sleep there. Seriously, good job everyone!

@JoshtheRVNerd

Жыл бұрын

TY so much for watching and sharing! They really are trying to fulfill what folks have been asking for. it just takes some time :)

This is a really cool camper. I’d love something like this

@JoshtheRVNerd

Жыл бұрын

These are so fun

@jfraz6246

Жыл бұрын

@@JoshtheRVNerd I’ve been looking for something to live out of when I’m stationed away from the family, that I can still store all my kit while having a smallish, footprint. Love the fact I can a set those bunks to make basically a walk in closet/storage, and have what equates to a studio apartment. Now it’s just figuring out the budget 🤣

You had me at No Wood. This is best construction for the money I've seen. I'm a cargo conversion guy. But this is buy. I need longer but darn this is great. 57 years RVing. YoU are the man to do a video about payload. Showing adding gas. Luggage and passengers. It could be the hit home viral video. Then the one on front and side wind load. I love this RV.

@JoshtheRVNerd

Жыл бұрын

You mean something like this? kzread.info/dash/bejne/gJ12mI9tdq_Yqbg.html

Hi Uncle Josh! Next time, would you please get on a bunk bed so we can see how challenging it is for an adult? Thanks for all you do!!

This checks most boxes for me. I don't mind the plastic bathroom sink, given all of the positive aspects. As you said, no RV is perfect.

@JoshtheRVNerd

Жыл бұрын

👍🏻

This dude is the best!! I’m new to RV shopping and these videos are soo informative and entertaining😂. The versatile bunk / storage space is amazing! I would want the option to add a batwing canopy?

@JoshtheRVNerd

Жыл бұрын

Where would you want it to mount?

I went toy hauler because the double bunks never allowed removal for dog kennels. The Wolf Pup 18rjb was just right. I love this flex design. I want area for dog kennels. With the flex "room" I can imagine some pretty neat possibilities. Planning for a couple standard sizes, but also custom offerings would appeal to a bunch of dog show and "dogs are family" nomads. Hope evolution of this model is around when I am ready to move up.

@JoshtheRVNerd

Жыл бұрын

I suspect they’re working on a big brother to this with some kind of rear ramp

Thanks for introducing this T.T. to us Josh. It has features that I have been looking for...no dinette(waste of space) and no pop-outs(something else to go wrong). I was looking at the CrossTrail 21XG because of the rear door, to be able to carry a kayak inside, along with my bicycle. I just didn't know if I want another vehicle to maintain...I already own a truck with a cap on it. The only thing I would hope to change is the standard toilet/black tank to a composting toilet such as, the "OGO" or the "Nature's Head". Eliminating the need to go to the dump station at all for extended "boon-docking". This trailer looks to be a stout build, the suspension, frame, aluminum and azdel construction. I like the fact that they have installed a two-burner propane stove top, not an induction cooktop that would drain more of the battery power. I wouldn't bother with the outdoor pull-out kitchen. I like to cook at a picnic table in the campsite, away from the rig, weather permiting. "Happy Travels!"

@JoshtheRVNerd

Жыл бұрын

This one was my pleasure for sure!

Josh, I heard this is by far the best overall AC unit in the RV market? true or false? Are they designing the same floorplan but higher GV with 2 axles for 2023? I would need to swap master bed with my upgraded RV mattress so I'm thinking that would not work with any murphy bed setup. Maybe it will fit but wasn't sure what you think? Max solar package on this unit is ?

I agree with your comments on the bathroom sink. Looks really cheap. Is there an aftermarket swaption available?

I keep coming back to this video just to look at the rear and side cargo doors. It's honestly one of the coolest thing I've seen on a camper trailer before.

@JoshtheRVNerd

Жыл бұрын

😊

I absolutely love the layout of this. It’s absolutely perfect. I would remove the cushion from the bottom bunk, remove the extender shelf and slide a rolling desk chair in there and make it an office/desk area. Totally dig this. One drawback is no oven. Not a deal breaker though.

@JoshtheRVNerd

11 ай бұрын

Thanks so much! 😊

Nearly perfect. A dual axel would make it even better!

@JoshtheRVNerd

Жыл бұрын

I am sure that’ll happen

Removable Bunks! Exactly what we've been looking for😮. But the price 😢

I love the Teddy Ruxpin reference! I always thought they were so creepy and it never occurred to me to play some good music that he could repeat 😂😎

@JoshtheRVNerd

Жыл бұрын

hahaha :)

This will be perfect for just me and my dog. The only one thing I would do. I will get rid of the bunkbeds and make that as a walk-in closet.❤❤

@JoshtheRVNerd

Жыл бұрын

You totally could with this setup!

