"Muscular men report more lifetime sex partners" - I'm doing my part to single-handedly drag this statistic down

@ilias-mu4vt

Ай бұрын

U are not alone bro😂

@menno.henselmans

Ай бұрын

Taking one for the team, we appreciate it, bro.

@matthewbusse1059

Ай бұрын

Yeah man don't try to hog all the glory

@gorgan3358

Ай бұрын

and muscular bikers report even more :)

@tayzk5929

Ай бұрын

Quality > Quantity when it comes to sexual partners

Everyone knows Kyriakos Grizzly is the ultimate male body

@leonkennedy9739

Ай бұрын

Like it or not Kyriakos is peak male performance.

@stevecollins6154

Ай бұрын

He is a absolute beast of a human that every man who wants to be a real man should strive to achieve 🎉

@wierdpocket

Ай бұрын

Full

@TrollBridgerton

Ай бұрын

Well that just goes without saying.

@esterfayziyev7118

Ай бұрын

finally

But then again, what women say and what women do is very different.

@Zeddicus1976

Ай бұрын

👆🏾this. Look at what women do, not what they say. Behavior never lies.

@twrkhanasparukh

Ай бұрын

Was thinking exactly the same.

@johnjohntv1195

Ай бұрын

Exactly. Tried explaining that studies like this are flawed but everyone keeps telling me “it’s accounted for” LMAO. You CAN’T account for it as you literally can’t know. Besides with most women you need only tick a few of their boxes and your in. Doesn’t really matter which ones just as long as you got one or enough of them that that specific girl you want in the moment happens to want at that moment in time. If you’ve got some of the following(there are even more than these, these are just examples): money, status, power, influence, charm, can make them laugh, can display intelligence, wit, socially adept, decisiveness, eye contact, connections, and you’re not ugly as hell, then you’re gonna do just fine and you shouldn’t care less what body type a women wants on you. Just lift.

@donaldmackerer9032

29 күн бұрын

Ain't that the truth! Yeah you definitely need to look at what they do over what they say!

@nbarealtalker

29 күн бұрын

Probably most scientific truth known to man.

I was ripped at 32 and dating a hot 23 year old. She wanted me to stop working out because, "other girls will also want you." Hard pass. She didn't realize I was working out for me, not anyone else. Twenty years later I am married (with two kids) to the woman that was most interested in me being healthy. Our 19 year anniversary is tomorrow.

@benhallo1553

Ай бұрын

You didn’t realise you weren’t working out for ‘you’

@fender1000100

Ай бұрын

Happy anniversary. 19 years in this era is impressive.

@armannstraughter3296

Ай бұрын

@@benhallo1553 ?

@rodarollada

Ай бұрын

@@benhallo1553, you know better, dadbod man.

@LH-lv4zs

Ай бұрын

Right on, Bro! The one thing that makes a woman GAIN ATTRACTION to her long-term partner is when he gets attention from another woman. Women want the attention... and for their guy to view them as "the prize" in the relationship. When it's reversed, they keep themselves "in check".

I have 15 women in my department. We discussed it and of course, regular dad bod won. Once, during the party when there was a little too much booze we spoke about it again. All of them agreed muscular jacked men are absolutely sexy but such partner raises possibility he will find a better women and leave + it puts pressure on them to also look good and they prefer shitty diet and netflix over the gym.

@mikuspalmis

28 күн бұрын

And so here we have the truth. This is what I had intuited but you've put it into words.

@Chiburi

22 күн бұрын

Yes, it’s about what they can afford and hold on to. I can say that I prefer a Volvo over a Jaguar (Lambos are tacky), but that’s because I can’t afford the Jaguar. That doesn’t mean that I think Volvos are hotter than Jags, like come on 😂

@Pestilentdeathx

20 күн бұрын

this is too accurate lol ​@@Chiburi

@chrishayes5755

19 күн бұрын

these are the types of women that will drain your soul and destroy your male energy over years if you live with them. they want to weaken you to lock you down. if you allow it and become weak, they lose attraction, sex goes away, high possibility she leaves. never let a woman influence you away from positive ideals or you will suffer.

@covidfartfog8076

19 күн бұрын

Good comment 👍

So, basically, Women prefer blokes who look like Greek statues? Makes sense. After all, that body type is basically a jacked natural.

@BWater-yq3jx

Ай бұрын

And mid bf% not shredded.

@Sulayman.786

Ай бұрын

Women like slim men with muscle = high testosterone

@titaenus

29 күн бұрын

@@BWater-yq3jx by mid i assume you mean 12-18%?

@AldousHuxley7

28 күн бұрын

Its called the golden ratio. Look it up very interesting. Ties into fibonocci sequence.

@recklessnotion1899

28 күн бұрын

Greek statues are just a replica of the actual physique of decendants from Africa

The issue with asking women what they like is that they often have no idea. What they respond to and what they say they like can be very different things.

@TempleOfWayne

Ай бұрын

And the answers will vary depending on which time of the month you ask them

@tonycamaj4560

Ай бұрын

💯

@tommybazar

Ай бұрын

Self-reported stuff is inherently veeeeery unreliable. It's the same with straight men consistently reporting ~20-50% more lifetime sexual partners then straight women, even though the average should obviously be equal for both sexes.

@zacharyiler136

Ай бұрын

It is absolutely not that they don't know. It is that they are HYPER sensitive to how they are percieved and will LIE to try to make themselves look better in people's opinions. They know, they just aren't going to tell you with their words. Watch their actions, hard to lie there.

