Again, this video is NOT meant to tear down anything. Hope you guys enjoy :3

@IntersetllarElyese

7 ай бұрын

Thank goodness I got recommended your channel.

@alfonsedente9679

7 ай бұрын

Nintendo dropped the ball on this one. This could have been an awesome adult competative game.

@joelpaultre7440

7 ай бұрын

@@alfonsedente9679 Personally I disagree. we've had mostly good metas, the game is fun, and the game's mechanics work very well for a competitive game. IMO Splatoon 3 is the best Splatoon game and the second best competitive game I've ever played.

@alfonsedente9679

7 ай бұрын

@@joelpaultre7440 ahhh... "The Meta" I like to call that: "The Crutch" How does having a small pre-set selection of weapons that will statistically improve the teams performance... make a game better? Example: my team is 4 aeosprays (pros). If we have to struggle against a "meta" team of (good) players, that kinda shows that the concept of "meta" removes a bit of the randomness to the final outcome of the match. Opinions?

@joelpaultre7440

7 ай бұрын

@@alfonsedente9679 meta is generally what you expect to be good in a specific context. Competitive players tend to use options that are considered good for consistency. A bad meta is unfun. That's it. Balance can play into it, but imo a fun meta is a good meta. Plain and simple. Splat 2 final meta was bad because the game was too special heavy and the specials that were good were not fun to play against. Sorry for the overcomplicated explanation, but basically the meta is what you expect to play against and if what you play against isn't fun then the meta is bad. Also I don't agree that the meta is a crutch. Good players will beat worse players no matter what they use. It might be harder to win depending on the situation, but it just makes sense that if you want to win using what is good can be good.

"Dying" is a huge overstatement. Every game has an initial period of hype thar quickly quiets. Games are only "dying" when the player base is too small to find games and that's definitely not the case. I would expect Splatoon 3 to live for years to come!

@Joyconic

7 ай бұрын

This makes sense. That's probably what the game is experiencing at this point. I had felt that the community just wasn't as active as it was during release. Thanks for the input

@sethfeldpausch4337

7 ай бұрын

This! Even Splatoon 1 isn't technically "dead" cause I can still boot it up and find a match within roughly 5 minutes or so. It's slow, sure, but not unplayable! Sadly, it'll be gone forever(the online multiplayer) in the spring😭

@Joyconic

7 ай бұрын

@@sethfeldpausch4337 Hopefully they don't fully take away the multiplayer modes in the spring- I'd imagine it'd be something similar to what they did in Splatoon 2. Left the servers open but there weren't any more updates

@Kam64_Diel

7 ай бұрын

Well, it's "dead" to a lot of people, like me. A lot of people overplayed this game for the first 8 months of it being out. (couldn't be me) and put out the spark they had for the game. I don't see how it's an overstatement if it's dead to people. When the game dies to too many people, then it starts "dying," and it has been dying to a lot of people

@CurtisVII

7 ай бұрын

​@@Joyconic Yeah, that's not happening. There's a difference between shutting down online services and not updating the game. Splatoon 1 is on a different console. It uses different servers than Splatoon 2/3. They will be shutting down the servers for the Wii U and 3DS meaning you will no longer be able to play any online modes no matter what the game is. In the case of Splatoon 2, it's on the switch along with Splatoon 3. They won't shut down those servers because it uses the same as Splatoon 3. So basically, Splatoon 2 will only shut down if Splatoon 3 shuts down. Splatoon 2 has a lot more time

I kinda want to see a story where you are a inkling siding with the octatarians. And do levels to help with the underground cites. It's something that is definitely off but it would be a good way to see the state octatarians are in.

@Joyconic

7 ай бұрын

Yeah that'd be super cool! Personally, I've always wanted a co-op story mode, I think that would be fun lol

@keeganmcfarland7507

7 ай бұрын

That's true. Plus, Hisashi Nogami (the producer of Splatoon franchise) confirmed that Splatoon 3 will be the last Splatoon game of inklings vs octarians saga.

@Freelancer837

7 ай бұрын

That sounds kind of dumb in the sense that in that idea, we should just play as an Octarian/Octoling for it. Octavio isn't letting any Inkling join in. Callie is about as close to that as we'll get and it's more because he wanted to use her as leverage against her will.

@JamUsagi

6 ай бұрын

@@Freelancer837 Hey new games are for new ideas, as long as it's explained (maybe he had somewhat of a change of heart after being on the winning side of Calamari Inkantation, maybe he's just decided it's worth the extra squidpower) I don't see any problems with it. Personally I love the idea of getting to be part of Octarian society, a hushed underground society would be a nice change of pace from Inkopolis and the Splatlands and it's make for some great worldbuilding and potentially some unique idols.

@SimoneBellomonte

3 ай бұрын

@@keeganmcfarland7507Source? 🗿

One of the main issues I have with this game is the relatively new ranking system, and as a result, matchmaking. They’ve been ranking people down each season recently and because of this, it’s incredibly common to have x rank players in c rank lobbies, making matches one sided. I personally wouldn’t have minded if they never lowered peoples’ ranks each season because I feel like things would even out better over time, but because of this, it’s not looking like we’ll have balanced matches for the foreseeable future. Because of this, I mainly play salmon run, because I’d rather not go up against a x rank clan team on vc while my team is made up of two gold aerosprays and a brush. And it’s not just in ranked, turf is like this as well. Or at least this has been what I’ve been seeing in almost every match since they made the change

@Joyconic

7 ай бұрын

Makes sense. Matchmaking does feel quite unbalanced.

