Great one Clayts, thank you for the shoutout :)

@metalgearsolidsnake6978

11 ай бұрын

Spdierversrintospiderversen >49 milllioner is not cheating... this video is nonsense!

For the other way, when buying a player, add 10% sell on and then exclude it from negotiation, add 10% profit from next sale then exclude from negotiation and set the value to £0 and suggest terms. Whatever they suggest, offer exactly half of that and they will accept.

@Clayts

Жыл бұрын

Interesting

@metalgearsolidsnake6978

11 ай бұрын

Spdierversrintospiderversen >49 milllioner is not cheating... this video is nonsense!

@gytekhytk4234

10 ай бұрын

doesnt work

@SeanFerrol

10 ай бұрын

@@gytekhytk4234 think it’s been hotfixed, still works on lower div players though

@i.blomen

10 ай бұрын

@@gytekhytk4234 it does. But not always, but thats becuase of the team you are negotiating with. Ive done it hundred of times.

The Neves deal was just a bad time to sell him I think as in Feb. But the method was still there. Which was shown on Bruno's transfer. X player has wanted Icon (hopefully by a big club) Offer out just under value, reject offer. Offer out top end or above value until you get the negotiable offer. Then you can get above the value It's all about finding the ceiling without being too greedy. On my Wrexham save I managed to sell a couple of newgens with value of 60m for 100m. So really does work

@frederikbrandt424

Жыл бұрын

It’s actually really easy. Just offer them out a little above their value and if no one bids then do it again but this time target the clubs that are interested specifically, which forces them to make a decision and are more likely than not to make a negotiable deal

I’ve also found once you accept a bid, you can offer them out for higher again and sometimes another club will offer that much. Then accept the higher offer and reject the previously accepted offer. Then do it again until you fail to get a new offer as you have already accepted the highest offer so wont scare of teams.

@Clayts

Жыл бұрын

Yep - that’s essentially the auction video I mentioned in this 👍

Now this is game changing. 30 million for zagadou here i come 😂

@MiguelAlmeida_mma

Жыл бұрын

I sold him for 76M€ to Chelsea on my FM22 Sporting save :D

@Luka-cb7mh

Жыл бұрын

@@MiguelAlmeida_mma criminal

@chessgoat842

Жыл бұрын

@@Luka-cb7mhu think thats criminal i just started a new save and chelsea just bought asensio for 88m in the second season

Does it have an impact on the price if the "wanted" icon comes through transferlisting the player?

Great guide, worked straight away

This is a decent tutorial but when you get the negotiable offers it is actually much more effective to counter with semi-locked (the yellow lock) fees since that forced the AI to show their hand. Otherwise they’ll just keep trying to lowball you until they lock the offer. I’ve been able to get 50+m for players valued at below 10m by doing this. It’s especially effective when managing low reputation teams

@Clayts

Жыл бұрын

Yeah it’s a little bit contextual/situational isn’t it as with anything like this, I often use the yellow lock and you’ll see that they don’t come back at all with it etc. I haven’t found it to be much more effective but it’s worth using a combination of both and factoring that into your routines for sure.

/stonks Great vid Clayts, I sense transfer windfalls in my future!

Just tried this ony save. Had an average left back with decent (but not amazing) potential. I'm in the championship and he was wanted by a few Prem clubs. Priced between 4-6 mill. I started a low ball offer out of 2.5m. they all offered, rejected. Moved it up until I offered him out for 10 mill which teams offered and my board accepted so had no chance of negotiating. But very pleased with the outcome. Thanks for the tip 👍

Used your method in the latest DB and was able to sell a player that was transfer listed for 475K for 850K. Thanks for the video

ah excellent, now i can also in the Network Game sell players for a fair value and spend 750m per window like wlal here, in all seriousness him having me and pav stumped shows he is a genius

Lovely video!

Grt video clayts, works a treat. Doing a Man U save, transfer listed Tuanzebe at the end of season 1 4 £3m, no takers. Took him off list, offered him 4 £500k. 4 premier league clubs bid Went to Leicester 4 £15m.

@Fives179

Жыл бұрын

stop using 4 in place of "for" when you're talking about numbers, shit is super fucking confusing

@barryaczel1007

Жыл бұрын

@@Fives179 Sorry for confusing you! I would rather see a 4 instead of for, instead of foul language any day.

