Enjoy guys! Lets us know what do you think. Thanks for watching!!

@chrismoonland4022

2 жыл бұрын

nice

@Mistanyycguy

2 жыл бұрын

Misleading info, it's not illegal

@MGooGM

2 жыл бұрын

Lost a sub for this video.

@OptimusSwan

2 жыл бұрын

Honestly.... Guys.... Really!!! Hope the statistics in the comments speak for themselves...... With respect: Utter Cods Wazzel Bull Balls Bollox.

@bjjthaiboxing

2 жыл бұрын

Wing Chun is not illegal in MMA. It's simply not effective! I gouging is illegal. Fish hooking is illegal. Finger manipulation is illegal. Bitting is illegal. 12 o'clock to 6 o'clock elbow strikes are illegal. Striking the 'family jewels' is also prohibited. (Although it happens frequently.) You can lean on your opponents throat with your forearm. But ripping out their throat will land you in prison!

“Why is wing chin illegal in mma?” It isn’t, there, I saved you the time

@erikseavey9445

2 жыл бұрын

You can't even legally use any of the moves that make it actually dangerous because it requires things like eye gouging and ball squeezing so no you can't even give a proper demonstration of wing Chun in the ring. I don't know why that's so hard for some people to figure out. That and most practitioners of wing Chun aren't any where near as conditioned as these professional fighters.

@andrestrujillo6921

2 жыл бұрын

@@erikseavey9445 all things being equal, if you can’t box/brawl/grapple better than the opponent, the introduction of less than gentlemanly tactics isn’t going to change the outcome of a fight (your opponent will be in a better position to do these things). Hell, the person live drilling techniques is gonna have an advantage vs the person that can’t live drill these techniques. Early MMA events (both early UFC and Vale Tudo Brazil come to mind), didn’t have the ball squeezing restrictions, and WC didn’t do any better on these events. WC isn’t illegal in mma, some techniques (that many other martial arts have), are illegal in modern mma. WC just seems to have issues adjusting to different ranges of combat for this particular format. And that’s about as respectful as I can be with such a loaded topic.

@laughingman630

2 жыл бұрын

@@erikseavey9445 ok what about Pride... you or One? hell in the early days you where allowed to soccer sick.. you can still knee a downed opponent.. The reason Wing Chun isnt used is because it doesnt work. its a crap martial arts for self defense same with Krav Maga its crap too

@xSeonerx

2 жыл бұрын

@@andrestrujillo6921 First of all, WC was created in the mind of being the weaker, so tricks are all around in this style, and let me now write off some of the techniques that are illegal (or might be, cuz I don't know all mma rules by heart): -Biu Jee (eye gouging strike), -Fat Sao (and Fut Sao) (artery chopping strike), -strikes into the laryx (well, I guess the reason is obvious?), -Pai Jarn - elbow strike into the solar plexus (hurts af even while having chest guard on that negates most of the regular fists power - I was sparing with the body builder whose strikes were quite painful, leaving brusiers on and I was also sparring with a middle aged woman whose pai jarns hurt way more, it liretally could break your ribs just like that), -Kop Jarn (elbow strike mostly applied on the back of the head OR on the spine) -Gerk techniques (not all, but main kicking technique is knee snapping technique, and Anderson Silva is using it really often but instead snapping the knee he his the tight of the opponent) -Balls kicking technique (forgot the kicking technique name) So basicly, WC contains like 70% defence techniques and other 30% are attacking techniques that are mostly illegal so what are you saying about adapting? If Wing Chun have adapt to MMA it wouldn't be Wing Chun, but MMA (excluding wing chun). Also, Wing Chun (or, lets say Wing Tsun, because that the Yip Man Legacy style I was learning for 5 years) is trained all arond the globe in elite forces such as: FBI (USA), Marine Corps (USA), SWAT (USA), DEA (USA), RAID (France), GSG-9 (Germany), SEK (Germany), NOCS (Italy), GIP (Luxemburg), Indie anti-terrorist troops, Polish special forces, Hungary special forces - Si-Fu Szel Gabor is main instructor of their special forces (8th master degree) his master is Grand Master Si-Kung Norbert Maday (9th master degree, that took him, If I remember correctly approx. 20 years to archive, I was lucky enough to see him live also). Moreover, what do you think about Krav Maga (that is like 70% made out of wing tsun?) PS.: Elite Forces have shortned learning scheme so they don't learn the stlye for 5 years to be able to fight.

@andrestrujillo6921

2 жыл бұрын

@@xSeonerx the historicity of WC/VT aside, even if I make the concessions that those are all banned techniques now (some are, some aren’t), still doesn’t answer how it didn’t do well in early MMA where all those techniques were available, or at least not as restricted. All the forces mentioned have trained in other arts, that’s hardly a mention of any of these arts validity, and more of a concession on how good the sales team was. Krav Maga may have chun, I’m yet to see KM as a valid martial art 🤷🏻‍♂️

This channel gotta be kidding... Wing Chun is not banned in MMA, eye-gouging is illegal... and Wing Chun is not about eye-gouging... this content is ridiculously incorrect

@calamorta

2 жыл бұрын

And it still has 3 times more likes than dislikes

@TomasSab3D

2 жыл бұрын

@@calamorta the tiny number of 1k likers, who had the patience to see all of it, like it for the absurdity that made them laugh. And the quality of the click bate.

@uzithedreadpoet6777

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for clarifying. 🙏🏽

@unitedmemes4505

2 жыл бұрын

I mean Wing Chun does have eye-gouging techniques, but yeah, it's not just about eye-gouging for sure

@genebrohan2401

2 жыл бұрын

Wing Chun is about eye gouging

Wing Chun isn't banned in MMA and it's defensive movements are employed by several UFC fighters.

@bad-people6510

Ай бұрын

Well, the moves it shares in common with other martial arts anyway. You know how you can tell a Muay Thai arm trap from a Wing Chun arm trap? If it works.

@tounsicorp1487

23 күн бұрын

Key word though.. Defences. Offenses can't be used because they are "illegal" attacks by the MMA rules. Same reason why a lot of military members aren't allowed to compete as well. (they learn a lot of wingchun close quarters attacks)

@metatron107

23 күн бұрын

@@tounsicorp1487 Well yeah, MMA/UFC is a sport, not street fighting. I study Endokon Honbu Shorin Ryu and you couldn't use even a quarter of their moves in MMA.

I do wing tsun many years and I'm happy with it. I'm not going to try it in ring but on the street I'm cool my chances of resolving conflict in my favor increased dramatically.

Wing Chun is illegal in MMA in the same way that blocking someone's uppercut with your chin is illegal in Boxing.

@radioactiveassassin5218

2 жыл бұрын

lol nice one

@TypicalIndian1981

2 жыл бұрын

Nice one lol

@radioactiveassassin5218

2 жыл бұрын

one lol nice

@thetalisman4299

2 жыл бұрын

Nice lol one

@seanclark5165

2 жыл бұрын

one nice lol

They lost me when they said Wing Chun is illegal in MMA. No style is illegal in MMA, there are illegal hits like hits to the groin, eye gouging, etc. but not illegal styles.

@LPwits

2 жыл бұрын

If the martial art is only different ways of grabbing balls, than is can be banned.

@andrewsinclair7159

Жыл бұрын

Those kind of hits are the most effective techniques in wing chun. It was invented by a woman to fight off rapists.

@patty109109

Жыл бұрын

@@andrewsinclair7159 those attacks are the most effective in everything. There is no illegal style in mma.

@batman6540

Жыл бұрын

thats exactly what wing chun is, so its forbiden. Style or no style.

@siegethompson3194

Жыл бұрын

@@andrewsinclair7159 they’re no more effective than an overhand right, in fact, if you look at the totality of fighting on film, literally the most effective strike of all time is an overhand right lmfao strikes that are illegal in mma aren’t because of their efficacy, they’re illegal for fighter longevity. The damage that many eye pokes over the years can have ends careers early. A single eye poke is 50/50 whether it’s even going to have any effect at all.