@PooplexCanal

29 күн бұрын

Comparing sales of erotic books for women with a hyper masculine dude on the front page vs a regular looking dude should indicate that the hyper masculine look is indeed attractive to women.

It's real simple guys, and it's one of the golden rules of the universe: too much = bad and too little = bad. The truth is if you aren't on steroids you will never be too muscular.

@zacharyiler136

Ай бұрын

This is true, stay off sauce and work out to be the best "you" you can be.

@campersruincod6134

29 күн бұрын

100% correct

@qwittaice7672

28 күн бұрын

Chippendales were always sold out thou

@ProtoIndoEuropean88

27 күн бұрын

wrong. I never took steroids and I'm shredded and big.

@zacharyiler136

27 күн бұрын

@@ProtoIndoEuropean88 Either lucky genetics or lying :)

"..the bodybuilder was rated last..." Gee... I had no idea Arnold wasn't a bodybuilder.

@menno.henselmans

Ай бұрын

Ha, well spotted. I was thinking of 'the biggest guy'.

@thomasdovell3003

Ай бұрын

Not to mention that, at least in the set of pictures you are referring to, most guys had very muscular bodies. Bodies that take years to /build/ in the gym (unless you are on PEDs or are a genetic freak).

@VladimirPani

Ай бұрын

Arnold was consumed mostly by men.

@RA-lh9uh

Ай бұрын

he worked as a blacksmith this is how he got ripped

@darlinbood3991

28 күн бұрын

They know who he is. They can't separate that from his body.

they should do a study about which physique women actually pick on dating apps. I think people are often dishonest or mistaken about what they're actually attracted to.

@PlayersDevil

Ай бұрын

i would not go so far and say dishonest but it is hard to declare what you actually like. Sometimes i see completely different women and think they are attractive without actually knowing why. "You know it when you see it." I would not be able to picture this out.

@avibhagan

29 күн бұрын

50 % of people are dishonest about what they are attracted to, and 50% are honest. The honesty and dishonesty of people answering this question shows 100% positive correlation with XY and XX chromosome distribution .

@Tommy_007

29 күн бұрын

@@avibhagan And 50% don't get your point :-)

@agnidas5816

29 күн бұрын

picture of abs still works surprisingly well lmfao

@mrjon75

27 күн бұрын

"people"

women: i like fit muscular men Men: i like fit toned women Women: how dare you?

@GAB-vq7re

28 күн бұрын

😂

@jr5993

20 күн бұрын

Who tf wants a toned woman. Hard pass

@deanfirnatine7814

15 күн бұрын

So True, the hypocrisy from women is always astounding.

@carlmarch9591

15 күн бұрын

👏😂

@user-tx4wj7qk4t

12 күн бұрын

The video he posted about wmn's bodies is a warzone

Women say they prefer to hit-and-runs with muscular men. Muscular men to blame, say women.

@joaquin67

Ай бұрын

Lmao, for real wtf

@allin4559

Ай бұрын

Very funny but true .. fit attractive men also call the women's self confidence into play .. they know he will not be as much of a simp to control

@agnidas5816

29 күн бұрын

lol. they say that to cope with the fact that they get forgotten. they beg to marry these guys and say they are soulmates etc. Read enough reports from the men.

I think the part around 5:00 in the video is very telling. Basically woman like to "think" they want less muscular, more stable men, but they really don't hence why more muscular men tend to find themselves with more woman. Honestly in my experience most women tend to lie themselves quite a bit.

@amorfati4927

Ай бұрын

Women lie to themselves literally all the time. Nothing more obvious that the stupid and intentional attempt to split us even more with the “man vs bear” thing going on. They’re been told that men are creeps (and some are). However, since they’ve seen a bear in the zoo or seen a bear in the woods 300ft away… so they think there’s 0% chance a bear is going to do anything to them when they’re within 2ft of each other… Yet, they interact or are within a couple ft of men… which most women probably have that happen 50-100 times a day without realizing it (just walking by in the street or at work) with nothing happening… but since they watch one too many true crime documentaries, every once in awhile they see someone they don’t find attractive look at them 2 seconds too long (because if they found them attractive they’d be whipping their hair and be flustered) or they’ve had a friend or heard of someone have an unfavorable experience at a bar or at a party they default that it’s less likely a bear is going to do anything to them if they bump shoulders in the woods than a man. Objectively insane and irrational. Yet almost every woman says “bear” and have crazy mental gymnastics to justify their reasoning.

@jenspflug7473

29 күн бұрын

Part of their weakness.....

@hastensavoir7782

22 күн бұрын

Big ass Liars. They’re gonna have their reckoning.

@wowandrss

19 күн бұрын

The same way you'd prioritize a sexy looking woman for a hook up, so do women. This isn't confusing. Men will 100% lower their body/physique standards if the woman is amazing in other aspects, so will women. Preferring body types and the complexities of relationships, long term mating goals etc, it's very very complex and can't be boiled down to any one simple aspect.

@overcomerbtbojesus

4 күн бұрын

Well this woman isn’t i’m a gym rat who values my health and appearance and my preference is definitely a muscularity fit man who works out not the guy with a dad bod who sits on the couch pizza and netflix 😂

I am 75 years old, in my 20's and 30's, I worked out 4-5 days a week consistently, trying to compensate for poor genetics. I was on the short side, barely 5'9" and always weighing in between 155-160. I was an above-average looking guy with a bit of a bad boy persona. I got "more ass than a toilet seat" until my mid 30's when I met the love of my wife little a German knockout 10 years my junior, I married her at 36. Her god-given body was so good I felt an obligation to keep mine up and still work out 3-5 days a week. Forty years later we are retired on the beach and still happy with an active and fulfilling sex life. Working out was the smartest thing I ever did.

