The millionaire pastors bragging about their private jet really can't help the image problem.

@rogerthornhill1491

2 жыл бұрын

Total scam.

@JoeB0604

2 жыл бұрын

most pastors are not millionaires

@JoeB0604

2 жыл бұрын

@@rogerthornhill1491 no

@satoshinakamoto7253

2 жыл бұрын

thats crazy

@Don-kw6nu

2 жыл бұрын

The pastor at my previous church was a billionaire, at the time when I used to speak to him I never knew

I've abandoned the church. Not religion. The bible actually warned us of all this. My beliefs are stronger than ever.

@ns.hidayat

2 жыл бұрын

If you don't believe Jesus is God, he is Almighty Prophet, and there is a God (monotheism), then you are close enough to become Muslim. The trinity concepts were thought from church, as far as I know. You will not find a clear Trinity concept explained on your Bible, check it out!.

@freedomfighter271

2 жыл бұрын

Who ever correlated the bible with the church lied to us.

@oakinwol

2 жыл бұрын

@@freedomfighter271 This is actually very simple. Spirituality is about a relationship with God. Religion is simply different explanations of what God wants. You can't have a good relationship with someone for whom the entire relationship is about you and what you want and what you gain. Those are not good relationships. A good relationship would comprise someone actually wanting to know what God wants and caring about God. And that is the fundamental question for those who really care about God vs those whose relationship with God is the same as all their other relationships, really just about themselves

@iwhippedcreamcode4642

2 жыл бұрын

@@ns.hidayat Jesus ISNT GOD!... And Religion is a Scam!

@christianhenry4173

2 жыл бұрын

I've abandoned religion not the church you got your beliefs wrong homie. You can be a man of faith and put God first but forsake the Denominations of men. God is interested in your intimacy with Him and to most women I hate to say it but Today a man won't have a lot of options if he's serious about God. Flirting and reading the Bible through the holy spirit doesnt mix. 1. Is pleasing the flesh the other is using more reliance on God's word. You will have more opposition when you get closer to God. Look at all of the characters in the bible and you'll see your answers. A spiritual woman must be equal to that man Spiritually, Emotionally, and Mentally. If she is not in all 3 categories that man will forget her.

I went to church once and the pastor said I needed to give 10% of my salary to the church. I left and never went back.

@greatestever7623

2 жыл бұрын

🤣🤣😂🤣😂😂😂😂 its a business

@DaveE99

2 жыл бұрын

@@greatestever7623 Technically, everything is a Buissness. If energy goes into it, it totally is, it’s all a matter of what you sell.

@thereviewer4173

2 жыл бұрын

Believe it or not, it’s very expensive to operate a church, especially if the church has a good location like it’s on a major street. The church survives out of the 10% of salaries to pay for the property, to maintain the property, to help pay for certain activities done by the church as a whole, to pay for the pastor salary (which in my experience as a former treasurer was about 20k annually), and so on. An honest church should release a monthly or quarterly statement of the church finances (expenses/income) to the members giving their 10% (tithe).

@benbutch1

2 жыл бұрын

10% is considered a tithe. 10% goes back to God. I struggled to do that at first but now it’s become habit .

@thereviewer4173

2 жыл бұрын

@@benbutch1 I forgot to mention that I am no longer a Christian. I’m an agnostic atheist now, but I can confirm as a former church treasurer that the tithe is necessary for probably most small to medium size churches. So this argument that the tithe is a steal is nonsense. If you believe in the good your church does, you need to support them. Nothing is free in this world. All organizations, religious or not, need money to stay afloat.

In my case, I went to elders in the church for help with my wife. Big mistake.... she was coddled because women are considered the weaker vessel... I was condemned and treated like a stray dog with rabies. I left the church and eventually got divorced. Best decision I have ever made.

@joelover2631

2 жыл бұрын

That's mostly cause they wanted a plate, been there, I know it sounds like shit but if I wish someone would had told me this so if it helps.

Religion is not for everyone, but for me personally, it has helped me a lot, especially since I am a lone wolf, it gives me hope that my hard work, persistence and business will continue to grow in perpetuity and that in time the right people and women will be in my life.

@kenandrieling5885

2 жыл бұрын

You can hope in one hand and shit in the other and see which one fills up faster

@countryboyred

2 жыл бұрын

@@kenandrieling5885 at the end of the day, I would rather believe in God than not. It’s a personal choice.

@chalkkey433

2 жыл бұрын

Some think it is stupid to believe in God, but we all know that it is even more stupid to think that mankind, animals, food and nature made it self.

@zeus1747

2 жыл бұрын

Women lol 😂

@pmh9966

2 жыл бұрын

I think you have not critically looked into this

when I was going through my divorce due to my (at the time) wife's infidelity my church was a huge support network. I had multiple people come visit me and check in on me, without it I would've been much lonelier. But everyone's church and experience may vary.

@planetearth7824

2 жыл бұрын

One can have a huge support network without church

@RealHarambe

2 жыл бұрын

@@planetearth7824 one can get from Texas to New York without a car but it could certainly help

@seananthony7494

2 жыл бұрын

@@RealHarambe Wise words

Church has become a safe haven for people that made poor decisions And gave them more excuses to do so

@mentoriii3475

2 жыл бұрын

basically every religion lol, there are a lot of people who actually think that no matter about my actions i will just go to the church/mosque and everything will be forgiven

@chilipepper9938

2 жыл бұрын

That is hands down the most accurate reason.

@jkfd97

2 жыл бұрын

This is exactly what comes to my mind when I hear of "born-again Christian women." Biggest loads of b*llocks I've ever heard in my life and it actually makes me chuckle. Religion is indeed basically a cop-out for many people that do not have the guts to look inside themselves and introspect directly and so they need to use the Bible as a crutch to deal with their traumas instead. It is basically a deflection from the real problem. Churches should say exactly that to these people. Something along the lines of "you have to accept the mistakes of your past yourself before letting God into your heart again" or something like that but hearing about how corrupted and pu$$ified the modern church has become, that most definitely will not be happening. No real human-being needs a book to tell them that they have committed serious errors in the past and they need to put in the work to correct them. Take full responsibility for YOUR problems yourself. Society will do as it may but you can only change yourself ultimately.