Jesus he’s not saying literally illegal he’s saying the base principals of it are to kill or maim. Meaning it’s so vital and instinctual to the true style you can’t remove it. Thus you are unable to avoid some of those illegal moves. . It’s actually an unconscious competence. Meaning you don’t think you just react based on training. Based on some of these comments I know it’s gonna be a tough concept for a few of you 😂

@joscofe

Ай бұрын

Its no more vital to the style than most Southern Kung Fu familes. Total BS

@kalreynolds5829

11 күн бұрын

These things are wrong and you are being sold BS fight philosophy and thinking it's a martial art. "Vital and Instinctual to the true style". You watch too much Naruto fool. The aim of every martial art is to leverage the advantages of your body against the weaknesses of your opponent's body to injure them. Even the most "gentlemanly" of martial arts, boxing or fencing, are about concussing your opponent, inducing brain bleeds and burst ear drums to cause momentary unconsciousness and a permanent degradation of one's body. Fencing is about poking a hole in your opponent so that they no longer have the blood pressure left to fight. Not being able to eye gouge, reverse joints etc, does not make wing chun illegal. "Jesus". These are not the basics of it. These are things that are done in self defense scenarios and are done as a result of getting into a position to do so using other techniques which ARE the foundation of the style and ARE completely legal and ARE used all the time in the UFC. And they are not "vital and instinctual". Because any good martial art is about sparring. Your best sign of a fake martial art is they do not spar, making excuses about how their art is "all about killing and crippling, so we cannot practice it safely". Like how most people practice Krav Maga, one of the fakest martial arts there is. You get muscle memory, what makes something instinctive, by practicing it, thousands of times. Which is why all good MMA fighters spar heavily and frequently, because that's how you stay good at it. Excuses about how "it's deadly" or "dangerous" are weak lies, excuses that are designed to get people out of demonstrating their skills. In reality, real arts are able to be practiced with guards, and real people are able to stop an arm bar at the tap instead of breaking the joint, real people are able to hold back from jamming a thumb into an eye. These are fake martial art excuses used to avoid ever being tested, being used here. Sure, some wing chun finishing techniques are not legal in MMA, same way judo and jui jitsu guys can't just break people's arms and necks, same way that the taewkwondo and karate guys can't just kick people in the dick all day. Somehow, nobody is making excuses for these arts.

Wing Chun has its strengths. It is very effective for trapping hands techniques and in close combats. Some MMA practitioners actually use Wing Chun techniques successfully. However, it should be enhanced with other martial arts techniques. Bruce Lee saw the limitations of the art, his Jeet Kune Do is still based on lots of Wing Chun techniques but he incorporated other arts for striking when you are at long distance to close the gap. It is not about the art, it’s all about the practitioner and how he understands the martial art.

@5571Randman

3 ай бұрын

Be like water my friend :)😉

@aribaker8179

3 ай бұрын

Thank you. well said.

@glennfong984

2 ай бұрын

Since when Wing Chun involves eye gouging and throat strikes?

@Nickthegamingnerd

2 ай бұрын

That hand trapping shit hardly ever works Stick to boxing and muay thai

@Seagull425

2 ай бұрын

​@@Nickthegamingnerdyeah but the idea of blocking and striking at the same time is effective, being able to attack your opponent while blocking their attacks absolutely opens them up and wing Chun does use this a bit, if it's trained effectively you can effectively add parts of it to your arsenal.

“It’s too deadly for the ring” is the number one complete nonsense excuse.

@sammyli9456

2 жыл бұрын

Any untrained street gangster can say the same !!! (Biting neck is also a deadly technique breaking the ring's rules, but it is not beautiful, nor does it look cool when applied) ... BTW, many martial art styles keep saying the same just to invite students to build the master's fame, wealth and prosperity.

@jimberry5318

2 жыл бұрын

I invented my own unbeatable martial arts and I'm 5000-0 in fighting........so I'm not allowed in ufc

@mistycords4680

2 жыл бұрын

Kali maybe or any weapon involve martial arts hehe

@mr.random5634

2 жыл бұрын

Even boxing

@TabooRevolution13

2 жыл бұрын

Everything depends on the fighter. It's the best but nobody good has fought yet.

There is no art form that is illegal in an MMA fight, there are just attacks that are illegal. You wouldn't use attacks that are designed to cause fatal or debilitating damage in a sport. This is just a ridiculous premise.

@danielchoritz1903

2 жыл бұрын

it is his hole point, mma is a sport, whing chun does not function as a sport. it is a MARTIAL art.

@CeltyST96

2 жыл бұрын

@@danielchoritz1903 i dont like the terminology martail art, wing chun isnt a martial art imo. it is a martial style. Taichi is a martial art.

@oscarolvera9069

2 жыл бұрын

Pussys. If you can't take someone eye is it really fighting?

@canismajoris6733

2 жыл бұрын

@@danielchoritz1903 wing Chun doesn't function as a martial art either lol

@davidmelo673

2 жыл бұрын

Wing chun is a killing art. That's why it's banned. Throat punches, headbutts, knee breaking kicks, a trip and then a head stomp. It's useless without the killer moves. Wing chun is for knife fights, and other death fights. Obviously it's illegal in the ring. Some Shaolin die during the traditional monastery matches.

As this person mentions you can train it with mma in mind and utilize it but someone who classically trains it will have a very hard time removing some of the basic structure AFTER its been taught. But the same is true of many martial arts. From all over the world. All of them were made for combat and self discipline. None of them are solely for points play... we have always modified our usage to fit into the world of competition. For instance... SWEEP THE LEG is normal ... outside of a tourney and in the street. =P

i love how hes showing guys getting brutalized and KOed in MMA fights and using technique demonstrations and movie fight scenes to prove that wing chun is more dangerous xD

@elchuzalongo4339

2 жыл бұрын

MMA is 30 times more dangerous

@Quantum3691

2 жыл бұрын

The movies give WC lovers a false sense of security.

@eclipsis1999

2 жыл бұрын

@@elchuzalongo4339 Standardized MMA has too many flaws . If anyone is interested in Wing Chun , I would gladly spar anytime with any style . I'm not big on promoting any style , but if there is interest , i don't mind showing what it can do . Wing chun for self defense , and for competition is very dangerous . MMA is good , but because of the money hungry direction it has taken like boxing , it continues to grow weaker and weaker while Wing chun takes skills from more styles to continue evolving . MMA was intended to be ever growing , but has been limited , and is very rarely helpful . Look at how much damage those guys take . I have trained both styles and many more for years , I have never had an MMA fighter be able to handle my Wing chun in sparring . To be fair , i know many styles , but when i switch to using only wing chun , people never have a single answer to it .

@jrr8969

2 жыл бұрын

@@eclipsis1999 You should totally fight mma and make money and spread awareness.

@guatemalaninsanitypepper1322

2 жыл бұрын

@@elchuzalongo4339 There's literally no logic here. MMA = Mixed Martial Arts. MMA fighters don't all fight the same or even train the exact same combination of martial arts...

So glad to see everyone bashing you for lying. And the fact you don't acknowledge that your wrong speaks volumes about your character..

@6364LEGACY

2 жыл бұрын

I was thinking the same thing.

@mtbmadman187

2 жыл бұрын

Whoa.... many likes!

@DaMadMick

2 жыл бұрын

@@mtbmadman187 dont be that guy who thanks peeps for likes...its just wierd 😉😉

@mtbmadman187

2 жыл бұрын

@@DaMadMick I didn't....

@DaMadMick

2 жыл бұрын

@@mtbmadman187 well....you got close there for a sec...lol im just messin with ya

Most of these Wing Chun techniques are employed in kenpo. Kenpo is one of the most well rounded martial arts systems devised employing Shaolin Kung fu, Karate, jui jitsu( Chi Na) Chinese boxing, and elements of Wing Chun.

You’ll also see Zen Do Kai karate which translates to the best of everything, it’s an Australian karate style that was founded in the 1970s it takes the most effective moves from karate, Maui Thai, jujitsu, BBJ and a few others. They have their own spin on certain moves aswell.

Ahhh, the old classic "Our fighting style is just too deadly to ever be allowed in full-contact competition or sparring." Goes right up there with "Harnessing your Qi powers allows superhuman feats, but they don't work on nonbelievers" and "Ninjutsu gives you superpowers but true ninjas would never reveal themselves or their secrets so that's why it can never be proven"

@daviedood2503

Жыл бұрын

Nin gees, ain't real!? Da hell?

@artvandalay13

Жыл бұрын

I'd like for you to try to knock me out with your so called MMA. If I just hold my tongue a certain way I can build enough Qi power to sustain any attacks. Maybe come to my dojo and find out yourself bro. Do more research on Ninjas before you get a shuriken between your eyes without expecting it.

@xryanv

Жыл бұрын

@@artvandalay13 lol

@joffre55

Жыл бұрын

What about Muay Boran?

@ivanli6768

Жыл бұрын

@@xryanv bro wtf

Wing Chun is so effective that Bruce Lee completely abandoned most of it in favor of boxing and kickboxing techniques.

@TangoNevada

Жыл бұрын

This seems to be a Pro Wing Chun Channel. Like it's the best in the world. When any wrestler could easily take them down and rende all their techniques useless.

@bullymaguire6942

11 ай бұрын

@@TangoNevadaWing chun is good to some extent and it does work but in Ip man 3 the fight with Mike Tyson Ip man would be dead

@myselfidontagreewithyourse6306

11 ай бұрын

​@@bullymaguire6942ip man could destroy 5 Tysons 😂 he fought more than that in real life. Tyson was great but let's be realistic, ip man survived Japanese invasion...