@hastensavoir7782

22 күн бұрын

There’s nothing short with 5’9 unless you’re in the NBA. We have similar built. Sans for the bad boy persona I’m the quintessential Nice Guy look so I never had any lady I like.

@santhoshp9521

21 күн бұрын

Thanks for the story... 👍

@chayoto

21 күн бұрын

"Barely 5 9", you say? My guy, I never got past 5'5".

@TheJas20

20 күн бұрын

You're not short, you're average height.

@chrishayes5755

19 күн бұрын

@@pierre-yveschauvet5136 get your ass to the gym. that's what.

My personal observation: In my 20s, it was a 50/50 talking to girls and that's only because I had confidence when drinking. Sober, I would strike out. Girls never came up to me at all. In my 30s, I tried to get healthier and when I got down to about 9-11% bodyfat every summer, girls came up to me. I had natural confidence and was more like 80/20 on success with girls. I'm 43 now and about 15% bodyfat and look and feel healthy not caring about getting under 10%. I'm eating clean and exercising but doing it for myself and health. Conclusion: Confidence only gets you so far with girls. It's physical appeal they want to hold and touch and bang. Don't let them fool you with "looks aren't that important". They're just as shallow as we are, guys!

@MrDanielvass

19 күн бұрын

It’s not “shallow”, there are hard biological reasons for being attracted to physically beautiful people and repulsed by the opposite.

@itpugil

19 күн бұрын

@@MrDanielvass the shallow part is societal shaming, not really biological.

@moneymakinmitch8130

17 күн бұрын

Should you expect girls in their 20s specifically early 20s to approach as much as ones in their late 20s/early 30s? I feel like the older ones do way more approaching in comparison to the younger ones

@user-tx4wj7qk4t

12 күн бұрын

These people will gaslight you into thinking otherwise but this is self evident. There are studies showing there is a looks threshold for them to even start caring about "your personality"

@redditor7548

11 сағат бұрын

They are even more shallow, our check list is -don’t be fat - don’t have huge body count - don’t be old Their check list is -must be 6ft+ -must make 6 figures -must be ripped/muscular -must be packing a big one -must have good head of hair -must be very sociable/charismatic -must have large friend circle -must not give the “ick” by being sad at any time regardless of circumstance -must be funny -good jaw line -must have past experience (can’t be a virgin) or you will give them the “ick”

That frame after stating that muscular men hook up with mated women more 😂

Nibody wants to look like a pro body builder except other body builders

1. What women feel for dad bod types, is not attraction, but COMFORT. The COMFORT of not have to deal with other competing women. 2. I have an hypothesis about one reason why women do not like very muscular guys: they want a man who when is interacting with other people, does not scare them much, and so have a more abundant social circle.

Let me know if you prefer more direct fitness content or if you like some detours into personal development, psychology and lifestyle optimization.

@danieldeli3196

Ай бұрын

Hi Menno, I really liked your scientific approach on non-fitness topics. I'd appreciate more of it.👍

@susscrofamustermann9688

Ай бұрын

I'm here for the fitness content, but I'm well aware that a younger audience might flock to the other type of content in search for a little guidance, and I'd rather have them find someone like you rather than charlatans like jbp or tate.

@user-ii7xc1ry3x

Ай бұрын

@@danieldeli3196 Same. I take all and any of your content Menno #kindabiased

@ParvParashar

Ай бұрын

I absolutely love both kinds of videos! The direct fitness videos are top-notch and the self-improvement, psychology and lifestyle optimization related videos are just as amazing! I really enjoy watching them and learning plenty of valuable and helpful information. 🙌

@1m2ogaming

Ай бұрын

I would like more content overall. Def interested on other attraction videos, maybe some social skills e.t.c. Obviously would like more fitness also so.

Based on the feedback, I'll also post a vid of 'what men want'... which will probably get me in trouble. I'll mix it in with more direct fitness content after the next vid.

@ucyqweyq7whucvn141

7 күн бұрын

Gender equality!

This just seems like women genuinely do like the quite muscular physiques but are afraid of the men leaving them. Or even women feel self conscious when they look that good.

@mikec518

Ай бұрын

Interesting take. I'm also thinking about how it relates to the statistics with women hooking up preferring more muscle. It would be cool to see data which accounts for this

@tinycatfromhell

Ай бұрын

Not really. I'm a gym rat, I know every man looks at me when I enter the gym, and not even I like guys who are huge. Lean and not too voluminous is where it's at for me.

@user-qc1uo8fg6h

Ай бұрын

@@tinycatfromhell Well, ig the best physique is that guy with big shoulders, 6 pack and tiny hips. luckily id say i have the best kind of physique :D

@matthewjonas8952

Ай бұрын

A lot of women associate very muscular dudes with being egotistical assholes, because, for whatever reason, a good portion are. Enough muscular men fit the douchebag stereotype that they develop that association. On top of that, in some cases they really are grossed out by too much muscle. My ex was legit grossed out by my traps, especially when they were pumped or flexed. Never complained about the development in the arms, though 😂

@user-qc1uo8fg6h

Ай бұрын

@@matthewjonas8952 I had a friend that started at gym before every1, when i met him he was kinda nice but he started to develop even more and nowadays i cannot even talk to him, he is the most narcissist shit u would ever see. And yh, he isnt that strong tho cuz i have been going to the gym for 1 year (he have been going for 2 years already) and im almost at his strenght (except for chest). And damn, he used to talk with every girl like they were hoes. His ego is still on the moon...