This has to be ur best video ever The intro, the cinematics, the plot. Amazing bro

@colouredIncognito

Жыл бұрын

'plot' 🤣🤣

I do this all the time 😂 sometimes you can offer a percentage of wages to get more teams interested then start an auction that way

This channel is like FM for dummies, and I like it 😂😂😂😂😂

Well Clayts that's nice, but what can I do with the not wanted players that I want to sell?

Needs trying with deadline day when clubs are more desperate. See if you can drive up to silly money.

Thanks! I’ll use this in my Deportivo La Coruna save

@muaddibz

Жыл бұрын

Hey! I'm doing that save as well, although in FM22. Who's your favourite player?

@Alex58399

Жыл бұрын

@@muaddibz I just started season 2, promoted on the last day on goal difference as Castilla drew to Fuenlabrada 1-1 while I beat Cultural Leonesa 6-1 Favourite player in season 1 was Gorka Santamaria. 27 goals in 33 league games. I’ve signed some good free agents and sold Trilli to my friend who’s Newcastle for £2m with a loan back clause Ian Mackay retired before the start of season 2. He’s an interesting one as he’s part Scottish but doesn’t speak English

It worked very well, just sold Pickford for 54M to Bournemouth and Dwight McNeil for 59M to Newcastle 😅

@Clayts

Жыл бұрын

Love it!

@Mr_jz_12

Жыл бұрын

that's just a standard purchase for Bournemouth. 🤣

@ricksterk7014

Жыл бұрын

This will soon be patched lol

@ricksterk7014

Жыл бұрын

@@michaeljordan5724 often when advice is this good they will

I'll try it out next time I actually have anyone of value, could be a couple of seasons :) How to deal with player reactions though? "Why did you offer me out?", "Why did you reject the bid from X?" and similar. Or even worse he rejects the contract from the new club and you are stuck with an unhappy player.

@Clayts

Жыл бұрын

Usually on the “why did you reject?” thing you can just say they didn’t offer enough and promise to accept a bid of ___. The valuations they ask for are usually way about anything you’d accept anyway. On the last part if he’s unhappy he’s more like to accept the contract 😂 but also, defo something to consider. You’ll have to take that into account before looking to offload anybody anyway.

@Draddar

Жыл бұрын

@@Clayts Yeah figured the first one out. It's just sometimes lets say club X bids 5 mil and Liverpool bid 1,5 mil. And then the player is annoyed I didn't accept Liverpool's bid and maybe even rejects club X. Then I'm basically screwed 🙃 Mostly I'm just annoyed I can't test the market without the player knowing. There are players I'd gladly sell for 20 mil, but if I can only get 5 I rather keep him. And there is no way to know in advance. In the end it's too easy to outplay the market anyway so maybe it's better this way.

I have tried this on touch and console, for some reason the AI doesn't operate in the same way compared to the PC version. Unless it is a player who has a high value the AI seems to always short the offer and won't go up

@louissouthgate5827

Жыл бұрын

Facts I can never sell my players for any value on console

Good video, maybe make one that helps with selling non wanted players..

clayts with another banger

Wow this is brilliant I’ve struggled so much with selling players, the AI always robs me.

Nice video for newbies, this is a must have skill to play fm, I'm amazed this comes as a surprise for anyone who's been playing the game for a while.

@Clayts

Жыл бұрын

I think it’s the specifics of the method - the general offering out and negotiating is an obvious thing but to specifically offer out at way below value is the difference. And to specifically follow this exact pattern will maximise the results. I get what you mean I’m not sure I’m explaining properly 😅

@gigidasha4475

Жыл бұрын

I consider myself as a veteran, back from CM days... But what i do is vice versa, lol, starting with high offer and lowering it turn by turn :) PS: will try this method

@Clayts

Жыл бұрын

@@gigidasha4475 yeah I think that’s the intuitive thing to do and what I’ve always naturally done - also a CM era vet!

Dude, just a tips When you want to choose an amount of money you can use you mouse scroll to adjust it instead of clicking up and down !

@Clayts

Жыл бұрын

I’m very aware

Thanks managed to get an extra 500k in the english lower league. it'll come handy

9:38 Estimated transfer value: £64M - £70M. 12:41 Final offer: £50M I mean....25yo key player sold for less than his estimated value, that's some business I'll never do XD But sure the trick/method does work when trying to boost AI bids.