@kenandrieling5885

2 жыл бұрын

@@jkfd97 I just said the other day that girls should be Forced to post their abortions on Facebook

@guitarman0365

2 жыл бұрын

church is almost the worst place to find a woman. All believers have to do is go to confessional and say forgive me father for i have sinned and went to a gang bang behind my husbands back. Lord forgive me. walk out with a clear and absolved conscience because only God can judge. So who care what any man or person in her life says. That whole faith thing is a double edged sword. People can be extremely well behaved but also it opens the door for justifications of their behavior and a quick soul cleansing after should they stray.

I actually started to go to church after I got married, and stopped after I got divorced. Rollo was spot on once again. Great insight he has, I didn’t know that was so common.

@SoCal9705

2 жыл бұрын

Why did you stop? Did you stop believing?

WOW!!!!! THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THIS! I am the son of a Protestant minister in a large main line denomination in the United States and what you have said about the feminization of the Church is dead on. In fact, I just had this conversation with my father the other day and he completely agrees. When I was a child our churches and my private Christian school were led by American and some British World War II vets. They were confident, accomplished, charming gentlemen who excelled in everything that they did. They ran our church board meetings and Bible studies with a level of principled leadership that can never be matched again. Over the past twenty years, most of these gentlemen have passed away (some are still rocking it in their 90s) and were replaced by their beta boomer sons and domineering boomer daughters. Now the women have taken over almost all of the leadership in our domination and they are completely hostile to all cisgender white men. My dad is 70 and the Church leadership on the regional level makes him go to conferences on checking his white privilege even though he voluntarily served in poor, inner city churches when I was younger. The Church is a complete mess but luckily my faith isn't in people. I can't wait to dig into Rollo's book. I already gave out copies of Rich's book to my fellow soldiers in my Army National Guard unit and the young guys have devoured every word. Rumor is that Rich's book is even being secretly given away by Drill Sergeants at basic training.

@HandsOfSweed

2 жыл бұрын

So, you're a United Methodist? Bc you literally just described the UMC.

@kevinvong6912

2 жыл бұрын

@@HandsOfSweed nailed it. I won’t go any farther than this in order to protect my father, the last faithful Wesleyan.

@dr.vonslifeinvesting6485

2 жыл бұрын

@@kevinvong6912 I left after 14 years at UMC, going to a CREC Presbyterian church that actually has something to offer men. The pastor calls out all the bs it’s great.

@kevinvong6912

2 жыл бұрын

@@dr.vonslifeinvesting6485 I totally get that but I'll stay on for my dad and for John Wesley's legacy.

@countryboyred

2 жыл бұрын

@@kevinvong6912 bless you man. Your father sounds like a class act.

I wouldn’t say my friends and I have left religion after taking the red pill. However we have largely abandoned the church and the congregation. What the Bible actually says about a marriage relationship and what the pastor tells you about a marriage relationship are often two separate things. The church would never tell a woman she’s having issues in her marriage because she won’t submit herself to her husband as under the lord. They won’t tell women to not become pastors as the Bible does not permit that. Many churches won’t put right condemn sodomy. In most cases you find pastor will push the narrative that we men must forgive a woman’s past as Jesus forgave the church and ignore submission. The church is now a social circle to us. The pastor despises us.

@SoCal9705

2 жыл бұрын

The issue is not forgiveness, the issue is suitability for the task at hand.

@thatkajunguy8029

2 жыл бұрын

I would say you didn't leave the church , the church left you

@kenjihayes336

2 жыл бұрын

Lots of pastors say all those things

@Reper123100

2 жыл бұрын

You have to find a traditional Church. They exist. There are good ones and bad ones, but if you are red pilled it'll be easy for you to find one because you have the necessary knowledge. You know what's right, you know what's wrong, so find the right and ignore the wrong. Jesus loves you.

@brandonboi9465

Жыл бұрын

They don't believe that it is their job/role to keep their man. He should just accept all her growing faults because it's "God's will."

I got RP'd by a cheating "Christian" girl.

@Cbd_7ohm

2 жыл бұрын

Being Christian doesn't make someone a good person. Just another cult.

@redpilldownunder4845

2 жыл бұрын

same here bro.

Kevin Samules spoke about it Rollo, the show was why black men left he church . Even me am almost going my way 💰💵💴💳💷💎💶

@muslimtomcruise

2 жыл бұрын

so everything came from nothing ? your chaseing materilism

@godkingceaser7594

2 жыл бұрын

@@muslimtomcruise if your black and poor like me , believed all your life in God will provide but shit in return then what 🤷🏾‍♂️

@AnyluckProduction

2 жыл бұрын

@@godkingceaser7594 then why are you alive ? So god can provide for you ? God gave us everything we need to know that’s good for us, its true universally through all religions and outside of it. Yours is to learn and put that into practice.

@satoshinakamoto7253

2 жыл бұрын

kevin gor his stuff from rollo's books

@mariahconklin4150

2 жыл бұрын

Why? 🤷‍♀️

Don’t abandon religion. Faith is beyond money and women. Have faith in God….he does exists !

@steelmind5511

2 жыл бұрын

Yess!!

@martinocampo6531

2 жыл бұрын

You know

@Kubai

2 жыл бұрын

You know it

@madams989

2 жыл бұрын

apart from there’s no concrete evidence of this

@johnyang1420

2 жыл бұрын

@@madams989 Wrong….look up Jesus in Britannica. Its fact.

Found my faith in high school, currently 23 and part of a church that has kept all the old values. No compromise or feminine takeover

@BD90..

2 жыл бұрын

Lucky

@noahberndtson4170

2 жыл бұрын

@@BD90.. blessesed not lucky

@countryboyred

2 жыл бұрын

Good to know there are still old school churches out there.

@Momonga32

2 жыл бұрын

Where you live,? South Texas.

@MC-pe4cn

Жыл бұрын

Nice so you own slaves?

Church is a great place for 30 something ex carousel riders that are looking for a retirement plan.

@professorlayabout4878

2 жыл бұрын

Bingo.

@heatherfeather9951

2 жыл бұрын

Lol I actually know quite a few of these types and these are the amazing trad women that so many red pillers extol. They foolishly believe that the supposed conservative woman is going to be nicer and more accommodating.

@martinjameskeys

Жыл бұрын

Facts I’m Pentecostal but I realized despite my faith we still gotta finness these hoes religious or not

I’m a church pastor in Australia. Fortunately my community is still very traditional when it comes to the gender archetypes and of its healthy complimentary roles. We have both a good single mens and woman’s support group also. Been preaching the series in 2 Samuel and it’s emphasis on the destruction of selfish gratification, sexual immorality, and how this is still relevant today, with catastrophic pervasive consequences.