@MartinMelikyan

11 ай бұрын

Martial arts don't do everything it's depends to you so mma kids shut your stupid mouths with your stupid mindset that kung fu not effective, only fighter can win not style, so think better before opening your stupid mouths, mma kids

@ashishhembrom3905

11 ай бұрын

​@@bullymaguire6942I already laughed when ip man could take on a muay thai fighter.

I took kenpo for a little bit and the guy you showed in the clip of kenpo on the left was my teacher. Wasn't expecting to see him lol

I was walking home drunk and got suckered by some young guy that knew he'd win easy. While gloating to his buddy I knew my only hope was choking, I couldn't box. He blacked out fairly quickly and I ended up punching the shit out of him. Rely on Instincts.

Wish KZread still showed the amount of thumbs down. Love to see that plenty of people know this guy is full of BS

@andreasmeiner4701

2 жыл бұрын

there are add-ons that allow u to gain access to the thumbs-down...btw it's 11.000 ( yeah:on point :D) actually ...and yeah ur right with the bs-part...

@drownsinkoolaid4203

2 жыл бұрын

@@andreasmeiner4701 Beat me to it! Currently at just over 12k

@Nesggy

2 жыл бұрын

18.5k likes - 12.5k dislikes

@jordruss8621

2 жыл бұрын

It's cos the option to remove comments didn't help with their fake news agenda... due to the thumbs down...

@SandaBoxing

2 жыл бұрын

He doesn't know how to fight that's why. Just unsubscribe.

I'm a wing chun practitioner. It would be hard to fit more lies and misinformation into this video than what you did. Impressive. You clearly don't understand mma, wing chun, or any of this for that matter.

@sensam6155

2 жыл бұрын

Think about that for a second. It LITERALLY would be hard to fit more lies in this video. He's not doing that by accident.

@ceejaydaniel2287

2 жыл бұрын

@Dan Jamesyou clearly missed the point

@edwardstanulevich1764

2 жыл бұрын

@Dan James depends on who I'm fighting. Another out of shape 41 year old who just does traditional martial arts for fun in his spare time? I think I've got a good chance. An amateur cage fighter who trains a few days a week while working 40+ hours at his actual job? Probably but I'd still have a puncher's chance. A professional MMA fighter who trains under multiple highly skilled coaches on a set schedule and is devoting his life to the sport of MMA? I probably wouldn't last 15 seconds. But then the pro fighter would also take you out pretty quickly too. So what's your point?

@redeyestones3738

2 жыл бұрын

The only reason for bullshit videos like this, is to make people comment. Comments take time, and his videos get play time, which in turn puts AdSense $ in his bank account. When you see trash like this, that isn't factual in any way, we should all learn to just ignore it. It's garbage.

@Haboogie

2 жыл бұрын

I knew this video was bogus when he didn't mention wrestling as one of the main martial arts used in MMA.

The oblique kick is LOVED AND REVEARED among fans and fighters alike!!!!

Wing Chun still not appearing in mma in full extent, but some guys do use similar techniques to take advantage.

a strictly wing Chun practitioner in MMA would get hammered lol

@silentassassin423

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah. It's called MMA for a reason.

@buddhabeast3508

2 жыл бұрын

obviously you never ran into one LOL SMH I get your point lots of fakes out there. Look up Rahsun Herkul from Traditional Wing Chun. Amituofo

@rmajor1515

2 жыл бұрын

@I'm not your buddy guy! maybe casual students. If you're in the big leagues 10/10 practice more then 1 art. That's not even debatable.

@Ryooken

2 жыл бұрын

@I'm not your buddy guy! Not really. Yes there are guys that do. However, if you study with system with a degree of sophistication, then you don't need anything else.

@MyFriendsAreElectric

2 жыл бұрын

As the videos points out, MMA is rules based and takes away the most effective elements of the art. What you're saying here is: "Someone that isn't allowed to use what they've trained in won't be able to compete well in the context of this specific sport against people trained entirely in this sport"

It's not illegal, just ineffective. And I trained wing chun six years. Never was taught eye gouging or throat grabbing.

@veomax1937

2 жыл бұрын

Hello Friend question, i want to learn only a few moves from a few different martial arts Styles not to fight not to defend But to Mortal Kombat finish him/neutralize/erase My opponent/enemy. Any idea which martial arts with only a few moves/combos/techniques Will give me that advantage?

@d.columbia9603

2 жыл бұрын

@@veomax1937 grow an extra set of arms and just watch and mirror all of goros moves for about 10k hours and you will be able to do all those things you desire

@me2ontube

2 жыл бұрын

@@veomax1937 try 1 finger pew pew

@kommisar.

2 жыл бұрын

@@veomax1937 BJJ or muay thai. However, get this idea out of your head that you can train a month and be some competent fighter. There are no shortcuts.

@kommisar.

2 жыл бұрын

@Tai Chi Tube They're all shit in the context of teaching proper fighting.

When I was young I met a Chinese Master of the Northern Mantis Style who is also a Chinese medicine doctor, a disciple of a famous master in Guangzhou. He said Kung Fu is not for play, it for killing. So much for the so called 'sport'.

I had very little training in wing chun and with a simple chain punch was able to get out of a difficult situation, but in sparing agains wing chun with Tia chi I was able to divert the chain punch

Wing chun is about a threat in proximity, that's why it teaches force in those types of distances.

Wing Chun as a discipline is not banned in MMA. In fact, fighters like Anderson Silva and Tony Ferguson have been known to use certain Wing Chun moves in their fights. However, certain moves in Wing Chun, like eye pokes and groin strikes, are banned in MMA

@glennmuir5617

Жыл бұрын

There have been MMA fighters who employed the Wing Chun eye poke.

@flowname

10 ай бұрын

> Wing Chun as a discipline is not banned in MMA [...] However, certain moves in Wing Chun, like eye pokes and groin strikes, are banned in MMA How to say you're bad at mathematical concepts of set theory without saying it. Fighters really are the dumbest out there.

@SanSan-ed3rb

10 ай бұрын

​@@glennmuir5617lol

@usmc8408

10 ай бұрын

Eye pokes are illegal, unless you're Jon Jones

@faxenmacher4633

9 ай бұрын

​@@usmc8408Jone Bones Eye Poke Jones

I guess this guy never heard of Xu Xiaodong (hope I spelled it right) who has travelled around China beating the crap out of so called Wing Chun experts, among many others, using his MMA training. He's even let some attack him for a while at the beginning before he destroys them.

@cloudydoesgames

2 жыл бұрын

And that guy isn't even a high level mma fighter hes like on an intermediate level and he still fucks them up

@markcarson3215

2 жыл бұрын

@Adam A. Ya. Wow, good clarification. Easy to miss this fact when watching his videos. You would easily be led to think all Kung Fu is crap against MMA. However, I’d pay lots to see some expert, real, famous Kung Fu pro from China step into the ring with a pro MMA fighter from the USA.

@markcarson3215

2 жыл бұрын

@Adam A. I’m talking about a pure Kung Fu guy that only knows KungFu getting in the ring with an MMA fighter. I tried searching for what you said but don’t see that. Just see vids like this:kzread.info/dash/bejne/hJmf0dmrf8WthKw.html

@mysonandme8424

2 жыл бұрын

@@markcarson3215 yes, it would be awesome to see how easily the kung fu only guy gets the shit kicked out of him.

@jcastro808

2 жыл бұрын

Dude is a legend

When you confuse the words illegal and ineffective.

I didn't know that Wing Chung was so lethal in thinking. That's serious stuff

Then xu xiaodong must be a super hero to beat such a deadly art in seconds

@juicicles5881

2 жыл бұрын

I love watching those. I think the difference is conditioning. He looks like a modern, highly-trained professional athlete. He's clearly in great shape. No one that he fought looked like that. That's ok, that's their fault. It didn't look like any of them spent time practicing against anything other than their own style. That's something that happens in traditional martial arts. Then they try to punch a dude that gets punched in practice all the time. On top of cardio for wrestling BJJ? One shot techniques aren't gonna work on someone with a 6 pack.