Work on your body and health for YOU, not women, and ironically women will be drawn to your self-loving chadiness

@nathantupe9018

Ай бұрын

People admire drive right

@senzatieee

Ай бұрын

No, just no. No one cares about your "self-love"

@rodarollada

Ай бұрын

It’s not “ironically”. It’s just the law of the jungle. We still live in the jungle. And this is awesome.

@UncommonSense

Ай бұрын

@@senzatieee spoken like a self-hating idiot

@Zaxstar007

Ай бұрын

@@senzatieee ur sad man

So what I gathered is that women unanimously like built muscular guys,however, if the women is insecure she'll pick a less muscular man.

@emmang2010

Ай бұрын

yes that's exactly what I got from this. I even found the correlation between quite muscular men and essentially flight risk seemingly off but.

@sunburn74

Ай бұрын

Seems to be the general point. Women say one thing, but do another it appears when it comes to muscularity.

@emmang2010

Ай бұрын

@ sunburn74 yeah they can answer whatever they want for these studies.

@davorzdralo8000

Ай бұрын

​@@sunburn74that's exactly why questionnaires shouldn't be called "studies".

@pillemcphilsen8529

Ай бұрын

Also 0% liked the black guy.

A "moderate" level of muscularity, and the models were the upper end of natural physiques. So basically "as much muscle as you can get without using gear" Also the rating makes no sense. On the womens rating system they gave the same physique the 1st and 5th place, while giving an enhanced physique 3rd place. Its literally all over the place and random.

@methodofinstruction1368

Ай бұрын

If we looked at the studies, they may be highly flawed in terms of control measure and sampling bias.

@Aurora-bv1ys

Ай бұрын

​@@methodofinstruction1368what does that mean?

@EPC-ue2ci

Ай бұрын

They are flawed bc theyre based on a womans opinion which is not only fleeting, but inherently dishonest as they cannot help but answer in the most immediately advantageous way possible even though there is no advantage to any answer given to a surveyor.

@rotm4447

Ай бұрын

I wouldn't be so quick to say natural, wahlberg wasn't natural, michael b jordan isn't natural. Its literally the same thing as every other aspect of men's attractiveness, as much effort as possible, as good as possible, while also having just enough plausible deniability to look like you did nothing at all.

@trinidadrodriquez876

29 күн бұрын

In my experience with women that are super sexual or freaks. They rather have a slim skinny gout or average weight. Or a few extra pounds. With a large penis. Than a muscular six pack guy with average or small penis. They also view height and face. Maybe more than muscular body.

Pay attention to their actions (rather than their words)

At 50 I added about 20 pounds of muscle. I got a lot more attention from women. I'm sure some of it was improved confidence. I was already in decent shape but having noticeable muscle mass seemed to help a lot.

The average woman doesn't find muscular guys attractive, but then the average woman isn't attractive. If being in shape serves the dual purpose of both attracting attractive women and repelling ugly women, then that's even more reason to be in shape.

As neat as this is I build muscle for myself. I am natural but I am on the larger side, and I don't plan on stepping off the gas until I am at my genetic peak. I would rather be with a woman who likes me the way i like to present myself.

@mvo9975

Ай бұрын

Why have men started to engage in "i wear makeup for myself lol"-tier delusions ? You wouldn't give a fuck about your shoulder striations or lack lack thereof if you were on an island. Nothing wrong with saying "I wanna be muscular because gym feels good and I become attractive" instead of womanisms

@repentandfollowjesuschrist6170

Ай бұрын

Larger side? So you fat? Ahh well who cares. 1 Corinthians 6:9-11 Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind, Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God. Matthew 4:17From that time Jesus began to preach, and to say, Repent: for the kingdom of heaven is at hand.

@PaulElmont-fd1xc

Ай бұрын

👏💪

@rodarollada

Ай бұрын

One muscle mommy for this man.

@caiofernando

16 күн бұрын

Don't worry, you won't ever be icking girls out with your muscles as a natural.

What women say and what they respond to are two different things. It doesnt matter what the studies say, the reality in the dating pool is very different.

@XAUCADTrader

Ай бұрын

You mean they never liked the nice guy?

@naughtiousmaximus7853

6 күн бұрын

@@XAUCADTrader lmao, they like him for stability when crows feet hit their face

@user-lt1jd1ye3v

6 сағат бұрын

You’re so whiney and will make up excuses for everything. As a woman, the Ryan gosling physique is perfect. He’s ripped and in shape, but with an approachable smile and seems happy with himself. Perfection. Also leanness on men is great so long as diet is good fitness etc so really women are very generous as long as there is a good personality. I personally am not into the dad bod but I also keep myself in shape so I understand if my man is a little out of shape, but too much out of shapeness I wouldn’t find attractive. I like a man who keeps himself in shape but he doesn’t have to look perfect

Don’t pay attention to what women SAY. Pay attention to women’s BEHAVIOR. If you want to know which male body type is most attractive, control for height, wealth, and fame (ie only compare men of comparable height, wealth, and fame to one another with body type being the only relevant difference), and then once you have a large enough sample size, pay attention to which body type ends up hooking up with/dating/marrying the most attractive women. Spoiler alert: The answer is the body type that Chris Evans has as Captain America (particularly the scene in which he rips a piece of wood apart with his bare hands).