What an amazing trailer!! I'm fairly new to the RV research, and THIS model is amazing!! ❤

@JoshtheRVNerd

Жыл бұрын

It's SUCH a fun model and series

Will the rooftop tent hatch be an option next year on this model?

@JoshtheRVNerd

Жыл бұрын

Yep yep!

I really wish some of the other manufactures copy this floor plan so the average Joe can afford these, Would love to see Jayco and or Grand Design can build a MSL version with Azdel and torsion axle to keep the cost down. This is great for a couple with two big German Shepherds.

Total awesomeness. Bunk area love it, great for people who travel to flea markets selling their treasures. Super job Ember. Have a super week, take care and stay safe.

@JoshtheRVNerd

Жыл бұрын

You do the very same Debora!!

Nice rig. I would not change anything. I just wish the price was around 40k. I would not add the camp station. Not needed. Great rig.

@JoshtheRVNerd

Жыл бұрын

Ty for watching 😊

Would love to see an electric switch to move the bunks all the way up and down like ones in a tow hauler!

@JoshtheRVNerd

Жыл бұрын

That’s also a near concept

Option Modular slide out camp kitchen, still be kayak friendly. I said option means if you want to use both beds in back the camp kitchen would have to be deployed otherwise only one bunk is usable. Just a thought it would cut down on the side load aspect of the unit.

Love the simplicity! MSL looks amazing. Victron components is a huge improvement. A modular outdoor kitchen would be a great idea! I might simplify further with a black tank delete for composting toilet, and skylight delete.

#NerdHerd 🎉

$60000 = Greed has taken over this planet😢

@TheBeingReal

3 ай бұрын

“Greed” is a bit relative. It’s also what drives the economy.

I'm only cooking inside away from bugs and elements, so an outdoor kitchen is a waste to me. Like the indoor "prep area" in the kitchen where I'd normally have my coffee maker, as well as the 2-burner stove with convection microwave. Perfect! Since childless, would use 1/2 bunks as storage. What an awesome winner topped off with a Murphy bed and sky view. Love it! (Dbl axels a plus.) Edit: I'd use the couch table attached for my kitchen prep. Forgot about that. Just LOVE this one!

@JoshtheRVNerd

Жыл бұрын

Fair enough on the camp kitchen. TY

Finally!!!! The ultimate floor plan in a small rv trailer!!!! I’ll have to save up a bit but this is it!!!

@JoshtheRVNerd

10 ай бұрын

Good pick!

I am very annoyed with this Ember!. .. Very annoyed it's not already hitched up to my truck😂

@JoshtheRVNerd

Жыл бұрын

😆

As far as the stove goes, we’ve had a camper for the last 5 years and never once did we need more than 2 burners. And the bathroom faucet/sink combo is the exact one we had in our first jayco in 2019 and it effectively keeps water off the counter the best of ever faucet combo we’ve had. It may look underwhelming but I’d choose it if I were building a camper.

@JoshtheRVNerd

Жыл бұрын

TY! Good insights here. Appreciate it

Things I would look at improving in this model • Bug netting option for keeping out the blood suckers while enjoying the fresh air. • All electric inside the RV making it fully possible to be off grid if needed with fridge, induction cooktop and even convection microwave inside. People can always use a BBQ outside to cook things if they want to use gas. • The large side door on the back side I see no reason for, instead I'd rather see a wider full size door with an optional ramp I can pull out or attach to help bring in an e-scooter and those e-bikes and other items I might want to put in that space to bring with me. Would also be great for those with mobility issues to bring in their mobility scooter for the ride. Overall I love Ember and where they are going with things, always look forward to seeing what they come out with next. With all the videos my husband and I have watched, we've drawn out out own dream design of what we'd like to see, just waiting for someone to come out with something similar... or happy to give the design to someone like Ember who can make it a reality if in exchange they'd give us one to enjoy ourselves. One can dream ^^ Keep up the great job on videos Josh! Haven't seen anyone else that makes these RVs as interesting as you do. Much appreciated ♥

