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@RosiePosey5150

Жыл бұрын

You make amazing videos. A combo of art and history.

@RowanWarren78

Жыл бұрын

You folks ever seen the movie "The Graduate"? Remember the ending? Yeah, I honestly wish he could have snatched her out of there, hopped in a carriage, left town and never looked back. ❤️

@lukegehring5305

Жыл бұрын

Wrong! Regardless of the artists motive "Speak now or forever hold your peace," is not part of of the Orthodox wedding. In fact there are no vows. In fact this is not the wedding, but the bethrothal which proceeds it. The placing of the ring, and the fact there are no crowns held above their heads tell you that. One of the main differences between the Orthodox and western weddings is that in the Eastern wedding there is none of the bride as property connotations of the standard western wedding, but the couple proceeds from bethrothal through wedding as equals. If the artist is saying this match is unequal, therein is the irony and power. Other questions you raise would have been answered if you had familiarized yourself with the wedding first.

@RowanWarren78

Жыл бұрын

@@lukegehring5305 well thank God we have you here to explain it to us mere mortals. 😆

@lukegehring5305

Жыл бұрын

@@RowanWarren78 when dealing with someone else's culture and beliefs, common respect and decency, not to mention good scholarship indicates that your homework should be done.

One detail in this painting which is just immaculate is that the flowers in her crown are still buds and not yet fully bloomed. I think this symbolizes how she herself is not yet ready for the situation she is in.

@RowanWarren78

Жыл бұрын

Great observation!

@EpicKate

Жыл бұрын

Whoa, goosebumps!

@solox6156

Жыл бұрын

Outstanding observations!

@yeyosilver7067

Жыл бұрын

Not really, It was just a custom of the time It was a simple wedding decoration at the time, not to mention it was cheaper Do not share fake news or fantasies as if they were facts

@yeyosilver7067

Жыл бұрын

Not to mention that such an interpretation makes no sense, especially considering the painter

I love that she mentions how carelessly the bride is holding the candle, as if she could easily drop it. At this time in history, deaths caused by petticoats catching on fire were not terribly uncommon. In fact, both of the writer Oscar Wilde's sisters died this way; absolutely horrific. This depiction in the painting in regard to the way she's holding that candle almost seems as if she's considered ending her life to avoid this marriage. Fascinating!

@edisonlima4647

Жыл бұрын

When you add in the fact that most make up products of the time were oil and fat petroleum based and of how many layers of light, combustible fabric dresses were made, in a time before electric lightning became common, it is surprising that such tragedies were not an everyday occurrence.

@ailsadixon408

Жыл бұрын

Not to mention the fact that it was often recommended to soak white garments such as petticoats and afternoon dresses in gasoline to wash them properly!

@LordVader1094

Жыл бұрын

@@ailsadixon408 Source on that?

@madeline6951

Жыл бұрын

@@LordVader1094 Bernadette recently made a video where she followed a victorian laundry routine and it recommended soaking gowns in gasoline to loosen the soil stains and preserve whiteness

@ciara7172

Жыл бұрын

That's how my great great grandma died

If it's true that elderly grooms called off their weddings to their much younger and unwilling brides, it is a fantastic example of the impact art can have on society. It is wonderful that this painting struck a chord and became so acclaimed that other artists did their own versions of this theme. Thank you for doing this very informative video, it was very thought-provoking for me.

@kymo6343

Жыл бұрын

"If it's true", but I seriously doubt it is. I actually laughed when she said that thinking for sure at first that it had to be sarcasm. XD;;

@dodgyyoutuber9560

Жыл бұрын

I mean, if there were men who cared enough about the feelings of their brides to break off the engagement, that implies that they could have been good husbands, which is kind of sad.

@edisonlima4647

Жыл бұрын

@@dodgyyoutuber9560 You are assuming they would call of their weddings for the sake of the brides, and that is your mistake. Imagine you are an elderly rich man in those times. Your public image is very important if you are to keep a place in the higher circles, which you definitely went, because there is no tv or Internet and "keeping society" is essential for aristocrats. Now imagine EVERYONE is now talking about a painting on the ridiculousness of old rich men marrying poorer young women. Probably commenting on how that reminds you of Mr. X and his young bride. You WOULD call off your wedding, not for her sake, but as to not be ridiculed by your peers.

@cardboard2night

Жыл бұрын

Kym O it's true, at least one person, historic Kostomarov, confessed he cancelled his proposal to much younger than him woman, and others wrote that artist quote "marred blood of many elderly general" who planned to marry a young bride. The exact russian quote "много крови испортил не одному старому генералу"

@kymo6343

Жыл бұрын

@@edisonlima4647 Okay THIS sounds much more plausible.

In Russia it is commonly considered that two older brides are the ghosts of the groom’s late wifes. Ghost topic was very popular in Russian literature and conversation at that time. The condemning look on the old bride tells a lot. As if she were saying “ you mistreated me and led me to the grave, now you wouldn’t stop and still want to take a fresh life.”

@misskim2058

Жыл бұрын

And she ended up looking like the one in the background herself.

@rahul17023

Жыл бұрын

Wives*

@griseldavargas5016

Жыл бұрын

😃 Aquí en México también se cree que el fantasma de la esposa difunta detesta a la nueva esposa, desde la ciudad del rey poeta Saludos

@LAWLZ24

Жыл бұрын

@@griseldavargas5016No, el comment está diciendo que en Russia se piensa que la fantasma odia al viejo esposo y que lo acusa de seguir tomando vidas. No dicen que odia a la nueva novia, al contrario.

@bettyboop-xg6jo

Жыл бұрын

How interesting! Thank you for explaining.

