This is the exact type of review I've been looking for. The other reviewers basically put it in their hands and said, "feels nice".

@VKsChannel

2 жыл бұрын

EXACTLY hahaha this is the main reason I wanted to do reviews in this channel

@strlke

2 жыл бұрын

Pov: controller breaks in 2 weeks Reviewer: Comfortable

As someone who flies racing drones and having been using hall effect gimbals (Sticks) on drone radios (controllers effectively) for some years now I can say the controller industry has been sleeping on this for far too long. Hall effect sticks should have been the standard for years now. They are so much better, less prone to wear and drift. This really does need to become the standard. It's just too bad about the back ergonomics.

@Amiculi

2 жыл бұрын

I imagine one worry is kids getting magnetic toys around them and possibly screwing up the permanent magnets inside. But I'm sure the PRIMARY worry is that if controllers last longer, people will buy fewer of them. The current controllers seem to be almost perfectly tuned to fail at a rate people consider annoying but reasonable to buy another.

@MxJavice

2 жыл бұрын

@@Amiculi the magnets in my radios are extremely well shielded. Somehow I doubt that is an issue. Actually the radios are usually built for easily replacing and fixing them. Heck I swapped out the original sticks on my radio because I wanted less stick movement so I bought ones with less throw. And the new sticks were from the original manufacturer. Not an easy to come by feature these days. Being able to buy upgrade parts to install yourself... On your second statement I do pretty much agree as they know how to solve the issue. They just won't because profit.

@Ammothief41

2 жыл бұрын

PS3 controllers also use magnetic sensing. They've just been cutting costs lately I guess.

@arcticowl1091

2 жыл бұрын

The reason they are not the standard is because they last TOO long. Companies don't get this fucking rich if their products mever break and forcing you to buy a new one that will break just as fast. It's intentional.

@oblivitv1337

2 жыл бұрын

The reason they won’t use them in gaming (mass production wise) is that magnets fracture easily and that changes their polarity. In my opinion gaming controllers need to be designed to take the worst of impacts.

The thing I love about the button switches is that it removes the failure point of the membrane acting as a spring. And with it being modular, a single button's membrane being dodgy doesn't mean you have to replace it all

i like how you actually test stuff that matters. most reviewers only talk about how the controllers look and feel. they never go deep into the performance and functionality. like "oh, the analog stick moves. so i guess it works great! yay!"

@VKsChannel

2 жыл бұрын

I do that in all my reviews, that is my main goal in this channel

Omg it's the guy that made the joycon drift fix. You are back in my recommended. You have a super recognizable KZread

THIS is how you review a controller!! Especially one with new tech that's not seen in most other controllers. I love that you went through the trouble of showing off the control stick accuracy and all the different controller functions with the on-screen input viewer.

23:30 thank you for showing this mod. Bought this few days ago and I found the button uncomfortable. Because it needs more effort to press the button and sometimes when the button bounce back it gives a feeling of it's stuck. Removing the tactile feeling actually make it more enjoyable and silent too as you said it making it linear. Thanks so much

Best review of this controller I’ve seen by far. Good job.

Thank you for this exhaustive review, it's the only one that answers all my questions about this controller, especially the shape of the grips. Some controller designs hurt my wrist due to small changes from the Xbox controller these all imitate. The detailed closeups of this video showed me exactly what I needed to see.

First time watching a video on this channel, I'm impressed with how thorough you are. Subscribed.

I love these teardown reviews! Thank you for making this! 👍

Thanks for this review it's so cool ! So much details ! Now I really understand the true potential of these switches !

finally! Great video, thanks for the look at these. Much better than the others I've watched. Stick drift never had to happen, companies have been cheaping out since the 360-era, while at the same time charging us more for controllers.

Was looking for a teardown. Excellent thorough review.

Thanks for all the time you took to make the review. Great job on the presentation also.

this is the most detailed review i've seen, keep it up !! 👌

one of these with 2 back buttons and they'll have me hook, line, and sinker. thank you for reviewing this controller and analyzing it in such depth. i've got my eye on these guys now.

@ArtemisKitty

2 жыл бұрын

Exactly what I'm waiting for - add back paddles and I'm sold. Until I got them, I never thought it'd be a make-or-break decision factor, but... Yeah. Hopefully we see a "pro" revision with them. 😆

You deserve more subscribers. I saw this controller in a Facebook page and been looking for good reviews. But not info on how the gyro or sticks works. The other reviewers are just like "the controller feels nice and works..." like really? First time I feel it was worth to spend 26min in a good informative video. Just subbed.