@luken4072

10 ай бұрын

Is your church in Brisbane by any chance?

@cmnhl1329

10 ай бұрын

@@luken4072 We’re in the wonderful western suburbs of Melbourne

I agree, the thought of going into a physical church again with other people and their problems is just unsettling, I have a personal relationship with god and seek him every day. It’s personal and private and in my own time and my own way.

@noahberndtson4170

2 жыл бұрын

Accept Jesus Christ as your personal savior. He is the ONLY way to the father in heaven.

@jeffereypeck6

2 ай бұрын

I’ve been trying to go to church but I’ve started to notice these trends. I don’t blame God but I do blame people

Rich Cooper was my introduction to the manosphere. It's good to see him and Rollo Tomasi collaborating.

This is depressing because as a Christian, I find myself almost completely isolated as most women my age (late 20s) tend to be atheist or agnostic. I wish to be married and have children with a Christian woman and raise a family with traditional Christian values. But that is hard to come by these days because of this generational shift propelled by the internet and social media.

@jwinchester1320

2 жыл бұрын

You’re trippin there’s a ton of good looking women in their 20’s at these churches!!

@Cbd_7ohm

2 жыл бұрын

Loser.

@erenjaeger1738

2 жыл бұрын

It depend where you live. This world is very huge. You letting go God bc a female ?

@Kirby5413

2 жыл бұрын

@@erenjaeger1738 I'll never forsake Christ! I just wish to find a woman who embraces Him as I do.

@Kirby5413

2 жыл бұрын

@@jwinchester1320 Is that so?

As a lifelong church member, there are lots of reasons men are leaving the church. The biggest reason is that most men under the age of 40 were never in a church to begin with so they never actually left. Church going Christians are a minority of the American population now. Another major reason is a general lack of belief in the major tenants of "traditional" Christianity. (Belief in the divinity of Christ, belief in the resurrection, belief in sin, belief in the ten commandments, etc.) Also, it is challenging for modern people to put their faith ahead of their own personal wants and desires now. Having served on Church boards for many years, I've seen all the silly stupid petty fights that go on in churches that make people angry. Most people don't have the spiritual maturity to learn forgiveness, so they leave after getting upset about some issue that really isn't that important or they leave over a misunderstanding. Pride, misunderstandings, and hurt feelings are the biggest things that drive people out of churches in my observation. Then there are the cultural issues in many mainline churches. Most (not all) of the mainline churches have become completely "woke" in their politics and theology. It is a cancer that is killing Christianity in the developed world. Even the more conservative and traditional denominations have some lesser degree of feminist taint because church members are saturated with it in the culture and then drag it into the church. The failure of women to willingly submit to male authority in the more traditional churches is largely due to the cultural shift in society being imported in by women by allowing them to sit on church councils, teaching Bible classes and Sunday School etc.

@Kirby5413

2 жыл бұрын

All of what you said, especially in the first paragraph is spot on. Church leaders need to really reform and broaden their outreach and Traditionalists as well as Social Conservatives need to also ring people back into the old virtuous mindset if we as a society hopes to survive.

@kenandrieling5885

2 жыл бұрын

Also the church doesn't stand for anything anymore

@randyjones3050

2 жыл бұрын

@@kenandrieling5885 Depends on the church or denomination. Some do, many do not or simply profess their faith weakly.

@randyjones3050

2 жыл бұрын

​@@Kirby5413 I generally agree. There are many factors that led to the decline of American Christianity in particular. I'm in the minority in this opinion, but I think the so-called Church Growth Movement that was prominent in the 80s, 90s, and early 2000s sowed the seeds of the current collapse we are witnessing in local Protestant and Evangelical congregations. The CGM taught churches to "change with the times" and to cater to the felt needs of baby boomers and their kids. It promoted the destruction of the historic traditions and worship practices of churches and replacing it with music and practices that reflected American pop culture. It also promoted more emphasis of "practical" sermons and less emphasis on doctrine and dogma. The Catholics had their equivalent movement that manifested in the form of the Second Vatican Council which ravaged the traditional teachings and practices of the Roman Catholic Church. After over 40 years the results have been catastrophic. In addition, the rise of the megachurch movement also had negative overall consequences for smaller congregations. Small churches could never compete with the "big box" megachurches which specialized in flashy worship entertainment and parish programs while being very thin on scripture and theology. I always call megachurches the "back door of Christianity". During their heyday they specialized in sheep stealing people from smaller churches looking for something more exciting. Then as those megachurches inevitably peaked and then declined their members generally just left Christianity completely.

@RedDevilStudio

2 жыл бұрын

I would also like to add the fear based dispensationlist theology didn’t help. There’s only so many times you can claim that Jesus is coming back in X year & person X is the anti christ before people get tired. I’d also add that most churches don’t even have men’s ministries in any capacity.

Wow! Rollo hit the nail on the head with respect to divorce and the religions/congregations siding with the women. I went through that exact scenario.

Jesus is the way, the truth, and the life. It seems the majority of Christians have forgotten this or never knew this to begin with.

@sgtcaco

2 жыл бұрын

I am new to religion and have been going to church for few years. What I noticed was the Catholic Church is really welcoming and the catholic people are very humble and serious. The Christian church Had a lot of annoying music, a lot of the christians were x drug addicts and very hypocritical and they try to bash you with the bible.

@chasemac4759

2 жыл бұрын

@@sgtcaco unfortunately a lot of churches are following the paths of Bethel and Hillsong. The music is feminine and full of unbiblical nonsense, not to mention churches look more like a concert nowadays. I would suggest finding a traditional and reformed Church and to steer clear of these false churches and Catholicism as well.

@Cbd_7ohm

2 жыл бұрын

No.

@erenjaeger1738

2 жыл бұрын

@@sgtcaco it depends what church you go. True christains church follow God words.

@erenjaeger1738

2 жыл бұрын

@@flanderg123 which part the Bible says that then about rape ?

remember its about having faith in something that will make you better... not following what a priest says to get your reward...

@BD90..

2 жыл бұрын

Forget the priest, you can speak directly to God if you are religious. The priest is there to lead the sheep. If you are not a sheep you can do it yourself

@anthonylozano8035

2 жыл бұрын

@@BD90.. you’re ill informed.

@rogerthornhill1491

2 жыл бұрын

@Joseph David Baaaaaa!

@Stayler17

2 жыл бұрын

Faith is not the way to truth. I rather believe in logic and sound thinking.