Women, especially from middle through very wealthy classes, were consistently forced to marry the family choice, a choice based on status and money. Girls were commodities. I am 71. When teaching at a University, one if my most intelligent female students, who came from an old wealthy family confessed she wanted to go to medical school but could not because her marriage into another old wealthy family had already been arranged. She loathed her prospective groom. When I asked her why she could not refuse, she told me she would be disinherited and never see her siblings, whom she loved, again. She also had no ability to support herself. So…I’m guessing her wedding night, as it was for many women of the period during which this piece was created, was a rape.

@monstermcboo7282

Жыл бұрын

Heart shatteringly appalling. 😭

@younglingmaid2526

Жыл бұрын

As a sixteen-year-old young woman who comes from a lineage of arranged marriages and child brides and grooms, I feel sorry for all of my ancestors and everyone else who had to suffer...Nobody deserves to have their life planned out without their consent.

@jjba3571

Жыл бұрын

In my third world country women married the most suitable men even if they dont lovethem cuz women werent allow to work, so they need their husband support, most enjoyed this obvious control and many chetaed or even hit them nd they could not divirce or they will starve

@younglingmaid2526

Жыл бұрын

@@jjba3571 Those poor souls.

@sharonkaczorowski8690

Жыл бұрын

@Elizabeth Bennett you and I have a very different understanding of rape. Psychological pressure can be as powerful as physical. It’s not about only physical choice (that’s a legal view) and women are particularly raised to see themselves as without choice. She had no ability to support herself, no skills and very little self esteem. She was terrified of her father. I believe a more in depth study of sex forced by culture, by family based emotional and physical power, by fear of privation needs studying. Sometimes it’s more straightforward…an essentially arranged marriage into which the girl is forced. I knew an Italian American victim of that. He violently raped her every night. I’ve seen what it does to women. PTSD, unresolved rage, self blame, that good,ole toxic stew. These girls and women don’t get help because what happened to them, night after night, was not legal rape. Often they were also victims of childhood abuse designed to make them obedient to whatever is done to them. As a victim of legally defined rape, (although as I was married it wasn’t illegal at the time, I had no recourse). I remember my attorney telling me to make sure if he did it again that he beat me badly so he could be charged with assault. Actually not so different from these women in some ways. I’ve spent much time talking to these women, I see the same damage from the absence of choice, even though that absence is more complex. Their choices are coerced, often quite cleverly. As a result they receive little or no support or therapy.

This got me emotional. He was so thoughtful in portraying female pain. He actually made people sympathetic to what women went through during that time.

@mg725

Жыл бұрын

A rare kind of man in any era

@studiotwo24

Жыл бұрын

@@mg725 👏👏👏👏👏

@studiotwo24

Жыл бұрын

💯

@Broeckchen

19 күн бұрын

Completely centered the bride, added more female perspectives during the process, and made sure to make his own stance on the issue perfectly unambiguous while keeping himself out of the spotlight. Genuinely great stuff.

This literally reminds me of the life of one of my ancestors, except she chose to elope with the poor farm boy rather than marry the old man she was engaged to. In the 1860s, they eloped from Ireland all the way to New Zealand (where i am today). She was an aristocrat and one day happened to meet a English Captain of a ship who recognised her, but he turned his back on her the moment he realised who she was. He must have told her family he saw her, because years later her father came all the way to NZ to beg her to return. He saw her on two occasions, the first time she was peeling potatoes and the second time she was baking and covered in flour (humiliating moments considering she came from an aristocratic family and never did work like this at home). He told her if she went home with him (leaving behind her small children) and married the old guy, the family would accept her back. She chose to stay in NZ, disowned and disconnected from her family for the rest of her life. Im proud of my ancestor~~ but i feel sorry for any woman who had to go through something like this is the picture. It would have been horrible to marry an old man, leaving behind someone you love. I can’t imagine that pain… but either situation is painful. I guess it comes down to what decision the individual thinks they can live with.

@astranix0198

Жыл бұрын

Did the descendants(you and your Irish cousins) reconcile?

@wikiwoof9590

Жыл бұрын

I think that marrying for love strictly is a problem because love waxes and wanes but if it is paired with understanding and dedication from both parties it can be weathered but even if one makes an impulsive decision and it’s a mistake at least it’s their mistake. I think your ancestor must have been incredibly strong. And now you’re a kiwi and that’s pretty badass too.

@DevonExplorer

Жыл бұрын

What a fabulous piece of family history. Thank you for sharing, Val. What a brave woman. Better to be baking in a home with love than being served in a home where love and happiness is void, methinks. :)

@monmothma3358

Жыл бұрын

That's so interesting. Her father years later coming all the way to get her back, may mean he cared about her and missed her, yet it was unfathomable to him to simply accept her life choices, or her children as his grandchildren. Shows how ingrained in us culture can get. "We do _this_ , but not _this_ , not because there's any good reason, it's just the way we have always done things." (Incidentally, the old guy back in Ireland must have been patient. Years after she eloped and got another husband and children, he still wanted to marry her! I mean, move on, old wannabe groom lol)

@peachesandcream8753

Жыл бұрын

@@monmothma3358 "Not because there's any good reason"? The good reason was that marriage wasn't for love but for bringing families together, forming alliances and having children. It had nothing to do with love. Marrying for love is a new concept and probably the reason why marriages fail so often nowadays; there is no duty behind marrying for love and is purely founded on feelings.

I love that he would risk so much to express his distaste for what was going on at the time, not knowing how the public would take it. He deserves some applause not only for a phenomenal, expressive painting, but for having the guts to paint it.

@_Diana_S

Жыл бұрын

He was made a professor of Russia's Academy of Fine Arts for this painting. His painting was bought before the exhibition, and is displayed at the most prominent art museum, Tretyakov Gallery, so everything worked out well for the artist in the end.

How do you find these paintings with such interesting backstories?? Your channel is so delightful, please do this for the next 10 years

@clairelevasseur9434

Жыл бұрын

At lease 20 years!!!

