This RUINED Photography

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Did It Ruin Photography ? - Truth About Turning Pro
This video was inspired by a video I saw that ‪@LucyLumen‬ made a few weeks back. Go check out her channel
In this video, I'm going to be discussing the pros and cons of turning pro as a photographer. I've been asked this question dozens of times, so I decided to create this video to answer it for you!
If you're a beginner or intermediate photographer, this video is for you. I'll be discussing the pros and cons of turning pro and why it may or may not be the right decision for you. I'll also give you some tips on how to minimize the chances of ruining your career as a photographer.
In this video, we're asking the question: does becoming a professional photographer ruin your photography enjoyment?
There's a lot of controversy online about whether or not becoming a professional photographer ruins your enjoyment of photography. So in this video, we're asking the question and diving into the answers.
We'll discuss the pros and cons of becoming a professional photographer, and whether or not it really ruins your enjoyment of photography. We hope you enjoy the video, and if you have any questions feel free to let us know!
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  • @TinHouseStudioUK
    @TinHouseStudioUK Жыл бұрын

    Head over to here if you want a portfolio review www.tinhouse-studio.com/product/portfolio-review/

  • @LucyLumen
    @LucyLumen Жыл бұрын

    😮 my heart skipped a beat when I heard my name mentioned in this video!!!! Thank you so much for the shout out and for calling me a professional creator, it really made me feel like one hearing someone else say! I have been enjoying your channel recently and getting a lot of value out of it, thank you! Love Lucy xx

  • @LyndonPatrickSmith
    @LyndonPatrickSmith Жыл бұрын

    For me the key to maintaining motivation/love in the creative arts is to never stop doing personal projects. I spent 15 years as a music producer/engineer, and while my studio was successful, somewhere along the line I stopped doing personal projects. The end result was burnout. For the next decade I mainly did photography, and promised myself that I would never get to the point of picking up a camera and only shooting for money. The result was no burnout, just the usual ebbs and flows of business and life. Personal projects are the key.

  • @DamianKleiman

    @DamianKleiman

    11 ай бұрын

    Totally agree with this!

  • @CharlesGaluski
    @CharlesGaluski Жыл бұрын

    I want to thank you so much for this video.. I’ve been watching your videos for several weeks, subscribed to your channel here and joined your FB group, so I also want to thank you for all of your efforts to help other creatives succeed. You cheerfully make videos with no hype, no nonsense, but yet with plenty of positive attitude and that is tremendously refreshing. Looking forward to more, while catching up with the stuff you’ve already put out.

  • @ActualCounterfactual
    @ActualCounterfactual Жыл бұрын

    Anything I have done to excess killed my desire ... I used to love concerts and music, then i started working in the music industry, and it killed my interest + joy. Same with photography, when I had to shoot when I did not want to, this gradually also killed my joy. So TODAY... I get more joy watching your youtube videos than shooting for others 😅

  • @RobBrens

    @RobBrens

    Жыл бұрын

    I feel like it's the industry itself that kills the joy and not the excess 😂 but I'm only speaking for myself

  • @autofocusrossswansea9362
    @autofocusrossswansea9362 Жыл бұрын

    Truth for me is that, if you've been a leisure photographer for long enough, you kind of are professional, in the sense of quality of work. Strictly speaking a professional is one who makes cash out of the job so being 'kind of' professional means that, on the photography side of things, I do everything i can to get that perfect shot every time. Read lots of reviews, look at lots of images by others, and generally improve myself. I have a good business background and I could have gone into photography as a pro, but like the majority of would be pros, I dont live in a major city and wouldn't have the clientelle to sustain a well paid business. I've been at it since about 89 and for about 15 years, never took a photograph as kids and business got in the way. Rediscovered photography ten years ago and now I love it, but, its so different to the film days. Photoshop skills, all the camera adjustments we never had with film, its pretty awesome now. I am envious of young phototraphers just getting started. With film, we had shutter speed and aperture, and manual focus, and the rest was done by the lab! I much prefer it now, and, if I were just getting started, I would be thinking of going pro a lot more than I ever did back in the late 80's.