@eonstar

7 ай бұрын

You only go down one rank a season. I don't even think it's possible for someone in X to have gone all the way to C rank. 1 season is 3 months of time.

@MysteriousStranger50

5 ай бұрын

This is totally false. You lose one rank per season total. For an x rank player to be in c tier then that means they stopped playing since launch, deranked and never played back up. Sorry you just suck.

@SimoneBellomonte

3 ай бұрын

The medal system is horrible i agree, but i havent played for like 2 and / or 3 seasons at most and the lowest that i was ranked down to was S, maybe they werent as actively playing the game anymore? As in playing the game and going online but only doing Turf and / or Salmon Run as a result. Ik for a fact that you can only get de-ranked down just 1ce as a result of not going online at all, which otherwise just wouldnt explains why im still S Rank even after 2 and / or 3 seasons of not playing the game lol, but regardless i highly suspect and / or believe that those players that youve encountered in C-Ranks lobbies are either just bad players who somehow managed to rank-up thx to luck or good friends with Anarchy Opens grinds (unlikely if u ask me imho), or mostly likely just trolls and sad people who intentionally throw and rank down to ruin other peoples games, its especially bad in league lol but i honestly dk and / or cant tell in Splatoon cuz ive mostly havent met any throwers in S/S+/X Ranks lobbies if at all, so the most likely scenario is probably just that of that those players managed to rank up for 1ce at 1 point in their lives as of Splatooners playing carriers and then just ranked down and always stayed there in those ranks lol, 1ce you unlock the spill its yours forever and ive seen many people complain about this same “issue” as you do but pls trust me when i say that theres no way that theres X Ranks players down there in C-Ranks lobbies, unless you can upload a replay and / or show me that those guys are playing WAY too insanely well for their rank youre probably just having a bias situation.

@SimoneBellomonte

3 ай бұрын

@@eonstarI dont remember but 1 things for sure, if you dont go online you dont get de-ranked at all lol, source: me.

Thank you for talking about some of the main issues in the game and pointing out some that i and prolly many other people can relate to many other youtuberswill only talk about stuff theyre experiencing and its nice to see someone who talks about the stuff every player can relate to your So far i can see this channel going places keep uo the good work man!

@Joyconic

7 ай бұрын

Yeah I tried to throw stuff in there that everyone could relate to. Once again, I really appreciate the positive comment! Hope to see you in future videos!

One issue I mainly have with Splatoon 3 is the lack of content we get. Pushing events like Big Run, Eggstra work and Splatfest into the first month of each season, another splatfest would happen in the last month of the season.Challenges exist but with limited time. Other than that great video as well as great editing. Keep up the good work my guy👍

@Joyconic

7 ай бұрын

Thanks a lot. Glad you liked the editing. Yeah events do feel a bit awkward atm

@keeganmcfarland7507

7 ай бұрын

Let's hope Nintendo decides to start listening to criticism over lack of content for Splatoon 3.

@maplemiles3381

7 ай бұрын

​@@keeganmcfarland7507they are because the game is in fact growing

@maplemiles3381

7 ай бұрын

@SkarSoulYT Splatoon 3 is growing at a positive rate your living under a rock

@keeganmcfarland7507

7 ай бұрын

@maplemiles3381 Okay first of all, I'm not one of those toxic people/weak-minded people. Second of all, I'm becoming a indie game developer. And third of all, I love girls with big titties.

Getting king salmonids is so hard, I never play long enough during one rotation to get one. And even when I get one, I almost never manage to defeat it because I have no clue I can't train enough to find good techniques :((

@Joyconic

7 ай бұрын

Frrr tho. Same here 😭

I have a good feeling that when side order is finally released the popularity will spike up again but since side order is coming in Fresh season 2024 and there will only be one more season after that unless Nintendo announces more seasons I think the popularity will drop off very quickly Great video!

@Joyconic

7 ай бұрын

Yeah I do too. Personally, I'm really excited for it! Agreed, with the lack of constant updates, the game could see a huge drop off in players.

@maplemiles3381

7 ай бұрын

Nope the popularity of the game is growing

@maplemiles3381

7 ай бұрын

​@@Joyconicit's not dropping off its growing go get a reality check

splatoon was never dying though, 1 was hella active till 2, 2 was hella active till 3 even if there were no new updates, in my experience the game is even more alive rn, i can't stop playing since i came back

I stopped playing for months. Found another game interests? Being bored about the game? Sweats? Being a bad player? All of them and more

Things will probably pick back up when Side Order drops. I stopped playing, but once Side Order comes out, I'll jump right back into the game. Less than a month!

I think the most major contributing factor is actually *not* a fault of the game, but a global trend - multiplayer games in general are on a downswing in favor of single-player ones. Also, keep in mind that Google trends doesn't give anywhere *near* the full story. The existing playerbase tends to know where to get information they need, and doesn't Google it anymore.

great editing man! i love when people talk about the state of splatoon and honestly i predict the game will peak again once side order comes out and maybe nintendo will look into giving the game more life such as better quality of life updates now that the team is working on the main game

@Joyconic

7 ай бұрын

Thanks! Honestly I hope we see in influx of popularity with the DLC, and I really think we will.