@dayman161172

2 жыл бұрын

@@juicicles5881 i know i was sarcastic. Its the training not the sixpack tyson fury proved that

@juicicles5881

2 жыл бұрын

@@dayman161172 For sure, it's training that is the major factor. It's a lot of things, put together in practice that make a difference. Someone that doesn't see hard contact in practice won't know how to deal with it. That's most of getting hit and still being able to keep fighting. Getting hit. Having ripped abs (mostly I mean strength by "ripped", definition is part of the equation but a lesser one- what you eat makes you cut, mostly, you can be effective without it. You might not have equal stamina as someone that is.) is going to make the other person want to hit you in the gut a second time less. That hurts. The first time I hit someone really strong in the gut it messed with my hand. I was definitely surprised because people in karate and tae kwon do, where I started, then wing chun went down from stuff like that. People in JKD and muay thai needed several. I learned to appreciate wrist wraps and strong abs really quick. People in those classes were a lot more in-shape and hitting them kinda hurt. Lol

@dayman161172

2 жыл бұрын

@@juicicles5881 you have done karate? Maybe some dont teach it but if you have wrong technique you will dmg you hand. If you have the right technique , angle and right structure then you hand wont hurt yourself from their body alone.You will mostly injure yourself because of your own punching power. Beeing ripped and having athletic are different things. You can still have power and stamina even more then ripped guys if you train enough. Thats why i mentioned tyson fury vs wilder. They both are athletes and fury is fat and still he had more stamina then wilder with same weight.

@juicicles5881

2 жыл бұрын

@@dayman161172 Definitely did train. Yes, you train your wrists and arms to deal with the impact of punching better. Absolutely, the angle of your punch helps you not hurt yourself. So does not punching with quite Everything, but i learned that outside karate I always thought it was a little unfair that boxers get to wrap their wrists and fists. ;) Even inject their knuckles with lidocaine before a friggin fight, but only Nevada allows that. Other states don't allow it. I only meant that it hurts your hand more to punch a rock of muscle than a big belly. Just pain, didn't say there's more chance of injury. You're right, though, either way someone that has trained *recently in getting gut shots isn't going to go down in one. It takes several. The ways to build that up are good cardio and getting hit.

This is ridiculous. Wing Chun is not illegal in any MMA fighting organization. Certainly there are techniques you can't use as there are with any martial art. I studied American Kenpo for years. I can't grab balls, gouge eyes, chop the throat, hit in the back of the head, do 12 to 6 elbows to the head, etc.. I can still enter any MMA competition I want. Seriously, I thought this was going to be click bait but to hear this claim repeated throughout the video made me laugh.

@connorperrett9559

2 жыл бұрын

@taylor If what you're saying is true it sounds like the throw knocked them out. If you try sticking your finger in a conscious person's eyes I think you'll find they move quite a lot.

@Scarecrooo

2 жыл бұрын

@NK when I read it I totally thought he is doing "sennen goroshi" to the laying opponent....ofc he wouldn't move from the embarrassment lmao

@straightupanarg6226

2 жыл бұрын

I practiced American Kempo as a kid, and still remember most of what I learned. I've been thinking about adding MA practice to my workouts, thing about Kempo is you can't really practice without a partner :(

@mc.9839

2 жыл бұрын

@taylor C'mon man, you ARE talking silly crud. While not everyone has gouged a person's eyes (I have), must of us have been poked in the eye quite severely. You DO NOT go stiff and not move. Do you think you're talking to a bunch of children? Did you use your chi power mind control them as well.

@mc.9839

2 жыл бұрын

@@straightupanarg6226 I think American Kenpo (Parker's and his lineage) is a legit style. While I can say that not everything works in a fight I can say that it taught me many concepts that absolutely work in a fight. I'm a firm believer in starting children out in a traditional MA. That's what I did before studying BJJ and MT in my 20s while in the military.

but it took me like, three seconds to google and find out wing chung isnt illegal in the mma, not banned, it's not used because it' s not practical

It has its place in its own place in a Wing Chun competition

All those technics exist in all striking martial arts , yes punches to the throat , testicles , prostate , back of the neck are part of karate , Tae Kwan do , savate etc

@elpato402

2 жыл бұрын

How the hell do you punch someone’s prostate?😆

@kain7513

2 жыл бұрын

@@elpato402 You have to learn wing chun first. Only then is it possible!

@Ryooken

2 жыл бұрын

Yes but there is a difference between having a techniques and developing a system around an understanding a lethal combat. Wing Chun is a specialist style, it was developed for close quarter combat with lethal intent.

@kain7513

2 жыл бұрын

@@Ryooken And has never worked against trained fighters.

@Ryooken

2 жыл бұрын

@@kain7513 who says it's never worked against trained Fighters? History 101: the story of Ip Man was based around the Boxer Rebellion Chinese history Wing Chun was one of the systems that was used against all comers. Again you guys think that you know because you see something on MMA with something of that nature, Trust and Believe MMA is based on a lot of things in those Fighters and hand-picked they are not the best the baddest the bravest and the Bold. I know a guy who used Wing Chun in prison. So don't tell me that it doesn't work against trained Fighters. They're trained Fighters as well.

“From fast punches, to leg kicks” Shows not a leg kick. Also, people don’t dislike Jon Jones for his leg kicks. Why would they. There are, like, a couple hundred better reasons to dislike him.

@legionmaniac-9202

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah but oblique kicks are still pretty controversial

@Whats_your_motivational

2 жыл бұрын

A lot of fighters have called Jones front kick to the knee dirty and say he’s a pos for using them.

@Nongrouli

Жыл бұрын

Bbbb

That was legit informative.

Before MMA, Bruce Lee wrote in his book that the main targets are the eyes, throat, and groin. But that's combat. In sport you have to follow the rules and forget the most effective techniques that work.

ok, wing chun is the first martial art I ever practiced and I have tremendous respect for the art, but the video is nonsense. I've noticed from other videos you are a wing chun fanatic and your points are frequently invalid on the matter. Where is it stated in MMA rules that Wing Chun is banned? Do you think that other martial arts didn't think of attacking eyes, groin and throat? Every martial art has these moves. If others can follow rules wing chun fighters should too. I think wing chun practioners don't compete sucessfully in MMA because they lack the right amount of sparring and conditioning, nothing else. And exactly because wing chun has no sport side there are no wing chun athletes with high level of physical conditioning, striking power, stamina etc. Of course there are many wing chun masters with tremendous technic, but that's good for teaching, not for competing.

@etsele8460

2 жыл бұрын

exactly!!!!

@WellingtonNZdojo

2 жыл бұрын

Big dreamer who has just discovered Bruce Lee and Wing chun.

@bongvevangelista221

2 жыл бұрын

you're right......we've seen how xiaodong pulverized numerous suppposed to be wing chun masters, they didn't have a chance.

@buddhabeast3508

2 жыл бұрын

this is why we practice with no gear or protection Teaches realistic environment and control Anyone can get a tool box knowing how to use the tools is a different story Amituofo Keep watching the elbow my friend

@Ryooken

2 жыл бұрын

You are wrong every martial arts don't have these moves. Many do but there is a difference between having moves and a system devoted to these types of techniques. You are wrong about something else too. There are plenty of guys that are devotes of Wing Chun that do spar and train hard. MMA is a sport, not a lethal combat system. It's designed to promote competition not lethal combat.

If Wing Chun is illegal in MMA, nobody told Tony Ferguson and Anderson Silva! Wing Chun is not illegal in MMA. No martial art is expressly forbidden. Only techniques such as eye gouging, throat grabbing and so on are banned. Such techniques are not exclusive to Wing Chun either. They appear in most traditional martial arts. Shotokan Karate for instance... but that didn't stop Lyoto Machida using Shotokan in MMA.

@trumplostlol3007

2 жыл бұрын

As more and more people understand BJJ, Anderson Silva is nothing. Most guys in his weight class never learned Judo or Wrestling. That's the only reason Anderson Silva dominated the game in the past. If you go down in the weight classes, you will see wrestlers dominating the game. LOL

Wing chun is mytho jutsu 😂😂😂

This is why the touchless knockout technique is not allowed.

Did you really leave out wrestling from “the most popular art forms that viewers will see?” It’s not like the majority of world champions have come from an amateur wrestling background or anything…. Big miss!

@juicicles5881

2 жыл бұрын

More world champs started in wrestling than jiu jitsu, for sure. Not that there's anything wrong with jiu jitsu... Just wrestling is a place that people train hard and are constantly pressure-tested against very aggressive opponents. You go through years of really intense practices and the people that are still doing it in college are some tough sobs. It's a good start for a world champion's Drive and work ethic

@louwaars

2 жыл бұрын

But he added savate and capoeria

@joepeters8746

2 жыл бұрын

compare the number of wrestlers who compete and the number of wing chun guys who compete. Of course their will be more wrestlers that are very physical and talented vs. the average Wing Chun guy who trains less and is less competitive

@TheILoveScotch

2 жыл бұрын

My thoughts exactly!