  • @pauljenkin297
    @pauljenkin297 Жыл бұрын

    I've only recently found your KZread channel and, quite frankly, it's a breath of fresh air compared to many of those I've watched who do little else than plug gear, provide 'top tips' and sell books / prints / presets. I'm in my 60s and have spent 43 years as a 'desk-jockey'. When I was preparing to leave school in the late 70s, there were 2 main options: work in a factory or work in an office. I was rubbish when it came to 'making stuff' so I ended up in an office. 6-7 years before leaving school, I discovered I loved photography so, what I REALLY wanted to do as a profession was be a photographer. There was no internet. I wanted to be a staffer for something like National Geographic but, due to some devastating family circumstances, I needed to find regular, gainful employment - which meant starting on the bottom rung of the ladder. To supplement my (very) modest income, I shot weddings. However, this was a long time pre-digital and the work involved in getting to the wedding venue, shooting the wedding (and then the wedding 'breakfast' and evening function), getting home, having the negs processed / printed, building the album / doing the calligraphy and then shoe-horning the fee for the photos, album and extra prints for family members made that side of photography less enjoyable and less lucrative than working 40 hours+ a week in an office. I'm now at the point of retirement. Photography (landscape, travel and documentary / street) has been my lifelong hobby. It's eaten a fair bit of my salary over the years but given me enormous pleasure. I hope I'm wrong but AI-created images (as distinct from photographs) will adversely impact commercial image-making generally. However, I can also see those intelligent and creative enough to harness what AI augmentation technology offers, benefiting greatly. Overall, photography has been a big part of my life. I wish I'd been able to do it successfully as a profession but was never an option and that boat has now sailed.

  • @r3t0r1
    @r3t0r1 Жыл бұрын

    Great, great, great video!! Thanks for your content!❤️

  • @frederikboving
    @frederikboving Жыл бұрын

    Another great video with content you don't find anywhere else! Loved your analogy with the second kid coming along. My wife recently went from 9-5 to consulting and her experience was that suddenly making (sufficient) money took up a very large mental space. I fear I would end up the same place and as I am a decent photographer but a less decent business man, I think I would end up the same place. Have met lots of professional photographers who were very cynical about their job and didn't want to develop anymore - for them photography was just another 9-5 job. I think the differentiator here is how well reflected your decision is when you go for photography as your full time endeavor. And that you set off time to develop your business and not just milk what is already working. Just like Scott clearly does. Great channel. Great inspiration. Oh, btw, I drive a 11 year old citroen C3!

  • @rufuscrann76
    @rufuscrann76 Жыл бұрын

    Just found you recently. Just made the decision that "I am a photographer" because of you. You have inspired me to follow my love for photography. Please keep making these videos, I relate to what and how you explain stuff. Thank you!

  • @jmorty52
    @jmorty52 Жыл бұрын

    Absolutely a great video. I needed this!!!

  • @Guitar_Sounds
    @Guitar_Sounds Жыл бұрын

    Thanks for your enthusiastic talks.. definitely a far cry from gear reviews! Well Done!

  • @alstuart8801
    @alstuart8801 Жыл бұрын

    As a retired Adland art director.. i love your channel.. it reminds me of the photographers i used to comission. I now do photography for me. Keep up the good work 🙂

  • @ghigsmartinez
    @ghigsmartinez Жыл бұрын

    I have commercial photography as my career. I have wildlife, astro and landscape photography as my hobby. I have film photography as my artistic outlet. So yeah, I love photography

  • @terencelaubach6565
    @terencelaubach6565 Жыл бұрын

    Excellent video.Solid looking crew, great light in an amazing space and everybody gets to eat. Right on!

  • @vers1fier
    @vers1fier Жыл бұрын

    Ok, now you're convinced me to keep going and make it a career! Cheers! 👍

  • @dangilmore9724
    @dangilmore9724 Жыл бұрын

    I enjoy my job as a freelance photographer. I especially like taking on jobs with crazy customers who have crazy ideas. I look at it as a challenge in which there is a problem to solve. Most of all, I consider my work to be "play" for the most part, even the mundane parts.

  • @philipvaughan1027
    @philipvaughan1027 Жыл бұрын

    great advice and an enjoyable video- I'm getting back into my darkroom, dusting off the blad and creating some still lifes.

  • @TheNewArtSchool
    @TheNewArtSchool Жыл бұрын

    Love the video! What a coincidence! I was going to become a professional classical musician (violin) too.

  • @anneliesesullivan-wilson1038
    @anneliesesullivan-wilson1038 Жыл бұрын

    Thank you for your insights. At what point do you realise you should make that leap....I have always said to myself being professional would kill the fun for me, so thanks for spinning that idea on its head for me 😊

  • @donnietobasco4526
    @donnietobasco4526 Жыл бұрын

    Scott I’m a college student and photography has been a creative outlet of mine for the past year or so. To be honest when I first watched one of your videos I thought you were a bit pretentious. But I realized that you knew what you were talking about and that you have a large body of sound advice on your channel that is definitely underrated. I’ve slowly been changing how I think of photography from a commercial and a personal sense. I really appreciate this video and all of the other ones of course. My business cards just came in the mail today. You’re definitely on the come up. Oh yeah, what is that song at the end?

  • @donaldoswald8754
    @donaldoswald8754 Жыл бұрын

    Very wise, thought-provoking stuff, Scott. Love Tin House Studio videos. 👏

  • @vperalta
    @vperalta Жыл бұрын

    This was an inspiring video for me. I am semi-retired, so I have the time. My problem is motivation to get started. Photography has been my hobby, on and off for 20 years. I need to get off my backside and do something about it.