@AlekNovy

28 күн бұрын

To be fair, in this case it's not that the women lie, it's that these studies asked the wrong question. In better (more precise) studies they ask "how muscular for a long-term mate" and separately "how muscular for hookup", and then the women readily admit they want more muscle in the casual context. It's just that when the qualifier isn't added, women assume you're asking them about a long-term safe provider. They're not lying, the question is simply not precise.

@rickymcdonald2669

27 күн бұрын

And in college who got all the girls? Athletes. So what do they like?

@user-hn9qw7ou8d

27 күн бұрын

@@rickymcdonald2669 Specific sports. We all know the golf team wasn’t slaying like the basketball players and the skill-position football players were.

@darkdon01

19 күн бұрын

A skillfull analyses of this conundrum….and the “Chris Evans as Captain America” analogy at the end is PURE GOLD! Like most conclude in the comments: a) most women don’t have a fricking clue what they want and are all over the place making decisions based on the “tha feels” b) make muscles,make bank and put a dent in the Universe for the simple fact of being a MAN of use and substance…..not to please or placate women. You are better of impressing other men of achievement in your circle than the fools errand of trying to please the ever changing whims of females. If you happen to find one with a good head on her shoulders, who takes care of her mental and physical health with the same passion and drive as you bring to the table……vet and wife her up pronto. The rest? Let their hypergamy reveal their true colors…..and hire or fire accordingly. Choose wisely gents….you got one life to live👍🏾💪🏾

@cjhoward82

18 күн бұрын

Exactly, Chris Evans/ Hemsworth, or Brad Pitt would have drastically changed this study.

The flaw in asking women what they want is asking women what they want.

@user-lt1jd1ye3v

6 сағат бұрын

I want the ryan gosling pic

Women will say they prefer a dadbod whilst using Jason Mamoa as an example.

Commenting before I even watch: Why would I listen to what women say?

@rodarollada

Ай бұрын

Based.

@cniht

Ай бұрын

If you watch you'll find out they lied in the survey about who they are 'attracted' to because they still bang the muscular guys.

@XAUCADTrader

Ай бұрын

@@rodarollada Menno did qualify the fact that muscular men have more sex lol. I don't know how it became a universal that what they say and what they do are completely different things. But he did mention the dual-mating strategy or whatever that is called, I call it "alpha f**ks, beta bucks."

@MealTeam6

Ай бұрын

Correct.

@christianschwalbach7561

Ай бұрын

Because listening is key to successful relationship

Never skip booty day!

@Aurora-bv1ys

Ай бұрын

GYAAAAAAAAAAAAAT

@SomeKidFromBritain

Ай бұрын

Bit fruity

@britneybij3997

Ай бұрын

🍑 literally ​@@SomeKidFromBritain

@SomeKidFromBritain

Ай бұрын

@@britneybij3997 I like your pfp :3

@ferreira991

Ай бұрын

♂️the right day♂️

Great video! Much better than I had expected. I particularly like how much you go into detail

Great video! Your flow of information was perfect! Thank you!

there could be also a different explanation: ppl like to date ppl who are similar to each other. if you ask somebody for the ideal (sex) partner it could be, that ppl think of somebody they like -> somebody similar to them. in the real world ppl react strongly to visual stimuli and if they see a fit person, they react stronger then imagined.

What is always overlooked in these studies is the complete disconnect between their ‘visual’ preference vs the dominance effect that comes with being the biggest guy in the room. Women are attracted to status to a vastly greater degree than men and the quickest and easiest way to signal status is through physical prowess. Eg, height, muscle mass.

@theguy4615

Ай бұрын

No, status to a woman is money, social connections, family, etc.

@skylineuk1485

Ай бұрын

That’s not how it works. Study the psychology of relationships and what women actually wants and you see this has little bearing for most - but there are some who are massively turned on by it. Jacked gets you laid a lot as only 1 in 100 guys may be truly jacked but 1 in 10 women love that so you have a high ratio chasing you down.

@karter969

Ай бұрын

@@theguy4615 that’s a very narrow definition of the word. In a Darwinistic sense it’s anything that signals superiority over sexual competitors, whether that be a nice car, or a peacocks plumage. And if you find any legitimacy in evolutionary psychology you’ll agree that the most primal way of signalling this is by appearing like you can physically dominate fellow competitors. Women will say what they think they ‘prefer’ then do the exact opposite. Watch what they do, don’t listen to what they say.

@theguy4615

Ай бұрын

@@karter969 for attraction, sure. But the urge for financial security and high social status overrides that in today's world. Women never date down, always up.

What women say, and what women actually mean are completely different things. This is due to fear of social judgement, or to straight up manipulate, so don't take too seriously what you hear from the gals.

Menno just want to say LOVE the intro music, never change it please!

I've run a few surveys on this too, asking thousands of women about photos and illustrations. I got the same results as you mentioned, just without any real emphasis from women on glutes.

@DJcs187

Ай бұрын

It's not that there's an emphasis from women on glutes, but rather that men view them as unimportant compared to other muscle groups, which means they are as unimportant to women as they are to men.

@BonytoBeastly

Ай бұрын

@@DJcs187 Ah, maybe I misunderstood Menno. Yes, what I was finding was that glutes are about as unimportant to women as they are to men. Everyone cares a little bit, but most people care much more about the upper body. As long as they legs/glutes don't look strangely small or unathletic, it doesn't really seem to matter.