@samuelmeeks2158

2 жыл бұрын

I’m a Boxer so I would have left out RRRaslers too lol Yes I get beat up on Grappling nights at the Gym for some reason lol

As many of the comments have correctly observed, this video clearly shows that the people responsible for this video understand next to nothing about Wing Chun or MMA. Wing Chun is primarily about occupying center line and not meeting force with force. Many of its principles are indeed applicable in MMA, and are used frequently, but not under the banner of "Wing Chun". A PURE Wing Chun practitioner, however, would fare incredibly poorly in MMA, lacking sufficient knowledge of grappling, ground fighting, and a number of other techniques to defend themselves intelligently. Everything in fighting is about positional advantage, first and foremost. Any half-way intelligent modern martial artist understands this, and will therefore cross-train in a variety of styles and disciplines. It is entirely possible we will one day see an MMA champion who utilizes Wing Chun as their primary style, but NOT without adapting it for cage fighting. And NOT because eye-gouging, throat grabbing, ball kicking, or oblique kicks are "deadly" or "unfair" tactics, but simply because they are totally useless if you aren't in a position to execute them. In fact, these techniques are used all the time in MMA; either the fighter gets a warning, point deduction, OR they straight-up get away with it if the ref doesn't see or doesn't care. But yes; certain techniques are barred from usage in sports fighting to minimize the risk of injury. That certainly doesn't mean they aren't ever used, however.

@FormerGovernmentHuman

Жыл бұрын

Just not having a game plan for the ground is the greatest weakness of most of the eastern disciplines. They all have promise and potential when you are on your feet, but if it can’t adapt to the reality of unpredictable combat especially being taken to the ground it’s useless in a street fight and MMA. I don’t remember the quote or who said it, I think it was Bruce Lee, but it was along the lines of a “martial artist thats trained his whole life, will almost always lose to a grappler and boxer with only a year of training.”

@chonzen1764

Жыл бұрын

"Wing Chun is primarily about occupying center line and not meeting force with force. " Not really unique to Wing Chun watch any boxer working rope drill. Where boxing dominates "traditional martials arts" is techniques done off the centerline. Inside angle, outside angle, open angled, closed angled,

@kungfukonrad8710

Жыл бұрын

Word

@lordpisces5019

Жыл бұрын

A more detailed contention, one I would like you to contest if you are inclined, is that Wing Chun is a bad style for technique reasons. The contention goes: there is more bad than good in Wing Chun, the footwork and positioning is bad. What is good in Wing Chun can be found better in other martial arts: the centerline is used in all striking arts, punching off the parry is taght in Muay Thai and boxing with better set up. You suggested a fighter might use Wing Chun as a foundation. I want to know: what is uniquely good in that style?

@chonzen1764

Жыл бұрын

@@lordpisces5019 Back to fighting on the centerline. Pernell Whitaker could fight 12 rounds in a phonebooth and never get hit.

Do you have the section in the rules where it declares wing Chun masters to be banned?

Wing-Chung is a philosophy towards life and whole connection with The Force. No MMA bullies can beat that.

I did Wing Chun for two years. Learned under a Sifu who learned from Ip Chun. It’s seriously a whole bunch of ‘trust me bro’ the sifus love talking about multiple fights they’ve had like a kid on a playground, but then tell you the best fighter diffuses every situation. Then they’ll tell you we don’t spar because ‘wing Chun is designed to kill or seriously incapacitate.’ They say this as though other MARTIAL arts weren’t designed for the same reason After my first two months of Muay Thai I felt confident I was way more capable in a fight than Wing Chun, because well…we actually sparred… then you’re training for competitive fighting. Any martial art where you can fight trained fighters, from boxers to Ju Jitsu you are far more capable than most Wing Chun practitioners. You could argue I am biased because I then became a Muay Thai Coach, but at least it’s an art that practices what it preaches

@raphaellopez9290

Жыл бұрын

I learn from Feliox Leong who was taught by Ip Chun and he came to Adealide for a week and I train with at Wing Chun seminars. Wing Chun depends on how you train and what you training for.

@tilmannbeyme5049

Жыл бұрын

I agree. Most Wing Chun schools refuse to spar, which makes all of the students teachings pretty much useless. I know only of one school where there is sparring, and it is brutal. I believe they could easily do quite some damage in MMA if combined with a few bjj techniques for ground fighting since they don't really have thechniques for these situations.

@raphaellopez9290

Жыл бұрын

@@tilmannbeyme5049 wing chun without sparing is like swimming without getting in the water.

@K3dzz

Жыл бұрын

@@tilmannbeyme5049 Not sure, there was a fighter way back who did Wing Chun and got absolutely rinsed in MMA. The one thing I will say is it did give me good handspeed

@K3dzz

Жыл бұрын

@@raphaellopez9290 Idk I’ve never seen a traditional wing Chun school that promotes sparring. Chi Sau does not count IMO

Ancient Muay Thai also has eye gouging, throat striking, and nut breaking techniques. Because it is used in war to fight in battle field.

@MCAurel

Жыл бұрын

Muay Boran

@MCAurel

Жыл бұрын

A lot of m.a use eye gouging, throat grab,...

@rekartrustee4811

Жыл бұрын

Nut breaking sounds very effective..

@onequickthing8950

Жыл бұрын

My little sister could poke you in the eye. It's not a skill.

@CrystalMooGamingChannel

Жыл бұрын

@@onequickthing8950 she cant

How can I get the wooden stand to practice Wing Chun

Just to say, on my first day learning Wing Chun? I was taught Bong Sau. Swivel the incoming punch away from you, grab the punch arm with your other hand and just lean your body weight onto your arm doing your bong sau and you dislocate your opponent's elbow. Do it quickly? Which, by the end of the first day? Yeah? You can do it? You go from punch being thrown at you to dislocated apponent's elbow in under 1/2 a second. It's all just one, fluid movement. Feels good to do as well. I asked what to do after that? My Sifu said they should grab the arm and go to ground. Then just stamp or kick the head. Wing Chun man. It's absolutely brutal. And that's the real problem with it - you simply can't use it. It's all eyes, throat, balls, popping joints and elbows to a kneeling opponent's back of the neck. Or throat. And if you miss and elbow their jaw? Meh, just try again. And it's all just one fluid movement. I watched a guy do his final trials for unarmed combat before he began his pole training? Dude. He was simply devastating. He was going from punch thrown at him to kill in under 2 seconds. Wing Chun is just murder, death, kill. All the techniques are just ways of using your apponents weight to set up and deliver the death blow.

Short answer: it isn't in the slightest bit illegal in MMA. Long answer: there isn't any Wing Chun because it's a martial art designed for very different purposes. Wing chun is primarily designed for a smaller person to defend against attacks. Wing Chun has never been about offense, except to incapacitate an opponent that will attack you after you've defeated them. Wing Chun is for DEFENSE UFC craves OFFENCE Go frig yourself, you got it all wrong

@justinabajian1087

2 жыл бұрын

That and it’s not effective.

@i-v-l9335

2 жыл бұрын

Samuel Kwok called BS on this notion of WC being pure defense long ago. WC has nothing in common with Aikido philosophy. The international WC league is WC at its core.

@antoniocolvin7766

2 жыл бұрын

Wing chun was originally meant for assassination. Kicks were not in wing chun at first. It was frowned upon by the grandmasters. It was also a female martial art. The real IP man learned it from a female who was a master among grandmasters. Her style was a softer but more effective version of wing chun.

You heard it here, folks! Wing Chun is just too deadly for mma! Lmfao. This whole video is just this dude trying to cope with the fact he can't fight Also, all gun laws are unconstitutional

@Emanouche

2 жыл бұрын

@@brucef5088 Wing Shun (at least today) is absolute horse shit. Go watch some of Xu Xiaodong videos, the mma fighter who exposed the BS that traditional Chinese martial arts is, easily beating masters all over China... he even admits that as a competitive MMA fighter, he is not even that great. 😂 EDIT: here is one of the so called greatest Wing Chun masters getting his ass kicked by Xu Xiaodong. Event organizer: "We'll call it a draw". 🤣 kzread.info/dash/bejne/l4KusaSOdr2ZqLA.html

@Emanouche

2 жыл бұрын

@@brucef5088 Did you see them fight off ring? This is because these wing shun idiots keep claiming the ring disturb their balance. 😂 You'll also see them make BS excuse videos explaining why they lost, trust me these people are master of nothing and they keep losing against real fighters in fights all the time. The Krav Maga we teach soccer moms in our club is more effective than this.

@Gooberwoman

2 жыл бұрын

@@brucef5088 how are you going to do said attacks if you never trained them with another person trying to stop you. In a street fight if you have never sparred you can not take a punch or land these moves

@elsunshine9976

2 жыл бұрын

@@Gooberwoman wing chu is for otakus that want to be like naruto

@sixthesoulreaper1411

2 жыл бұрын

@@brucef5088 cope

Wing Chun techniques are illegal, not the style itself. I remember going to my first open tournament. I was told sparring would be different than what I was used to. In Win Chun class, we sparred for three minutes, no stops. Point sparring was alien and I did have to dial back a lot of what I could do.