  • @gransha3
    @gransha3 Жыл бұрын

    I'm a self employed real estate photographer. At the weekends my 'hobby' is landscape photography, and for that I have a Canon 5DSR.

  • @noahheinrich6382
    @noahheinrich6382 Жыл бұрын

    I’d love to see a video on how you come up with your concepts for shoots. Thanks!

  • @JMIMEDIALLC
    @JMIMEDIALLC Жыл бұрын

    It's the end time-lapse for me. Love hearing you wax philosophical. Cheers

  • @VirtualTourPhotographer
    @VirtualTourPhotographer Жыл бұрын

    Love the lunch segment! 🤣- but that said, it is a very important topic. I have to admit that with my type of photography, there are times when it's felt a bit flat. After all, what I create is very 'utilitarian' content for the most part. That doesn't mean it's not important. What I do impacts the lives of thousands of people every day in a very good way. But for me to retain the joy in photography, I have to do lots of the 'other stuff' related or connected to both photography and my business. One of those things is networking. Getting out and talking with new people is important. The other is going for a bushwalk with my camera(s) and just slowing everything down. What makes me happiest though is the sincere thanks I get from clients. That is what drives me more than anything else. If I can help them achieve their goals through images that move 'the needle, I'm happy with that. Then there are all the people who benefit from what I do that I'll never hear from... and that's ok like someone who was able to leverage a virtual tour to navigate their wheelchair in a building they didn't know could be accessible. That's very rewarding too. So it doesn't have to be 'the art' all the time. The utility can bring joy, too.

  • @The_CGA
    @The_CGA Жыл бұрын

    The thing left out here is that when you have “other job,” your loved ones, personal care, and everything else has to compete and can often feel “left behind” when one pushes for more time to take photo

  • @donaldmcleod6324
    @donaldmcleod6324 Жыл бұрын

    8:16 Hi, I enjoy your channel. It's very informative for me. I started taking photos at 65 yrs old and I wish I had discovered this artform much earlier in life.

  • @josephpaul2742
    @josephpaul2742 Жыл бұрын

    Enjoyed your video... thanks for the pat on the back to keep going ... and your skin tone is within a 1/4 stop , so I can watch again .. cheers ! Joseph

  • @izabelaj2310
    @izabelaj2310 Жыл бұрын

    I spent 3 years doing part time foundation degree in photography and after graduation I put my camera away. I felt less confident as a photographer than before the degree, and this did in a way "ruined" photography for me. It's been 10 years since I finished Uni and only now I started to enjoy taking photographs again.

  • @mmlotaief
    @mmlotaief Жыл бұрын

    I really like the bit at the end. You know , the bit after the serious talk :)

  • @danienelphoto
    @danienelphoto Жыл бұрын

    About 7 years ago, the passion really started waning for me, as I was pro for 15 years by then. Also, there were a couple of uphill battles in my career that was not helping. I kind of just twaddled along, and through the time of 2020 it gave me time for re-evaluation. Also in this time I started getting back into my old film and analogue gear. ... and then I started making videos of it.... and my passion is back. It bleeds back into my work (I've been using my analogue lenses quite a bit), but it all just re-ignited what was always there. I've also made some better business decisions that has helped. Poverty does not help one to love photography! I also have other creative outlets, one being as a musician, and I do believe that helps, as it takes the pressure of photography to be a panacea for my creative needs.

  • @oleleclos
    @oleleclos Жыл бұрын

    I’m with you all the way, and especially on the brave point you make - that we’re actually talking about love. Like romantic love, love of a vocation isn’t something that wears out easily, on the contrary it usually grows through the up and downs it meets. Even when commercial photography wore me to the bone, I didn’t stop loving it but was lucky to be able to take my creativity to another field. Actually it IS a lot like romantic love - if you’re afraid of losing it, you’ll never have it. Be brave and don’t let fear ru(i)n your life.

  • @2DogAle
    @2DogAle Жыл бұрын

    Good subject and good video. I am 62 and getting ready to retire from my 9 - 5 job because I never jumped in and tried to make a go of a photography career. There are a bunch of reasons but that doesn’t’t matter now. My problem was I didn’t trust myself to make it successful and be able to financially support myself and my family so I never went ahead and gave it a go. I just thought I was good, and not great at it so how could I make a living. So, I told myself things like “I didn’t want to shoot weddings and corporate head shots all the time” and that I just wanted to be an artist and not worry about the financial side of it, stupid but that’s how I thought. So, here I am, now getting up in age, and finally will be able to go out and just photograph what ever I want… not a great way of becoming an artist right? So, I am glad there are folks out there that are able to tell others that they can do both and your love of photography hasn’t gone away.

  • @RobTrendiak
    @RobTrendiak Жыл бұрын

    I whole heartedly agree with you. My love for photography has only grown. If I am having a bad day but I am shooting that day, it turns my whole day around. Just curious tho, do you have 2+ kids? What you said is true! However, kids take up soooooo much time and effort that it pulls me away from my photography and I am dealing with bitterness towards then for pulling me away from photography. That then leads to me feeling guilty for being bitter. It’s a super frustrating revolving door.