@Stayler17

2 жыл бұрын

@Joseph David Because I wanna believe more things that are true than things that aren't

I grew up in the church, I started seeing not people trying to serve others but a corporate structure, feminists creeping in, women as bad as non church women. I saw decent men who wanted to serve but were denied because they were previously divorced. I have seen the most pious karens try to sweep their daughter's unwed pregnancy under the rug by celebrating it. The last straw for me was seeing people who didn't fit a image being ignored. I had had enough. I still believe in God, still believe in Jesus but I cannot take the modern American Christian structure seriously anymore. I haven't stepped into my old home church in almost a decade.

One of the biggest reasons that a lot of young men do not go to church or any other religious institution is the laws and religious ethics are no congruent. For example no fault divorce. Not punishable.

Absolutely 100% correct about the church siding with the wife in a divorce. My experience spot on.

Haven't thought about in awhile.. Used to go to my grandparents's church on and off.. But then I moved a lot.. Good reflections here in the video..

Reminds me of personal experience and stories I've heard. Things like girls riding the carousel early in highschool then "finding god" right before college, and pastors' daughters getting knocked up by their boyfriends, but claimed they were graped to save their image and everyone going along with it.

Met a woman on a dating app who invited me to her church (She’s a baptist, but was looking for a Christian church she liked) I took her to my church and now she’s considering converting. I’m Catholic and went to coed Catholic school from Kindergarten through my senior year. Religion has value but it won’t teach you to be redpilled nor is a church a magical place where you’ll find “the one” coming from a guy who’s been in church his entire life I never once met a woman I dated there.

@CatholicRenaissanceMan

2 жыл бұрын

@Norman Viking doesn’t seem like it’s for me, but I can see what you mean. Hopefully she’s doing it because she wants to.

@Cbd_7ohm

2 жыл бұрын

@Norman Viking Imagine being a Christian viking. Loser.

The main reason more and more people ain't going to church is that people are starting to notice it's all fairy tales

@johnyang1420

2 жыл бұрын

Thats one opinion. How did life come from nonlife? Please replicate that experiment. Look up Jesus im Britannica. Google which church did Jesus start? Catholic

@biggibbs4678

2 жыл бұрын

The reason more and more people are becoming mentally ill is because of the decline in religion

@bishopofeternity48

Жыл бұрын

Gnostics would disagree.

Rich you did a good job listening to your guests. That shows good maturity as well as high emotional intelligence on your part. I know that you're an intelligent man and enjoy talking, but it's very smart when you invite someone on your channel to let them talk. You did exactly that and I commend you for it. Hope you are well. Know that I am against this vaccine mandate for some workers and doing everything in my power to stop it.

As a weekly church going Christian, I can say from the various churches I've been to as an adult, it's about a 50/50 cointoss if a random single Christian woman is a never-wed single mother or not.

I grew up as a Jehovah Witness and absolutely hated it. That religion tore my family apart.

@IFYOUWANTITGOGETIT

2 жыл бұрын

Yep. It tears many families apart. I have first hand knowledge.

@davidpersson250

2 жыл бұрын

Its a cult

@doctorx1924

2 жыл бұрын

I had a chemistry teacher back in hschool who was a black Jehovah Witness. He was weird as fuck and very unforgiving. I still remember one time a kid came to class and gave him proof that his grandfather had died and he attended his funeral. My chemistry teacher's response was "Sorry to hear that but your lab report is still due today." The other weird moment I can recall is when one kid asked him what he did for Halloween. His response was "I don't celebrate Halloween it's against my religion and it's a demonic holiday."

@mikeywatson1862

Жыл бұрын

@@davidpersson250 all religions are cults.

@brandonboi9465

Жыл бұрын

My aunt was a little coo coo and became a Jehovah witness, Those people are like spiders to me. She died a few weeks ago (some tear in her heart) and apparently they came to her house wanting all her stuff but were pissed when they found out she didn't have anything lol!

I’m asian and I don’t really see much benefits in following a certain religion. Most people here don’t really care much bout religion because it don’t really have much impact on their lives

@omp365

2 жыл бұрын

that doesn't even make sense. that's like saying 'i don't exercise because it doesn't have an impact on my life'.

@Collfuse

2 жыл бұрын

@@omp365 well exercise gives me better health. What about religion? What benefits does it have to convince people to follow it?

@omp365

2 жыл бұрын

@@Collfuse there's an old saying that goes, 'if i have to explain it, you'll never understand'. basically, its not an iPhone buddy. you don't 'convince' anyone.

@rogerthornhill1491

2 жыл бұрын

@@omp365 tell me you’re the one who makes no bloody sense!? What you said is ridiculous.

@SahWar

2 жыл бұрын

Man up via physical training, basic-economics, form-your-tribe, & enjoy no-bullshit Zen philosophy and you'll change your mind...

Rollo really nailed it. All the irony I saw in church. Chritians dont need god to forgive them bc they forgive themselves all the time regardless what nasty things they do.

@jkfd97

2 жыл бұрын

It's basically a built-in excuse to commit all kinds of what the Bible would deem "sins". The crux of the issue is people do not hold themselves to account. That is the real pandemic nowadays, not ¢ovid-19.

Great video. Beyond educational.

Some guy said that atheism is beta and believing in God is alpha. Even though that sounds like a meme, it holds some truth to it. Believing in God gives you a higher purpose, helps you structure your life, and understanding your value as a man. Atheism and feminism go hand in hand. If you believe women were created for men you can't put them in the pedestal feminism has put them on.

@PlayGuy200

2 жыл бұрын

Very true, but believing in God shouldn't be thought as a tool or technique for getting ur life right, it should be an acknowledged reality that God exists and I better do all I need to and can do to please him for MY own good, because the true success is if God views u as successful because he is the all knowing. Not a son, not a spirit, but God the one almighty creator

@copainspammeur404

2 жыл бұрын

@@PlayGuy200 I agree 1000%

@mikeb6383

6 ай бұрын

Nothing more alpha than kneeling for the god of a foreign religion.

Church is where women go after they been ran thru i.e CC Ride…. They try to rebrand the 🐱 and claim born again. Basically, like trying to rebrand and rebuild an old beat up Honda with high mileage

@professorlayabout4878

2 жыл бұрын

You, sir, are a poet!

@NC-dk4mh

3 ай бұрын

The converse can be said for men in their 40's that "find God" become youth pastors to find a 16 y/o with her v-card.