Could do this for promising players in league 1 league 2 etc etc

Great video 👍 Question though, tried signing Onel Hernandez for a fee but got beaten to his signature by another club where he signed a pre contract agreement. Where can you offer a pre contract? Just in 1st January window with players contracts expiring at end of season but can't find it anywhere.

@Clayts

Жыл бұрын

Look for ‘approach to sign’ rather than making an offer

@gazzawozza7403

Жыл бұрын

@@Clayts I've been looking on contract offer but some have come up and others haven't. Could it be that some players you can't offer a contract due to their existing one?

@Clayts

Жыл бұрын

You can’t offer contracts to players in your own league until the summer, it’s probably that

@gazzawozza7403

Жыл бұрын

@@Clayts Cheers for that 👍 Been sat for ages wondering why it wouldn't come up. Just checked France and it's allowing me. Top man 👍

Would this work on cheaper players and also will this work to the same extent on ps5?

Does this work for lower value players? Ie 200k-2Mill?

This only works for high profile player, but still a nice tip.

Should have started off by loading the same Newcastle save up and just offering Bruno out for £50m from the off to prove it actually did anything different

Doesn't work for me, or is it just impossible to sell Man Utd players? Early in the transfer window, Everton, AC Milan and Napoli interested in Dalot. Offered out for 10mil, non-negotiable offers come in from Milan. Try again for 30mil, nothing. Went down in 2mil increments with no offers all the way back down to 10mil again when Napoli came in with a non-negotiable 8.25mil offer...

Great if the player is wanted - how do you clear through the deadwood that nobody wants!

So one of the things that is talked about in this video is if the AI has the transfer budget for a big purchase. I use a skin that shows other teams’ financials (transfer budget and wage budget) so I know exactly how much at the most they are able to pay

Clayts is a Wizard

@Clayts

Жыл бұрын

thank you

Doesn't seem to work with my lower reputation save - just got promoted with Fuenlabrada to LaLiga, but can't get rid of my backup players even close to their price (e.g. Canete suggested price is 2mil, but noone offers, since they "are only prepared to pay 875k". Same for other players - I offer them low, I get an offer from a club or two, reject, then the bigger offerings I make lead to silence from other clubs.

@welowee7610

Жыл бұрын

Same here, the problem here is that players usually angry when you transfer list them. And then force you to set certain price. We need a guide to make players on want but still generally happy to go, which is extremely rare

Nice vid

Yeah, this year selling players became much more difficult for me. Before this video😅

This isn't currently working for me, perhaps I'm doing something wrong? Before watching this video I offered Pulisic out for an unspecified fee and Bayern came back with 2.5m. Then, after watching this video I offered him out for a low price of 5m and no one even came back for him. Then I tried it with Kovacic, offered him out for 10m and managed to get his price up to just 30m, despite his market value being over 60m. Also tried this with Lukaku, started at 7.5m with hopes of getting around 40m and no one even wanted him for that price. Any tips?

Does it work on FM22 aswell?

For me, when I sell players, since I don't need the money immediately(my club is too rich and I have no players to buy) , I negotiate and sell them for only installments, I managed to sell a player to liverpool whose value is about 40m for 94m and he wasn't even a starter for my team, now Liverpool got to pay me 30m each for 3 years 😂

@gaara2255

7 ай бұрын

Criminal

Does this work on fm20 or older fm versions ?

I just do heavy installements and I make more money over time

Its 2 different things if u offer players for sale AND if clubs actually starts first to persue ur player, ,huge price diference

@Clayts

Жыл бұрын

Yes - which is what this tip/method is essentially. Through offering out the player for sale way below value you are able to leverage a clubs strong interest in a way that wouldn’t be possible if you just did nothing or if you offered out at value. It’s a very subtle change but it makes a big difference in leveraging an AI clubs firm insistence on signing a player and therefore being willing to balloon the price they’d be willing to pay.

When trying this the board took reigns and "accepted the offer on my behalf" how can i prevent this?

This work on all FM since FM 17 I’ve been doing this

Can't get this working for me. Just no movement after that first low ball bid :( Maybe doesn't work anymore on current version.

This nothing New, but it's good you show it for newbies

Is this method also working in fm23 touch?

can you do this also whit older players @clayts

how did u get the newcastle badge i cant get it

me after watching this trying it in my save - i want 10 mil for player x, team offers 2mil , i reject the offer,- player x starts a revolt - all the others players join in the mutiny and in comes the losing streak with the sack to follow.

nice selling technique but u should use installments more then u will get more

Every time I try to sell Lukaku he rejects the contract. How do I get him off the books??