  • @videoyoplait
    @videoyoplait Жыл бұрын

    Love what I do for clients. And yes. Editing is one of the best parts. It’s where you can inject a bit of yourself into your client’s photos. Hehe. But today was doing some street shooting in Japan. Love it! And with my work camera and a 35mm too!

  • @leirumf5476
    @leirumf5476 Жыл бұрын

    The thing I feel the most is that, there's a HUGE difference between liking to take photos and liking all-the-things-that-involve-selling-photos. For example, you could be an amazing photographer and constantly create amazing and groundbreaking work, but if you don't like marketing yourself, or expose your work so it reaches more people, doing shoots at demand or shooting the things that sell, odds are that you won't enjoy being a professional, because being a professional photographer isn't just taking good photos, it's everyone you need to do to make a sustainable business around your good photos.

  • @neeyal

    @neeyal

    4 ай бұрын

    It's a good point but I think his is comparing doing those things, to doing another full time job, and if you enjoy the one you have, cheers.

  • @MrSpoomples
    @MrSpoomples Жыл бұрын

    Trying to break into professional photography here so I can spend more time doing what I love. The hardest part is doing all the businessy type of tasks that I never have to worry about in my current office job. Was there a point where you felt like that type of work was worth the risk, going from project manager to full time photographer?

  • @ruibandeirafotografia
    @ruibandeirafotografia Жыл бұрын

    product/commercial photography was my first passion in photography, and i still love it, but because i started as a musician i also make concert photography, but for some time i fell that i lost the passion for concert photography, in the past going to shoot a concert was an amazing feeling, now it feels just like another job, and i think it affect my concert images, now i just dont feel the same thrill to try to make different images . In product photography i still fell the thrill to work the light and to create the image that i have on my mind, or to discover a new image when trying to make the image that i have in my head. yes, some time i have to do some boring shoots but every now and then i have some jobs that allow me to create freely, or i can always do some portfolio images just to feed the passion. I have ADHD so its always a struggle to to be focus on one job and to do it from start to finish, but whe i do product/commercil its like i dont have ADHD, when i start working on one image i just cant stop.

  • @TimG2553
    @TimG2553 Жыл бұрын

    I went through it I forget why I loved my photography it because every image had to make me money if it didn’t why take it. It’s why I stepped away in the end luckily I rekindled my passion just a hobby photography now

  • @philliphickox4023
    @philliphickox4023 Жыл бұрын

    Decades ago I was on the path to being professional, but life changed directions and I gave it away and I still have my 35mm and 6x6 cameras, plus my black and white developing kit. End of last year I obtained my first DSLR and I have since bought 2 more, I am all in, I have immersed myself. The hardest part for me has been learning the new technology and how to use it. I want to get better and improve with my images and I am doing new things like a ongoing project with still life. The high end lens I am planning on buying, just got figure out how to afford them. Currently I am shooting some events and wildlife and planning my approaches around that and the seasons.

  • @oneuniversestudios-6206
    @oneuniversestudios-6206 Жыл бұрын

    Hey mate, been shooting for 14 years in both photography first then video second. Photography just sota happened for me. before photography I really wanted to join the special forces, SAS in Australia. Now ive shot for so many major brand like your self. Love your work and how you operate. I know a Director and DOP in Brisbane who is technical, creative and works with huge brands shooting Car TVC. What I've learnt from you and him is the following: do what you love and be world class at it.

  • @Raymond23rdOBC
    @Raymond23rdOBC Жыл бұрын

    love the time lapse!

  • @cecilsharps
    @cecilsharps Жыл бұрын

    At the end of the day it is fear of failure that keeps people from transitioning from semi-pro to full time working pro. A house note, couple of kids can be huge motivators in keeping that 9 to 5. The fact that 3 out of 4 small businesses fail within the first year is something that people learn when they start doing the research. And honestly outside of a major market there are far fewer opportunities for a working pro no matter the niche. I think most of the resentment you are discussing is from people that were afraid to attempt that transition. I know i was. I wish i had taken that jump. I wonder how my life would have turned out if i'd taken that leap.

  • @roydressel
    @roydressel Жыл бұрын

    Back in the early 80s, I had two kids and a job selling cameras that was fun and challenging, but it didn't pay all that well, so I decided to start shooting weddings; then I found I loved it, (pretty girls and free food), and I get paid for it. I also loved its "business" side and realized I "must" do this full-time. Took me some time, but I was able to go full-time thirty years ago this summer. As you said, the business is my hobby. Photography is still exciting, and the industry is still exciting. The thing I love in both Photography and business is you never stop learning. Now, there have been hard times, wondering how I am going to make my studio's rent payment and a couple times thinking that maybe I should work for somebody else, but that thought didn't last for long. I like what the motivational speaker Jim Roam aid when his mom once asked him how he could go to work each day and not know how much he was going to make; his reply was; "I don't know how you can go to work and know how much you are going to make" It's as much of a rush when someone calls out of the blue and books a big job, as when things come together to make the perfect photo. Thanks for the videos, I enjoy them.