@kcirtapelyk6060

27 күн бұрын

Really? Who doesn’t like a nice, round ass?

Hi Menno, two further studies you could have included: Crossley et al. (2012), doi: 10.1371/journal.pone.0050601 and Lei and Perrett (2020), doi: 10.1111/bjop.12451 In both studies, women's ideal male body had a (normalized) FFMI of ~21-22 (depending on one's height). For Crossley et al. (2012), it was BMI 24.5 with a BF% of 10-12%. For Lei and Perrett (2020), it was BMI 26 with BF% of 15%.

@christinaferguson9418

Ай бұрын

yaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaap

@kenlieberman4215

Ай бұрын

@@christinaferguson9418 "FFMI" = Fat Free body Mass Index; Body Mass index is a common measure pf height vs weight. Interestingly a BMI of over 25 is traditionally considered overweight, but with a body fat of 12-5%, these individuals would have to be fairly muscular. Smooth by gym standards. But more generally women prefer more muscular guys for flings, and less muscular guys for relationships. The reason is simple, too much time, effort and money going into the gym and not her. There are always exceptions, but most women want to be the focus of the relationship.

Love the content and the delivery, Menno. Thanks!

I just randomly discovered your video so I am not part of your regular audience but I like how you still gave the disclaimer. Because you know there is gonna be that one kid that takes it too far

Never go by what women say, Go by what they do. They will say one thing but do the other.

can we please get a "This is the ultimate women’s physique according to men" video

@theBenStrothmann

Ай бұрын

It would be about 10 seconds long. "So, it appears that men are attracted to exactly the kind of physique they say they are attracted to, and everyone expected them to be attracted to."

@agnidas5816

29 күн бұрын

@@theBenStrothmann more like "how low will men go if the social opportunity presents itself"

@DTFauxClassic

17 күн бұрын

​@@agnidas5816Exactly. A lot of dudes love to talk a big game when it's all hypothetical, but far too many arent gonna say no if their less ideal preference approached them this very second.

Super powerful video. Thank you for sharing!

Brilliant Menno, clear deep knowledge & research based information, well done!

The thing with women is that they evaluate more than just looks when commenting on looks. That's why in these type of discussions, the man's personality always comes into play. Women anticipate more muscular guys to be more selfish. However... if they know the guy isn't selfish, then the muscular look will mean more. Just look at Dwayne Johnson to see how women react when a muscular guy is also known as a good guy. With that said, the extreme body builder look does go too far. Another thing to consider is how well do women rate men wearing clothes. Clothes will even out build types, with less muscular builds giving fewer indications of fitness. More muscular builds on the other hand will still give that signal of fitness women want even when covered up, so would likely skew results to more muscular when clothed men are considered.

@kcirtapelyk6060

27 күн бұрын

It’s been coming out lately that Dwayne Johnson is not such a good guy after all.

What a shocker, women lying about not liking muscular guys, who could've seen that coming

Keep up the great content Menno! That was definitely an interesting learn.

Great video Menno, thank you!

I will say that I’ve heard over and over that women find the “gear look” disgusting

@fender1000100

Ай бұрын

It looks fake that's why. See women know what's natural. And they are always thinking about genetics for their children.. I experimented in my prime. From 10% BF to 18%. 15% got me the most attention and compliments from women. A flat stomach with some definition. Broad shoulders. Good arms and pecs are what they like.. The word is athletic. Or the beach body.

@tiinan375

Ай бұрын

Men also find that disgusting if they’re not socialised by the fitness industry to find it impressive

@futatsushiri

28 күн бұрын

I know a few men at my gym who are roided up to the eyeballs, they do well with women. The thing is, you are right, most do find it hideous. According to these men though, 99.9% of women find them unattractive, but only 0.01% of men are in that category. So it's a numbers game and they do well! The 0.1% of women that do like that will go after it, and so that 0.01% of men do completely fine.

@redditor7548

10 сағат бұрын

Only mass monster look, tons of gym bros on gear that have a more balanced physique like Arnold that absolute slay

@fender1000100

10 сағат бұрын

@@redditor7548 They slay on gear? They will be lucky if they can get it up.

Basically, when your gym bro says you’re looking small and weak, that’s probably the female ideal.

Great stuff Menno, love content like this!

Not sure averages are of much use. Here in America, the average adult woman is like 170pounds with a bmi of about 30. Nearly 70% of the population is overweight or obese. Of course they aren’t attracted to very fit physiques. Also don’t put much stock in self reported data. People often aren’t honest, and/or lack self awareness.

I thought women like men built like a bear you find in the woods

@XAUCADTrader

Ай бұрын

Kyriakos Grizzly? Even men want that!

03:30: searches Bret Contreras immediately.

@chrisg477

Ай бұрын

Everyone can stop commentating; this guy wins KZread Comment section for today. I needed that laugh, thank-you

@DrTopLiftDPT

Ай бұрын

if only he promoted lunges over inferior hip thrusts

@rostamostmann9657

Ай бұрын

​@@chrisg477 Cheers

Surprisingly sensible report, well done! 👍

There is a difference between what women say they want and what their actions say they want.

We are so back!

best takedown of the subject I heard so far

@hamm0155

Ай бұрын

Breakdown?

@Chiburi

22 күн бұрын

It was very, very basic and not very insightful…

“According to women” instantly renders the prior details completely re%^de+

I work so I am proud of myself. I wanna reach a level that feels good to look at and gives me confidence.

