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Chris, you are correct, that empty space on Minock Street was where the Samuel Dixon Elementary school once stood.

Copper canyon was on the other side of rouge park. It was called that because 75% of residents were police officer’s and other city workers pre 2000. Also Warrendale is 48228. West Warren is exit 8 on Southfield fwy.

@MazichMusic

Жыл бұрын

That would have included teachers and and administrators once upon a time.

@1L6E6VHF

Жыл бұрын

There was also a Copper Canyon East, everything East of the Heilman Recreation center, which was also the the divide between Kelly Road, southbound traffic Detroit, northbound traffic Harper Woods. Copper Canyon West was in the 48239, IIRC.

@drpoundsign

Жыл бұрын

@@1L6E6VHF That's what I always think of when I hear "Copper Canyon."

I remember this area as mostly farm land in the 1950s. I use to ride my bike down Joy Road to Rouge Park.

@1L6E6VHF

Жыл бұрын

Our Copper Canyon house was built in 1951. It had Zonolite insulation in the attic, which I later learned had traces of Asbestos.

It was called Copper Canyon because it was heavily area lived Police & Fireman families Lived. This was my scout car area, that 16 pct. D.P.D.

I don't live in Michigan but I'm a lifelong detroit enthusiast

I don't know anyone from Detroit or even Michigan. I have no plans or even desire to travel there. But, here I am. Your channel is addictive! Thank you for all the work you put into it.

@1L6E6VHF

Жыл бұрын

If you haven't been to the shorelines of Northwestern Lower Michigan and the Pictured Rocks in the U.P. (Upper Peninsula) - just go there!

@1L6E6VHF

Жыл бұрын

Sad that you don't want to visit Michigan. Experience great swimming without the salty aftertaste!

Chris your narration of these videos are excellent

@ChrisHarden

Жыл бұрын

Thanks!

Great episode. Glad you mentioned the abandoned building removal program, it explains a lot of the empty lots. Sad that "unintended consequences" like the municipal workers ruling, can completely ruin a nice little middle class community like this one. The Detroit series has been very educational. Enjoy the second channel content ad well.. Happy Weekend 😊

@GuyMontag425

7 ай бұрын

I believe most of the empty lots are from structure fires (as a retired GR firefighter that's what I always notice in old cities). Even before I left Detroit in 1992, the house behind ours (@ 16:02, 16:13 & 16:20) had burned down. The neighborhood really went to hell after the 2008 recession with a bunch of foreclosures. Hard to believe, but the neighborhood actually looks better now than it did a few years ago!

Considering many of those subdivisions were built 80+ years ago, the ones that are well maintained and groomed are in really good condition. Here in New Zealand we had a huge post WW2 building boom and styles are remarkably similar to these homes, so similar it’s like they came out of the same IKEA box.

Your Detroit series made me realize I had driven nearly every street in Detroit back in the 70s and 80s. Having worked out of Dearborn Hgts I traveled to this area often. Van Buren used to be so bad there were no smooth areas of road back then. Cat nap on Faust.

@injs1236

Жыл бұрын

Paul Street before FMC land development built up the malls etc. Remember it was such a pretty ride the city of Detroit kept it bumpy so people would not speed tour passed the woods and farm fields.

@mikeymoonie4373

2 ай бұрын

Cats be napping in the middle of the street thinking they own the damn place 😂

"Copper Canyon" Because a whole bunch of cops lived around there and it sounded better then "Pig Canyon" or Fuzzy Canyon"

@eveanneeskie1346

Жыл бұрын

Yes, Copper Canyon was far west side of Detroit. There were some "hills" in that area too. Many officers also lived on East side, Cadieux and Mack /I-94 area. Lots of history in that Grosse Pointe/ Detroit border area!👍❤ thank you for your videos. We enjoy them a lot!

I like the way you show the good as well as the bad!

I briefly lived off Warren Avenue in Dearborn around 1990. I drove through Warrendale quite a few times to access the Southfield Freeway, and it seemed like a nice neighborhood back them. Of course, that was over 30 years ago.