  • @STILLWILLPHOTO
    @STILLWILLPHOTO Жыл бұрын

    Scott... STOP confirming my feelings instead of dog piling on the train of people telling me that I can't have a job for a hobby and a hobby for a job.

  • @rideathome
    @rideathome Жыл бұрын

    I think most people just don't love it enough to dedicate the time needed to make it a career. The time lapse is awesome btw

  • @benoitpigeon487
    @benoitpigeon487 Жыл бұрын

    I think it depends on what you photograph. In advertising, shoots can vary day to day and it never gets boring. There is a point when you have enough equipment and knowledge that you can shoot with so many options, you just expect the client to challenge you with something different all the time. Plus we are never working "alone" and at a minimum the client gives us instructions over the phone, text or email. It's like having someone feeding us with challenges.

  • @thdiniz
    @thdiniz Жыл бұрын

    Thinking about it the other day I got to the conclusion that the hard part of working with photography is the having-to-make-money part of it. It drains creativity, it limits what you can accomplish, it causes compromises, and the need to sell what people want to pay for and not what you actually want to create...

  • @jimmason8502

    @jimmason8502

    Жыл бұрын

    That's why it's called work lol. I know several pro photographers and making a living is always tough: the travel, dealing with idiot art directors, shooting assignments that are boring. But every now and then they get one that allows them to be creative and really shine and that pays well, and that's why they're still doing it 30 years later.

  • @NomadicLiving
    @NomadicLiving Жыл бұрын

    As one of those who commented about the hobby potentially being ruined by turning pro, after giving it more thought, I suppose it depends on why you love the 'hobby'. Is it the act itself or would turning pro take away from some other hidden need? I remember a while back you did a video on how you changed your direction from portrait to food photography as opposed to just giving up.

  • @trancer03
    @trancer03 Жыл бұрын

    I started photography as a business when i found out that the type of photography i was trying to market myself for has no budget anymore. Fashion Photography, may it rest in peace. My photography as a business is types of photography that the fashion industry is not looking for but i no longer need to care about. Now i just need to find a way to get more bookings as a family photographer

  • @ViewportPlaythrough

    @ViewportPlaythrough

    7 ай бұрын

    hi, i am someone who is trying to figure out if photography business is still viable on my end of the world. can you please explain what you mean by "theres no budget anymore"? i thought fashion photography is supposed to be one of the untouchables? (im not going for fashion photography, but i would like to learn you insights on the business side of it)

  • @trancer03

    @trancer03

    7 ай бұрын

    @@ViewportPlaythrough You will find this article very enlightening. Google search this article by Rachel Rebibo: Why I quit Fashion

  • @kevinrichards1667
    @kevinrichards1667 Жыл бұрын

    Great video im seeing at least one Scott body double your influence is amazing

  • @sourcebased
    @sourcebased Жыл бұрын

    Thanks! If approached the right way and with a clear vision what you want to achieve, the sky is the limit. You „just“ take original pictures of food but make it a well paying job, hire people for your shoots… your work is a great example that photography is far from being dead in the beginning age of AI. I happen to really love my job as a database professional, but photography is becoming much more than a hobby for me. I feel a strong urge to create real art and am in the confusing process of developing my vision for that. So things are great as they are for me, maybe one day I can make photography my second job, if what I create starts paying. ❤

  • @johnjewell219
    @johnjewell21910 ай бұрын

    Hi Scott greetings from Australia.what were you using the blue paddling pool for?.was it as a reflection device or to keep the floor clean . Regards John

  • @peter_marcelli
    @peter_marcelli10 ай бұрын

    Many of my gigs are not that glamorous, but they pay well, so I just try to make the most fun out of each gig and make personal projects when I can to stay true to my creative needs.

  • @bl4841
    @bl4841 Жыл бұрын

    I somewhat compartmentalize photography. Digital is 90% of work. When I want to shoot for fun I easily switch gears roll up some black and white film and create the projects that interest me. My passion just deepens and deepens, and without photography I just wouldn't have the lifestyle I wanted or the knowledge of what it takes the create a business. Photography has given me everything good in my life

  • @thomasgoetze
    @thomasgoetze Жыл бұрын

    I enjoyed the last minutes very much.