@keeganmcfarland7507

7 ай бұрын

​@Joyconic Me too. Sometimes, Nintendo listen to criticism, and the more we criticize Nintendo, the sooner Nintendo will address those issues.

@maplemiles3381

7 ай бұрын

@cookis3326 Splatoon 3 is doing amazing in it's current state

Another massive issue I have is that Nintendo isn’t listening to what the community is begging for. They just assume that because they made the game, and not the community, the fans shouldn’t have to have any input on the decision makings for the game

@Joyconic

7 ай бұрын

I completely agree with that 👍🏻

@giganticmoon

7 ай бұрын

They choose what to nerf and buff based on who wins a Turf War tournament, Koshien. That’s why most weapons get strange buffs and nerfs.

@keeganmcfarland7507

7 ай бұрын

Sometimes, it's better to criticize Nintendo, and the more we criticize Nintendo, the sooner Nintendo will address those issues.

@giganticmoon

7 ай бұрын

@@keeganmcfarland7507 I know what you mean, but when has that ever actually happened outside of a few cases?

@kory8804

7 ай бұрын

Capitalism be like

Honestly i didnt spend that much time on splatoon 2 (i mostly played hero mode and played turf war a few times) but i can say that every time i played it i never once got a single communication error,and in 3 i stuggled to even get to play my 1st game of turf so i could change my name,hopefully they will change the connection system or give pkayers the option to switch from p2p and servers so that the game can be more fun and less frustrating to play sometimes and i feel like its worth mentioning that i got a 70 minute ban oce cause of disconnections in the last 30 seconds of the game But other than my villain rant id like to say that your videos so far are very good and informative hope to see this channel grow a lot

@Joyconic

7 ай бұрын

I totally relate to that, rarely ever got communication errors in 2. Honestly feels like they downgraded in this game. 70 MINUTES?? Oh my goodness that's horrible- RIP. Thanks for dropping a comment and for the kind words! it means a lot!

S3 netcode is the reason why i don't even bother playing ranked.

While I don’t exactly think “dying” is the right term to use (it’s almost click bait, IMHO), the points you raise are valid indeed. However, it all a matter of keeping a steady player base in the long run that counts. And even if the numbers aren’t hugely high, they are managing to keep a long term mean stability, with peaks and valleys. Besides, Nintendo has announced from the start that there would be two years of updates. And my guess is that once all is said and done, we’ll be able to collect all missing content from past catalogues.

@maplemiles3381

6 ай бұрын

The game is keeping a vast majority hooked to the game and this season is fire

I love how just 1 KZread shorts video of Squid School (a well known Splatoon KZreadr) tears down pretty much everything said here (still very good editing and I hope you do well on KZread)

the killer is the marketing. always has been.

The disconnects that cause me to lose exp and currency I earned during the match thus wasting my time, along with the sweat matches and bad maps is why I just can’t bring myself back to S3.

no idea if anyone pointed this out, has anyone noticed the "hammer" Nintendo drops when you dc is now just flat out ten minutes? when did that happen?? didn't it use to be five for one dc? my wifi's good before anyone says it isn't, but I've also gotten that wait time before the matches even started, how's that possible man? like bro😂

I personally love splatoon and always have ever since it came out in 2015 but im not gonna lie that i dislike the desert setting of splatoon 3 and wouldve loved to see a beach/ocean setting kinda like project splatoon 3 by alexis pflaum. Just my opinion tho would like to see others’ opinion on this.

Great points! For me, this game was just the tipping point for me to realize I don't like Splatoon's map rotation system. I play a lot of plat 2 and 3, but once everything lost the appeal of being new and I found my favorite maps and game modes it became annoying that I had to wait for a lucky rotation to play what I want. Manta Maria is my favorite stage and I haven't been able to play it for weeks because I'm not on when it's in rotation and that's annoying. I pretty much now just play rainmaker and splat zones. If there's a rotation without those or the maps aren't fun I'll just play something else and not waste time dealing with it. I'll be back for side order but besides that I'm not going back to splatoon often nowadays. Too many unfun maps and modes for me.

@Joyconic

7 ай бұрын

Maps were one of the bigger issues for me too. They kinda feel stale at this point.

@the.littlest.toaster

7 ай бұрын

Yeah the maps are so bad even the salmon run maps are stupid except one stockeye station

Seriously underrated content, I 100% agree with everything in here, theres a lot of issues but in the end we still love this game. Good work!

@Joyconic

7 ай бұрын

Appreciate it man! Thanks for the comment!

@veryepic2

7 ай бұрын

@@JoyconicIm wondering whether if you are interested in a collab since our channels are really similar and I think it would be fun. Let me know if youre interested!

@robotoboy30

4 ай бұрын

He plagiarized this video.

There’s nothing much go do except kind of waiting for big runs and leaving up, I actually haven’t been playing in a while. But when side order comes out, I believe the community will rise again and I’m very excited for the DLC

@maplemiles3381

6 ай бұрын

The game is not even dying at all its growing

It's funny! I just started playing Splatoon 2 again and I had way more fun with it than I've had for the last couple of seasons in 3. I'm hoping the 4th installment takes a lot of good from three, but also takes a helping of inspiration from 2. Especially regarding how ranked is handled now, I wish it would go back to the previous formula.