It's crazy I used to live in that neighborhood back in 2010 and even went to the Dixon school I graduated from there the year it closed down. Once scrappers got ahold of it I knew the whole building would eventually be gone 😭. Definitely a great video and a trip down memory lane🥲

@ 13:50, there was a school there. Even when I was growing up in that neighborhood, that school was in decline. Thanks for the run down memory lane--great channel

@mikeymoonie4373

2 ай бұрын

That was Dixon. My neighbors used to go there at the same time I was going to what is now some type of Detroit charter school (he says the name of it) But it used to be Saints Peter & Paul school & the church are basically connected. It was such a nice place to go really! Very beautiful, I can only hope they are keeping the building nice.

Copper Canyon was really over by 5 mile and telegraph. When Detroit Pol lice and Fire Depts. used to require "Detroit Residence" Copper Canyon came to fame because it was one of the most safest, say up scale neighborhoods for Police and Fire servents to have a Detroit address in. Copper Canyon is more like across the Rough River from Brightmoore.

Good vid. Live around here. The farther north you go from Warren Ave the worse it gets as far as crime goes. You will hear multiple gun shots through out the night in the summer. After Colman Young in the 80s the area really started to decline. By the 90s the blight really kicked off. Its a block by block thing. This particular area can be pretty bad in certain areas but it is cheap to live here and the closer to Dearborn the better. Its alright for singles or couples starting out if they buy/rent south of Tireman and east of Sothfield but the schools are horrible and are in really bad areas so not good for families. Joy Road, murder row, is particularly bad. The middle eastern immigrants have definitely been a small boon to the area by investing in small businesses but there is no real nite life. You can just travel down Eest Warren for food or go to West Dearborn for bars and restaurants. Rouge Park does have a small field that is maintained and used for model airplanes.

@hellokiya1

Жыл бұрын

Really? Was thinking of purchasing a home on Joy rd and Warwick. I guess that would be a bad bet for a family huh?

@Balal8281

9 ай бұрын

@@hellokiya1not a bad area but he’s right, aim for south of Tireman if you’re thinking Warwick.. I live on Tireman on the other side of Rouge Park. It’s all still Detroit here until you pass West Parkway Ave.. but it’s a little better on this side of Rouge Park and better for families. It’s LOTS of kids in this neighborhood. Obviously if you can afford to move west of West Parkway in the suburbs of either Redford (north of Joy Rd) or Dearborn Heights (south of Joy Rd), you’d be best off.

It looks actually pretty nice to me. So green. Its so weird to me that the cars don't have license plates on the front.

@1L6E6VHF

Жыл бұрын

Correct. In the early 1980s, Michigan switched from two licenses to one. They found that people were sharing plates to flaunt the law.

Holy shit ... Switch the beat up. The remix down Joy Rd at the end has me cracking tf up Chris. If I was debating to check out any more of your videos, this has helped me decide fo sho hahaha.

Thanks!

@ChrisHarden

Жыл бұрын

Thank you, you're awesome!

I appreciate when you reference the zip code(s) that correlate to each neighborhood.

You just passed Vista Maria. A Catholic "reform school" started for pregnant girls in the 1950s but eventually became a school/ say "holding tank" for all kinds of Catholic girl criminals or say, girls who's family wanted their daughters to reform in some way. In the 70s we used to climb the fence at night and sneak up to the dorm windows etc etc.

@mikeymoonie4373

2 ай бұрын

I've heard stories about this place, but it wasn't until I moved away. Growing up around here, I always used to wonder what that place was, because it was definitely SOMETHING. It was kinda hard not to notice, even tho it's pushed way back off the street, the place is big, and I believe my GodMother & another friend of mine were once "enrolled" there. Kinda weird that they were both pregnant teenagers when they were sent, I mean attended.

16:02 yellow house on NE corner of Stahelin was my house in high school. Door was gone in Sept 2022. Walked thru quickly. Stripped out and left quickly after finding mattress upstairs.

@GuyMontag425

7 ай бұрын

Bro, @ 16:13, after showing right side of street, shows 8600 Stahelin on the left side for a few seconds.

@GuyMontag425

7 ай бұрын

@ 16:20 another brief shot of 8600; so, 3 separate video sections of old house.