Whhat skin are you using ?

I always offer 0$ first to bring as much as interest i can, after that just do the same as yours.

Perhaps you should using addons Initial price for neves might we set 30 mil And for addons set for 20 mil, for 12 months. Try it mate.

@Clayts

Жыл бұрын

Haha yes, I’m aware of add ons.

wonder will it work for my team selling for 40/50/100k and not million/ :)

Bruh, Man City just offered my Gvardiol at 128M. And before that, Real Madrid offered Palini (AP CM) 98M. Seems AI wanted to put all money on high rating and star player. Like my Dybala got offered 78M, but listed as 56M. Just because his standing at 8.13 rating and 5* star tho, even he's 33yo

do it in the non league games

No way in god's green earth how have I just sold gvardiol for 113 million pounds thank you so much

i try to use this method in my save. it is working and other clubs do keep coming with offer. but in the process of rejecting offer, the player always want to talk about not treated fairly for some reason. after accepting the bid, the player will always reject the contract offered. how to avoid this thing?

@LloydOzil

10 ай бұрын

Lower their agreed playing time and you have a better chance at persuading them to join clubs they have no interest in initially

class sold a player worth500k-850k for 975k small bit of profit :)

Do it with Harry maguire or Fred n I’ll be impressed

I just tried this and Real Madrid made a 50million€ offer for Nathan Ake at the start of the save😂

however how can i sell players that it isn't wanted yet?

I'd be very surprised if even this (admittedly) decent method worked with players with ridiculous weekly wages, like Lukaku and Sterling at Chelsea for example. Give that a go and see how you get on, I bet you'll struggle as much as I did to shift them......

This has been in the game for the better part of 4 years now 😅 didn’t really many didn’t know about Also, giving your players slightly higher wages to have an extraordinary high release clause, I’m talking $360M ish

@oghenevokemuagba2306

Жыл бұрын

So it works on fm22?

But I did accept a offer from Lyon for my player 12million pounds but he refused to leave my team Valencia fc

Does this work on console ?

Don't look AROUND the eyes don't look AROUND the eyes look into my eyes

When will we see next episode of Worchester?

Before I watched the video I sold Patrick Bamford for 50m in the January window of the first season

So I tried this method selling Almiron, and his value was 28-34 mil but I only got £32 mil max, and every time I tried to go higher like shown they just walked away. How did you get them to negotiate higher, they wouldn’t even add in instalments

@charliegorham8301

Жыл бұрын

32 mill for almiron is alot

@jonathancolling4712

Жыл бұрын

@@charliegorham8301 not really when you looked at his performances he ended up going to Real Madrid for £33mil

But will it work with my Dumbarton players if they’re wanted? 😂😂

Just sold my wonder kid who had 1 year left on his contract for 95Million his worth was 10-15 million only 21 too 😂😂 unreal

Problem is your player didn't want to join Benfica. You should have gone back to the save and offered him out for 49m to see if it made any difference.

@Clayts

Жыл бұрын

He did join Benfica

Stop using Premier League clubs. This method is best demonstrated using clubs from lesser leagues. When you can get Inter Milan to give you $76 million for Jamie Roche from IK Sirius in SWEDEN, that's a bit better example of how powerful the method is. "Look, people overpaying for players from the Premier League" is kinda akin to "I went out in the rain and got wet". In my current Schalke save, I had Chelsea want $36m for Jude Soonsup Bell. Youth player with ZERO first team experience and no caps but Benjamin Sesko can be had from RB Leipzig for $27 million. I don't think anyone with two brain cells to rub together would argue that Soonsup-Bell is better than Sesko.

how do i stop my players refusing to join other clubs. they all seem to refuse every contract offer

@MrRambopolis

Жыл бұрын

You could make them unhappy to force them out if you really wanted to. Fine them and put them in the U18s

My question is how long does it usally take?

@Clayts

Жыл бұрын

Both these deals were done on about 6 continues I think. I didn’t cut any time out of the video - just the loading time between continues

Have they patched this now so it no longer works? Selling players is nigh on impossible. If you do this method, the first offer does attract a lot of interest. But the offers that come in are usually negotiable. If you negotiate they pull out as soon as you go to his suggested value and then don't bid again. If you reject all offers and offer for higher, you get no bids. The list of interested clubs is pretty big and includes PSG, Juventus, Arsenal and Manchester United, but none of them actually bid. Player is Calvert-Lewin and he has 2 years left on his contract. I've also tried it with Alex Scott who is attracting a lot of interest anyway, but again they baulk once it goes near his suggested value and simply don't bid.