@Joyconic

7 ай бұрын

Yeah, makes sense honestly. Splatoon 2 was so much more fresh than Splatoon 3. Also, there were less communication errors, so that probably made it more fun lol.

I think splatfests are not interesting enough for most casual players. The splatfest music, themes and Deep cut influence are really cool. But from a gameplay perspective, its just playing splat battle a few hundred times within a splatfest weekend. I love splatoon 3, and every idol + splatfest get cooler ideas every year. But splatfest splat battle gets old real quick, they really need to make sure splatoon 4 splatfests have interesting modes other than splat battles, or at least make splatfest splat battles different from regular splat battles

Games naturally always see a drop off in player interest and active players that play say, more than three days a week. Perhaps the FOMO and Catalog has helped keep player interest up. Curious which one is better, the slow drip every week or two from Splatoon 2 or seasons like 3. Couldn’t agree more with Splatfests from 2 being more engaging and interesting with Shifty Stations. The Tri-Color concept just doesn’t work as well imo. Nintendo hasn’t forgotten Splatoon. They aren’t marketing it as hard as Pikmin 4 and Mario Wonder here in Osaka, Japan. They did however release new merch based on Salmon Run in stores. So they are likely saving the marketing campaign for when Side Order gets a release date.

@Joyconic

7 ай бұрын

Agree with everything you said here. Personally I enjoyed logging on and every couple of weeks seeing a few new weapons or maps added in 2. Ahh sounds interesting, thanks for the insight!

Idk i barely expearienced any problems with matchmaking or anything, it might be directed towards where people live, but i did notice that they improved the Communication error before, so i guess its based around luck.....

*20$ a year*

@Joyconic

7 ай бұрын

lolll ikr?

You make great points but I would say that it’s still alive. Obviously there’s gonna be some stats going down because people have lives. When Splatoon 3 came out it was the end of summer and people were just settling in. On top of that when it first came out it was hype. Once side order comes out then it will go up again

Heya, completely outside perspective here. (Quit at the first season, planning on returning for side order.) I'll be honest here, the reason why i quit was it got boring to some degree. I really enjoyed singleplayer, but the other modes got repetitive, so i ended up just... not playing (also the tenta missile meta happening at the time didn't help lol.)

The reason I don't play it is the control. I can't put a finger on it but there us just something about the control mechanism I can't quite "get". It doesn't feel snappy enough.

I actually disagree with the idea that the hero mode was an upgrade with Splatoon 3. It's just a poor man's version of Octo Expansion. OE was just way better. Deep Cut's role in the story felt forced and unimportant, they just showed up to show up. The levels make no sense and have no reason for being done this time around. The whole mammalian goo thing and mamalians were hyped up before release, but I quite literally forgot it was a thing until the finality. And even then, it didn't really play in why all of it was happening either, I simply just remembered it existed on my own randomly. It played next to no role in the story, besides just being a small thing Grizz would use in his final plan. The final level (which is just a simplified OE final level) was the only real level of Splatoon 3 that mattered. Even getting the treasure from fightin Deep Cut didn't really matter and was just tact on so that they had a place. Splatoon 3 was sadly as a whole just a "one step forward, two steps back" game.

Another thing that the game is getting right (but could do better) are the maps. Like you said initially, many maps are boring and plain, following a simple tetris-shape layout. But Splatoon has actually come out with some really great original maps recently, such as Shipshape Cargo Co. and Robo ROM-en having INCREDIBLE layouts, especially ROM-en, and them actually redesigning Manta Maria to a more diverse stage instead of its previous baren design; it could still be BETTER, don't get me wrong, Manta Mairo is Splat 1 was AMAZING but it's a huge step in the right direction. I think that the best way to save splatoon is fix the online issue, fix the map issue, SERIOUSLY improve on the matchmaking, and bring more flair into the game because right now, yeah it's very similar to Splat 2. If they would only add a new game mode and keep it consistent then it would seriously diversify it from Splat 2, like a new ranked mode or even the Challenges they have going on right now, but change their limited time to being available 24/7. Idk, this is my favorite Nintendo series by far and I really want them to go far instead of just slowly fade into obscurity, its an amazing game, it just needs a few more quirks.

@maplemiles3381

6 ай бұрын

This series is going far and not going into obscurity this games current season is aging like whisky and living up to it's hype

I feel like a big part of getting into any game is the community, and as of right now, the Splatoon community feels very toxic. There are a lot of people getting mad over things like Splatfest results, idols, and even things like whether or not someone uses motion controls. Toxicity can be very prominent and forefront in a community even if its just a small part simply due to how fast it spreads and just how prominent negative things tend to be over positive things. Seeing so much negativity in a community about a game of overevolved cephalopods having nerf gun battles can really turn someone away from getting into a game or series.

@dusk__phoenix

7 ай бұрын

I’d have to agree with you, and that’s exactly why i haven’t been playing as often. I just hate the current state of the fandom, be it the discourse around Frye’s loss streak, the straight out online bullying surrounding the game, and just how unfriendly the game can be in total. Sure, I’ll still participate in ranked every once in a while, and also do Splatfest, but as the toxicity has grown, I’ve just turned away from the game. I love the game, I just hate the toxicity.