Would really love to hear Rich Cooper talk more about spirtuality, faith and the idea of a higher power. Almost everything Rich says about the empirical science, rationality, psychology, social dynamics, business, entrepreneurship, human nature ect. is GOLD and extremly valuable! Helps very much to get closer to win in life, at least materially which lets face it is a huge deal!. But I'm very curious about Richards thoughts on things that are not rational per se, like spirituality things like intuition, love, selfless service, hope, courage, humility, serenity ect. (I know, very often marked as feminine values, and nowadays often misused in a very dishonest and/or hysterical way. (i.e. political correctnesss, feminism, weakness disguising as "compassion" ect.) But I personally do believe there is an important role for those "not so rational" values in their truthful state, I think its also important to comtemplate these concepts at least on a personal level, but I have found that healthy spiritual communities were you can learn about them, practice, meditate, strengthen ones faith ect. can be very useful to build a solid psychological and spiritual foundation It also helps with "doing the work" and crucial for me at least in maintaining hard work, when it comes to rational growth, good psysique, money, be captivating, but also to use those gifts in an ethical and constructive way for the community as a whole. Belief systems about the emperical "real world" is good and neccecary but I think the 'why' and spiritual values is what sustains the beliefs and help individuals to grow in a healthy way. That are my thoughts about this, maybe its a peronality thing from my part, but I'm facinated by deep and philisophical topics like ethics , psychology, meaning and values, and I think true spirituality plays a big role in that. Also, Rich, do you believe you have (some) feminine qualities?, or do you think thats bullshit and men are just men with only masculine traits, and women have only feminine traits, or do you think its normal for men to have (a small amount) a some "femininity" and even good for them to embrace it for the sake of authenticity? Maybe its not the right way to put it, but if I put it another way, do you experience for instance the need for intimancy with a women and the need to communicate feelings to a partner? and is that something men should avoid to talk about or express in some other way than sex, or is intimacy just a beta concept and part of the betatization by a thousand consessions. I want to admit right here and there that I couldnt give a fck if someone judged me for valueing intimacy, because I of course also value other things as well like physical and mental strength, courage, resilience, clear visions and goal oriented actions, and I´m not a slacker and I do the work to the best of my abilities, but I think its important to be your whole authentic self, be as honest as you can be. and have self-compassion, or at least try to develop some sensitivity. I'm guess I'm curious about if Rich is human and has a softer side to him, cause the image on youtube can sometimes be very harsh. this Is not supposed to be anything other than a constructive note, and 99,99999% of Rich Cooper material is so valuable, honest and true. And I'm super grateful for all the messages, wisdom and "harsh" truths you have given us. Nothing but love.

“Religion is regarded by the common people as true, by the wise as false, and by the rulers as useful.”

As a single man I did go for the message however...I started seeing more married men who were miserable constantly complaining about life. The women? They were pretty much throwing themselves at the men there with a slutty past. Now they are "saved". The women were very much put up on a pedestal. Just got alittle too cult like for me so I bailed. If I need help with an addiction I'll hire a professional that doesn't use religion.

@mrgee1959

2 жыл бұрын

Men are treated like little boys at church. Women are praised and protected.

@mtbiker4life918

2 жыл бұрын

@@mrgee1959 what did it for me was watching a grown man who is in charge of the daycare ( oddly enough he doesn't have any of his own). He got up on stage promoting the childcare, and he said " it's where the cool kids hang out". Just really didn't sit right with me. That's when I was done. I'm leaning more towards buddhism more than anything.

My mom found church after she had me. Got a nice, docile, hardworking beta to marry her. Good guy, treated me like his own but I can't help but look at him with pity and disdain now.

Most people are faithful if it suits their lifestyle. For the wrong reasons. Blaming religion because of the people twisting it and selfish is not right. We all got the choice to live how we want. By the way, Church is just a community. You don't need it to have religion or pray to God. It is just there to surround yourself with like minded people. Go your own way, speak to God directly if you are religious. You don't need a middle man to speak to God for you. The Pope is a great example of a middle man benefiting off you and exploiting believers....just like those money making cults.

@shtfvan8084

2 жыл бұрын

Best comment man

@No-handleneeded1

2 жыл бұрын

Couldn’t have said it better myself!

The Church I used to go some years ago, has taken more from me, than it has actually given me. and I'm not talking about money, it's way more complicated.

@Cbd_7ohm

2 жыл бұрын

Lol

@chrism8180

2 жыл бұрын

That's their game, cripple your spirit to offer redemption, these places aren't there to help, and the people in charge are either ignorant of it or willing and careless participants

Hit the nail on the head!

As an atheist myself who does Not believe in God, this makes me smile.

@planetearth7824

2 жыл бұрын

Atheist forever

@reddeadrene7552

2 жыл бұрын

Your one of those types of athiests

@clintonmorgan5627

2 жыл бұрын

@@reddeadrene7552 yes!!! I am! And for very good reason

@johnyang1420

2 жыл бұрын

As an atheist….what if you are wrong? Then it will be bad news for you. How did life come from nonlife? Can you replicate this experiment? Nope!!!’

@skylinefever

2 жыл бұрын

@@johnyang1420 Sounds like the whole "Pascal's Wager" game. What if you followed Jesus and are wrong? What did you lose? All that time of your life wasted doing miserable holy stuff, that's what. Besides, that assumes Jesus vs nonbelief. There are other systems that would Pascal's Wager you if you believed in something other than their system.

If the concepts in church were presented for the first time to a man over the age of 18 there is no way he would buy into it. It simply isn’t logical. That being said church could provide a sense of belonging and a community to interact with. You guys were spot on in saying that statistically the church doesn’t insulate the threat of divorce.

@skylinefever

2 жыл бұрын

Yes, I'm convinced religions promote "Go forth and multiply" because those organizations know that if they don't catch someone as a child, the chance of manipulating them is tiny. Therefore, having a bunch of sheep breed more sheep is ideal.

@biggibbs4678

2 жыл бұрын

@@skylinefever if people don't have kids the population pyramid will become unstable and our country will stagnate like Japan. Wars are often the result of troubled demographics. Religions knew about this thousands of years before demographic science was a thing

Frequently the pastor is sleeping with the wife during marriage counseling. Ask Ben Zobrist.

I stop going when they stop telling women to *submit* to their her husband who is a man of God.

Exactly right. I was a youth leader at a community church who was headed by a female pastor and we had difficulty keeping men at church. That is not to say that a female pastor cannot lead, but it is extremely hard and challenging for a female pastor to lead men because of the differences in personality and biological predisposition, the church struggled to have a support group for men that never came to fruition. Some churches lead by female pastors preach modern day feminism when is in contradiction with what the bible says.