@Clayts

11 ай бұрын

I’ve actually noticed this, that first “negotiable” offer doesn’t seem to be negotiable anymore. The best bet to get around it is to try and incite an auction now I think but yes - it’s very tricky.

Any ideas how I can offload Martial & Maguire? Offered them both out for 20m even offering to pay a % of wages as everytime I have previously offered them out clubs wouldn't touch their wages. Maguire rejected 34m bid from spurs, 28m from wolves and a loan to buy proposal from Atletico. Martial no one is even entertaining. I'm on PS5 playing if anyone could help thanks

@zepar6076

Жыл бұрын

The wage is the problem.

@stephenperry4638

11 ай бұрын

Set them to un wanted, they are likely to leave then.

I’m pretty new to fm but with this I managed to sell A 32 year old Édouard Mendy for 60 mil to spurs. They originally offered 11 mil and managed to get it extremely high up I also sold Havertz for 200 mil to PSG and the original price they offered was 76 mil

@VolumeMA

Жыл бұрын

u done all of that by doing this?

Doesn’t work for me in BKT

Offer them to chinese farmer team ussually work

This doesn’t work for me. My striker worth 7.5 million got offered out for 1.5m but then the teams wont bid above 2 million for him

@zazz9999

10 ай бұрын

thats possible if that club was broke

Sucks that the game forces you to fuck with the AI like this otherwise you always get lowballed.

Zealand did a video on this 2 years ago. Shame it didn’t circulate the community like I thought it would

It doesn’t work as I am trying to sell a player for £10-12 million and PSG keep offering me 6.5million

@frozenace7

11 ай бұрын

Send him out on loan to a trash league so they can perform then sell them when they come back

Benfica would never ever offer that much money for a player. Our most expensive transfer was Darwin Núñez for €24 million.

@Clayts

Жыл бұрын

But this is a game, sir

@Guipc7

Жыл бұрын

@@Clayts Precisely. I’ve seen Benfica offering 70m€ for Adeyemi to RB Salzburg 😂

def dosent work, i did exactly as you said and teams keep low balling they dont offer what i ask after the first offer

@Clayts

Жыл бұрын

Ok but it does work as I showed in the video 🤷‍♀️ Was your player wanted in the first place?

@isaac15752

Жыл бұрын

@@Clayts yes they were all wanted

You could have got 60 if you would have put 40 mil now and 1 x 20 mil in 12 months. Sometimes you can do 6 months.

@Clayts

Жыл бұрын

No I couldn’t - I tried instalments (and everything else) by saving and reloading to test after this video

@TheDwighthindle

Жыл бұрын

@@Clayts I do a very similar method and if I get a negotiable 20 mil. Then set it to 15 mil now and 15 mil in 6 months it works.

@Clayts

Жыл бұрын

Yeah that’s the thing with all negotiating though, it doesn’t always work and it’s specific to the deal you’re negotiating. You can’t just say “you could have got this”, because I tested it on this deal and you literally couldn’t. Obviously asking for instalments is a thing though and you can often get more, but most of the time that’s not even better imo. I’d prefer the straight cash now, use it to get better players quicker and therein earn more by winning more games etc. and make more money in the long run anyway.

Isn’t working for me :(

They're not offering me that much tho they keep offering under

Hmm , isint that method morale killer ?? if i would try bargening like that about my players they would immediately complain that im overpricing them.

@Clayts

Жыл бұрын

I generally find that you can convince a player to accept a price that is way above their value. But yeah to an extent you’ll have to manage morale, but remember, their morale is no longer your concern if you sell them!

@lukaszmalinowski8675

Жыл бұрын

@@Clayts My problem is that i play in obscure league, and after each season ( fairly successfull) 11 players get offers from clubs . Problem is they trying to rob me. cause value of my players is low ( due to league reputation) . As example i sold a player for 10 mil ( his value was like 7) but since he went to UK his valuation now is 30 mil.... but in most cases i make money ( usualy sell them for double what i paid) but i get nowhere near their real value (most of my players are under 22)