@lilblkrose

Жыл бұрын

Art history classes does short analysis and provides where you can search further in 😂

@pfloydsux

Жыл бұрын

She probably has some sort of art degree. Art history classes are some of the most fascinating classes you can take and this is exactly the sort of information you'll discuss in them.

@dobeus8957

Жыл бұрын

We could only wish huh…I find the stories interesting too and she gives a new perspective on paintings that I’ve merely looked at for the talent of the artist alone!

@metalosaur

Жыл бұрын

If you ever visit an art galery in any major city, local guides will share a plenty of such backstories.

Such a beautiful painting, you can truly feel the pain in the bride's eyes. I love how you can analyze paintings, it's very interesting to listen to someone with a good idea of art explain such an amazing piece.

@danialm8122

8 ай бұрын

nope you still didn't understand the painting.

@Kaesar_v

8 ай бұрын

@@danialm8122 well why dont you explain it then?

@sk8boredd

Ай бұрын

​@@danialm8122explain 4 us ples :3

@chrystianaw8256

Ай бұрын

​@@danialm8122idiot

This reminds me of how my great grandma was forced to marry man that she didn’t love. He snuck into her room and laid in bed with her. When her parents entered the room and found him in her bed, they forced them to get married. She hadn’t even known he was there and had only awoken when her parents started yelling after finding him there.

@blueStarKitt7924

Жыл бұрын

😡😡😡 That's all I can say.

@kasvinimuniandy4178

Жыл бұрын

oh my goodness...

@frofro7134

Жыл бұрын

and how was her life?

@wrendum286

Жыл бұрын

Men🤢🗑

@elmin82

Жыл бұрын

Omg feel sorry for your grandmother

I'm a Russian artist and I know the history of this painting, we learn about it in schools. The second theory is true. The man behind the bride (Sofja Rybnikova) is the Pukirev's friend - Sergey Varentsov. He threw a tantrum because of the cynical use of his personal tragedy, so Pukirev had to add his facial features (like a beard) to the portrait in order to solve the problem and to save the friendship. The groom (Karzinkin) on the painting is a general, but in real life he was a rich manufacturer. And he wasn't too old, he was 38 years old.

@ladybird1156

Жыл бұрын

No way is the groom 38. He's approaching 70. If he was 38 he would've been disgusted with this portrayal of him.

@mattybrunolucaszeneresalas9072

Жыл бұрын

@@ladybird1156 I’m pretty sure that was precisely the point.

@greengrassli

Жыл бұрын

@@ladybird1156 Karzinkin was 38 irl, but Pukirev wanted to capture just the dramatic situation, not the actual people. And they say that Sofja was pretty happy in the marriage 🤷🏻‍♀️

@marciamartins1992

Жыл бұрын

If she was 16 year old, 38 is way too old.....But that's just me.

@MegaPokemon1997

Жыл бұрын

@@marciamartins1992 38 - 13 is 25, not 16.

The bride's pain is so palpable. It's devastating to witness. Some of the best art is honest art; art that shows the whole truth, especially when that particular truth usually goes ignored.

I love how most of the flowers on the young bride are closed buds yet to bloom. Beautiful detail!

@karolinakuc4783

Жыл бұрын

As if to sea she is not ready for this

@rustyhowe3907

Жыл бұрын

Just a child too early picked thus to wither before ever having the chance to bloom.

A reminder of how women have, through the ages, been treated like commodities. Families used attractive young daughters as a way to gain a connection to money and power. Glad to learn some such weddings were called off, after the painting was seen!

An interesting fact about the groom's award : the cross on his neck - the Order of Vladimir of the second degree, which in the history of Russia was awarded to about 3 thousand people(which is about 22 awards per year from 1782 - 1917) and 700 people the first degree. The Cavalier of this order must always wear this award and when receiving higher awards, the order had only to change its place. The star on the chest complements this order. Upd: wow! Thank you for so many likes,I didn't expect this. So I added another cool fact in the comments

@RowanWarren78

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for the info!

@dianalindeman1644

Жыл бұрын

FDLTrader Thanks for the information! Educational!

@EpochEmerge

Жыл бұрын

You are welcome guys 😅 I was so excited after this vid that decided to Google for more on that

@EpochEmerge

Жыл бұрын

Here's another interesting fact about candles during a russian wedding ceremony in a church: "...will burn throughout the entire ritual. They are a spiritual symbol of the sacrament and signify the grace of God, confirming the spiritual chastity of the weds and their sincere desire to marry. The fire symbolizes the sincerity and fervency of the prayer for a prosperous family life." "The next rule is the lit candles in the hands of the weds, which symbolize the transience of earthly life: as candle wax is burned away by the fire, so the human age melts away day by day, bringing us closer to eternal life. But the flame of the candles is also the fire of human souls. As Scripture says, "You are the light of the world. The city that stands at the top of the mountain cannot hide. And when they light a candle, they do not put it under a vessel, but on a candlestick, and it shines to all in the house. So let your light shine before men, that they may see your good works and glorify your Father who is in heaven" (Matt. 5:14-16)." Knowing this we can deeper understand the light of candles and how they hold them

@igorkurtukov8520

Жыл бұрын

To add to that - this award was never given for "continuous service". You would need to achieve something to get it. And 2nd degree means that the groom has civil rank equivalent to a major-general or higher.

I have no doubt that this painting was popular in it’s time, especially with women. The fact that this piece actually shamed some older grooms (who, were quite literally “groomers”) into breaking their engagements makes me so happy 🙌 A case of life imitating art, as it were - and I am here for it! BTW, does anyone else think that the bride resembles Queen Victoria?