The argument holds no water. How could you possibly spar in such a way that deadly, blinding attacks are ingrained in the muscle memory. Of course in ancient times when life was cheap and there were no human rights it was very easy. But these days?

I like how he has "master ken" who is literally a self admitted troll who jokes and makes shit up for comedic value as his brand image in the footage of how brutal and dangerous wing Chun is.

These techniques are illegal in any sport. Every fight style has some form attacks to the throat by gouging breaking bones. And wing Chung has been used in the MMA

@Grimhood

2 жыл бұрын

Agreed. I even think it's ridicolous to think, that attacks to vital points are specific to wing chun or any other martials arts. Whenever a martial art becomes a competetive full contact sports, it's no of no ones interest to cripple your opponent. However you can still attack joints, eyes, throat and testicles with many techniques and I rather get hit by some wing chun mcdojo artist than from a trained boxer or similar.

@vexmartialartsgaming7454

2 жыл бұрын

May I ask by who? I don't watch much MMA

@tobesmith7632

2 жыл бұрын

@@vexmartialartsgaming7454 there are a few of them. off the top of my head i cannot think of their names but they use techniques like front kick to the front leg as the opponent advances then followed with hand strikes. Another guy some of his hand strikes were associated with wing chung. others that might use just a stance adopted from wing chung

@anthonygerber8261

2 жыл бұрын

@@tobesmith7632 Qi La La is the only wing chun practitioner that I've ever seen NOT get destroyed in the cage. A few fighters like Anderson Silva and Tony Ferguson have done some cross training in arts like wing chun; there are even some videos of them messing around on the wooden dummy. Every wing chun/ving Tsun practitioner i know always brings them up. They both have jiujitsu and Muay Thai/kickboxing pedigrees...wing chun was an after thought, not their main system for combat in the cage.

@tobesmith7632

2 жыл бұрын

@@anthonygerber8261 I never said a wing Chung practitioner.. Wing Chung techniques have been used by a few fighters. This is why it's called mixed martial arts

People must be flocking to learn awesome eye gouging technic.

There's also a move that attack the groins, and a move that defends against groin attacks.

EVERY so called Wing Chun master gets destroyed by MMA fighters. Wing Chun is a joke

@magnuscarlsen5012

2 жыл бұрын

Very disrespectful. I hope you are a good fighter yourself.

@brucef5088

2 жыл бұрын

thats his point, you cant use it in sparring or a match because you could blind someone or explode their balls or crush their wind pipe. Wing chun isnt designed as a sport to have sparring at matches its designed to terminate someone as quick as you can. if you had someone really use wing chun with no rules someone would end up seriously hurt. Every other martialk art has rules. wing chun has no rules, this is the problem hes pointing out. the reason people in wing chun "matches" get worked is because usually they are limited as to what they can do, whereas their training there is no limitations its a very dirty style of fighting. In mma theres no hitting in back of head, eyes, throat, groin, boxing no kicking, karate no knee kicks no groin kicks, thats why he mentioned jon jones gets looked down on for the wing chun knee kicks is because you could tear someones ligmanents or bust their knee cap with that kick, its a dirty kick, thats why people cant "playfully" fight with wing chun you will end up blind or not be able to walk for 6 months or get ur throat smashed. Its dirty fighting and thats not allowed in "sport" martial arts. wing chun and silat are designed to kill and use dirty techniques they arent meant for the ring or for full speed practicing. if the wing chun people could use the illegal moves itd be a diff story guy.

@brucef5088

2 жыл бұрын

play by wing chun rules, one eye gouge ur mma fighter is useless...

Title had me rollin' 😂🤣😂 Video is good for a chuckle.

I never knew any of this. Thanks

6:30 My character in the UFC 4 game is centered around kicking the lower abdomen and legs of his opponents to destroy them entirely so they can fight anymore, rather than going for knock outs or submissions. The game doesn't prevent you from doing something loke this, but in an MMA match in real life, it would absolutely get banned because you could essily kill your opponent with a lot of the techniques in many martial arts. Capoeria, for example, can use their lethal upward kicks and a lot of the dance like techniques they have because they can instantly kill people. Muy Tai can't use a lot of their elbow or knee techniques for the same reason. Many of the Wing Chun techniques are illegal in MMA due to the same reason, which is why Wing Chun is more for self defense in street brawls or fighting hand to hand in war.

I love how all footage of mma are legendary fighters. And all footage of wing Chun is movie scenes. I have yet to see a legit video of someone winning a fight against anyone other than another winch Chun practitioner

@brucef5088

2 жыл бұрын

thats his point, you cant use it in sparring or a match because you could blind someone or explode their balls or crush their wind pipe. Wing chun isnt designed as a sport to have sparring at matches its designed to terminate someone as quick as you can. if you had someone really use wing chun with no rules someone would end up seriously hurt. Every other martialk art has rules. wing chun has no rules, this is the problem hes pointing out. the reason people in wing chun "matches" get worked is because usually they are limited as to what they can do, whereas their training there is no limitations its a very dirty style of fighting. In mma theres no hitting in back of head, eyes, throat, groin, boxing no kicking, karate no knee kicks no groin kicks, thats why he mentioned jon jones gets looked down on for the wing chun knee kicks is because you could tear someones ligmanents or bust their knee cap with that kick, its a dirty kick, thats why people cant "playfully" fight with wing chun you will end up blind or not be able to walk for 6 months or get ur throat smashed. Its dirty fighting and thats not allowed in "sport" martial arts. wing chun and silat are designed to kill and use dirty techniques they arent meant for the ring or for full speed practicing.

@brucef5088

2 жыл бұрын

play by wing chun rules, one eye gouge ur mma fighter is useless...

@bobmango8472

2 жыл бұрын

@@brucef5088 sure

@brucef5088

2 жыл бұрын

@@bobmango8472 anyone is done...wing chun included or any martial art... have you ever been poked in the eye? Twice, playing bball ive caught a finger to the eye (that more brushed me than poked me both times) and both times the guy wasnt looking and it was an accident with no power behind it. I couldnt see even with the one good eye for about 5 minutes it was just a big blur and it took me a good 10 minutes to recompose my self and not have my equilibrium off and not be dizzy and see straight. Now imagine if someone thrusted the pointy end of their fingers into both of your eyes very fast and very hard.... you would be unable to see. maybe if you were close enough and were somehow able to not instinctively shell up or look away you could bear hug the guy and slam them but i really dont know what you do in that situation. youve lost. and u can blind someone. thats why its illegal in sport fighting. trust me bro if u got an eye jab you wouldnt be able to throw an effective punch. in a cage you could blind wrestle but on the street the other person could just walk away. rather casual too

@brucef5088

2 жыл бұрын

@@bobmango8472 at the end of the day its not about style its about the individual. There are plenty of wing chun people who are better than most karate people, and there are plenty of karate people who are better than most wing chun people. I would rather have a quick, tough, conditioned and composed body than worry about what style i used (within reason no aikido etc). fights end up getting messy anyway and most "style or form" goes out the window in the heat of the moment.

How and where and when did Wing Chun become illegal? You should be talking about the rules of MMA and what strikes are illegal like hitting below the belt. Some knowledge of basic human anatomy and physics is a good start for any martial arts practitioner.

@j.d.4697

Жыл бұрын

'Murican edumecation.

It's the same question to: *Why skateboarding is illegal in the middle of 12-lane road*

They should add wing Chung to mma it will make sport more interesting. 😊

You make a very salient point. I've lost count of all the MMA champions who state on the video record how terrified they are of Wing Chun and how glad they are that it's not permitted in cage matches. Many, like Khabib Nurmagomadov and Fedor Emelianko, when asked about their success, stated quite bluntly that their success was due avoiding wing chun masters. Connor McGregor said on Joe Rogan's podcast that the mere though of facing a wing chun student makes him wet himself. Both Diaz brothers are known to have literally gone home crying to their mother when told they might have to fight an wing chun trained opponent. Gordan Ryan said he will never compete in a MMA match due to the risk of facing a wing chun opponent and therefore will forever cower in the grappling world rather than face a paragon art like wing chun. Also, everyone knows that Bruce Lee himself never practiced any other martial art except wing chun. And yes, I'm being sarcastic.

@billx4266

Жыл бұрын

@@jpssteveshanahan9572 Me too, i counted.... 0

@tonymengela3575

Жыл бұрын

youve lost count because its never been said

@tilltimm7970

Жыл бұрын

When was Conor McGregor ever on Joe rogan Podcast? 😂😂😂

@bigpoppapump8014

Жыл бұрын

@@tilltimm7970 dude, do you really not understand sarcasm? How old are you?

@samuelscherer7639

Жыл бұрын

Gold

Jones use those kicks in, almost, every fight.