@Milhouse77BS

7 ай бұрын

⁠@@GuyMontag4258600 Stahelin Roger that’s our house and 16:20

@GuyMontag425

7 ай бұрын

Lessenger middle school, where my brother and I attended 8th grade (now Dixon) in 1979, is at 23:46, 23:08, and 23:23. Near the end, at 26:45, on the right you can see the old Dairy Queen at the corner of Joy & Stahelin (one block north of our old house) just past that is Tony's Auto where we used to catch the city bus to get to Renaissance High.

Hey Chris, What up doe ? Nice videos bro. Thanks for sharing your videos with us

@ChrisHarden

Жыл бұрын

What up Jimmy?

@jimmylongmyonlinevideos6711

Жыл бұрын

@@ChrisHarden I just wanted to say nice vids bro. Keep up the good work. Peace.

@ChrisHarden

Жыл бұрын

@@jimmylongmyonlinevideos6711 appreciate it! Will do. Thanks for watching

Don't forget "the Warrendale Currier" a local newspaper printed just for Warrendale residents. Went out of circulation around late 1956s.

Lessenger middle school, where my brother and I attended 8th grade (now Dixon) in 1979, is at 23:46, 23:08, and 23:23. Near the end, at 26:45, on the right you can see the old Dairy Queen at the corner of Joy & Stahelin (one block north of our old house) just past that is Tony's Auto where we used to catch the city bus to get to Renaissance High.

you should do a video of fenton michigan, it’s on the outskirts of flint and it’s a nice place, it would be nice to show people that it’s not all bad

I grew up at 6900 Auburn st, originally apart of Dbn Hgts sold to Detroit with stipulations, that were pretty much racist AF! Auburn had a different street name (can’t remember the name) Detroit didn’t adhere to the stipulations. I went to George Washington Carver elementary. Had amazing teachers from 2nd to the beginning of 7th grade. My sister and I lived with our dad until mother decided to lie to FOC to get custody. Detroit will forever hold my heart! My aunt/godmother still lives on Auburn next door to my childhood home, and her son lives across the street from her.

I was wondering when you'd do my hood lol

This is where I am from. Warrendale.... i lived on Brace... 4 houses from Paul.

Some streets are pretty much intact while others nearby are abandoned urban prairie. Seems so random!

I used to live in Warrendale. Glad I moved to Toledo

Copper Canyon came from the era when the city mandated all employees had to reside within the corporate city limits and a lot of Police and Firefighters resided at edge of those limits. Copper as in Police...

@ChrisHarden

Жыл бұрын

I’ve heard of many nicknames for police officers but I’ve never heard the term of copper used before. I guess you learn new things everyday.

@OnGod1007

9 ай бұрын

Should be a mandate still

Warrendale might not be as nice as it was in the 80s and 90s, but it still looks pretty good here.

So many parks

it's so much potential. What is really holding the people back? is it cost and they just don't want to be bothered? The auto industry has been gone it can't still be that.

@ChrisHarden

Жыл бұрын

I think people overall are just scared to move in and invest in a home in Detroit, and it doesn’t help that there are much better places to choose from in the Metro Detroit area if you have the job and the money.

Reposting since the link to flicker caused the previous one to be deleted: The abandoned lot you filmed at Tireman and Minock was an elementary school called Samuel B Dixon school, closed in 2010 and demolished in 2017. It looks like the charter school on Trinity that you also filmed decided to start using the Dixon name.

A note: When you correctly showed a map of the 48228 Zip Code, you accidentally said "48224" (East English Village, the easternmost Detroit neighborhood, where I grew up). I later moved to a house in 48239, a smaller neighborhood tucked in between Rouge Park with Dearborn being directly south.

Lots of ghost towns in Upper Michigan with buildings still standing. The town I live in once had a hotel, store, school, church. Now there is nothing.

@ChrisHarden

Жыл бұрын

Sure is. What’s your town?

@up-uw4op

Жыл бұрын

@@ChrisHarden im in keweenaw bay which is near other ghost towns like alston, nisula, pelkie, pequaming, and many more in the area and across the UP. The mines shut down and everyone left to the ford factory in detroit.