This is a great review. The only thing it seems to be missing are latency tests, which would make it the most comprehensive controller review out there.

@lvcsslacker

Жыл бұрын

the controller's latency... not great.

@ivrgn1720

11 ай бұрын

They create a 2.4ghz dongle for this issue, and now the latency is great.

@OraOraOra

10 ай бұрын

@@ivrgn1720 This is awsome! I heard this controller can use 2.4ghz and bluetooth. Whats the name of the dongle? I just found the bluetooth dongle

excellent review and comparison of the different controls. I am really impressed. great video. blessings and greetings from Mexico City

Great video. New sub here. Great controller, as I've only had it 24 hours, this review proved to me why I love it already. 👍

Amazing review bro. Controller is on the way as I write this. Thanks for the tips can’t wait

this is what you call a review! awesome job! meanwhile other content creators: feels nice in my hands, but I don't like the paint. lol.

ez subscription! best game controller in youtube period! I hope flydigi also implement magnetic sensor to their controllers

I'm feeling tempted to buy one of these, I do not play long enough for the bump issue to become a problem for me and the feautures it has makes it a durable product.

The best review i have seen I think you deserve a sub

I really like this kind of in deep analysis/reviews. Ty very much for your time and effort. I have to add that Gulikit sells a 2.4G/Bluetooth dongle which is compatible with this controller in 2.4G mode (not proved my self, but that's what they say).

Thank you, so that's what they meant by easily changing the face buttons. That's awesome.

The face button switches can be made linear without damage by rotating the stem 90 degrees. This seems to be intended, there are recesses in the top and bottom housing to accommodate the tactile "bump".

@mipad4491

Жыл бұрын

True

Thank you for this video! It looks like I might disable the tactile functionality in the face buttons when I get this thing.

awesome review dude!

Wow this is a great review, YT recommended this to me, considering this is the same price as other controllers here this is the next controller I purchase.

@VKsChannel

2 жыл бұрын

all of my reviews are like this, I dig into the product and show every detail I can inside and outside, Check the Apex 2, it is an amazing controller

Your awesome bro. Thank you for this review

We badly need this for PS5. I already went through 2 controllers in like 8 months of having the console. Every 250 hours the joystick is done

@neoxarxiz

2 жыл бұрын

That's why I ordered over 100 joystick resistors... as a small stock😅

@sirlaughalot5

2 жыл бұрын

I had the same experience, but if you're inclined to take it apart and clean everything a bit with rubbing alcohol, it will be back in perfect shape in no time. My OG controller has a solid year of use with 1000+ hours and is still working great. Not ideal, but it'll save you $70

@meurumtrain4747

2 жыл бұрын

@@sirlaughalot5 the rubbing alcohol is only a temp fix and you’ll need to constantly do it.

@sirlaughalot5

2 жыл бұрын

@@meurumtrain4747 I mean I've gotten 500+ hours since the last alcohol cleaning and still not having issues. Worth the effort in my opinion

@meurumtrain4747

2 жыл бұрын

@@sirlaughalot5 I’ve done that on my controllers and it helps greatly. Gosh you never do realize just how bad your shot is even with the slightest drift

Hi great vid subbed and liked this controller looks great

I'm still regularly using my now ancient Microsoft Sidewinder Force Feedback 2, and thanks to the magnetic sensors and force feedback, it still responds like new. No drift after years and years of use, thousands upon thousands of hours game time, so if they used something similar to that on this controller? That's amazing. It will almost outlast the plastic housing of the controller around it, lol. Awesome to see, thanks for the info!

@VKsChannel

2 жыл бұрын

This one is jurassic 🤣

@ArtemisKitty

2 жыл бұрын

@@VKsChannel Yeah, I couldn't BELIEVE it when I found it years ago in a thrift store for 25 as-is. I took it home expecting to reuse the parts, plugged it in, and voila! It worked like new! Almost a decade now of my using it, and no noticeable wear other than shiny finger outlines of where I grip it. It's awesome looking back at when companies were building stuff to last forever, instead of planned obsolescence on everything, and it's refreshing seeing companies start to look into breaking away from this and go back to the "old" ways on that. The SteamDeck is another great example, making every part replaceable by and available to end-users, but this company is taking it even further by going back to the type of stuff we only find in rare old tech like that joystick, and using more expensive parts, so their product will last. Building up a name on that, rather than relying on cheap low-end profits. It's great for us as gamers, for sure! Edit: typo fixes

Wow, great video. Subscribed.