@--spiritofthehawk3997

7 ай бұрын

I totally agree with you. Toxic af. Add the brutal spawn camping, the horrible matchmaking system and the well known connection issues and you have the perfect recipe for frustration. The only ranked mode I do is splat zones. A few turf war to advance in my catalog and some salmon run to get chunks. I really appreciated story mode tho

@dusk__phoenix

7 ай бұрын

@@--spiritofthehawk3997 Story mode was definitely fun, unlike the spawn camping. I’ve gotten backlash from people who do it saying, “well, there’s nothing left to do”, or “just get good”, rather than seeing how it’s not fair that the game isn’t progressing as it should. It’s why if I’m on a team that’s spawncamping, I stay back to paint rather than splat.

@--spiritofthehawk3997

7 ай бұрын

@@dusk__phoenix I'd also rather paint than splat if I'm in a winning team, is not a coincidence that my main weapon is golden airbrush. The "just get good" advice always pisses me of... it's like to say "get a well paid job" to a temporary worker. Seriously I preferred defeating all those octolings in After Alterna than facing these toxic players...

@dusk__phoenix

7 ай бұрын

@@--spiritofthehawk3997 I’d prefer girl power station over bozos that make this community toxic-

Honestly, the biggest thing I want Splatoon 4 to change is that I want its story mode to actually take place somewhere. Splatoon levels are almost all just "We made a random level of floating geometry that doesn't really make sense how or why it exists, but these are the levels you need to play, so you play them." It needs more levels like the final level of Splatoon 3 or OE, where it's level design but in an actual place in the setting. Instead of just Agent 4 hopping into a grate and fighting Octarians on random geometry that has no reason to exist, you should be fighting them throughout an actual Octarian base or something. I love this game and series, but the devs just keep it half-baked. Not to mention the obvious problem that this team does not have enough employees to support Splatoon and Animal Crossing at the same time, so it's just ruining both series instead.

@maplemiles3381

7 ай бұрын

Splatoon 3 is not being half baked

Honestly splatoon is one of my HUGEE hyperfixtations and if i dont get to talk to anybody about it im going to explode. Im glad that i found friends with my same interests but im sad that splatoon is getting less popular D:

i absolutely love the splatoon series and everything they did to improve 3 (most notably aesthetics wise, as im an artist). the gameplay is so fun but i saw myself in the exact same cycle as splatoon 2. get insanely hyped on release, experience the spectacular world building and addictive multiplayer, basically indulge myself in the game, then quit after a few months playing it daily out of frustration that i can never get better or play competitively because of how bad the connection is. man, this game is so good but i just cant get over the frustration of dcing 3 or 4 times an hour or having no precision because everyones playing on different timelines.

It’s not really dying, it’s just that when it came out, tons of people bought it out of hype, and over time, only the hardcore Splatoon fans and newcomers ended up staying. It’s still a very popular game among Splatoon fans

@greencat3800

6 ай бұрын

Agreed.

I didn’t actually know there was a downturn. Couldn’t tell when playing it but I must admit while I still play it, I don’t AS much as I did Splatoon 2. I think part of that is the irritation from the intense grinding you gotta do to get anywhere in it. It starts feeling like work.

Reminds me of when people say that Smash is dying. Always an overreaction

Great video. It was awesome. I liked how you explained it 🎉🙌👏

@Joyconic

7 ай бұрын

Cheers! So glad you liked it! Thanks for the kind comment :3

Haven't touched this game in many months, maybe even a year but I am willing to play side order the first minute it releases like ovto expansion. I hope it will be as fun and at least as long (Octo Ex took me about 3 hours for a normal run )

2:44 my instant reaction “AAAAAAA” Screaming in pain

I never like the octo expansion because of how hard it was to beat the entire dlc

@the.littlest.toaster

7 ай бұрын

Hahaha man i feel you i remember i was like i have to beat this i paid for this. some of those levels i won by pure chance 😭

I physically said out loud “that’s what I’m saying!” When you said that gold badges for big run were really hard to get in solo queue.

@Joyconic

7 ай бұрын

lol 😂 Yeah it’s so unnecessary how hard it is to get

@ryankfg4762

7 ай бұрын

They’re supposed to be “hard” if you aren’t in eggsecutive VP it’s going to be impossible to get them… it only took me the first day to get the “gold” egg last big run. There’s a known bug that they’re struggling to fix where everyone got the wrong trophy.

@the.littlest.toaster

7 ай бұрын

I got it first try somehow it was way too easy then as i got into vp 200 it felt impossible to get a higher score

The game is still very active online. Most of the people who would have bought it bought it by now but it is still a popular seller. There are still a lot of matches. Not a game on the level of Fortnite but it is not a violent game so I can play the game around my kids.