  • @zerixos
    @zerixos Жыл бұрын

    Hi Scott, great you are talking about this, and I think this subject is probably the most importent reason to become a pro photographer or not. I’ve started as a hobbyist when I was pretty young so doing what I enjoyed it was a simple choice as a carrier path so I studied photography and by the time I finished my studie I had a job doing it full time. When I see your video’s it looks like you enjoy the type of photography you do, and this could be a key factor why you still enjoy it as a pro?
 The people that are saying that going pro could ruin your love for photography might be people that don’t enjoy the type of photography they do, and this might not be the same thing they did when they started off to become a pro. When I take myself as a example I enjoy (urban) landscape photography the most, but my professional work is commercial work, and to be honest, I enjoy it less than being out in the field shooting landscapes. Going pro could mean you are forced to adjust your photographic path, because you need to make money. To me, being forced to do something really takes away enjoyment. That said, I still prefer doing photography than a boring 9 to 5 job, but I also enjoy a lot of hobbies and I’ve noticed that photography wasn’t one of them anymore. This changed when I started shooting analog again as it feels like a different hobby all together but this is something people should consider. Maybe I should have sticked to my landscape photography? Anyway Thanks for the video, it is great to hear other people’s thought about this matter and especially people that still do have the same enjoyment als they had when doing it for a hobby.

  • @Mathadder
    @Mathadder Жыл бұрын

    It might just be me, and it might get more views when you do it, but I don’t love the clickbait titles/images, but I love your content itself.

  • @andrefelixstudio2833
    @andrefelixstudio2833 Жыл бұрын

    I really loved photography the most fantastic thing was I was able to take my love for it and turn it into a real job I got to photograph and go places all because I was good with the camera even my dad now realizes photography is a real job! I also enjoy being famous because of my photography!

  • @tipptoggy
    @tipptoggy Жыл бұрын

    25 years ago I walked away from a good lecturing job to go into print media. I’ve been a freelance ever since, dividing my time between writing articles and taking photographs. My income has probably dropped by 40% (I’d hate to do the maths) but my well being has rocketed. Don’t get me wrong, it’s not always easy, some jobs are a slog, you have to tell yourself the next assignment will be different and when it comes around grab the opportunity. If there is a key, I'd say you have to be able to deal with people, be a good listener and always deliver on time.

  • @SirFency
    @SirFency Жыл бұрын

    I am were you were in the beginning. I want the freedom photography gives you. My wife and I have so much fun driving around, taking photos, taking videos, scouting locations, and planning shoots, BUT, I have to pay my bills so I don't know how to transition. We have high debt right now and both make good money but we need that money to pay off these debits. I hope we can figure out how to make some money with photography and build our portfolio in a time that allows us to make the transition before we are too old. If we knew how to monetize the little bit we do it might help.

  • @vincentmulder70
    @vincentmulder70 Жыл бұрын

    Very interesting. To do photography as a job it is important to shoot pictures that other people want or need to buy. And you need to love taking those kind of pictures. Imagine sitting in a shopping mall, taking photo's of kids sitting on a basket...if you dont like shopping malls, kids, their parents etc... Or Photographing weddings if you dont the pressure.

  • @ozarksdigitalcreations9254
    @ozarksdigitalcreations9254 Жыл бұрын

    For me, when I decided to take my passion for photography to the level where I wanted to turn it onto a business it changed everything. The people in my area area only interested in the cliche boho family portraits with the over used orange preset, weddings and senior photos. With that not being what I enjoy shooting, I had zero support from friends and family, a struggle to find clients without traveling hours away to try and build a proper portfolio for my niche and my wife and family telling me that I made a mistake because I wasn't profitable yet. It took my love for just shooting and mastering my weaknesses because at that point everything was about money.

  • @Blakelyboy21392
    @Blakelyboy21392 Жыл бұрын

    As a guy trying to make photography my job, I have to love it. I make photos daily, post on social media daily, get ten likes at most but I’m still doing it. Being unemployed at the moment has allowed me to split my time: pursue photography and apply to day jobs. If my photography takes off than I can stop the day job hunt.

  • @shaunmaddox
    @shaunmaddox Жыл бұрын

    Did you have a mentor in the process? Just starting any business is risky, did you have a client base established before going full-time? Have you had any schooling in business? Thanks

  • @davecarrera
    @davecarrera Жыл бұрын

    Did my first "commercial shoot" Saturday. I know I know, I said I wouldnt but got asked to do it and the devil on my shoulder said why not. Well I planned, Kit checked, Shot it, Got paid, Edited the result and delivering later today. Now off to my day job to earn the same money lol Lets see how all this pans out , if at all.

  • @kavanlake871
    @kavanlake871 Жыл бұрын

    If you truly love photography, it’s very hard to hate it as a career. If that happens, it’s mostly because of other outside influences. We have to create boundaries, and adhere to them, so we don’t end up despising that thing that brought us joy in the first place.

  • @TimSeraphiel
    @TimSeraphiel Жыл бұрын

    I've been a hobbyist photographer for 30 or so years... starting with instamatic, then compact, SLR, DSLR, and now full frame mirrorless. I've never wanted to go pro and even now am just happy snapping away for my own enjoyment. I'm always trying to improve my skills but yeah... it's a creative outlet for me. I wouldn't be any good as a pro... too stressful and I'm very much an introvert so not suited to working with people.