Amazing review, subbed

Great review!

really thorough review

You know what is funny: Companies that literally earn billions can't switch to this magnetic thumb sticks while GuliKit easily did it.

@biggib5444

2 жыл бұрын

Well, the more durable the controller, then the less their income from selling the controller 😂

@abdulhkeem.alhadhrami

2 жыл бұрын

@@biggib5444 yeah greed drives them not the care for customers!

@MurphyTheOldMan

2 ай бұрын

I won't blame the greedy corporations though, I will blame those dumb customers who are ready to pay whatever they ask for their trash. And those dumbos will always say, everything is fine even if the product is trash

It has been the video that gives more technical information and a more general test with several controls. Many speak without having tried all the possibilities of the control, do not read the instructions. This video made me decide to buy it :D

@VKsChannel

Жыл бұрын

and subscribe to the channel please =D

Wow great work 👌🏻

Seems nearly perfect BUUUUT the back ergonomics are a dealbreaker for me. I never realized how much having the battery compartment in Xbox type controllers affected the ergonomics. I'd say to really make this the perfect controller, add some rear remappable paddles and we've got ourselves a real winner. Guess I'll have to wait for the King Kong 3's lol.

@scarecrow5848

2 жыл бұрын

Another thing though, he compared the switches to *browns without the clicking noise* and yet blues are the ones that are clicky?? So wouldn’t they feel like silent blue’s? Cuz browns are also automatically as loud as red’s.

@scarecrow5848

2 жыл бұрын

I’m just gonna stick to my normal controller. :D

@jeremybrown9611

2 жыл бұрын

That's a non issue for me and I think many others too, I can deal with that over drifting any day. Where I live the previous gen Xbox controllers are $96 and the ones for the Series consoles are $120. Can't afford to rage or constantly buy a new controller

@scarecrow5848

2 жыл бұрын

@Greyson I know this. I’m saying I’m the video he said ‘browns without the clicking noise’. Blues are the ones with the clicking noise. Browns just feel like clicky’s. If they’re browns of course they’re not gonna have a clicking noise.

@scarecrow5848

2 жыл бұрын

@Greyson oh its fine! ^_^

this was a great review.

Fantastic Review

23:03 thank you soooooo so much for this, mine came with a squeaky A button + it often got stuck , just putting the plastic thing away a little made it go back to normal

The best controller review I've seen yet, especially for this controller. Gonna get one of these babies soon.

@VKsChannel

Жыл бұрын

Check my review of the apex 2

@aweigh1010

Жыл бұрын

@@VKsChannel Will do. Love the top buttons Razer adds, so it's good that another company has finally released a controller with additional top buttons too! Way better than back buttons.

Just bought one and just waiting for it to be shipped! I got the standard KingKong 2 version. I just don't need the pro version features. I still get the magnetic analog stick and triggers and the mechanical face buttons which is what I really need. Got it cheaper too on a flash sale for under $25! I have went through a bunch of controllers and the stick always go bad. Here's hoping the GuliKit is going to be different and analog stick won't go bad in the long run.

games often use small bits of time dilation (slowing or quickening the ingame time and thus the animation timing) on impacts for better feedback. If the macro doesn't account for that the timing will be off

Thanks for the review, I've been looking for a controller that won't get the stick drift and since controllers are so expensive anymore I just don't want to go out and buy any controller anymore. I use a DS4 for my PC right now and can tell I'm getting stick drift in the right analog. So, I'm definitely going to get this eventually.