@speedygogo

2 жыл бұрын

The kicks he uses are from Kenpo not Wing Chun. Jones trainer Mike Winklejohn never trained in Wing Chun. He holds something like a 3rd degree black belt in Kenpo. Those kicks come from Kenpo.

@jaketheasianguy3307

2 жыл бұрын

@@speedygogo doesn't matter where those kicks are from. Humans only have 2 arms 2 legs, of course there will be similar techniques between styles. I believe there's no such thing as exclusive Karate kicking way or Wing Chun kicking way or TKD kicking way....

@jaketheasianguy3307

2 жыл бұрын

@Alagander >WC kicks are useless Jones spam those knee stomps almost every fights to the point everyone start whining like a bunch of babies about it >Taekwondo kicks are useless High level Muay Thai, kickboxing and MMA guys has been using those head snap kicks in their fights for like 4 5 years now. All the triple spinning flashy stuffs are just practice for fun, the bread and butter TKD kicks exist in Karate, Savate, Sanda... as well. You might even want to check out Kwonkicker before jumping on the bandwagon talking about stuffs you have no knowledge about

@jaketheasianguy3307

2 жыл бұрын

@Alagander jesus, you even like your own comment. What am i expecting here

@speedygogo

2 жыл бұрын

@@jaketheasianguy3307 The problem is if everyone throws that kick you can't give Wing Chun credit for it. Wing Chun is not banned they just suck in actual fights. There are lots of videos showing this. Look up "Wing Chun versus" and watch the loses pile in. Most traditional martial arts suck in actual fights. For whatever reason the Kung Fu guys are amongst the most delusional.

the thing is, no matter how hard you punch a wing chun practitioner they can redirect the energy back so it isnt really fair....

its illegal to use mma to a wing chun practitioner

Eye gouging and throat shots aren't unique to Wing Chun. Moreover, I've never met a Wing Chun practitioner who isn't able to refrain from using either. And last, I'm not aware of Wing Chun practitioners being banned from MMA.

@handsomeguy3857

2 жыл бұрын

Its difficult to use, eye gouging, groin strike or hair pulling in a real fight bcoz of adrenaline and pressure of a fight., Some idiots there thinking about it will work, they are in a wrong place they thinking about fantasy

@theguyishere249

2 жыл бұрын

I know right. there are mma fighters who know wing chun.

@mountaintiger6945

2 жыл бұрын

They only ban practitioners who've been at it for 8yrs or more and encourage those who've been at it a year or better yet, less.

@mountaintiger6945

2 жыл бұрын

@@theguyishere249 MMA fighters who incorporate WC techniques but are not themselves WC fighters of any real time practicing.

@redz3y

2 жыл бұрын

@@handsomeguy3857 not adrenaline but rules of the game, u'll get disqualified if u do those things

Wing Chun, per se, is not illegal. It's just that some of the some of the techniques taught in Wing Chun are illegal, but that can be said for A LOT of martial arts. If you take a go to a Jiu Jitsu school that focuses on self defense and not just sport, there is plenty you can't use in an MMA ring. I've trained Krav Maga for 20 years; there is A LOT you learn in Krav Maga that you can't use in a ring. But just like Krav teaches elbow strikes to the back of the neck, for example, that doesn't mean you can't use a lot of what you can learn in Krav. It just means you can't use elbow strikes to the back of the neck, and the same would apply to any martial art that teaches that. Therefore, this video is stupid and misleading.

@bigislander72

2 жыл бұрын

Bil Jee eyes... definitely illegal lol

@calnexusdynamics

Жыл бұрын

You train hard in any form it's engraved in your DNA and there's no holding back once you in fight mode

@lillerosin2915

Жыл бұрын

@@calnexusdynamics clearly you have no understanding of how things work. if you are a master of your profession when it comes to this you will have full control over your movements and will not under any circumstances use illegal moves in a sport situation or fight. Anything else would clearly signal that you are a danger to others and should not be allowed to compete since you can not be trusted to show restraint or composure in a heated situation.

@seraphinaaizen6278

Жыл бұрын

Punching someone really hard in the back of the head is illegal. That doesn't mean that boxing is banned in MMA. There is NOTHING that Wing Chun does that boxing doesn't do better. I'd go so far as to say that Wing Chun is close to being functionally useless, which is why almost nobody uses it. Every single time someone says "this style isn't used in competition because so many of its techniques are illegal and/or too dangerous" that's code for "this style doesn't actually work in reality." You can lump Krav Maga in there too. Krav Maga is the honey badger of martial arts; internet memes and massive overhype has turned it into something it isn't. Krav Maga is basically horseshit; at best, you might go to a krav maga gym and learn a carbon copy of MMA, with a lot of machismo bulshit thrown in. At worst, you'll spend a few hours watching grown men hit each other with foam bats and call it "weapon training".

It's illegal in MMA because you have to protect yourself at all times.

I ALMOST TOOK MY NUNCHUCKS TO MY COMPUTER after hearing just 2 words from what ever SH!T I accidentally clicked on. Problem is I don't own Nunchucks. Just a space heater hooked up with an extension cord. It would have worked. Okay so I thank the10% of you who know enough to call this out, the rest of you, we all need Amazon logistics managers. So not saying college never gets things wrong but it's much better than Wiki thinking Wing Chung came from the movie IP Man. So here's what I was taught at a credible 4 year University. One of China's 1st Dynasties were taking huge loses every time they captured a Shaolin temple. 20 monks killed with no armor or simple braided silk would kill the 1st Dynasty by there accounts in the 20 to 30 people range. (History is written by the winners) Others claimed in the hundreds, the truth probably closer to the former. So one day they dragged a few out alive and demanded they teach there skill, they said no they were to busy trying to break the record of the fasted head roll in history. which it was probably pretty darn close. the last Monk said, yeah f@ck all that, what do you want to know? so he boiled the lifetime art of Shaolin Kung Fu, thousands of forms and styles into just 108 moves you can master in under a year. bare bones kung fu, not pretty, or fair, but now they had a chance, as for are trader monk, well if he sold out his own family would you ever trust him? They burned him alive upside down with a pick hammered in his mouth so he couldn't speak in his last moments. And just like all arts Martial Wing Chung has some brutal moves, and ridiculous ones too. it isn't "secret" and Steven Seagal didn't ban it like how he's banned from Waffle House. It's meant to be used super quick then you run like hell.

You can look up the rules to any combat sport organization, and see whats considered illegal. Most Martial Arts schools that emphasis Self Defense will practice most of the things on those lists and also teach you how to use those techniques with and without weapons.

@trumplostlol3007

2 жыл бұрын

The best way to defend yourself is to find ways to hit your enemy's eyes, groin, ... LOL

@erebusvonmori8050

Жыл бұрын

True, my karate style includes staff fighting, the fact I can't bring a staff into an MMA cage doesn't mean the style is banned.

I just love when people who does not know shit about fighting start talking about all the "illegal moves" in various martial arts. Wing Chun is not "illegal" in competitions, it simply does not work. Even if it was a no rules, kill or be killed competition, MMA would still be better... Also, mma fighters can eye gouge and throatpunch people too....

@King-pv8fk

2 жыл бұрын

You can't say MMA is better than Wing Chun. MMA is not a style, Wing Chun is so therefor it is not comparable. Wing Chun, like most a lot of traditional arts in itself can't be used as a style in an MMA match but you can definitely take some techniques from it to add to your MMA style, for example the hand trapping.

@Yungbull999

2 жыл бұрын

@@King-pv8fk wing chun is no match against mma wrestling because it’s useless against it

@King-pv8fk

2 жыл бұрын

​@@Yungbull999 did you even read what I just say or do you just speak without thinking about what you say?

@DreanPetruza

2 жыл бұрын

MMA is totally a style of fighting.

@HECTORARTUROA

2 жыл бұрын

@@King-pv8fk Wing Chun can be used in MMA fights.

It isn't, but it is severely restricted in effectiveness due a couple reasons (the focus on knee joint kicks which are not allowed, and much of the sensory "antenna" arm techniques don't really work very well when your palms are covered in gloves).

I'm surprised groin strikes weren't mentioned. Wing Chun strikes tend to want to strike down a center line at the weakest area of the body: eyes, throat, the solar plexus and then the groin.

Hey Brutal TV , u r giving wrong information to us , _Only some moves of WC r not allowed in mma not whole wing chun is banned....._

When he said MMA is a sport and they’re not “trying to kill you” 🤣🤣🤣

@HighAndLower

Жыл бұрын

But it's true

@buukute

Жыл бұрын

Remove the glove, you'll see the difference

Wing Chun as a discipline is not banned in MMA. In fact, fighters like Anderson Silva and Tony Ferguson have been known to use certain Wing

which fighter brung kempo to the cage?

BJJ, wrestling, Muay Thai and boxing. That's what works in MMA (by blending and cross training) because they're all full contact and pressure tested. Stuff that's too deadly to spar is generally BS.