The most important muscle groups to sexuality attractive women are the Visa and Master Card muscles.

i have been hurt more than once , I want no women . i only want muscles and take care of my parents , and become successful in life

fun video! 😁 thank you MH

Thank you for your review :)

This study is so flawed. First of all, the photos used are way too different from each other to be taken seriously in any sort of scientific basis. As a scientist myself, and an expert on these type of studies that's the first thing that should have got this study absolutely tanked. Photos that have extremely good lighting perfect angles, angles, and things of that nature skew the results and make it look like certain physics are significantly better than others. Case in point the Ryan Gosling body that only got 10% is one that most women have seen as significantly attractive every time I've ever heard that mention it for that movie. However, because it was taken directly on with really no good Lighting in a movie it doesn't have the same type of results that the physique number one does which is clearly a model photo black and white done professionally and probably edited as well after the fact because no one looks like that naturally. Photos of I believe Jason Momoa at the Beach where he has his shirt off and some of the other photos aren't even direct shots of the body, so how can they really get a good representation of what that looked like so they voted it low simply because the photo was bad, the angle is bad, and like I said there was terrible lighting for the photo so you're obviously you're going to look bigger. I know you consider yourself a scientist, so I'm somewhat disappointed that you didn't even bring this up and it's somewhat calls into question your authenticity as a scientist to do a study like this.

How much does stated vs revealed preferences come into play? The disconnect between women stating their preferences and what is observed in sexual behavior is probably partially explained by dating strategy, but also I would guess by people lying to themselves (which everyone does, not just women.) If dating strategy explained it then you would expect the fittest men to have lower marriage rates than modestly fit men who are rated higher, Ibwould be curious to see a study on that.

I liked and subscribed. Thanks 😊

I'm really curious what the estimated BF% is on the highest two physiques, as well as the body weight at some common heights. I can't tell it by eyeballing it, and am too dysmorphic to have any idea how close I am to that.

I think your 'study' with women just ranked the pictures by image quality. Except the body builder :D

@emmang2010

Ай бұрын

Agreed. Like the body builder was he only one posing and in trunks. Like that's not fair.

@sunburn74

Ай бұрын

@@emmang2010 Plus he showed faces which is bad. You need to cutoff the faces and just show the body.

@joshy2joshy

Ай бұрын

So many problems with the study, particularly the fact that each individual in the photo is different, it shows their face also, image quality is different, poses are different, skin tones are different, some images don't even have colour! There's just way too many other independent variables that haven't been accounted for. Terrible study.

@emmang2010

Ай бұрын

@@joshy2joshy Agreed. It's more like a questionnaire than a study.

@benhallo1553

Ай бұрын

Yeah that was nonsense

at 2:23 5% of men thought that Leonardo Dicaprio's dad bod was the ideal physique? Ranked above Adam Levine (3%) and Ryan Gosling(%2)? I think it would have been more objective to have them rank the top 3.

@wotanjugend974

Ай бұрын

The people answering that are coping hard

@glutenenjoyer__

Ай бұрын

Probably because they know he's got a third leg.

The day I stopped caring what anyone else thought of how I looked, was the beginning of my pursuit of happiness. Or at least contentedness. No longer did I read/watch info on what kind of hair styles women liked, what kind of facial hair women liked, etc. Today, I look how I want to look, cut my own hair whenever I feel like it, have had a beard for over a decade and could care less what anyone, including women, think of it. Remember the old saying: If you're not happy single, you won't be happy paired. Happiness comes from cats, not relationships.

Really well done video; makes good points and takes in valid variations on perspectives. I do think that we can question how honestly people answer questions on preference, but the photos are going to work better. They probably should have been rank-choice, if they weren't, rather than how often someone was chosen first. The photo that came in second or third 100% of the time, but never first, is compelling. As for the amount of action one male body type got more than another, that has a lot to do with what the guy wants. There are some fit athletic men I know who want a very traditional (monogamous) lifestyle... at least while they're young. I think there's a separate argument for just the pure aesthetic. Being super cut for competition just doesn't look good on men or women. The competition values it because it's harder than being moderately lean and it's more easily judged. I suspect if the photos were made available, both women and men would say Arnold in competition mode didn't look as good as Arnold between competitions or starting into his film career.

Do ideal women's physique next.

@peterpan408

Ай бұрын

And the %Woman that have that physique 🤣 Have the right frame/genetics = 10% (Of them) Not fat, old etc = 10% (1%) (Of them) Actually lifts/runs, bikes, swims etc = 10%(0.1%) (Of them) of reasonable disposition and intent = 10%(0.01%) Unicorn 🤡🤡🤡

@menno.henselmans

Ай бұрын

Will do (not next video but probably the one after that).

@BWater-yq3jx

Ай бұрын

Look at Playboy models since its inception - the ideal has barely changed. From Marilyn Monroe to now - hourglass figure; nice curves, trim but not shredded. With a few trend aberrations, this has been pretty consistent for 70 years.

@stevenscott2136

Ай бұрын

For more fun, ask women what they think is an attractive woman, then ask them what they WANT to look like. I remember a girl who was killing herself trying to be 110 pounds, but when I asked her who in the cafeteria she'd trade bodies with, she picked a curvy, athletic girl who was 135. (I know, because I asked the other girl her weight.)

@zerrodefex

28 күн бұрын

@@stevenscott2136 most women seem to have no clue what a healthy female bodyweight is actually supposed to be, especially for an athletic woman.