That Saitake controller is more suitable for PC Dinput(Direct input) style games where the actual X/Y layout is a square instead of a circle, and that range is read by those pre-xinput computer games. My old controllers have square holes where the thumbsticks move. This is how it has was in the old MSDOS joystick days too. Speaking of which, circle to square translation/mapping would be useful on those older PC games. edit: Just to add a bit more information for example, if you've ever played older pre-xinput era GTA games, e.g. GTA San Andreas on PC, you will notice that if you try to use a controller with circular holes/circular movement pattern you will notice that if you hop in a car and you try to move the thumbstick to each corner, you cannot turn the wheels on the car all the way, nor the camera all the way. Yes you can just keep the thumbstick left/right on a X-axis plane horizontally to steer the car fully, but in this game the thumbstick is also very important in controlling the forward/backward tilt of the car moving via moving the thumbstick up/down. Furthermore you any little moving out of the horizontal movement you lose full steering, you ahve to be very precise to get full steering. The sensitivy mode in this new controller is so useful for this, and it's a problem that has been plaguing me using controller with circular holes. My old Logitech cordless rumblepad 2 with square thumbstick holes/movement pattern is getting worn out over time even trying to after cleaning the potentiometers it's becoming jittery over the years.

@campersruincod6134

2 жыл бұрын

Devs were stupid back then. Non-radial or axial-Deadzones? We’re they high? We’re literally controlling a circular stick. Backwards design.

@electricblue8196

2 жыл бұрын

@@campersruincod6134 I think it might be because of digital joysticks with micro switches and possibly the connection between digital and square. Could also be from analog to digital conversion of measuring a potentiometer all the way from 0-255 steps for an 8 bit computer? Or were 8 bit computers even less sensitive, seems though you'd be losing some range and make the sticks twitchy back then.

@campersruincod6134

2 жыл бұрын

@@electricblue8196 nah, only thing I can think of was older hardware couldn’t process more advanced controls. Plus I don’t think they cared or though about it much, so just implemented to most basic level of deadzone that took the least amount of time to process.

nice accuracy test.. subscribed

great review

This is the best review of this controller I've seen on KZread. Well done, man. Could you test this controller on Mega Man Zero 3, jump kicking on a wall to see if the face buttons are fast and precise?

@williamtael8379

2 жыл бұрын

Nevermind, I have the controller now... And it is AWESOME! It does so well even on games like Mega Man Zero 3. It's a must buy.

I love this review

Definitely seems like a great controller, most likely gonna be the next one I get..hopefully the cost is manageable given all its amazing features 😅 I feel like the in-depth review of this controller is worth a sub, even if I *have* already watched pretty much all the rest of your vids SuperVinlin Hope this thing goes well for you :p

@VKsChannel

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching I will keep bringing interesting stuff in the future

thank you for the in depth review! was wondering if i can swap the button layout to xbox and you shattered my dream haha

I was unaware of a new hall effect controller coming out. It always disappointed me how analogue sticks had kinda stagnated with those typical sticks every company uses that develop drift over time but I'll have to look into this controller.

Best review!

Big W

A friend of mine picked up one of my KingKong2 Pro controllers that was inside the case and thought that the case (with the heft of the controller inside) was the controller, like some high tech never seen before.

@TS_Mind_Swept

2 жыл бұрын

That's great MaxLOL

@Crowned_Hearts

2 жыл бұрын

Lmao wtf??

The PS3's sticks are interesting, as they're not directly a hall effect sensor. Ben Heck recently did a teardown and de-potting of one on his Driftbusters video, and it turns out to be a magnet and a PCB with some traces on it. What's going on seems to be the chip driving the system is inducing a current, and thus a magnetic field as well, into the PCB, and this is manipulated by a magnet on the yoke of the stick's gimbal, this manipulated magnetic field is then picked up by the other half of the same PCB and fed into the same chip that drives it, except now the signal is amplified; this signal is either translated by additional IC on the chip that is then fed into the controller's processor, or the amplified signal is fed directly to the controller's processor, I don't think it's actually known either way, I don't think IC schematics exist without deeper research. Up until Heck's video, the sticks weren't even that well understood, from what I can find, even the PS3 Devwiki thought the sticks were a hall effect sensor, when they're in reality not. I'm not sure which design is better, they're both essentially drop-in replacements for potentiometer sticks in terms of the stick cluster itself, but both require a different PCB interface and circuit components to make them work. Sony's approach used less overall parts, as it's a sensor-less PCB, but used a more complex chip to drive and read the system; whereas GuliKit's approach uses more parts but is a lot simpler in practicality. It'll be interesting to see what other companies do, maybe this'll push ALPs into making their own. While the patent for this exists, or is at least pending, I wonder what the validity of that patent is considering this is such a simple design, I'd be curious to see how strong that patent is.

Finally, we have a technological advance in the question: "analog buttons". I hope it will be a revolution similar to what was the switch from metallic ball mouse to optical mouse.