@JoshtheRVNerd

4 ай бұрын

Wow ty for that! I appreciate your kind words and ty for visiting 😊

For the bunk area i like the idea of modularity for the bottom space. Its kinda built in with the adjustable system. The side door for that area would be awesome if it 'swung both ways' so to speak for a outdoor kitchen and was split in the middle such that it would flip up for prep mode, then closed and flipped down as a table for eating mode, and the split would allow it to do both at once, half and half as it were. Other swaptions for that area would be a single bunk (top) with collapsable office inserts, or since its adjacent to the loo, a side by side or AIW laundrette/dressing room could be an option. Similarly to the office, and since both bunks are adjustable in height from the floor, it could also double as a on road school room. With the right understanding and design, it could be combo'd depending on whats wanted. Deviating from the bunk area paradigm, the space itself could just be an expanded bathroom, adding in a nice full tub, swap in a full door for the smaller cargo hatch, add in a fold down step and now you have a rear entry luxury bath and you could do a mud/ dressing room and laundry. This would be a bath with two entries, one from the living, then one from the dressing, and the dressing would have a entry exit door to the outside and it would have an accordian door on the living end. It just flows all the way through efficiently for a couple. For the dual entry, the dressing room would have a jump bench for sitting, a side x side or AIW laundry machine, above which would be a mirror, medicine cab and sink so that one person showers/poos then goes to dress, the 2nd person can then poo/shower. Another option, given the height that bunk could be a secondary lounge/bar area. Given the seating area and limited kitchen counter space, this would be the perfect space for setting up a game day buffet w/o people getting in the way of the tv for seconds and refills. 60k as reported is hard to justify for the size, but not the quality or features. Its one of the confounding moments when you realize that sometimes you are paying for what you dont get. Its for people looking for the versitile features of a big travel trailer, 5thW, or even an a or c but in something only 2x the size of a larger teardrop like the bushwhacker+.

This looks pretty awesome and actually looks ALMOST exactly like what I'm looking for. I wish they would have just made it a bit lighter. I'm towing with an Expedition and having a little more headroom in my tow capacity would make me feel better.

I agree with you on the bathroom. And I think the modular camp kitchen is the way to go in the future. It seems like most buyers don’t want the camp kitchen so offering a module unit that’s removable takes care of those who want one while allowing Ember to standardize around the configuration the majority of people want.

@JoshtheRVNerd

Жыл бұрын

Standardization of the MSL concept with a "slot in" camp kitchen seems like the only way they can keep their floor plan lineup from becoming an absolute mess in my view

A modular camp kitchen could be a game changer if it's done well. I'd trust Ember to do it correctly over most other manufacturers. They've shown a true dedication to innovation. I've gone down the rabbit hole of truck cap camper builds and a lot of them have pull out kitchens that are fantastic. If I were Ember, I'd look to those as an inspiration. I know these things aren't cheap but they do strike me as something that would put up with a lot of abuse and last for years. In camping, you pick two of these three on every decision: light weight, inexpensive, well built. You never get all 3!

@JoshtheRVNerd

Жыл бұрын

They've slowed down their development to really dial in the new stuff they're doing. It's exciting to see!

Wow, this is almost the perfect camper. SIngle guy here, rarely need more the space for two. But I DO need office space, and too many of these size campers just fill the back full of bunkbeds, this system is perfect! I can set up my office on the lower bunk (sans pads of course), and use the top for storage for all my tools and such. yum yum! seriously, this is a great camper. On the note of the "modular cooking unit" Idea. I love it and Id support it and pay for it. if I'm NOT using my office, being able to have a cooking setup right there to pull out would be great.

@JoshtheRVNerd

Жыл бұрын

Thank you for watching!

Thanks Josh for a great showing of the Ember Overland 190MSL Off Road Travel Trailer. This is practically perfect! Now I don’t feel the need for a full blown toy hauler, and the sleeping capacity is totally on point! No cons from me on this one. By the way, I checked out what a bumper dumper was, lol MOST interesting indeed, and practical 🥴

@JoshtheRVNerd

Жыл бұрын

Hahahaha Yeah it’s something you can’t under

Hey Josh, couple of things/corrections on the Truma stuff as I have a FLX... the remote can set the temperature, but it's not the only way. The Truma "CP Plus" control panel next to the Ember control on the cabinet inside the door can also control the AC temperature (and frankly is a little easier to do so) and I'd assume they have it set up for the combi system too whereas the remote would only work the AC. Also, the Truma remote is deceiving as it has a 90's style cell phone slide down function with more advanced controls. Lastly, that black circle thing on the wall is an IR receiver for the truma remote (and I was told, but can't confirm) it's the thermostat sensor to read what the current temp is. There's also a truma IR sensor on the AC itself, so you can point the remote at either the dot on the wall or the dot on the AC to control it. If you have anyone buy a rig with Truma equipment, highly encourage them to read the Truma manuals as they're actually really well written (and easily accessible on their website too - I've saved each to the files section on my phone so I don't have to lug the weight around in the rig).