but what if i dont want it to die

@Joyconic

7 ай бұрын

It might listen to you if you ask nicely

@agentoomi2

7 ай бұрын

@@Joyconicspwapoon thwee, pwease don’t die :3

@maplemiles3381

7 ай бұрын

​@@agentoomi2splatoon 3 is growing your just here to gloat for nothing

A few of my own points: Splatoon 3's improvements are almost 100% back-end improvements. Complete graphics overhaul Major Salmon Run rework New Engine (for better or worse) Reworked Update Cycle. Frankly, it's impressive to see how far they are pushing the Switch with the upgrades they made, but it came at the cost of any REAL new content that isn't just remixed old stuff (challenges, Tri-Color, Etc) On the plus side, the single player modes both appear to be pushing new ways of playing the game that weren't done yet. I will say that there are things which were just flat-put bad decisions that actively harmed the playerbase. Every "new" mode aside from Hero Mode is time-locked. If it was just one or two, it'd be understandable, but out of the 4 "new" modes introduced, all 4 are time locked, and one of them replaced a previously permanent mode. Big Run is the only one I'd consider to use the "limited time" thing right. The Catalog System is actually a really smart idea, but isn't utilized to it's fullest. (You're telling me that NO-ONE thought to give some weapons skins based on each season's theme exclusive to catalogs?!?). The new update cycle is horrid and actively pushes players away from consistantly playing. I won't delve much into the map/second kit issues (I am a Bamboozler main so the urge is strong), but the New or Heavily Reworked stages really need more to make them stand out from eachother, and Support Subs remain in desperate need of reworks. This last point isn't technically because of Splat3, but... The lack of any spinoff games kinda hurts the series at this point. I'd kill for a JRPG that takes place during the Great Turf War, or a 2D platformer where certain weapon classes can be used to platform. This isn't a issue with Splatoon3, but moreso an issue with the franchise currently.

@maplemiles3381

6 ай бұрын

The new update cycle is keeping players hooked

@Typi

6 ай бұрын

@@maplemiles3381 Hard disagree. 3 months instead of the 1 month cycle is terrible. Less overall content per update and it's a longer wait between content drops, causing the game to stagnate and lose players.

@maplemiles3381

6 ай бұрын

Stagnant means it levels off and recently splatoon 3 is gaining more and more players per update the updates offer a lot which is each season is gaining more positive feedback and it's not because "people are accepting the fact that splatoon 3 is a lost cause" like most of you say on reddit.

I wanna see what it was like during the Great Turf War

The peer to peer issue is the most glaring issue with the appeal of splatoon. If you barely play the game enough to complete the catalog why do you expect to be in the top 20% of players in big run? The catalog issue is addressed in recent catalogs with repeated gear.

@normanred9212

6 ай бұрын

I have to disagree with the catalog, it is absolutely disgusting to have repeats and insulting to us who play regularly. After a reason the gear should just be added in the store. The catalogs should ONLY have new stuff. Splatoon 3, outside of the main story, is a massively lazily made pos

@glorbandavis2163

6 ай бұрын

true

One thing that will bring me back to the game is if they added rank battles to splatfest. Game has gotten pretty boring because of bad players being everywhere. I don’t have a problem getting them, but I always seem to get the dumb ones every time.

This is a really simple answer to me. No permanent new mode. The only new modes and features they have brought into Splatoon 3 have been time-limited events that not everyone can play for a number of reasons. Big Runs, Challenges, Eggstra Work and even the Fizzabang feature all COULD’VE been new permanent anarchy modes but Nintendo chose to exploit FOMO instead. I play the game almost every week (and have had the game since launch) and STILL haven’t had the chance to play any Eggstra work. The most disappointing part is no new permanent anarchy mode. I really expected that we’d have AT LEAST one before the end of the game’s update cycle (I even expected one to be revealed before the launch of the whole game in the Direct!) but that’s not going to happen. Even modes like Big Run, I thought they’d make these into permanent modes after new ones stopped but it doesn’t look like this is happening either when it could, and would improve the game.

Ive definitely been falling out of splatoon 3, its getting boring and frustrating tbh

@Joyconic

7 ай бұрын

Fair

In my eyes the main problem really is their poor marketing and lack of publicity anywhere that isn't Japan

Big run is now a little too easy. It used to be top 5% which is an impressive achievement. They could’ve at least made separate badges for the golden trophy and top 5%. That’s how it is for x rank.

2:30 i dont think it should be easier to get catalog lvls as someone who doesnt grind just plays like 2-3h a day on weekends and like 1-2h on the work days and i average lvl 300

for me, i religiously played splatoon 1 and 2, like i played enough to be in x rank in all 4 modes. But when 3 came out, not only was I busy with college, but they didnt really add anything super new to keep me coming back. Specifically, some more ranked modes and several more vastly different weapon types wouldve kept me playing. I love the game, but I dont feel the need to make time for it basically.

Nice editing. Also, you couldn’t have put it better

@Joyconic

7 ай бұрын

Thank you! Glad you enjoyed it! :D

I think everyone just doesn't are about anything except side order right now and just set the hame down for now until side order comes out its not dying its on a break

Salmon run definitly needs some more tweaks, like better customization IE choosing your own weapons so those not interested in competitive play have a PVE mode to enjoy

@Joyconic

7 ай бұрын

Salmon run feels like it's lacking. I think those would be a great addition.

Honestly, I basically stopped playing when I saw Story Mode of Splat 3. It literally just felt like octo expansion all over again and I dont like it.

The first point you made was the entire reason I didn't buy Splatoon 3. Didn't feel like a big enough jump like 1 to 2 did. Too much recycled stuff not enough new.

Shifty Stations absolutely needs to come back in the next game. Splatfests needs to go back to being two teams, we've all seen what three teams is doing so far and how two of the hosts are barely getting any Splatfests wins.