@edgar22452

2 жыл бұрын

Yet they're banned. Obviously the dirty techniques work in the octagon. Otherwise they wouldn't be banned in the 1st place.

@dAbaPEsTA123

2 жыл бұрын

@@edgar22452 yup, fans often forget that ufc and these other fighting competitions are a sport. There’s rules and referees in every sport where there’s none in real situations. There’s a reason why Brazilian jujitsu wasn’t used at all in real life situations in the past. You can only clinch onto one person and you’re leaving yourself open to everything else.

Boxing's knockout with the jaw or the liver punch are the "secret deadly dim mak" moves that you really want to know

Wing Chun is illegal because you can make your opponent laugh until they die. Same for Aikido.

eye gouges are one of the quickest ways to end a fight lol

Firstly, Wing Chun is not illegal in MMA Secondly, the reason you don't see anyone using Wing Chun in MMA is because THAT GOOFY SHIT DOES NOT WORK.

@vinodsamala8592

2 жыл бұрын

Anderson Silva, Tony ferguson use some of the wing Chun moves. Watch tony and Pettit fight once

@joebaumgart1146

2 жыл бұрын

That's why I learned Krav Maga, Drunken style Kung Fu, Boxing, Wrestling, and sword fighting. Krav Maga literally tells you to do whatever is necessary to kill or neutralize your opponent as quickly and efficiently as possible. Drunken style kung fu teaches you to be unpredictable and gives your opponents a false sense of arrogance, boxing teaches you timing and footwork and teaches you to end a fight before it gets to the ground, wrestling teaches you to end it once it does get to the ground. Sword fighting is just a fun skill to have. I have actually been in a legit sword fight before. I didn't kill the other guy but I did show him I could have. What can I say, there can be only one.

@zapwatt

2 жыл бұрын

@@joebaumgart1146 You sound like a virgin.

@zapwatt

2 жыл бұрын

@KC [Prod. KillCXnf!rmed] How deadly can you be if you cannot decide if the art is "wing chin" or "wing chun" ? Ahhhhhhh, grasshoppa, first learn proofread, then learn baby-monkey style.

@gizagez

2 жыл бұрын

Have you learnt Wing Chun?

I remember my Muay Thai teacher teaching us 2 different ways of fighting. Competitive and street . Blocking with knees and elbows can cause serious damage to the opponent, resulting in broken hands and legs for instance.

@davilg007

Жыл бұрын

muay thai was also originally made for killing, but kicking the groin is no different from a teep to the stomach, elbowing the throat is no different than elbowing the chin, and anyone who learns a jab can just extend the two fingers and aim at the eyes, just aim differently and there you go your dEadLy mArtIal aRt is now MMA legal

@WerewolfMaster

Жыл бұрын

Muay Thai is one of most brutal ones so yeah - it is lethal. One of the most effective martial arts. Even tho I like Wing Chun more, there's less to... let's say "adapt" from Muay Thai for it to become very effective in a street fight. I'd not wanna fight Muay Thai fighter in a street fight. I have a lot of respect and understanding how effective it is. Truth is that you CAN adapt every martial art into a street fighting mode, just most of their users are like amateur dancers. They aren't self-body-aware and united with it through martial art but rather they are focusing on going with the taught "choreography", forgetting how different and unpredictable is a real fight from slow presentations. Unless you're fighting drunken man.

@AdrianRodriguez-yq4up

Жыл бұрын

@@WerewolfMaster the street martial art its dumb. Street martial art its taking a Stone and Smash skull, or knife, or 2 guys w guns. Better run the 500m.

@WerewolfMaster

Жыл бұрын

@@AdrianRodriguez-yq4up hoping your dumb legs are quick enough or you're not defending anyone. All my street fights were to defend someone like my friends or family. I'm not a unhonorable coward without dignity to leve my beaten close ones behind.

@RBPhantomTilt

Жыл бұрын

This is fucking hilarious. Your teacher was obviously a clown. BLOCKING with knees and elbows... how about laying into someone with knees and elbows. Hahahha first sign of someone who knows nothing... they talk about "street" fighting

Is ball kicking, scratching and slapping also Wing Chun?

Kool Aid for sale! Comes in "Too Deadly for MMA" Wing Chun flavour.

Wrong. Quite a few videos here on KZread of Wing Chun vs mma fighters.

So not only is the title wrong, the video is nonsense. As other comments have stated, it's not illegal in MMA. You're basically highlighting rules in MMA. You also said MMA has only been around for 20 years. And that kind of kick "may be dangerous" but it's a COMBAT SPORT - it's all dangerous. You ARE fighting for your life every time you're in a fight. Look at how many injuries happen in combat sports. People get knocked out, choked out, limbs get broken. The entire point of the sport is to incapacitate your opponent. To say that it's not an inherently dangerous sport regardless of the technique used is just inaccurate. You've lost a subscriber with this video.

@MGooGM

2 жыл бұрын

@Alagander Yeah, I already said that he was wrong. That was the entire point of my comment. Did yours have a point?

@steve00alt70

2 жыл бұрын

Is the thumbnail wrong or right?

I remember hearing about 4th degree black belts and above in Tae Kwon Do and Moo Do Kwon were illegal in the early UFC fights, due to how deadly their strikes could be.

Rashad Evans looked as if he Wing Chuned the hell out of Forest Griffen while his back was against the cage.

my sensei always told us, the best move or technique is the move practiced so many times it doesnt require any thought but instead becomes an instinctive reflex action.

@howardbartlett3026

Жыл бұрын

In the military and my Security Contractors we called that the difference between "Training Them Until They Get It Right" and "Drilling Them Until They Can't Get It Wrong". Being 1 of the youngest (5 to 20 yrs. younger than most) and smallest (5'8" 150 lbs., 5% body fat at my lightest and 215 lbs. less than 5% body fat at my max) I got "Drilled" alot!

@perrypelican9476

Жыл бұрын

@@howardbartlett3026 All thé drills will not make you effective until you are in fights with many different opponents. And even then, along comes an attacker who does things differently than you have ever seen or experienced and all your muscle memory will go against you. The best skill is know how to effectively run away from any attack. The art of escape is the most effective.

@howardbartlett3026

Жыл бұрын

@@perrypelican9476 Maybe so but one of my 2 32 mm quick rig sidearms, Barrett M82A1s or M107s ,personal M-14 or (my a family favorite) F-5 Tiger II (sidewinders, amraams,Lau 61s. Mavericks. and 20mm guns) managed to save the day. That said WE ONLY get paid if we WIN (payment is first priority). Have a nice day ! And yeah I went ahead and gave you a thumbs up anyway.

@ihiaolookihiatoo1640

Жыл бұрын

you are the first contractor i knew of that openly discussed their occupation and firearms of choice on KZread. Are you sure your aren't the hulk? You mentioned you got barrett m82a1 as you primary or m14, plus m107? 3 different guns with 3 different purposes that would be used in 3 different situations. Not sure how all 3 ended up in the same sentences. 100% of the contractor i knew are from a military back ground and you never mentioned serving anywhere. Lets cut to the chase, im calling your bull shi. Get your head outta yo arrrse and stop dreaming, you know how heavy a barrett is ? Carrying that with its .50 bmg? + 2 side arms ? M107 and m14? Man get tf outta here and stop dreaming bout missions and shi.

0:03 and I can already answer that question and save watching the entire vid. Wing Chun is not illegal in MMA. It has little to no effect in MMA, apart from a few things such as chain punching at close range, maybe oblique kicks...Ferguson mixes some into his game and it works for him. But I've seen a lot more long term practitioners of Wing Chun ditch their training and opt for weird looking 'Boxing' and Ground n Pound, the second they enter the cage 🤷‍♂️

@woomy5690

2 жыл бұрын

you know sifu salih avci ? he could smash much MMA fighters with his wing chun

@dalemsilas8425

2 жыл бұрын

The reason they have weird punches is because they are not allowed to go full wing chun, its like a boxer who has to only one arm. Wing chun is handicapped but the egos of muay thai fighters is to great, what they can't ban they hate.

@simiangimp2282

2 жыл бұрын

@@dalemsilas8425 What? I've trained both. Wing Chun is useful in some applications, in an actual fight, Muay Thai is indispensable. That's the difference.

@simiangimp2282

2 жыл бұрын

@@dalemsilas8425 They ARE allowed to go full Wing Chun...they don't, because they'd lose.

@dalemsilas8425

2 жыл бұрын

@@simiangimp2282 wing chun utilises a lot of techniques like pushing away your opponent, clowning to demoralise and brutal throat choking, in an actual fight muay thai will struggle against actual wing chun because it has become a sport rather than a means of defense for which it was originally intended.

Because nobody wants to bring a sack of marshmallows to a hammer fight.