@JoshtheRVNerd

Жыл бұрын

_Really_ appreciate the info. Thank you so much!

Love that you are so honest and complete in your descriptions and reviews! Like this rv with no slide.

@JoshtheRVNerd

Жыл бұрын

TY Alicia! :)

Thank you for some great information and updates. I like the idea of different audio options in the rvs. Every RV I have owned had terrible audio and tvs .

@JoshtheRVNerd

8 ай бұрын

Glad it was helpful!

This is a great rig but the best one still yet to come. A 26ft no slide, double axle MSL. North-south bed, a lot more storage/counter space rig. It will be great with two pantry/hanging closets with adjustable height shelves. Regarding the stove, it seems very close to the wall. Can you use normal size pots and pans, or do you need to buy small camping size? I don't remember if it has a spill guard on the wall next to the stove. I also hope Ember standardize the rail under the awning for a galvalume table and for hanging a griddle. Another thing that should be standard is an outside TV mount with TV connectors. Daddy can have peace inside while kids watch tv outside, or we can entertain people outside so they don't have the need to go inside. Especially if tracking dirt. If the ROK that is cat 10 offroader, has an outside TV, why not this cat 6-7 offroader. This might be for overlanding but, it is a family rig. Like people who buy the F-150 Raptors, live in the city and take it offroad .0001% of the times, the rig may see RV parks more often than real off the beaten path isolated locations. Does the solar package prevents these rigs to have the roof bars for a rooftop cargo box or tent? All my preferred RVs (e.g. Minilite 2507S and 2513S. Also the Ember's MDB models, WinnebagoEkko, etc.) have an outside kitchen. That's my personal thing. So that modular kitchen must be something really good.

@JoshtheRVNerd

Жыл бұрын

Quad wheel would be amazing

Josh, you were on FIRE with this review! We all enjoyed this one. Cool RV. Side Note: At 20:40, the yellow reflection from the building wall casts a really cool color on the RV. The black and gold hue looks really nice; possibly a limited edition special color release.

@JoshtheRVNerd

Жыл бұрын

That’s the Emberglow 😉

lots of good features, great for a couple, Bunk beds would have to go to utilize better storage options using the already built in wall supports in that area.. Thats also a hefty price tag for a single axle, no slide RV. I would be happier with a double axle version at that price point. Still on my top 10 wish list though. Oh, and NO outside silly speakers.....

I'm already really considering one for my next trailer, since it looks like it'd be reasonably Ranger or Tacoma towable. I do like dual axles, though, for peace of mind, and the 17MKE is also a really nice unit. Sometimes it's hard to have _too many_ good options.

@JoshtheRVNerd

Жыл бұрын

lol I've heard that a time or two before. It's nice to be able to be a little picky about what you get for your money at least

This is the one I was always hoping for. Now I just need to save up and hope you all open a Bish's RV near So Cal 😆. Thank you for always bringing us the latest and greatest.

@JoshtheRVNerd

Жыл бұрын

We need a store in California for sure

Great coverage on this ground breaking RV! Love it. Only one suggestion though, make the AC cover in bright white. Everything else seems just perfect.👍🏻

@JoshtheRVNerd

Жыл бұрын

Good call!

This is what I want! Plan on hitting the road for a year or two with my dog. This is perfect

Great video Josh! I noticed that GRAB HANDLE next to the shower!! Awesome for us OLDER folks!

Quite possibly the most entertaining RV video I've ever watched. With all the music references my son came in and said "what's going on in here" I was laughing so hard. but he was feeding me the Coors lights soo.

@JoshtheRVNerd

Жыл бұрын

Silver Bullet!!

Holy crap!! I think this might just be the one!!! Other than the lack of a 2-way fridge, this one seems to come closer to perfect for a lot of dry camping, than about anything else I've seen for 2023. I am so glad I watch all of your videos. Thanks again, Josh!!!! 😀

@JoshtheRVNerd

Жыл бұрын

2way fridges are leaving the industry quickly. One supplier stopped making them and the only other one jacked up their pricing so you won’t see many of them for much longer

@stopbreathereset958

Жыл бұрын

@@JoshtheRVNerdYou have contacts with the manufacturers. Please, please, PLEASE, ask them to start making them repairable. Spending $2000 to replace a fridge when one component breaks is ridiculous. Not having a two way refer keeps me from running out to buy that unit. It’s perfect except for the Furrion refer. Instant no for me.