@mspektor8523

2 жыл бұрын

PS2 and PS3 controllers both had pressure sensitive face buttons. For some reason Sony removed them in the PS4 onwards. Generally they didn't see much use, but they could be helpful if you prefer using face buttons to accelerate in racing games.

Nice video bro

boa man, tava procurando exatamente isso!

Subbed because of the teardown

Thanks for the vid. I was going to pickup a replacement pro controller, but I’m gonna give this a try, instead.

underrated video

Thank you i was looking a video to make the ABXY buttons click more linear

The backshell seems easy to switch out so the bad trigger feel isn't a problem with a good custom shell. The turbo is kind of cheaty most of the time can also be done in software so that is fine as well. It's a great controller with little to no consequence besides nindendo's HD rumble which isn't used on PC often. As well as Sony's triggers which is only a pain in the butt by Sony's fault and in only a few games.

Regarding circularity, one should note that in the case of the "square" readout controller, or even the "butterfly" DualSense there is a range outside the box and circle, in the top-bottom and left-right region, where the stick move, but since they already send the 100% value, even the gamepad tester doesn't register the movement. Sooo as you said the game might crop the square diagonals, but so does the plastic when 'perfect' circularity is achieved, so it is all just a consequence of calibration choice of the maker. In some games (Rocket League for example) it is good to have the shape a bit squared, cos you need those 100% values for some movements, and it is gosh dang hard to hit them with perfect circularity, as you must move the stick precisely vertical, any slight mistake in angle will ruin your 100% Y output on that axis. In fps shooters 'perfect circularity' is good maybe. (Have no idea, being a MNK player.) BUT just bought the GameSir T4 Kaleid, which you can set through its software from perfect circle active zone the 'butterfly' shape of a rounded square, and it is SOOO much easier to play that way! Until now I used a standard Xbox Series controller to play RL wich had a more circular readout for its analogues, and it was much harder to play than with the hybrid readout shape. So yeah, high sensitivity is good in Rocket League for example.

I'll get this controller sooner or later when the money is looking good 🤠

Amazing review. I'd love to see a similar review on a chinese controller called "betop zeus t6" because i couldn't find any review on it even though it looks interesting.

Regarding the issue where your middle finger starts bumping into the triggers whenever you press the bumpers, I noticed this controller has the same bumper and trigger design as the XBox One and Series X controllers where the bumpers were designed to be pressed using the recesses where the bumpers and the triggers meet. Microsoft and it looks like Gulikit designed their controllers so that half your index fingers rest on those two bumper recesses and half on the triggers. Try doing that because I find it works really well for me. My index fingers don't even have to move laterally when pressing the bumpers since they're already resting on those recesses and pressing the triggers requires minimal finger movement away from me. I used to dislike the Xbox-style bumpers too because I felt they required a bit too much reaching to press but once I figured out what those recesses were for, I've grown to really love the design.

Getting mine today. My biggest question is centered around that button switch which is using plastic in the housing to replace one of the metal springs. I'm wondering about how those buttons will change over time due to resilience and resistance creep.

thank you ! I enjoyed the detailed review video. I have a question. Are these pads no improvement on the lb&rb bumper buttons? Using the same switch as the others? I want the bumper buttons to be strong.

@VKsChannel

2 жыл бұрын

The LB and RB switches are regular switches like the others but the buttons have rubberized protection pads to make it more resistant

Gonna buy

My thoughts on this controller was like I don't know but seeing this review I'm like nice controller 🎮🎮🎮🎮

when i put this controller in my hand i said wow feels like perfection id even say it's better than the elite 2 controller.

is the battery indicator works like in a powerbank or something? (if there's 4 lights then each light represents 25% capacity) coz I still haven't figure it out how to tell the remaining battery %

This is what I am looking for.

I’ve had one for about a month and I love it. I still use my 8Bitdo Pro 2 more. But that’s just me preferring the PlayStation Layout

>turbo mode >macros Boo, while turbo and macros are useful for the masses in very niche areas, it means you absolutely can't use such a good controller in competitive areas as turbo and macros are often banned controller features due to how it brings an unfair and unskilled advantage to the user. Hopefully they make a "King Kong 2 Competition" variant without turbo and macro.

@meurumtrain4747

2 жыл бұрын

Considering they’re optional, the competitive scene simply could agree not to use such features.