@1L6E6VHF

Жыл бұрын

Let me guess.. The mine closed?

@up-uw4op

Жыл бұрын

@@1L6E6VHF yea almost all of them. plus the pay wasn't as high as working at the car factories down state.

Devils night is urban renewal. Theyre helping clear out all the blight.

@ChrisHarden

Жыл бұрын

Haha maybe so

@ejd1149

Жыл бұрын

I agree, nothing worse than abandoned buildings all over the place. Much nicer to look at an empty field.

That's what happened to Mount Clemens when the Residential requirements were lifted for Employees and Others .

Love right here 5:05

You ever going to do Windsor?

@ChrisHarden

Жыл бұрын

Yes one day

@1L6E6VHF

Жыл бұрын

He will need either a passport, or an *enhanced* driver license to enter Canada. An enhanced driver licence* will be needed to cross the international line. The enhanced license has features that are difficult to reproduce, and has data embedded within the licence. (License in the USA, Licence elsewhere).

Looks like a blue collar community. I can understand the city workers flight to the burbs. Other major cities ex:Chicago, NY make residency for cops and firemen a must. You get most of the employees living on the outskirts of the cities.

Glad u quickly maneuvered around the white vehicle at Greenview & Belton. Idk what the hell he's doing there with no stop/yield and its those little everyday scenarios that u must be prepared for.

Chris do they have neighborhood watch groups in the various neighborhoods in and around Detroit.

@ChrisHarden

Жыл бұрын

They do, I’ve seen signs posted on the better kept streets throughout the city.

@mikeymoonie4373

2 ай бұрын

Growing up here I know that the neighborhood watch actually existed and I'd see them cruising the streets. The signs have always been there, but as far as them still driving around patrolling the streets as part of a neighborhood watch... I don't think that's happening, and hasn't for a while now.

Have you ever considered Mount Clemens vs. Clinton Twp or Harrison Twp or Fraser ??? They all used to be Mount Clemens back in the day :)

@ChrisHarden

Жыл бұрын

Yup, I’ll make videos on those places one day

it looks nice to me

Warrendale is beautiful comparing to your footage video of Dort Hwy.

@ChrisHarden

Жыл бұрын

I agree

If you ever do a video outside michigian. Check out the infamous Gary, Indiana. It's straight hell abandon and falling apart people sparsely their. I thought was prob 2nd worst place saw. 1st was prob east st Louis Illinois (otheside of st Louis don't want you see). More spread out, but it was way more abandoned then gary/spread out loy more cover lot more land I think. Just felt like all homes and streets were even in a worse condition i don't know how that's possible. And saw shit ton of streets, just go into straight abandon forest roads/neighborhoods. Terms of all ghettos been in usa. Those 2 are far the worst. Prob safer though given drop of people, but they feel so amoneos.

@ChrisHarden

Жыл бұрын

One day I’ll go to Gary. Already have a video from 3 years ago on East St. Louis

Back in the 90s Warren was a place u didn't get car jacked at lunch! Now u don't go there!

Does anyone know the name of the Detroit neighborhood for 18600 Joseph Compu? Thanks

Don’t look that bad

missed the whole south end of Warrendale...Warren to Ford

@ChrisHarden

4 ай бұрын

Oh well.

@mikeymoonie4373

2 ай бұрын

No he didn't. That was the very beginning 😂

If its in the video I rode my bike there or walked it all and then some. Would i do the same thing today? Maybe if i wasn't 40 and a licensed driver because its still not all that bad. Much like ANYWHERE u go in any hood, any city, there are just certain blocks to avoid.

I grew up here in the late 90s and 2000s on abington its a war zone now I would never go back

Back in the 60s human beings lived there!

Everyone from that neighborhood knows that the REAL Warrendale residents zipcode was 48239..... the rest were wannabe zoners....... thats what we called ourselves... Zoners

Wow terrible. Grew up there.

That was Dixon school. I went there

My cousin lived on Grandmont in the early 90's. Was still half decent then.

My grandpa live in the neighborhood