@birdie9680

Жыл бұрын

@@JoshtheRVNerd I know, right?? Everything is changing fast in the R.V. world recently it seems. It makes me glad I don't have your job! Thanks again, Josh!!! I will definitely keep watching!!!

Love The Walk Around 👍👍👍👍👍

Now we are getting closer to perfection. I see Ember got smart and rotated the toilet to face the sink cabinet for both sides leg room. But I think they missed the boat on putting the kitchen on the road side. It was much better with the original kitchen on the curb side as in the MSL slide version. They should have kept the same layout as the slide version, but just put in a narrower two person fixed dinette on that curb side. The other only deficiency is the rear door - it should be about 12 inches higher to roll in an electric bicycle. For my preference, a single full width bunk on the "happy jack" system with large area toys and supplies storage space available with bunk raised to the ceiling would be great. The width of the trailer outside at 7-1/2 feet is ideal to see straight back along the trailer sides using the tow vehicles rear view mirrors. PS: I went and viewed the bunk house with slide version at lazy daze near tampa (they had a new condition pre-owned one) in Late march. Unfortunately, it was the non euro window version made during the window supply shortage, or i would have bought it. I do prefer the msl large side door. Some day the right model at the right price is going to be mine.

@captaindanield5827

Жыл бұрын

I second the post of a previous reply "Yes a two person dinette - but on the road side - same curb side as the bunk house model.

If I had the waiting time and the money this would be the trailer for me!!!! I'll mention what I would do with the Murphy bed in a bit, but first the sinks: The bathroom sink is a good size, good shape, and the faucet sticks out over the middle so you can actually get your hands or other things under the stream of water. Good design! I would like a little more distance between the side of the stove and the wall to the side, but I would accept this spacing and learn to live with it. I really prefer square or rectangular sinks because it's easier to fit things into them to wash. I would take the round sink, use it a little, and then likely replace it once I found a square sink that fit. Please consider a larger diameter sewer hose tube so we don't have to remove the chunky ends and stash them someplace else. Murphy bed: since I would likely be the only person sleeping on it I would replace the folding queen mattress with a nice twin xl mattress. The depth provided for storing the folded queen mattress should be sufficient for decent mattress height, and it looks like the tilt-up panel has enough width to accommodate a twin width. This would allow me to have my better mattress and still murphy it up out of the way. 😎 I can see a very nice dining room/office set-up where the bunks are. Lower bunk in single mode with the spare panel and mattress stashed in the attic (aka upper bunk). Folding chair at the desk/table (lower bunk). Everything can move about and be reconfigured for guests, in true 1920s bungalow fashion.

@JoshtheRVNerd

Жыл бұрын

The mattress idea for solo camping is interesting. May make leaving the bed made easier

Such a versatile trailer. The optional camp kitchen would be a great idea, then you could use or remove it. Even be neater if it was also highly customizable, like maybe you want a small 12v fridge out there, but just a large space for the flat top grill to store. And if it was shorter than desk height you could still have a desk for work inside and a bunk above it. The loss of that storage in front kinda sucks that’s for sure

@JoshtheRVNerd

11 ай бұрын

Deal below with shelf above seems handy

“Like a good neighbor stay over there” is definitely my motto. 😂

@JoshtheRVNerd

Жыл бұрын

hahaha

man it must be so nice to be on a level in life where you can actually get things like this. this thing is like the perfect solo camper.

Love it! NO SLIDE! WooHoo!

@JoshtheRVNerd

Жыл бұрын

:) :)

Like it, and Ember even contacted me about this model because I was one of the people who suggested the floor plan. Yet for me they have to work on getting their dealer network going. Their dealer here in the Maritimes will not carry Embers unless through special order and payment up front.

@JoshtheRVNerd

Жыл бұрын

A "dealer" that won't stock them isn't a dealer in my book..

About time!! Should have started with that one given the leaky slide issues.

great layout. I think just inside the front door, the fire extinguisher and switches can swap space so fire extinguisher won't block the path. Plus it is easier for people to turn on/off the switch without door fully opened. Just my 2 cents.

@JoshtheRVNerd

Жыл бұрын

👍🏻 ty