@JacobW98

Жыл бұрын

You are part of the problem. See women can't teach because women can't quarrel. Read the "Old Testament" and you will see that if two men are quarreling (which is to say striving or arguing), women are not to intervene. If the dispute cannot be resolved between the two, it goes to judges (elders of the city) and Levites who are learned in how to discern and settle matters according to the Torah. You see women are not meant to be judges, or teachers because they are not given the power to strive. I woman doesn't strive with a man because a man is stronger than her. I know you Christians are different because you allow women to be teachers but women shouldn't strive with men in any society.

I love how these 2 compliment each other. I bought the Rational Male Religion book Rollo wrote. Sometimes it makes a good point but Im not halfway done yet. I found JC when I was 14, Im 35 now. TBH I hate how blue pilled the Church's get. Oldschool pastors would tell you to change. Modern bluepilled pastors just wanna sing songs and collect money. Id rather read a book explaining Bible stories in detail. Even then I hate it when the author gives some Blue pill advice steering you in the wrong direction. I swear the Bible (basic instructions before leaving Earth). Its guiding men especially to be as masculine as possible.

I rarely see true men with their own thoughts and values in a church. Its impossible to be in a church if you are an alpha as too many things in christianity and religion doesnt make sense to a real man

@benbutch1

2 жыл бұрын

This is more of an indictment of a culture of weak men than the church. Churches are a place of worship, you need to find one that you are comfortable with and will help you on your journey with God

@Cbd_7ohm

2 жыл бұрын

@Joseph David No he wasn't.

@biggibbs4678

2 жыл бұрын

@Joseph David Napoleon lost everything in the end because he couldn't conserve what he had gained, and always wanted more.

parents were both religious but I was mainly raised by a single mom who didn't make me go to church. Tried doing the religion thing for a few years in my 20's but realized that religion makes no logical sense to me - no reason at all to believe in something that can't at all be detected/seen/heard/etc. Never been happier or more successful than in the years since I quit spending time on that stuff and just focusing on living life.

All my life my experience was that church is geared for women. That's a big reason why I always hated it. If it was more masculine, I'd probably would've been more interested in going. Why the hell would I want to spend time with old ladies and middle aged moms getting all emotional about their lives every week? That has zero appeal for me. That has never appealed to me... Screw that! Let's just stay home and watch football. 😂

@Mrgreen2558

2 жыл бұрын

Why you dont check islam go to islamic central and mosque look how the people perform their religion go and check about islam surely you will found the answer

Going to church to meet a “good woman” is like going to the food court in the mall and eat someone else’s leftovers they have left behind on the table. Eating scraps on someone else’s plate after they have enjoyed the best part of the meal. Wink, wink, notch, notch.

Thank you Richard for having the courage to speak the truth... the shepherds/priests are wolves in sheep’s clothing. Good to know priests are covertly red pill...

Christianity have been corrupted for a long time. It's done for. You gotta look for your true purpose and maybe look into a religion that isn't corrupted. Peace.

@josephllinas2672

2 жыл бұрын

Or...and hear me out. Just actually be a real Christian and don't allow other people's actions to control your practice.

@byb7915

2 жыл бұрын

@@josephllinas2672 I think Christianity is good, but Christians nowadays are just saying they are Christians without action or evidence, they drink, eat pork, have sex and they are not even trying not to, and they don't know what's in the bible. Generally speaking of course.

@reyuzel8133

2 жыл бұрын

@@josephllinas2672 The bible been changed constantly in this period of time we living in. It's not original anymore.

@Kubai

2 жыл бұрын

That’s your opinion, may god have mercy on your soul

@josephllinas2672

2 жыл бұрын

@@reyuzel8133 I didn't say anything about the Bible, I said be a Christian. Christianity is a relationship with God, not a religion.

Religion is very family based. Single people, divorced people, etc are not going to church

Good segment, needs more depth and perhaps both of you to delve into masculinity and religion and how it has differed over time since its founding.

Because besides Islam, modern religion is gynocentric and primarily serves women at the expense of men Keyword is modern. Liberalized religion destroys the original religion.

@equityjustice2695

2 жыл бұрын

Facts..👍💯. I said it already ISLAM is needed to fix the west. But people are so propagandized, that they are scared of ISLAM

@equityjustice2695

2 жыл бұрын

Another thing in a mosque, women have their own area. They aren't allowed to mix with the men.

@HisMajesty99

2 жыл бұрын

@@equityjustice2695 either Islam or very, very old school traditional Catholicism. Judaism is the most liberalizing force in the west, partly responsible for the liberalization of Christianity, so that’s a lost cause. But rn, Islam is the only religion that maintains a real social order instead of letting endless hedonism and degeneracy propagate and destroy people, society, civilization, gender relations, and family structure.

@brendabrenda6782

Жыл бұрын

It is Christianity, not Islam, that has been the focus of destruction for leftist, communist and globalist movements for at least a century. It is Christianity that is under attack. There would be no destruction of the West without first destroying Christianity. Islam only holds up to this day because it forbids anything and everything that goes against their religion. Islam has no merit. They are simply not targeted for attack and destruction like Christians are. If it weren't for the moralistic and oppressive rules in Islam, you can be sure that they wouldn't be better than the West.

Both religion and dating are illogical endeavours. Religion is having a relationship with an imaginary friend, while dating is having a relationship with narcissist who will leave you for someone better.

@Cbd_7ohm

2 жыл бұрын

Yes.

@haselbasil2488

2 жыл бұрын

Really, ALL women are narcissists ? You sound like the radical feminists who say all men are bad.

@lysanderofsparta3708

2 жыл бұрын

Interesting that you use the term "illogical", which derives from the Greek word "Logos", which is itself a religious concept -- meaning the fundamental supernatural order of the universe, i.e., the mind of God. The Gospel of John refers to "the Logos incarnate". To say that something is "illogical" is literally to say that it is "contrary to the fundamental supernatural order of the universe -- i.e., the mind of God".

Sunday night 31 October 2021. Act 16 : 31. God bless.