@nordikcajun5417

9 ай бұрын

That times grooms did what they wanted and didn’t feel shame.Young brides were like trade and deals

@user-sg4ov7ng4h

6 ай бұрын

I thought groomer came from like dog grooming, didn't really see what related tho

@kyrab7914

2 ай бұрын

Queen Victoria was more than happy to get married. She lived under "the Kensington protocol" until she became Queen. Also, Prince Albert didn't immediately share her feelings. To answer the grooming question @user-sg4ov7ng4h grooming is what it's called when predatory older ppl essentially train young ppl to accept their..."affections". It just happened to be a good play on words here, tho perhaps whoever coined it knew of this practice.

her eyes just hold the entire story in them, the sorrow , the pain , her hopelessness , the bitter truth she can't walk away from....the artist was truly great for putting all such emotion in her eyes

I’ve always been intrigued by this painting and the story behind it. I was lucky to be the most happy bride on the planet when marrying my spouse last Sunday! BUT this painting is a stark reminder that for a lot of people during history, and even today, marriage can be worse than a funeral

@younglingmaid2526

Жыл бұрын

Congratulations to you and your spouse, I wish you two the best!

@rachel_sj

Жыл бұрын

@@younglingmaid2526 Thank you very much!!

@younglingmaid2526

Жыл бұрын

@@rachel_sj You're so welcome, my good friend!!!

@lesbiangonerouge

Жыл бұрын

congrats!!!

@blueStarKitt7924

Жыл бұрын

Congratulations!

This is sadly still the fate of some women. (Story time!) A high school friend of mine was engaged at age 13 to a man in his 30s. The man was rich and politically powerful in her homeland. He covered the family's cost of immigrating to America, with the family planning to repay him by giving him their daughter. Until she was old enough to marry, he was basically holding her father hostage, refusing to let him immigrate and rejoin the family until they "paid up." Her family told her that she had to obey her future husband in all things because, if she disobeyed or shamed him, her father was in grave jeopardy. That included being pressured into intimacy at just 15. She would tell me about this between classes, and while it sounded like she was thrilled by sex and the danger of him being an older man (like, serious LEGAL DANGER but we weren't fully aware of laws like that back then) there was still the fact that she believed she COULDN'T disobey him. So in reality, there was never true consent, and she cried on my shoulder some days when the thrill turned into feelings of intense guilt, believing she was sinning. Shortly after turning 16, she got pregnant. Her fiance demanded she tell no one, get an abortion (despite it being against their religion), or her father would be put to death! She showed up to school sobbing and vomiting from fear. I convinced her, he had no power here, the ball was fully in her court, and it was time she broke this off. We hatched a plan to blackmail her fiance: free her father and call off the wedding, or she would go to the police to report him for having sex with a minor. I would be on standby: if she "vanished," I would go to the police with a letter handwritten by her. He'd be arrested for both being a sexual predator and extortion, and he could lose his businesses in the United States. It was a massive gamble, but it worked. His reputation was more important to him than money or some teen bride. Her father finally made it to America, and she was free from the engagement. The whole experience was so stressful, she miscarried. Which in a way further liberated her, since she didn't want a baby yet, and a custody battle could've ended up ugly. To celebrate, she removed her head scarf, cut her hair, and bought her first pair of blue jeans. To her, this was symbolic of her feeling like she could finally be FULLY an American teenager.

@digitxlrin

Жыл бұрын

What happened was HORRIBLE. But I’m glad that she’s free now, I wish her great luck and health!

@TranswealthyTrillionaire

Жыл бұрын

That's horrific, she did nothing wrong, her family and the dirty old creeper are the sinners here! Glad she's free now.

@tacomaui2732

Жыл бұрын

Wow... it's just so jarring that after all these traumatic and horrible events the last sentence is that she can finally be a *teenager* - damn. no child should ever have to go through this :/ Soooo proud of her, and you're awesome too for having her back!! y'all are very slay X)

@yuiitodoro7791

Жыл бұрын

U are very brave and was ready to take such big actions for your friend...i have immense respect

@sabahhussain2946

Жыл бұрын

You mentioned that she removed her headscarf so she was muslim. I think a lot of people might misunderstand your story as muslim women ar forced to marry forced to wear a headscarf while its quite the contrary. You should clarify the fact that just because she is muslim and her family forced her to marry doesn't mean thats islam.

This painting takes “paint your pains” to a whole ’nother level.

@baltazarsantossantiago1440

Жыл бұрын

"another"

@dimonddust4318

13 күн бұрын

@@baltazarsantossantiago1440 "other"

Interesting to know that at traditional orthodox wedding nobody asking if anyone objects to this union - by the time of actual wedding ceremony the union is already looked on and approved by the church and nobody has an authority to dispute it. The priest doesn't even asks newlyweds do they want to get married or not - it's assumed they do so he just ask them to say their vows, which are also scripted. The whole ceremony, with vows and blessings, takes 40-60 minutes.

@yowayde

Жыл бұрын

In Catholic weddings we have something called Marriage Banns. The wedding is announced at the parish 3 weeks ahead of time and it gives people the opportunity to object to the union before the ceremony. The dramatic "I object!" Isn't really a thing in Catholicism.

@krdiaz8026

Жыл бұрын

@@yowayde it used to be, but for practical reasons they required banns.

@meeramalhotra33

Жыл бұрын

People won't object because they'd have to face the repercussions of the failed marriage, especially if the groom was of a high status. It won't be pretty for them to handle his wrath after it's over.

@yeyosilver7067

Жыл бұрын

It was no use for the church to do anything

@olgagaming5544

Жыл бұрын

In my local village there was a story that a young guy was going to marry a girl but HIS heartbroken partner wrote a letter to the priest and the guy's parents that the groom is secretly gay and and he's marrying to mislead everyone and wants to marry just for convenience and to please the family... The wedding got canceled and the pair (with girl, idk about these two guys) split up.. It's always funny when in a traditional rural area somone is discovered/comes out as a homosexual.

Imagine drawing the most heartbreaking scene of his life. Man... I am an artist but I can't do that.