I got a KingKong2 Pro controller from Aliexpress. I have been enjoying it so far, but the B button on my controller makes this nasty scratchy noise when pressed in not straight down at an angle. Only the B does that, the other face buttons are perfectly fine. Thanks to your teardown guide, I feel confident to do a replacement of that B switch myself. I have chatted with the store, they agreed to send me replacement switches, so I will be doing the replacement after a week or two. Hopefully that will straighten out the only kink in what could possibly my best and last controller ever!

@VKsChannel

2 жыл бұрын

It's pretty easy to replace !

Sounds like the ultimate controller, the d-pad is good, the buttons are not mechanical but they feel like... too bad I just bought a pro controller

Nice hair cut VK and love these videos.

@VKsChannel

2 жыл бұрын

that's not me at the beginning LOL

@Clone394

2 жыл бұрын

@@VKsChannel lol, we know that. We're just messing with you.

This controller would be perfect, a no brainer, if it had back buttons/paddles. Although we are still yet to see the actual durability of it as a whole.

@dylanflores7215

2 жыл бұрын

A suggestion. Learn to play claw. It’s the superior grip and will negate the need for paddles.

@ivanaviNiebla

2 жыл бұрын

@@dylanflores7215 I find it too uncomfortable, sometimes it is too tiresome (borderline painful), and at that point I rather just go back to M&K

@chrisl3193

2 жыл бұрын

@@dylanflores7215 nah

@mythicalapple3768

2 жыл бұрын

@@dylanflores7215 yes because 1 finger pressing 4 buttons is faster then 4finger on 4 paddles

@Hyperiss

2 жыл бұрын

Claw only feels bad the first 2 weeks or so. Your hand adapts to it, and it should never feel tense to do it, or else you're doing it wrong. My hand naturally stays in claw position for most games and it feels very relaxed and comfortable.

Great video, you were only one that actually took it completely apart and also showed joystick differences. I have already seen pictures of the paint wearing off the trigger buttons and shoulders and I'm concerned on how lasting the rubber on joysticks will last. I will disagree with these 'mechanical' buttons lasting 50 million clicks; the connection is still being established with conductive pads, which can wear out after many years. These 'mechanical' switch buttons give you the tactile feel, however, they will not last as long as real mechanical switches that use metal as connection points. Yes, they eliminated the rubber for the conductive pads, but I've had pads go bad before the rubber in Guitar Hero guitars, etc. The first thing that will go bad is probably the battery; lithium batteries only have 300-500 charge cycles. If you use it as much as a phone that’s only 2-3 years. I do love the accuracy of the new joysticks and can't wait for other companies to improve upon this or next version.

@VKsChannel

2 жыл бұрын

Paint is paint and you can always re-paint it again the conductive pads will last probably more than your entire life, just look at the NES controllers this console have 40 years of being released and thought the rubber membranes may have ripped open the contact pads are still great, all you might have to do is clean the contacts with some rubber to remove any oxidation and they will be working like brand new again, and the battery is easily removable and replaceable, you can buy new batteries so easily on aliexpress or eletronics stores

Oohhhhhh that AB/XY Layout is killing it for me, this looks like the ultimate Controller! Damn i for sure hope they make an Xbox edition with all the Feedback gathered... To clarify, I know you can change the input method, I am purely refering to the face button prints.

@harrytsang1501

Жыл бұрын

There's a $3 add-on that gives you 4 keycaps for ABXY in Xbox layout. At least that's an option directly buying from China Edit: I don't think it will connect to an Xbox or PS4 directly? maybe in switch mode and 8bitdo you can tho

9:35 - I just did this test with my Dualshock 4 v2 and got better results: L3 (6.5%) and R3 (5.5%). Cool :D

In Canada you can't get it with Canadian sites unless they offer imports which have a lot of fees involved. You will probably spend maybe 80-100 on one controller to import it if there are sellers in America.

I don't know about the "bump issue" because only my index finger is moving when switching between trigger and shoulder button.

@VKsChannel

2 жыл бұрын

it might not happen for everyone since people have different hand sizes, for me it was a little bit annoying

@counterhit148

2 жыл бұрын

After using ps controllers for a long time, when I played a game on xbox controller for the first time (mgs 2, which uses both triggers and bumpers a lot, to be exact) I had the same problems as vk, especially annoying was travel distance my finger had to make to switch from bumpers to triggers and vice versa

I was honestly planning to buy a new controller soon anyway for my pc, will give this a try. I don't really care about the programmable stuff, but better buttons and sticks is nice. Hope ergonomically it just isn't as bad is it seems to be. Sucks they use the switch face button layout too but whatever.