One key point is they if you only ask atractive woman, they will pick fitter more muscular guys. Fat and unatractive woman (which option isnt important because you dont want to attract them) are altering the study by unconsciously voting more fatter thus more attainable men for them. You never see a fit hot chick saying she preferes a dad bod (at least in no judgmental enviroment, becasue virtue signaling also play a big role)

As a skinny kid until age 19, competitive bodybuilder from 21-28, and now in my 30s doing mostly calisthenics and just cardio, I've had many widely varying physiques in my lifetime. I've been as big as 220lbs (16% bodyfat) to as small/lean as 160lbs (5% bodyfat). I recently went to a bodpod and got my body fat tested and am currently 190lbs, 10% body fat, and 5'11". I can say that women actually went most crazy for my leanest physique. When I was small but ripped to pieces, women would constantly touch me, their jaws would literally drop when I took my shirt off, and two women even bumped into each other rubber necking when I was at the beach and they both simultaneously walked by me. During the two year timeframe when I was consistently at/near 5% body fat, I also slept with 28 women. Regardless of what women say when they are sober, I've consistently experienced that there is definitely a correlation btwn lean muscle and wet pu$$y. The lower the body fat, the wetter the pu$$y. Of course, the breaking point does seem to be around 5-7% body fat. Leaner than that and women find it unattractive; probably b/c men get what bodybuilders call "death face." Even though muscles are important, low body fat is more important than muscles. Medium size ripped guy versus big muscular powerlifter physique is always going to win. That being said, money, height, and D size win over muscles every day of the week. Even a man with a dad bod will win over a muscular lean guy if the dad bod has great style, confidence, full head of hair, and a square jawline.

@tupums

10 күн бұрын

How can dad bod have square jaw? Whats your definition of dad bod -bf %? One night stand mentality does correlate with dark triad traits also thatswhy women tend not to seek potential partners among jacked individuals who will not stick around. They are red flags and only women who are interested using you for sex will respond to such call. You explained standpoint of what men sees that women like more then actually what women like from hedonisitc indulgence standpoint.

very good video.

Whichever one is attractive but doesn't make them too insecure is what they find most attractive

@supercal333

Ай бұрын

That's not attraction then. It's mental gymnastics and fear that suppresses natural attraction.

In my experience women don't mind a higher body fat level at all, as long as it is accompanied by a good amount of muscle. The "protector look" of 20-25% bf and big arms, back, V-taper due to the size of the back even though the waist is not tiny has got me more women than any other state I have been in (lean/very lean and somewhat muscular).

Difference in glutes importance may also be because men severely underestimate that, relative to everything else.

Good video, informative. :)

Menno, at 1:45. The bodybuilder was not last, it was also no3. Arnold was a bodybuilder

Women rate those body's with their insecurities and lifestyle in mind. Just pure physical attractiveness is a different thing.

Well done 👍

I would love to see that meta-analysed with regards to BMI as well as time spent for fitness. Also vice versa (what women men prefer). There was this really interesting finding in the starvation experiment by Ancel Keys, in which the starved people perceived "normal" people as too fat.

Nowadays women apparently prefer a bear. 😂

Studying women is useless because it depends on how they feel at the moment.

Interesting video

I am 61 this year I work out at my home gym and look bloody good for my age. I work out for myself, fitness and mental well being. I could care less what women want or think.

Well that makes sense; a body developed with steroid use is not natural, therefore somewhat comparable to women who use fake 'enhancements' such as breast implants. Most men aren't attracted to that, along with lip-fillers, botox, etc.

Is their a study that breaks down women’s preferences based on the woman’s physical condition? I’m trying to attract fit women, not all women. No shame ladies, we all have preferences. And all that really matters is how you feel about yourself. Love yourself first

How's the physique at the bottom there for the men's top 9? It looks similar to number 4, but with better delts.

Good content.

If Ryan Gosling’s type was so low, then it’s over. That’s my goal body

@MegaLaban12345

Ай бұрын

Get after it! Do you dawg

@yvyneath

Ай бұрын

Same😢

@methodofinstruction1368

Ай бұрын

The picture of Ryan used there was not his most lean. That’s where these studies need to be taken with a grain of salt. We don’t know if the women were also being shown the men’s faces, in which case, the results may be completely negligible for all we know.

@rotm4447

Ай бұрын

@@methodofinstruction1368 ​That doesn't make sense. Adam Levine face mogs the mountain into oblivion. What's dumb is marky mark and the 10% guy are practically the same body, also two Olympia winners widely apart.

@methodofinstruction1368

Ай бұрын

The pictures used in this video are likely not the ones used in the actual studies, and if the were, the data would be considered completely ecologically relevant invalid. This is because the attractiveness of a man’s face is likely and independent variable aside from a man’s physique. The studies likely used pictures that didn’t include a man’s face. Simply put, these studies were only looking a body physiques ‘independent’ of what a man’s face look like. If you have a handsome face, wealthy, charming personality, etc, it may be that overall body physique plays a very minor role in whether a woman chooses to engage in sexual relations.

I see the fight club body still rules the game .Time for low carb 😎

@Guus115

Ай бұрын

Always will

Thank you for providing a more science-based explanation as to why so many women prefer more Dad-bod than body builder. This is most interesting for those guys who are lifting for the purpose of finding more girls. The question now is what kind of girls work out in your gym?

Hey Menno , very good video . I can do better editing in your videos which can help you to get more engagement in your videos . Pls lmk what do you think ?