@RowanWarren78

Жыл бұрын

Have you ever seen the movie "The Graduate"? Remember the ending? Yeah, I honestly wish he could have snatched her out of there, hopped in a carriage, left town and never looked back. ❤️

@astranix0198

Жыл бұрын

*laughs in Van Gogh*

@ismayb754

Жыл бұрын

I agree but also, take everything in art with a pinch of salt. Artists are notoriously over dramatic. He was probably "deeply, passionately" in love with someone new every few months. It doesn't mean the overall, general messages in their paintings aren't valid. But the "personal" history not so much. Interesting as they are.

@rustyhowe3907

Жыл бұрын

@@ismayb754 For all we know he might've even done it for the extra sympathy votes, a tragic love story involving a painter and his girl whisked off to cold older man would make *excellent* appeal value seeing the romantic era of the times.

The bride wears orange blossoms wreath/tiara on her head, traditional at that time for brides, as the orange blossoms symbolised purity, innocence, virtue, and fertility. And sometimes they were also ascribed to signify the desire for true & pure love.

@mariaphuket

8 күн бұрын

Well, orange trees don't grow in Russian climate and delivering those flowers would be very expensive and difficult. That is a hint to the groom being extremely rich for his time period

@passionfruitfruit

8 күн бұрын

@@mariaphuket that's absolutely true. They might have also been green house ones, also very expensive. But artificial orange blossoms made of wax were also made.

I love these posts. Please keep making more. I don’t have an eye for detail, and your deep dives into the meaning of these works is invaluable to me. I love art, but know so little of it. Thank you for these graduate lessons.

@lizsteeds6697

Жыл бұрын

Graduate level ... ?? um ... not really ...

@aldimaven6070

Жыл бұрын

@@lizsteeds6697 it just seems to me that her depth of knowledge goes deeper than what a mere BA would cover. I could be wrong, of course, because I was never fortunate enough to study Art History. Anyway, I love her videos and I think that she does a wonderful job.

It reminds me ALOT from an animation showcase on Gobelins called "Louise", about ballerinas going backstage after a show in order to get together with these older but richer men I personally love the animation and shows how wealth is portrayed in the play, the main character looks for a man of high status offering herself to obtain the money she is looking for, very sad but true its a great animation that I was reminded of with this video

@KawaiiStars

Жыл бұрын

@F. M because they wouldn't have to do it if their pay was good, and promotions in the ballet industry wasn't based on nepotism

@amye4228

Жыл бұрын

@F. M The context for goeblins is that a lot of the balllerinas were young teenager eg 13-16, and their mothers would pimp them out to the wealthy patrons of the ballet. The difference between miners etc is that they work horrific conditions and they deserve better compensation, but they can unionise which was big transformation for the 19th century. Meanwhile these children were being sold into prostition and sexual exploitation by their own mothers.

@essimathews9056

Жыл бұрын

@F. M what do you think unions are for?

@angelor9211

Жыл бұрын

In "LOUISE" its mostly about how the main character is presented in the ballet play as a young woman struggling with money, she has another friend from noble family that is in love with another young man with no money the friend is about to be courted, both being exact opposites. Louise herself needs money to pay another woman and is forced to look for a specific man that knows has the kind of money to easily pay off, she goes looking for the sir and encounters 2 men named Claire being a rich old noble but very Casanova and another named Charles who genuinely seems to love her but the lack of money in comparison to the one he's looking for loses her interest She goes around asking some more and approaches an area where many noble gather after the play, notably you can see how the ballerinas are alot more conscious about them being looked as simple quick woman looking for something in said nobleman, she is recommended Charles who is seen still caught up with his feelings for Louise sitting alone before she decides to label him not rich enough and moves on She moves deeper backstage where the Nobles and ballerinas go from talking, transitioning to more sexual relationships, in which she looks around the backstage seems ALOT more darker and disoriented, she keeps looking and gets ready a bit to look less childish for said man The man is found, but its obvious he is only interested in one thing about her, so they head some stairs where he* gets all rough one her, while said activities are happening she tries distracting herself on the ring he wears, the gloves on the floor and the shoes he wears, where they cut to her in the lockers sitting down still shocked about what she did Her friend is there and they talk about the courting, she said her mother found a much older but richer nobleman, and Louise asks jokingly how she likes older men now to which her friend replies they like her more She pays her debts and is offered macaroons (colored as the ballerinas outfits) where the girl offering them says she's "had too many" and everyone gets dressed while Louise grapples her friend by the arm and leaves Louise is a great animation, and historically speaking, actually did happen with ballerinas, but the story highlights something not as known and I recommend you all to watch it since some view it with different meaning

@essimathews9056

Жыл бұрын

@F. M We don't ignore the sharecropper's woes. The history of the industrial revolution, unions, union busting, poor relief etc are integral to many social-studies and history classes. Unions were literally airing vast grievances. Here we are talking about women. Sharecroppers and worker's rights have their own spaces.

Im so glad that you took a look at the Russian art. I hope you will discuss more and more great works (Demons by Vrubel or Princess Tarakanova by Flavitsky and even more) There is a little detail about the candles in the brides' and grooms' hands. Back in those days in Russian wedding tradition there was a belief that whoever holds theirs candle higher would be senior and leading the household. Here we see how the groom holds his candle strictly mostly like a leash even. While the bride's hand is almost willingless as her future position in this marriage. It may be assumed that she is an orphan who is forced to marry "well" so it's no doubt that bride, being a literal purchase, is gonna be suffocated and abused, especially financially by her husband.

@sera_sarzad

Жыл бұрын

This just made this mor tragic...

@classicroma5609

Жыл бұрын

slava russia

@springfauna1465

Жыл бұрын

My favorite painters are mostly Russian, and their artwork is truly beautiful!!!!!