  • @soulofbjol
    @soulofbjol Жыл бұрын

    I am 16 year old photographer that moved from Ukraine to UK. Before I came here i thought i would be a musician. And I do have a question: is it worth to be a photographer or getting education as camera operator in Film Practice? And what universities would you recommend? Thank you

  • @koltureshack7993
    @koltureshack7993 Жыл бұрын

    I wonder if there's a difference between doing your hobby as an employee vs. as a freelancer. For me, working in my field (graphic design) as an employee sucked the joy out of doing it. So much so that I am now going into photography. I do wonder if I was freelance whether I'd end up where I am now... or maybe I just needed to do personal projects...

  • @kiwimike2330

    @kiwimike2330

    Жыл бұрын

    Being an employee photographer sucks, miserable pay, usually shitty work and hours. Being a freelance photographer is fantastic, excellent pay, great work, good hours. I love my job as a freelance photographer, it’s the best job in the world. Easy work, zero problems. Take photos, process photos deliver photos, get paid. Easy as.

  • @reggiej6542
    @reggiej6542 Жыл бұрын

    I'm a commercial, portrait, and fashion photographer currently based in Vietnam. But it's quite funny that in Vietnam, most of the time one earns more money shooting personal portraits than from commercial/advertising or for fashion magazines. Last time I did a photoshoot for an article with Elle Magazine Vietnam, my team of 3 made £100, my other fellow photographer shot the cover and made £130. My team and I also did an 8-hour shoot with Lancome Cosmetics 2 weeks ago and made £500 for a 10-hour shoot. But with personal portrait shoots, I usually made £150-200 for a 2-hour shoot. Honestly, I love shooting fashion and commercial more than anything, but I’ve got a feeling that in Vietnam, usually the bigger the client, the less you earn from a shoot. But sometimes we have to reluctantly sign the contracts to make connections and to have big brands in your portfolio even when more and more big clients have lowered their media budgets.

  • @kiwipics4003
    @kiwipics4003 Жыл бұрын

    A wise old bird asked me one day, "What do you want, Greg, pleasing methods or pleasing results?" Now, decades later, that one question liberated me to objectively discover what makes enough money to buy time for some whimsical pleasing methods. In the end, the two became one. I enjoy it all now. At 62yrs old, I know that if a 1000D & budget kit lens for $100 will do the job I have for it, why the heck spend $2k?! In short, it became a game to me....and who doesn't like a good game?

  • @mynewcolour
    @mynewcolour Жыл бұрын

    I got egglstonian on my walk back from work yesterday but only had my phone cam 😢CARRY YOUR CAMERA PPL !!!

  • @workinprogress2077
    @workinprogress2077 Жыл бұрын

    I think there are a few factors that determine how difficult it will be to be a full-time photographer, and how much money or support you have to make that move. Artist make both conscious and unconscious moves to put themselves in position to pursuee their art. Meanwhile on KZread the thing thst drives me mad is people who review cameras fulltime and don't show or have a portfolio. To me context is important.

  • @outtathyme5679
    @outtathyme5679 Жыл бұрын

    I love Lucy

  • @brandonpierce
    @brandonpierce Жыл бұрын

    AI development is my biggest concern regarding doing pro photography work again. It’s been about 15 years since I switched my attention to a different entrepreneurial focus…. But two years ago I bought a Nikon Z7, and my passion has reignited. I have the gear and know how to go pro, but the rise of AI seems poised to replace most commercial photography. Thoughts?

  • @clintonr9804
    @clintonr9804 Жыл бұрын

    Old joke from photography trade school: Yes, it is possible to make a small fortune in photography. Just start with a large fortune.

  • @AuspiciousOncologist
    @AuspiciousOncologist Жыл бұрын

    I guess I won't presume to know why people dread turning their hobby into a career, but one thing that comes to mind which I'm not 100% sure you mentioned is the possibility of not being able to practice the kind of photography one might want to, merely because it isn't profitable. Seeking profits, chasing a monetary incentive through the work, especially gigs, unless I guess you're lucky or persistent, entails compromises and sacrifices that otherwise you wouldn't have to make photographing just for fun.

  • @portblock
    @portblock8 ай бұрын

    For me it didnt ruin it, but the love for the shoot wasnt there as much, so for me, I just went and bought a sony a7 for personal shooting, now a nikon Zfc, and its for enjoyment only, I dont use any of my studio gear, just me and my Zfc walking around enjoying capturing images vs my work creating images

  • @Tren_is_okay
    @Tren_is_okay Жыл бұрын

    I love it…. I couldn’t lose the love ever… I might get suffer burnout but I never lose the love for the art.