And a lot of these churches have turn into cash registers… my last girl was a So called religious women.. hand in the air with prayer .. 🤣And guess what she was a cheater and liar… What a full I was… Lessoned learned..I still believe in the Lord I just don’t know if he lives in the church like he used to…

My two cents worth. I think religion/christianity/churchianity has done much good in that in the past it clearly defined men's and women's roles. Unfortunately, not so much anymore. After spending my life researching religion I have come to the conclusion that organized religion is not based in reality and fact, but in wishful thinking. I do believe (based on the detailed complexity and order within the universe) that there must have been a first cause. Who or what that force was we can only speculate as that ENTITY has chosen to remain in silent obscurity.

If you want to find a good girl for vetting, you would have to go to a Turning Point USA event

It kind of hurt to see this, but as a Christian man, this is true. I don’t blame God for it, I blame society and church leaders for not keeping up with the times. For some reason, God allows it. I grew up in a Christian home. I parted ways when I was 18, and dedicated my life to Christ at 36. I dated a couple girls at church, and I had no success. Both of those girls ended up dating outside church to guys who have no religious background. I myself, ended up finding a good Catholic girl overseas who I am now married to. So I can somewhat relate to Tomassi’s argument.

Wtf. I do not understand how humans join and leave religions so easily. Either you see evidence for x religion then join it or you leave it when you think and decide that the evidence doesn’t actually prove the religion is true. But how I’ve noticed humans join and leave based on if it improves their life or makes them feel good, even if they don’t have a logical proof/evidence that they use to actually believe that the religion is true.

Religion in the West has Followed society instead of Influencing society

@skylinefever

2 жыл бұрын

Well, how should it influence society. We don't need a society where the Salem Witch Hunt is still a thing.

@kenandrieling5885

2 жыл бұрын

@@skylinefever are you an Atheist?

@skylinefever

2 жыл бұрын

@@kenandrieling5885 Yes.

@kenandrieling5885

2 жыл бұрын

@@skylinefever I'm am atheist as well Are you liberal?

@skylinefever

2 жыл бұрын

@@kenandrieling5885 I don't consider myself very liberal or very conservative. I just don't have any strong political ideas. People should be allowed to buy weed and buy guns to sort of sum it up.

American Christianity in every major denomination is sopped in feminism.

I was born and raised a Catholic and still have a complete and profound belief in God However I have lost all faith in and respect for the Catholic Church as it went down hill on full afterburner after the loss of Pope John Paul as it's mortal leadership When Notra Dame invited president nObama a champion of slaughtering the unborn to be a commencement speaker I loss all use for the Catholic church When the cardinal of NYC refused to excommunicate the Mayor after he allowed regulation that a woman could actually have her new born babies life ended my.lack of respect for the Catholic church turned to dispisement Religion is a very good thing but like all organizations it's only as good as long as it remains true to its core values and adheres to the rules and only the members can insure the leaders remain true to thier rules and values.

@maghrebforever2012

2 жыл бұрын

Precisely. Any Catholic who is at least acquainted with the statements and policies of Pope Francis over the last few years knows they have been utterly corrupted. Add the molestation scandals and cover up..it's not like a reasonable person expects perfection and stasis but the cover up scandals alone destroyed any credibility they had. Pope Francis is a globalist anyways, not a Catholic. Oh, don't forget that prior to Pope Francis installation that Pope Benedict XVI is the only Pope in over two thousand years to have resigned. It's just a coincidence of course.

@mrgee1959

2 жыл бұрын

I am divorced so I am excommunicated from the Catholic church

@johnyang1420

2 жыл бұрын

@@mrgee1959 No you are not.

@johnyang1420

2 жыл бұрын

Ignore Popes personal opinion and respect the papal office. The Pope has changed nothing about what Catholic church teaches. Please check the Catechism.

Here's why, Men are logical beings, women emotional. Religion caters to emotion not logic

@arturkvieira

2 жыл бұрын

Only to those who dont care to put time into actual study.

@lysanderofsparta3708

2 жыл бұрын

Your statement is only true for Pentecostals.

@thelostmarbles4310

2 жыл бұрын

Religion isn't really 'emotional' or 'logical' rather it is allegorical, in the sense that 'truth' is found in the meaning of narrative.

@lysanderofsparta3708

2 жыл бұрын

@@thelostmarbles4310 WTF?

Sadly, single men that decide to attend a church are usually the target of shit quality single/divorced women the pastor/priest/bishop needs to get married off so someone else can carry their burden for awhile.

I discovered Rollo Thommasi and the RP after brutal experience with religious girl. The problem is not in religion per se, more in membership of that religion... 😁

I started a church call, "House of Wokistan" send your love gifts and I will send you my new book called "Unicorns do exist '

I noticed a connection between all religions and stumbled across the world's oldest texts the Sumarian Tablets. After looking into it it explains perfectly why people exist and why we are the way we are. People are not complex they just think they are to feel special but they all live in a pattern of some sort. The god most seem to think of to me are the Anunnaki which are an advanced and long living race that created us similar to how we created modern dogs. In the beginning there was a massive source of energy and from that energy the universe was born (big bang) and that energy still exists expanding outward but that energy wouldn't give a rats ass about beings smaller than a grain of sand and that energy in many religions is given a persona like Khaos in Greek mythology. To me relying on an unproven entity to guide the way is lazy and that time could be spent better by having faith in yourself and your family.

The way I have heard it: Religion is not for everyone, but God is.

@johnyang1420

2 жыл бұрын

Jesus started Catholic church.

I’m 20, and I have a tough relationship and view of God. I separate Jesus and God the Father, seeing Jesus as loving and God the Father as complicated not very caring of me. I’ve struggled and the women that have hurt me and manipulated me the worst were from the Seventh day Adventist church or grew up in it(which I was raised in). Christianity teaches men to be women pleasers and bitches, and I have a deep issue with that shit. I’ve found confidence and some happiness after God left me and abandoned me in my worst condition and when I decided to walk my own path(my ex(who was 5 years older and didn’t have a high school diploma still)manipulated and broke me, I didn’t know what I wanted to pursue in life as a viable career, and my father, who had been sick for 5-6 years, died. It all happened in less than 6 months, one after another. And when I cried out to God for peace and help, he ignored me. When I opened his bible, it angered me, because the verses of comfort I used to read, were now verses that taunted me and flipped the middle finger to my struggle. So I gave on God, since he obviously didn’t have as much interest in healing me as I thought he would have had. Anyways, great message sir

@lucascoelho1995

2 жыл бұрын

Great comment, I also cried out for God help recently but I don’t see to get any of his help

Why did RELIGION abandon MEN?