This instantly reminded me of the painting 'The Wedding' (also known as 'Unequal Marriage') and 'An unequal marriage' by Spanish painter Goya, which were painted at the end of the 18th century. In them, Goya critiques this custom of marring off young women to ensure their financial stability, often to much older men, which was a topic often broached by neoclassical thinkers in Spain at the time (i.e.: 'The Maidens' Consent, Leandro Fernández de Moratín) . I'd like to think Pukirev was inspired by Goya (at least in the naming of the piece) to continue protesting this reality 70 years later, especially since it affected him so deeply (which as far as I know wasn't Goya's case, he was doing a social commentary). Also, excellent video, this channel is amazing :)

@EfeFlet

Жыл бұрын

I never knew that El sí de las niñas was translated like that! Makes a lot more sense that the literal translation I was imagining. It's a really insightful and beautiful reading if anyone is interested. We read it in high school and it really had me thinking about how lucky I am living in this era and the dark reality of many women of the past, present and future. I'm happy someone mentioned it here :)

@olgahein4384

Жыл бұрын

'The Wedding' from 179xsomething ist an entirely different painting than the 'Ill-matched marriage" from 1819 or the 'Unequal Marriage' from 1828 (which looks like an upgraded copy of his ill-matched marriage though). I highly doubt that there was much inspiration taken from any of them, as it was a VERY popular motiv through the ages by many artists (DaVinci, Cranach the elder, Dürer, to name a few). Especially in Goyas Unequal Marriage you see nothing of the bride or even the grooms face. Except for the theme itself and due to that the place of action, there is nothing in common between those paintings. Here it's about the emotional portrayal of the young, even teenage bride being sold like a piece of meat and what it does to her - and that wasn't much if any of a relevant part of artworks with the same themes in the centuries before. Not to mention the aftermath of that painting, changing laws and stuff.

Just stumbled across this channel last week - love it. Thank you for all the work you put into your videos!

@Art_Deco

Жыл бұрын

Thank you so much for supporting the channel! I’m so happy you enjoy the videos ☺️

@mattybrunolucaszeneresalas9072

Жыл бұрын

Wow I didn’t know you could do superstickers here

@ignoreallmycommentsandreplies

Жыл бұрын

@@mattybrunolucaszeneresalas9072 same--

I love the way I could instantly feel her sadness. The way he drew her expression to be so clear that she's distraught is amazing. As a person who draws (traditionally) its so difficult to express such deep emotions of sorrow, anger, insanity, ECT. Emotions to me is something special that people express and seeing it drawn so accurately is really lovely.

everyones talking abt the painting but nobodys talking abt how HOT THE PAINTER IS

@DD-nu8jt

Жыл бұрын

I think he is totally handsome! 😍

@hopewhore

Жыл бұрын

@@DD-nu8jt fr

I think the bride is beautifully painted. Her face tells the story.

This reminds me of my wedding day. Feeling forced to marry someone whom I wasn't actually in love with. Luckily, the marriage only lasted 2.5 years, and we never had kids together, thank God.

@blueStarKitt7924

Жыл бұрын

I am glad you are more free now.

@TonyWKoo

Жыл бұрын

@@blueStarKitt7924 I am. I got married for such a stupid reason. Because I felt like I was supposed to. It’s been about 11 years since my divorce and I’m now learning to accept myself and accept others better. No one is perfect. Everyone has flaws and mistakes in their lives.

It honestly pains me seeing unequal marriages with an unhappy person in the marriage, groom or bride. Having people or their parents choose more well-off partners to “give them a brighter, better future” is most likely just setting them up and giving them an unhappy marriage.

@blueStarKitt7924

Жыл бұрын

Unhappy marriages and then unhappy children.😔

@eliesh3833

10 ай бұрын

@@blueStarKitt7924 Yep. That's what usually happens.

This painting reminds me of my cousin being a teenage bride to a 35 year old man and no one standing up for her

Whoa! That's so sad! Thank you, suffragettes! You did more for women than you might have realized! Thank you for your bravery! ❤

@jobilliegee1298

Жыл бұрын

we stand on the shoulders of giants!

@Indyghurl

Жыл бұрын

@@jobilliegee1298 hi, you should read the Women who run with wolves by Clairissa Pinkola Estes. It's many stories about women for women. Your comment about standing on the shoulders of giants reminded me of one of the stories in the book.

@jobilliegee1298

Жыл бұрын

@@Indyghurl have read it - loved it

The skill the painter shows in every face, fabric, and ringlet is astounding! I wonder if painting with such perfect detail has become a lost art.

@lilyhawthorne1196

11 ай бұрын

Plenty of artists still do this style, it's just that abstractism is popular in mainstream art at the moment. If you went looking you can find contemporary photorealistic pieces/artists

I really like the way you go about explaining the history of paintings in your videos❤️❤️

I love stories of art that influence a society. This piece was a message that the artist wanted to convey, and it reached people. I’m sad that the girl didn’t get to live a more happier life, but hearing that marriages were called off in response to this message’s resonance makes me hope that at least some women were able to avoid an unfulfilling marriage

"Strange placement of a woman" is not because she is a ghost, but she is standing there on groom's side, because she is a matchmaker, watching the result of her efforts, and maybe, thinking of money to come to her after the wedding.

the way that the groom look at her seems like he's just checking to make sure she's doing everything right. It really emphasizes how she's being forced into this marriage.

I don't think the groom is looking at the bride but at the young man standing behind her, the painter. They're exchanging looks in a silent dialogue. The painter seems to say "Really? You happy now?" and the groom is showing his despise, looking down on him, like "see lad, this is what you get when you have money, now move on"

@anthonycekic4509

Жыл бұрын

That was my interpretation too. I can't imagine a guy who wants to get married being so callous to his bride. Especially when he wanted her in the first place.

I‘m so happy to hear that the painting had an effect in the public eye. It reminds me that art can have a huge effect on the zeitgeist of an era and that it can foster progressive change. Thank you for putting so much work into your KZread channel! ❤️ Altough I don’t consider myself a huge art fan, the way that you tell the storys behind these paintings sparks my interest and makes me connect to them.

old paintings are so impressive for no reason, why are people so talented?