  • @BethBuelow

    @BethBuelow

    Жыл бұрын

    I think you make an important point here. Some might mistake burnout for losing the love. Sure, they might go hand in hand, but not necessarily.

  • @TheBigBlueMarble
    @TheBigBlueMarble Жыл бұрын

    Anything that you MUST do can cause stress and therefore can make you less happy.

  • @geoffreystone1598
    @geoffreystone1598 Жыл бұрын

    Using computers as a professional engineer, since 1981, has not diminished my love of engineering or computers. I still have my one man band consultancy. But travel to remote sites is less attractive given my age. I have been undertaking photography since I was 11yo, 62 years! Now I want to make money from photography. Running a business is second nature. That is the key to making money. Photography is the product that my business will sell. Marketing, tax, compliance, planning, insurances etc are all part of the job.

  • @sprout995
    @sprout995 Жыл бұрын

    I've made plenty of money with my camera over the years. That being said, I enjoy my career as a truck driver more. I have never enjoyed the 9 to 5 office or factory work. If I could not drive any longer, I would pursue my photography as a career.

  • @armikstepanyan9677
    @armikstepanyan9677 Жыл бұрын

    Years ago I quit my day job to become a full time photographer and established a photo studio, but I sensed that while I am making money off the thing I am passionate about, I am kind of loosing the creative say, meaning that the majority of my clients were looking at me as a means to an end and not someone who might have creative ideas. Long story short; burnout, loss of passion. Went back to an office job: I realized that for me it works best if I do photography at my own time as a leisure and if I make occasional money off it, there is no pressure.

  • @waclosh
    @waclosh Жыл бұрын

    The song is lava!

  • @MarkKidsley1989
    @MarkKidsley1989 Жыл бұрын

    Whey! Cheeky cameo from yours truly

  • @ared18t
    @ared18t11 ай бұрын

    I think the people who hate doing photography as a career just aren't photographing the subject they enjoyed photographing while it was their hobby. I love photographing people. So things like weddings quinceaneras barmitsfas and portraits are an excellent choice for my career as a photographer. Unfortunately, most people I meet Love things like landscapes and still life more but for some reason they're trying to force themselves to take pictures of people.

  • @Popa_Bogdan_Light_Drawing
    @Popa_Bogdan_Light_Drawing Жыл бұрын

    photo & sports = life!

  • @andyspacey
    @andyspacey Жыл бұрын

    7.54 I full commented to be a photography. That's the key, no safety net or plan B. just pure 100 % commented to plan A

  • @kaczynski2333
    @kaczynski2333 Жыл бұрын

    Fun story; when I was a younger man, I went all gung ho, took photography very seriously. I ended up hating it, and didn't pick up a camera for a decade.

  • @godsinbox
    @godsinbox Жыл бұрын

    I don't want to become a pro because it is frankly too hard. 16 hours a day, 7 days. chasing work, then chasing more. your partner doesn't understand why weekend days are work days. you have to be a people person, Landscape photography is for being alone to unwind *after* work

  • @batworker
    @batworker Жыл бұрын

    My wife jacked in a 27 year career in admin to turn her gardening hobby into a job, it’s definitely not spoiled gardening for her. She’s always either in somebody else’s garden for money or in ours for fun; essentially she can now do garden related stuff *all the time*…😂

  • @eric_erock434
    @eric_erock434 Жыл бұрын

    nothing to say. just listened here

  • @andychandler3992
    @andychandler3992 Жыл бұрын

    Opinions about this will run the spectrum. And everyone's right because it depends on what someone with a camera wants. That in mind, a few thoughts: Amateur is from the latin Amor, which means to love. So I think the term Amateur is a little bit of a pejorative that is unearned disingenuous. Whether you do it for money or just to impress people on fb, do what you love, and love what you do. Photography is my second passion. Olympic style recurve archery is my first and I've earned $$$$ off of it shooting semi pro. It's a side hustle and I think it's a reward for what I love to do. I'd do it without a check, BUT it certain has helped me buy more archery equipment and go to more places. I just made my first sale in photography and in all honest, the photo that I took that made that sale, I'd take it again and never sell it, because the experience of taking it was phenomenal.

  • @peteryyz43
    @peteryyz43 Жыл бұрын

    0:11 With a name like Lucy Lumen, I imagine that what she doesn't know about light meters and luminance, isn't worth knowing.

  • @jamesohara4295
    @jamesohara4295 Жыл бұрын

    Most people can Sing. Does that make them Singers?. Most people can Dance. Does that make them a Dancers?. likewise with Photography.

  • @ernie548
    @ernie548 Жыл бұрын

    Runnimg any business will take the inspiration out of an interest, unless the business part is inspiring to them.

  • @milosschaffner9162
    @milosschaffner9162 Жыл бұрын

    I love you style and your videos and must important: your tips! But one thing I want to mention in that brilliant timelaps: WHY THE HECK IS ALWAYS THE WOMAN CLEANING? :-D

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