I stopped playing due to me being a rage player

@Joyconic

7 ай бұрын

Oh no- yeah Splatoon can be quite frustrating at times lol

The game has just gotten so stale, no new modes, unique weapons, nor unique maps that aren’t another god damn Tetris block

I actually don't remember the last time I've gotten DCed lol

@Joyconic

7 ай бұрын

Literally how??? lol I can't go a session without getting DC'ed

@catguy4996

7 ай бұрын

Me neither. Some people just have poor Internet I guess

The only reason i quit was because of Nintendo Online

Personnaly I stoped playing because I was not performing well, the other players were much stronger than me, I was getting destroyed again and again and I was not having fun anymore, so I decided to just stop trying (for those wondering yeah this count as a massive skill issue). Also the community on social media is unbearable but that another topic

I feel like they should use the Wii U online servers for the Switch servers when Wii u gets discontinued in April

@Joyconic

7 ай бұрын

Honestly yeah, never really experienced any issues with Splatoon 1

Ngl been waiting for DLC, gets stale between splatfests and even the splatfests feel like they have no life because themes RARELY matter anymore because its a popularity contest that usually favors Shiver. Its not fun anymore

@Joyconic

6 ай бұрын

Yeah, makes sense. Splatfests are heavily rigged in favor of shiver. Fortunately, I don't think she'll take the win this time, they're basically GIVING it to Frye.

@HeDronHeDronHedron

6 ай бұрын

@@Joyconic well neither of them won

This game is NOT dying. Yes, it’s not at its PPC because the hype died down, but if I still get into lobbies in A+, then I’m pretty sure it’s not dead. Yes, you explained the issues, but the game isn’t dead. Wait for SO to release, THEN people will (probably?) not say the game is dead. edit: The video was good though, keep it up!

@Joyconic

7 ай бұрын

Fair. I do think Side Order will really bring back some activity to the community. Thanks! I'll try to address better points in my next video

i get matched in seconds i dont think its dying dude

It’s even worse because of Splat 1 ending soon, and 2 being dead because of 3. But, it may bring some people to the two games on switch. I do think most will just stick to hero mode, though, and I don’t blame them. I love splat 1, favorite game to ever exist and I haven’t even played, I’ve never had a Wii U, and even though TotK came out ON my birthday, splat 1 just feels more like my game, it feels like my “turf”, y’know? I can’t help but cry at the thought of losing the most precious thing to me. I almost got a little of track there, sorry, I’m just going to go cry now.

@Joyconic

7 ай бұрын

Ikkk I'm so sad about that too. I literally grew up on splatoon 1, and it's gonna *hurt* to watch it go. That was my game too :(

@maplemiles3381

7 ай бұрын

I heard more go to salmon run so Splatoon 3 is not a dead game your just here to gloat because of the title

1600hrs played of Splat2 0hrs of Splat3

Splatoon please don’t die on me

Bro if the devs hired me I’d crack down on everything content wise. idek where to start with all my ideas

I enjoyed Splatoon so much for a long time but then the matchmaking kept getting worse and worse, and then they did something to the spawn rates in Salmon Run too and it's just unplayable and unfun anymore to me, so I don't play much now. Not to mention the stupid communication errors, like you mentioned. Every time something is good for once, I get screwed over. Splatoon became more of a source of anger and frustration than fun to me.

The problem is Nintendo.

I sadly agree with this........

@maplemiles3381

6 ай бұрын

The game is not dying at all for a matter of fact it's growing at a positive rate

how can you call this game "dead" if you're only focusing on US states, i have followed the splatoon franchise in central america, and im sure a ton of players come from Japan as well.. please dont centralize the USA as the only region in the world that matters!!

@Sunflowr_Bot

6 ай бұрын

You do realize that Europian players exist aswell + good comment

this is a nice video. thanks for explaining this

@Joyconic

7 ай бұрын

Thank you! Glad you enjoyed it! :D

i just want my Pearl back 7.,(

I also love the series to death but I don’t or can play it multiple hours daily like 3-4 people in my local community. I have other things to do.

Ngl, ik this is a dumb take and I have a massive skill issue, but maybe getting rid of motion controls would be better, cause casual genuinely feels like ranked with how EVERYONE is able to just do a 180 and one shot me. Kinda just... ruins the fun of a console game. The main deal with those kinda games is the fact you DONT use mouse and keyboard, but with motion controls if you didn't use them day one of playing you're always at a disadvantage

@HeDronHeDronHedron

4 ай бұрын

Bro reading this actually made my day thanks man

@LoxaDAxol

4 ай бұрын

@@HeDronHeDronHedron I lied I learned motion controls I'm never going back FUCK STICK CONTROLS

nintendo network ID was also free back then so more people could get splatoon and play online. i enjoy the original much more than the 2nd and 3rd

i rarely ever disconnect. maybe i'm just lucky and i'm the "host console" a lot.

Ah yes. Google trends is a reliable source for everything.

The problem i think that it just all the same in splatoon 3, yeah we are getting some new thinks but all the game modes are the same, i know challenges exist but you cant play that all the time And also ppl are getting way too mad at splatfest results

These are fair points, but I feel like it just depends on the type of player and the circumstances that they are playing in. I personally never liked splatfests, don't care about the surplus of reference kits, and rarely see connection issues. I know this isn't what the vast majority of people experience, but most of the things you bring up in this video either are problems with every Splatoon game or aren't really problems to me. Although I do hear that I have the spiciest takes in Splatoon a lot.