This is one of my favorite paintings. When I saw it in the Tretyakov Gallery, I couldn’t stop looking at it. It has so many emotions and almost like the painting of not just a moment of life, an episode, but the whole life itself. Very powerful! Thank you so much for sharing the story behind this masterpiece! Very interesting! 🥰🥰🥰

I’ve never seen this painting, it is masterfully done, but the message is even more interesting. A reminder that behind much of the art are the stories of real men and women who lived well before our time.

So this is the reason why people keep staring at a painting for 40 minutes in art gallery. At first i thought it was about devouring each stroke and texture of every colour but now i think it is really about looking at the art while knowing the backstory.

I love how this painting showed how forced, loveless, arranged marriages for merely the sole purpose of social climbing was awful for everyone, especially the bride. Marriage should be for love and many loving relationships between two people meant for each other were ruined because a girl's parents were more obsessed with status or some old rich guy wanted a trophy / baby factory even if he had distain for her. I'm happy that this painting and those like it acted as a catalyst for people to slowly start to change their attitudes. Granted upward social mobility has a lot harder to do back then and some very poor people get desperate but stuff like this marriage seems to be more out of greed on the bride's parents than desperation since it's likely that they were a people of means with jobs, a home, food, etc. (but of a more modest background). Better to be of modest means but deeply in love and compatible than to be in a marriage of monetary wealth with without love, compatibility or mutual attraction. When a marriage and home is loving, there will be a loving family and thus, happier, more well adjusted kids... leading to a society of well adjusted people. Wealth is overrated. As long as one lives in relative comfort with bills paid and needs met, that's all that truly matters. Also, these arranged marriages often involved a woman who was already "spoken for" with a guy she liked. Basically the old rich guy stole another man's sweetheart and that's just a dick move. Get your own woman, you idiot! Don't grab another man's woman! This was just as much about macho posturing as it was about social climbing, contracts and alliances.

@AbstractQueer

Жыл бұрын

Upward social mobility is still extremely difficult, we just like to promote the rare rags to riches stories because it supports our current economic system's narrative.

@SpukiTheLoveKitten75

Жыл бұрын

@@AbstractQueer I agree with you on that one. As a Progressive, it truly galls me how things are with the past 50 or so years of deregulation, union-busting, "Trickle Down" and other B.S. Hopefully things will get better in the near future. There has been an ongoing movement and the politics of today's millennials, zoomers and younger give me hope. The supporters of retrograde politics tend to be mostly older and they are slowly dying out. It's important to keep fighting, stay united despite our differences, never fall into voter apathy and always hold our elected officials' feet to the fire with calls and petitions after they are elected. About my original post. I should have clarified that upward social mobility was even harder than it is now, back then... but I do agree it's still very hard, now.

@Lumosnight

Жыл бұрын

‘Wealth is overrated’ no, it’s not. You live in the comforts of your home and with a nice laptop in the 21st century. Go back a couple of hundred years and you’ll really see how difficult life was. There was no middle class, you either had money or you didn’t.

@bimates2690

Жыл бұрын

@@SpukiTheLoveKitten75 "Wealth is overrated" you say that until you're homeless and/or lived in poverty. My family was fortunate enough to get out of it. If anything, marriage is overrated and should be abolished considering the origins of it. Also, she's "another man's woman"? Fck no. She doesn't belong to anyone but her own self. Edit: ah, you're a progressive.

@bimates2690

Жыл бұрын

@@Lumosnight Doesn't even need to go back in time! Just go to some countries.

In my genealogy research in the 17th to early 19th century, influential men often outlive several wives. The next wife was always young and bore several children. What is creepy is that the18-25 something wife often bears 6 to 8 children to the 40-65-year-old husband and at the end of his life he sires 4-5 deceased young children and15-18 children in total after being married three to four times. His last wife of 45 sees her husband's death and half of the total children not make it adult hood. Then the eldest son inherits the estate, and the last wife remarries and has a few more children by her older second husband.

@MrGhostTheBigRoast

Жыл бұрын

huh, women going through multiple pregnancies before the establishment of the germ theory keep dying. what a mystery. anyway, new wife time.

@mengenalrusiadengananna1866

Жыл бұрын

Yes, as I say,this fact is expressed in the painting by introducing the ghosts of two late wives . We recognise them by flowers on the head. And notice the condemning gase. So we know this is his third marriage.

@jasminkrieger8228

Жыл бұрын

Most woman had aswell risk dying at childbirth

@lucyfromsiberia

Жыл бұрын

In Russia, the wife received an inheritance after the death of her husband. And if there were children in the marriage, then most often the inheritance was divided among all the heirs. All the children and the wife received their share of the property. Therefore, the richest families for centuries remained those in which there was only one heir. According to the will, they could divide the inheritance in any way, they could leave older children without inheritance or a wife, but such wills could be challenged in court.

Very interesting idea about the ladies in the background. The wreath on the woman in white does look like a Russian Orthodox wedding wreath so the woman could indeed be the groom’s deceased wife. Cool !!

I just can't stop looking at how beautiful the lace on her dress is...

@HeyyyitsBell

Жыл бұрын

i agree it’s beautifully done

This channel is really educating, it is amazing how much art could mean for the environment back in the days

I’m learning more from your videos than I’ve ever learned in art history. You describing a piece of artwork has never been more entertaining for me. And not to mention the videos are in perfect bite size pieces without drawing it out too far and making it boring. I can’t thank you enough for creating this BRILLIANT concept for a video

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I love that this painting had a positive impact. Art had so much power. Maybe he wasnt rich, but he made a statement had a difference.

I cant help but notice how handsome the artist looks in the painting. He’s the second most beautiful person after the bride.

I'm so glad I found this channel that tells the stories of paintings in a interesting way not just a bunch of boring lectures. Well done 😁

You're definitely finding a confidence in presenting! Your work has come far. I'm a big fan, and I believe you can only get better! Thank you for sharing such unique pieces.