@JoeB0604

2 жыл бұрын

because they needed to appease feminists. as long as women were unhappy inside the church when they couldn't find men, they started controlling the church

@IFYOUWANTITGOGETIT

2 жыл бұрын

Because the church understands the power that women have over men. If they retain the women the men will be retained. The only way to retain men is through sex or logic and we both know the church isn’t providing any logic. Lol

@JoeB0604

2 жыл бұрын

@@IFYOUWANTITGOGETIT incorrect. you can rail on the church all you want, but that doesn't prove nor disprove theology. sex or logic are not the only ways to "retain" a man, because for centuries men led the church and led the family to church. it's only in the last generations that changed.

@IFYOUWANTITGOGETIT

2 жыл бұрын

@@JoeB0604 in the past fear of death was stronger due to war and disease. Death was all around people constantly allowing the church to cash in on indulgences and promise of a better afterlife. Common seriously?!

@JoeB0604

2 жыл бұрын

@@IFYOUWANTITGOGETIT that's cherry picking the entirety of one denomination of one religion. but yeah, you should stick with that 😉

I grew up in the church and was a youth pastor who went to seminary. Now I'm an atheist, but not a bitter one. I will have to say in my experience with being in so many churches in different cities, the best women are Christian women usually. But, I'm too connected to my beliefs to go after a Christian woman. However, the ones who grew up in church and have walked away from it usually dont have a high body count. But, I have had many women get annoyed with my atheism though they haven't been to church in over a decade. Some of my experiences with those kinds usually have bad dating patterns, but can quickly use God to get self-righteous. Ever noticed how both conservative and liberal women can get self-righteous? Ha!

@thelostmarbles4310

2 жыл бұрын

Are you an atheist as a result of an experience or the result of a logical conclusion... or both.

Even the pope is woke now

@professorlayabout4878

2 жыл бұрын

A full blown commie, actually.

Oh. Wow. So...someone finally said it. Yes, the Church is feminine. I can attend Mass, as long as I sit quietly and listen in a well-mannered behavior like a little 9-year-old school girl while clergy lecture me on how to be a better human being while they continue to ignore their sexual deviance and culpability in one scandal after another. Hmm. Wanna "reach" me? Well, for starters father, try raising a family of your own. And where the hell is your sub-machinegun? Be a Warrior, for the love of God.

I was a strong believer in God 10 years ago but not anymore. Simply because it really f+ks my mind up.

@liby254

2 жыл бұрын

Why?

Pastor michael Forster would have a good conversation here

I’m actually going through the 18 - 28 phase where I was getting right with God. I went back to church. Was dragged there by a beautiful woman. Now I’m back in the streets. Cause indeed like the video said, Its feminized and nothing is really there.

@austin7331

Ай бұрын

same boat here

If men look to the church for faith and then how you help others .Through construction or other programs Or leading other men to be Men. Church can be place where a Alpha male high achiever person can thrive.

@Ark_bleu

2 жыл бұрын

Agreed. Red pill leads people away from secular traps but as an online space it doesn’t. Despite what’s been said here, Churches are wide open to the right kind of men. I think there’s just some awkwardness to get through at the beginning as with anything

Isaiah 3:12 ¶ As for my people, children are their oppressors , and WOMEN RULE over them: O my people, they which lead thee, cause thee to err, and DESTROY the way of thy paths. This was prophesied that this would happen. Stay cold fellas.

Mainline religion has compromised itself into irrelevance. Pretty much Self-Help lite.

There’s 1200 religions made by mankind god is not a religion

This is one of the prophecies of the Bible. 2 Thessalonians 2 : 1-3. We playing right into the enemies hands.

I was once a Christian and now a spiritual atheist. I love philosophy and try to apply Stoicism to my life. I now apply practical things to my life and not supernatural views. What's interesting though is I find so many women who aren't in Orthodox religion, but once were who are into weird shit like crystals, psychics, and believing in reincarnation. They leave one religious idea that can't be proven and to something else that cant be proven. Its about feelings, I guess. I'm never a jerk about my atheism. I actually respect religion as long as people aren't mean with their views. However, every woman that I have talked to who isn't religious in an orthodox way usually doesn't like my lack of faith in things that can't be proven. I once thought I could just let a woman have her views and I have mine and learn to care for each other regardless. However, many women can't get over it. So knowing that I stand respectfully and kindly on my views.

@biggibbs4678

2 жыл бұрын

Stoicism is basically a pseudo religion. Faith aims for the same thing, not worrying about things you can't control.

Do some discussion on your views about the Sigma Male?

Religious say to men get married and take care of single mothers.

Yep its in my church.. my wife left the marriage and the whole church I'd ralling around her and I'm there alone.. and it was my church.. and she left the marriage because she don't want to be married and I'm the bad guy

Abandoning the church not faith!

@rogerthornhill1491

2 жыл бұрын

Why is faith even required ?

@thomascampbell7318

2 жыл бұрын

@@rogerthornhill1491 I don't think faith is required. But if you don't think there's a fourth dimension and you're leading your entire life like this is it you have a problem. I think my relatives are watching my every move and I need to try to be as good a person as possible so I can move up in levels.

Religion is fading, thank God for that :D

@Cbd_7ohm

2 жыл бұрын

Ba dum tis.

@madams989

2 жыл бұрын

This surprisingly made me laugh

@Mrgreen2558

2 жыл бұрын

islam is growing and other religions is fading away

I sometimes find myself looking at men with strong faith like a single fat baby momma looks at an alpha. I am too embarrassed to ever approach one though so meeting a great man of faith in the church is near impossible.

@generalhospital8208

2 жыл бұрын

Don't count on it my old church we use to have about 300 people and we had 2 days so some would come one day and the others day. But the group I want with was like 6 married couples and the rest single people and alot of single mother probably 67% were. The church would try and get us to hook up with them so day by day less and less men before I left there was probably 60 women and 10 dudes and that included the married men I got sick of that sinner looking for a handout

It's simple. God is nature. The indisputable order of the universe - not a man in the sky. The devil is the arrogance of man. The insistence on resisting nature - not a red man underground. The End.

@Cbd_7ohm

2 жыл бұрын

Correct.

I have never been to or seen a masculine christian church.

Will a Men's only Church Work?

Very little you said is wrong, but here is how the church gets men back: 1. De-feminize it. Don't make church a secure, comfortable place. Make it challenging. 2. The pastor must focus on attracting men. 3. Build a big children's and youth ministry. 4. Attract a lot of young men through the youth and college ministries. Focus on them as well. 5. If you get males you'll get females as well.