I stoped playing a year ago, I refuse to pay for p2p online when I can play free online games on my pc, if they actually spent the money on dedicated servers, then I would be happy to give them my money. My switch is currently collecting dust on my shelf, with a drained battery

I’m still waiting on the gold scale drop buff and my golden egg trophy. The gold scale drops are just random on my end, even if the hp on the King Sammy is down to a quarter before the last 10-20 seconds. Literally wtf happened with Reeflux Deco?? How exactly do they decide which kit of sub and special goes to which weapon?? I can’t stand the pvp structure of the games mainly because the Wi-Fi on the switch is absolute dog crap. Sky: CotL is made by a smaller company and had the right idea of having servers, despite the random server splits and my connection is way more stable there than it was in this game due to it. The fact that Splatfest can have changes and function (mostly) fine and Big Run had to be the one that got jacked up with a new system shows either how little the devs OR Nintendo give much of a crap about Big Run or how rushed they’re being. Has anyone thought the game felt bloated but at the same time not? Idk I’m just getting that vibe now.

@DLCMan1218

7 ай бұрын

i need my golden egg trophy as well

As a new comer, I think I am facing players with 1000 hrs experience. I had no chance. I wanted to play this game but it’s just hard. Edit. So I just gave up

In terms of main stream gaming popularity, S3 has definitely fell off

@maplemiles3381

7 ай бұрын

The game is very very popular in Japan and the third game is still very popular on a global scale.

Eh, I've played since Splatoon 1 testfire all the way to current Splatoon 3. I think Splatoon 3 is the best game. My issues with the game is just there's no Hero Charger Replica, not every single player level has a charger and you can't use a charger in the overworld of single player like Splatoon 2, and the specials aren't really designed around the latency this game has., they're too fast and instant, you can't really react to them. As for the catalog, Big Run, etc. I think they're perfectly fair to get. I just didn't like that Big Run should be competitive in the first place, even if I could get top 5%.

@Joyconic

7 ай бұрын

Wow, all the way from the testfire huh? That's crazy. I missed the Hero weapons too lol

@the.littlest.toaster

7 ай бұрын

Theres no hero weapons i haven't finished the story i usually save it for when i completely have no Internet but i see people with the hero shot replica so i assumed there were more? Also how did they get that weapon then?

This is fax they could have added a new mode in splatoon 3 at least 2 added salmon run

@maplemiles3381

7 ай бұрын

Splatoon 3 is keeping the vast majority ofnplayers engaged to the game and the current content isn't getting stale so youe reason is 100% factually invalid

@gavin1078

6 ай бұрын

@@maplemiles3381 its not factually invalid they didnt add a new mode like how they added salmon run to splatoon 2 since splatoon 1 didnt have any oddball modes like that

@maplemiles3381

6 ай бұрын

​@@gavin1078nope the game is growing and is gaining more a more positive feedback and not the complete opposite you're nothing but a troll spreading misinformation

@maplemiles3381

6 ай бұрын

​@@gavin1078With a lack of a new mode the game is growing at a positive rate and not the complete opposite you're just using this video to gloat to feel justified

These are good, though the catalog is VERY easy to complete even if you only played a little bit each day. I myself have olayed every single day even if it was just a little bit. But the true honest reasons why Splatoon 3 multiplayer is dying is mostly due to overpowered weapons/specials, as you stated major bad map designs, and matchmaking. I can tell you after playing nearly every day since 2022 that the weapons and specials are the biggest reason players leave. The thing I've noticed is the devs have a bad habit of taking an overpowered weapon and making it stronger or making another weapon overpowered to compete with it. The same is true with specials. The best solution would be massive nerfs across the board or to go all out and make every weapon overpowered to balance. Long Range, Accuracy, and Rate of Fire are the top most powerful dominant traits in this game and are almost unstoppable if a weapon has 1 or all of them. The list of weapon traits is most but those 3 rule uncontested. Part of the reason Long Range is king in Splat3 is due to the maps, as said the Tetris Block design is no joke and is a HUGE issue. The problem lies with almost every map being a bottle neck with no side routes, or barely any at all. Specials are the same, some either need nerfs or reworkings, some that were fine are either too powerful now or ones that were op are now even stronger. I've been in S+ for many seasons now, and many who only play Turf might not agree with all I say but trust me when I tell you that when you play Rank these issues will show themselves asap. Hitboxes are another HUGE issue with weapons, yes we can chalk up a few deaths in game because of the net connection but the hitboxes of projectiles and of splatanas/brushes/rollers is ridiculous. There is a very big reason the top 10 to 15 weapons are picked most, they all share 2 or more major traits and issues. Matchmaking really needs upgrading, your Rank level, playtime, and player level should REALLY matter more. You either get matched against chumps or against a 4 man team with mics. I've read so many stories of players dealing with these issues, quitting and even returning the game because of how unbalanced it is. I 100% agree with them, I love the series but the problems in Splat3 are unacceptable. Better multiplayer netcode could be a great improvement and might even alleviate some issues but it's the fundamental game itself that is the problem.

@maplemiles3381

6 ай бұрын

The game is growing not dying for a matter of fact

You forgot the matchmaking

Splatoon 4 with "4 v 4 v 4 v 4" with 4 idols and 4 theme splatfests is gonna be off the chain on Switch 2. Imagine team survival mode like Apex Legends Splatoon.