Thanks artist. For freeing soo many young brides

No one is better at bring out the details of a painting than you, and so enjoyably!

You’ve shown me a few amazing paintings that I had never seen before. I love your selections!

What a masterpiece of detail! Truly amazing how a whole story is told through a glance, a careless hand or the onlookers in the background. Everything is this painting serves a purpose, nothing left to chance.

I love how you explain the paintings; straight to the point and not an hour long.

I'm infatuated with your channel and your work. Thank you for presenting so many different types of paintings and making classical art accessible to all

My mother tried to arrange my marriage when I was not wedded at 22-23. I told her absolutely NOT. I was actually quite terrified that she would actually do it behind my back. ... God knows, who I would have ended up with if She had carried through with that plan to ask an uncle to send a man from her home town. Luckily I met a wonderful, wonderful man just two years younger than myself several years later... my mother wasn't happy with him and she fussed some, because he wasn't our faith nor our culture, but I told her that I was truly in love and she relented because she realized I could cut all ties with my family. Thank God, we women have such power now!

Sadly such abuse of power still happens today to many young women across the world, forced into marriages that benefited others more than the bride. At the very least, this issue was made aware and some call-to-action came from it...

you make me see art , not just pictures. you are good at this...thank you.

When she mentioned the 2 women could've been "ghosts" I thought they were 2 of his brides before the current bride which he by his own hands led to their death

@meridaskywalker7816

Жыл бұрын

How did you come to that conlusion?

This channel is excellent and more people need to see your videos. I don't know much about paintings or art but I find these fascinating and entertaining. Thanks!

Wonderfully narrated and interesting backstories! Love it!

This guy has photographic skill, I’m so blown away. It’s a great asset to truly depict this moment in a compelling way.

I'm really glad to see this channel pop off! Your analysis is so insightful, I'm learning so much and in such a fun way. Thank you for these educational and entertaining videos, can't wait for the next one!

I've never seen this painting before, it's quite beautiful and sad. But the background story was amazing, thank you.

Honestly when i first saw this painting the first thing i thought is "the bride looks very sad..:("

I also look forward to each post, you NEVER disappoint!! Thank you!

I love this channel! I knew the painting but you explaining the meaning made it even more heartbreaking to look at.

When looking at older works of art, it's important to remember the role that clothing played in people's posture. Yes, the groom is rigid, but men's clothing of the time was cut and sized to achieve exactly that effect - it pulled the shoulders up and back, and forced the back to straighten. So it's not all about attitude.

@soronume7826

Жыл бұрын

The corset she is in all likelyhood wearing, would not make her slouch comfortable, but still she is slouching. Its a painting not a photograph, if him being hunched over would have made for a better story, the artist could have depicted that. So I'd disagree, it's all attitude.

@Serai3

Жыл бұрын

@@soronume7826 I see you've never worn a corset.

@soronume7826

Жыл бұрын

@@Serai3 Actually I wear a corset every other weekend. And I know they can be very comfortable. But not every posture is comfortable in them. Slouching is not. Mens clothes of that era were not more rigid than womans clothing is all I'm saying. So if she can express her emotions via posture, so could he.

I saw this painting at the Tretyakov Gallery in Moscow. I stopped and stared at it for almost an hour before realizing I should probably move on. EDIT: I was sitting here thinking about that trip, and suddenly I recalled that I actually went back the next day _just to look at this painting some more._ Well worth the money.

I always look forward and enjoy these videos! I learn so much and because they are short I have the general story without getting to confused. I remember these stories and live sharing them. Thanks!

I love your videos so much!! Thanks you for all the time you spend researching and sharing.

I started admiring art pieces because of your videos 🥰

I've watched all of these and hoping for many more to come out, I love these kind of videos. Hearing all the details and stories about such beautiful pieces of history is too interesting not to hear about (This must take tons of time to make though ngl)

This is why I love art, you can tell so much and evoke feelings and thoughts, make statements, change perspectives, etc. Really cool analysis 🙂👍

Thank you! After years of avoidance, you're helping me love art history again!

You have an incredible gift for storytelling. Would love to see you cover other topics as well, but these painting analyses are fantastic

These videos have so much more personality that other art analysis channels'. These are so educational and entertaining💛

I love these commentaries!! keep them coming girl! I've had a rough week and these have helped me through me boring desk job!!

this is such an amazing work of art. we can see her suffering clearly. thank you for the explanation!

I'm obsessed with these Video's. They are actually so interesting and entertaining. Just well done😊

I've loved watching (and potentially binging) these painting analysis videos. The points you bring up in each video are so fascinating. I myself am not so well-versed into art history and appreciation, but it's something that I explore from time to time out of interest. No video has been uninteresting or left blank, just like the paintings you discuss in each video. I have a particular request/recommendation for a painting you can delve into next. Could you please do a video on Edward Hopper's "Hotel Room"?

This painting saved so many of the women of Europe. Thank you thank you thank you.

This painting is eery to me because I just got married and the man in the corner looks EXACTLY like my husband. It got me thinking about how if we were born in a different time we probably wouldn’t be together and looking at this painting is especially heartbreaking to me

Those two faces! (Well, 4 if you add the late wives'.) That poor girl is little more than a child, and it takes no imagination to know what is in store for her. I can't decide if the other onlookers are disapproving, or voyeuristic ... but it is an honest depiction of a horrifying reality. One can only hope that the legend of old men calling off inappropriate/opportunistic weddings is true.

So excited that you covered this painting!! It's one of my favorites :) Lovely work as always!

One of my favorite paintings!! Thank you so much for the little essay

Please never stop making these videos, they always light up my mood!

this is so entertaining yet educational. i love it ❤

Hi I love your painting videos. It’s hard to find informative yet entertaining videos these days.

Unique channel. One of the best on KZread. Thanks Art Deco. I will always be here.