@DKarkarov

2 жыл бұрын

So been using this controller for a few hours now and here is my gripes. It is ergonomically worse than a Xbox series S controller. Mostly this comes from the back panel being so shallow and there not being any weight. The trigger design like you mentioned is definitely better on other controllers, and it does result in your finger spacing being wider than others. I am sure I will get used to it but it is a little uncomfortable right now. That said, it isn't "that much" worse, it is very minor and can certainly be something you adjust to with use. My big complaint especially for PC use, is that the + and - button have been mapped as start and back. These are WAY too high on the controller for that mapping. These buttons desperately need to be switched with the home and square/circle button, or a way of manually remapping these buttons needs to be introduced. It is unintuitive and inconsistent with the placement on pretty much any other controller that exists. Also this is definitely a me thing, but this controller is not that out of the box moddable. Despite being able to disassemble it far easier than most modern controllers the differences in construction of buttons makes it so you can't replace the parts. I would love to buy new buttons to get their faces to match the xbox layout, but it can't be done because no one makes buttons like this. If there is a source for them, I don't know who they are. Also I don't really like the sticks, the rubbery feeling just isn't to my taste. That said you can get replacement sticks it is just a question of finding a set that will fit. It is definitely not compatible with x box style sticks. I am going to try a pair of full metal ps5 sticks and hope for the best. Switch pro sticks are not worth bothering as they will basically be the exact same sticks just in different colors. All that nonsense aside..... this controller was easy to update, connected via the included usb cable instantly with no effort on my part, works great with no stick drift, no dead zone, all buttons are super responsive, the grip is good though I worry this will change as the soft shell inevitably wears out, and it performs as well or better than any other controller I have used. I imagine for first person shooters it will be better than most if not all other controllers, still not as good as mouse and keyboard but sometimes you want to be able to lean back and not be hunched over. It even has unique presets set up for pc so it automatically switched to xbox mode with no stick dead zone without me having to enable these features. All in all, my only major complaint is the + and - button placement and otherwise so far it seems equal to a xbox series S controller or slightly better in most respects while also costing less money.

@honoredshadow1975

2 жыл бұрын

@@DKarkarov thanks for that mini review. Most interesting.

@MsTatakai

2 жыл бұрын

To me the best controller is the sega saturn FAT version and PS2... Sadly i don't have them anymore but arround 2013 i bought xbox 360 to play on PC and its TERRIBLE ... the DPAD is Horrible and i had to mod the controller a lot and still today is still not good ... the buttons seems to have a long travel time but have no drift on my analog so ... nice i guess... thought king kong v2 or whatever the name is could be the upgrade i need but sadly i don't feel it will worth it =/

@Milarecs

Жыл бұрын

Yes! Most reviews are not technical reviews are just unboxing

@tarosceptic

Жыл бұрын

@@DKarkarov can you give us an update on the stick replacements? how did that go?

pretty interesting

Hello VK! I have a question... A lot of people claim that, over time, the A and B (sometimes Y and X) buttons become difficult to press, get consistently stuck inside the controller shell or sometimes the presses wont be registered. Does modding all the switches (pulling the tabs) solve this problem? As shown in 23:25, the switch becomes smooth and easy to press. I'm probably wrong, but from what I saw in the video at 23:33, it seems like you have problems trying to consistently press the switch (tabs not pulled).

@VKsChannel

2 жыл бұрын

I modded the extra button that came with the controller the buttons installed on the controller are unmodded But some people confirmed that pulling the tabs solved the stuck buttons problem for them

@Pictus_Invictus

Жыл бұрын

Some little bit of Krytox GPL 205 G0 grease probably will fix the button too, is what we use to lubricate keyboard switches.

what other durable y precise controllers are in the market right now? something like this but smaller or more ergonomic would be nice to see

Very detailed review. It would've been a bit better if you showed the bumper mechanism to see if it's any different than the horrible prone to double click xbox bumpers.

This controller looks really nice honestly ...

High sensitivity would give you a more d-pad like response. "Instant dash" in many 2d titles.